Ratings, Scheduling, and Watching for Cancellation/Renewal

[catrox14]

 

I found an interview of Tom and Nichole before S3 started, and she never really "smiled" and I don't think she looked at Tom once.  It is the interview where Nicole tells the interviewer that Ichabbie were living together.

 

Tom looks SO awkward sitting next to Katia

[HalcyonDays]

Mison must always be in character when he wears Ichabod's togs. His accent is different in other interviews. 

 

He speaks with a much deeper voice now. Other stuff I've seen him in, his voice is a bit higher. Not sure if it's a product of aging or the character or whatever. If anyone's seen clips of Dead Cat (or anything else he's been in), he looks completely different (but adorable) in that film. Completely different.

__________________________

 

Not sure if anyone posted this:

 

SpoilerTV - Final Adjusted Ratings for Friday, April 8th, 2016.

 

2.96 million viewers and a 0.7/demo

[benteen]

I'm not surprised the ratings were up a little for last week's episode.  A lot of people anticipated that would be the series finale and certainly didn't expect the garbage that we got.  I'm sure Fox will misinterpret that as networks often do.

Edited April 13, 2016 by benteen

[phoenics]

I'm not surprised the ratings were up a little for last week's episode.  A lot of people anticipated that would be the series finale and certainly didn't expect the garbage that we got.  I'm sure Fox will misinterpret that as networks often do.

 

They will probably to their peril, as now people who poked their heads back in to take a peek are gone for good.  And also spreading what happened to Abbie via word of mouth, so other fans who left in droves when she was marginalized will stay away too.

 

The issue is whether any of those 3 million will come back next season... and I don't think they will - if they do, it will be for a minute and then they'll dip and the ratings will bleed out.  I don't see how them switching to a new season (and killing off Abbie) will break the cycle they've had of losing about 35% of their viewers at the start of every season.

 

Even when it had a little promotion before S2, they lost a few million.  Then it just kept going downhill.

[Yolapukka]

 

Tom looks SO awkward sitting next to Katia

 

Katia looks so awkward sitting, breathing and blinking.

 

 

Even when it had a little promotion before S2, they lost a few million.  Then it just kept going downhill.

 

At this point I don't think Fox sees it as anything more than filler.

 

I think Nicole leaving was a smart move, another season of the show's decline would have been blamed on the inability of a black woman,  specifically her, to carry a show, even though the problem was the unwillingness behind the scenes to continue to allow her to carry a show.

Edited April 14, 2016 by yuggapukka

[cynic]

Sleepy Hollow has been slated for the spring schedule on Fridays. It doesn't say how many episodes it will get, but that probably means thirteen, right? I'm not sure if holding it until the spring is a good or bad thing for the show. On the one hand, a long hiatus generally isn't good for the ratings in network tv. On the other hand, maybe it's better to let the controversy and bad feelings die down a bit before premiering the show. Either way, it doesn't look like Fox has a ton of confidence in SH. Then again, the schedule as a whole doesn't look great. Maybe SH will even squeak out another season after this. Hey, Fox has to fill all those AI hours somehow.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/16/fox-schedule

[Watermelon]

That schedule is the embodiment of struggle.  It's pretty clear Fox damn near had to keep Sleepy Hollow on.

[catrox14]

56 minutes ago, cynic said:

Sleepy Hollow has been slated for the spring schedule on Fridays. It doesn't say how many episodes it will get, but that probably means thirteen, right? I'm not sure if holding it until the spring is a good or bad thing for the show. On the one hand, a long hiatus generally isn't good for the ratings in network tv. On the other hand, maybe it's better to let the controversy and bad feelings die down a bit before premiering the show. Either way, it doesn't look like Fox has a ton of confidence in SH. Then again, the schedule as a whole doesn't look great. Maybe SH will even squeak out another season after this. Hey, Fox has to fill all those AI hours somehow.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/16/fox-schedule

You know the only good news is if Fox gets SH to 100 episodes isn't that good for selling into syndication? If they sell it to syndication doesn't that mean Nicole would still get residuals for the 3 seasons she was on the show?

[bobbysgurl]

2 hours ago, cynic said:

Sleepy Hollow has been slated for the spring schedule on Fridays. It doesn't say how many episodes it will get, but that probably means thirteen, right? I'm not sure if holding it until the spring is a good or bad thing for the show. On the one hand, a long hiatus generally isn't good for the ratings in network tv. On the other hand, maybe it's better to let the controversy and bad feelings die down a bit before premiering the show. Either way, it doesn't look like Fox has a ton of confidence in SH. Then again, the schedule as a whole doesn't look great. Maybe SH will even squeak out another season after this. Hey, Fox has to fill all those AI hours somehow.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/16/fox-schedule

 

They are most definitely trying to wait for the controversy to die down.  I will be back in the Spring, but not to watch or praise or promote SH.  I will be one of the voices denouncing it.

Edited May 17, 2016 by bobbysgurl

[cynic]

1 hour ago, catrox14 said:

You know the only good news is if Fox gets SH to 100 episodes isn't that good for selling into syndication? If they sell it to syndication doesn't that mean Nicole would still get residuals for the 3 seasons she was on the show?

100 episodes used to be the magic number for syndication. I think common wisdom has it at 88 now. That is a generality though. 

They're only at 49 episodes now. Assuming season 4 is thirteen, that will put them at 63. Still a long way to go.

[Ailianna]

With ten million cable stations to sell programming to, though, I see shows like Almost Human in syndication--and that show only lasted 13 episodes!  I see a lot of the small cable channels without original programming showing shows that I never thought to see again because they were cancelled with only a few episodes.  And my favorite--Pushing Daisies, keeps popping up, and the two seasons of that show together are only 22 episodes.  I don't think the old rules apply anymore.

[Dobian]

Netflix, Amazon, etc., buys up these shows.  Not sure how much money is involved.  I don't know how they renewed this one, the show is really off the rails now and it definitely lost a lot of viewers after last season's fiasco.  I don't really have an interest in watching it anymore.

[Commando Cody]

A repeat of Sleepy Hollow tried to record tonight. It surprised me because it meant they must not have cancelled this show. So I came around here to see what the deal was. I am very surprised that this show is getting another season. 

[Free]

11 hours ago, Commando Cody said:

A repeat of Sleepy Hollow tried to record tonight. It surprised me because it meant they must not have cancelled this show. So I came around here to see what the deal was. I am very surprised that this show is getting another season. 

It did, but it repeated poorly though.

[Morrigan2575]

http://www.spoilertv.com/2017/01/ratings-news-7th-january-2017.html?utm_source=Trending&utm_medium=Trending&m=1

0.6/2.21 million

[jenrising]

*thud* 

[TaurusRose]

Not watching even to hate on, but I am watching the ratings.  Still down from last year's season premiere (which was down from the year before and the year before that).  I hope this show dies.  Yes, I'm bitter and I'm a bitch about it.

[Free]

1 hour ago, taurusrose said:

Not watching even to hate on, but I am watching the ratings.  Still down from last year's season premiere (which was down from the year before and the year before that).  I hope this show dies.  Yes, I'm bitter and I'm a bitch about it.

Oh it's dying, amount of reboots could salvage it.

[Blackhoney]

Did y’all catch Iscove on Twitter earlier today lying saying the show had over 3 million viewers? He eventually had to retract and looked a fool doing so. Right after that, Albert Kim claimed he heard about DVR outages, but everyone replied their DVRs were fine. It has been such an embarrassing day for them.

I think they really are shocked they ended S3 with almost 3 million viewers and are staring off S4 with just over 2 million. I don’t think they thought that many ppl would jump ship. Clearly they’ve forgotten the mass exodus that occurred when S1 ended with 7 million viewers and S2 started with 5 million.

The real tragedy will be next week’s ratings though. The second episode of Sleepy’s new seasons are always lower than the season opener. I predict 1.8 million viewers next week with a 0.4 demo. The curiosity factor will have worn off, not to mention all those new ppl who will be turned off by terrible changes, generic new cast members and always poorly written scripts.

[Free]

39 minutes ago, Blackhoney said:

Did y’all catch Iscove on Twitter earlier today lying saying the show had over 3 million viewers? He eventually had to retract and looked a fool doing so. Right after that, Albert Kim claimed he heard about DVR outages, but everyone replied their DVRs were fine. It has been such an embarrassing day for them.

I think they really are shocked they ended S3 with almost 3 million viewers and are staring off S4 with just over 2 million. I don’t think they thought that many ppl would jump ship. Clearly they’ve forgotten the mass exodus that occurred when S1 ended with 7 million viewers and S2 started with 5 million.

The real tragedy will be next week’s ratings though. The second episode of Sleepy’s new seasons are always lower than the season opener. I predict 1.8 million viewers next week with a 0.4 demo. The curiosity factor will have worn off, not to mention all those new ppl who will be turned off by terrible changes, generic new cast members and always poorly written scripts.

Embarrassing, they should've kept quiet.

[Blackhoney]

I would say 75% of all tweets in the Sleepy Hollow tag last night were positive. Those who tuned in seem to overwhelmingly enjoy what they saw. I think that made the writer/producers feel quite enamored with themselves. Considering Twitter has been ground zero for major shade from fans, I think the majority positive feedback last night made them assume the ratings would be just as positive. So they got boastful and arrogant, then had to backtrack and make excuses for why the ratings didn’t seem to correlate with Twitter feedback. They also bragged about trending, but either didn’t notice or mention that it was to the tune of less than 5,000 tweets. I think they wanted to send a big F-U to Abbie/Ichabbie fans. I think they wanted to rub their non-existent success in our faces, but then ended up having to eat crow.

[shanndee]

I think you are right Blackhoney. I also think that they haven't considered the simple fact that a lot of us who have (finally!) jumped ship can't be bothered to comment on it anymore. As a result, the only comments they will see are from those who are still watching (or the Sandras who are thrilled that Abbie is gone and really believe that all will be "fine" without her). 

This is the only place that I comment anymore, because I know that a lot of people here are still sad about the loss of something that used to be really special.

[Free]

34 minutes ago, Blackhoney said:

I would say 75% of all tweets in the Sleepy Hollow tag last night were positive. Those who tuned in seem to overwhelmingly enjoy what they saw. I think that made the writer/producers feel quite enamored with themselves. Considering Twitter has been ground zero for major shade from fans, I think the majority positive feedback last night made them assume the ratings would be just as positive. So they got boastful and arrogant, then had to backtrack and make excuses for why the ratings didn’t seem to correlate with Twitter feedback. They also bragged about trending, but either didn’t notice or mention that it was to the tune of less than 5,000 tweets. I think they wanted to send a big F-U to Abbie/Ichabbie fans. I think they wanted to rub their non-existent success in our faces, but then ended up having to eat crow.

It was very foolish to think they would correlate, at least wait for the results.  With the way the show has collapsed over the years, they shouldn't be this arrogant.

[NuncaNunca]

2 hours ago, Blackhoney said:

Did y’all catch Iscove on Twitter earlier today lying saying the show had over 3 million viewers? 

I'm the last person to defend Iscove, but he wasn't lying. He just jumped the gun w/ bad data that was published by a legitimate source. The first numbers published online Saturday morning were on TV Series Finale, and they had SH at 3.05 million viewers. As of 7:15PM PST on 1/7, the incorrect numbers were still posted: http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/friday-tv-ratings-emerald-city-hawaii-five-0-sleepy-hollow-dr-ken-crazy-ex-girlfriend/

It was a error on the part of the website Iscove consulted (I consulted it and made the same error), and since Rosewood really had 3.05 million viewers, my guess is that it was an entry error/copy-paste error that duplicated the entry for SH.

[Panopticon]

11 hours ago, Blackhoney said:

I would say 75% of all tweets in the Sleepy Hollow tag last night were positive. Those who tuned in seem to overwhelmingly enjoy what they saw. I think that made the writer/producers feel quite enamored with themselves. Considering Twitter has been ground zero for major shade from fans, I think the majority positive feedback last night made them assume the ratings would be just as positive.

I think that's it exactly. From the interviews surrounding the season finale last year, the writers/producers simply did not grasp that the issue wasn't merely that Abbie left; it was the way she died, with the explanation that her life was meaningful only as it pertained to Crane. They didn't understand that the reaction wasn't only the sort of emotionally invested outrage that comes with "my favorite character is gone, and I will continue ranting;" it was also "I can't in good conscience condone this attitude and continue to watch this, goodbye."

The current version of Sleepy Hollow, if it were new, seems like a show I would try. I don't mind demon of the week shows, and I overlook bad CGI. I like several members of the cast; obviously I would want to give a show with Tom a look, and I'm so fond of Rachel Melvin from her soap opera days that I might well have tuned in just to see her. But the sexist, racist message behind Abbie's exit is too much for me to overlook.

[cynic]

2 hours ago, Panopticon said:

I think that's it exactly. From the interviews surrounding the season finale last year, the writers/producers simply did not grasp that the issue wasn't merely that Abbie left; it was the way she died, with the explanation that her life was meaningful only as it pertained to Crane. They didn't understand that the reaction wasn't only the sort of emotionally invested outrage that comes with "my favorite character is gone, and I will continue ranting;" it was also "I can't in good conscience condone this attitude and continue to watch this, goodbye."

......

This. Plus that we watched Abbie become increasingly marginalized over seasons when she started out as such a great, strong lead. It wasn't just her leaving the show. It was the culmination of many things. 

[TaurusRose]

All I know is that they opened this season with fewer viewers than they closed with last season, and that gives me a major happy.  I hope the trend continues.  My affection for an individual cast member doesn't outweigh the contempt I feel for everything else about this series.  

[Blackhoney]

18 hours ago, NuncaNunca said:

I'm the last person to defend Iscove, but he wasn't lying. He just jumped the gun w/ bad data that was published by a legitimate source. The first numbers published online Saturday morning were on TV Series Finale, and they had SH at 3.05 million viewers. As of 7:15PM PST on 1/7, the incorrect numbers were still posted: http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/friday-tv-ratings-emerald-city-hawaii-five-0-sleepy-hollow-dr-ken-crazy-ex-girlfriend/

It was a error on the part of the website Iscove consulted (I consulted it and made the same error), and since Rosewood really had 3.05 million viewers, my guess is that it was an entry error/copy-paste error that duplicated the entry for SH.

The part of your comment I bolded is not true. Below is what I was originally going to post in response to Free saying “Why didn’t they just keep quiet.” But I scrapped it thinking it was too wordy. But here it is below. Also, the networks do not have to wait for websites to update to find out the ratings for their shows. What did they do before the internet? Neilsen. They know the ratings for their shows within about 3 hours of the final airing. They knew before they went to bed that night. It’s the same way Hits Daily Double continues to accurately predicts album sales for a week, with only a days worth of data. It's also worth noting that anyone with common sense could clearly pick out the error in TV Series Finale's chart. It was an obvious mix-up with Rosewood. Iscove lied on purpose, just like Kim attempted to blame non-existent DVR outages for the ratings.

__________________________________________________

My Original Comment....

I’m convinced they tried to get sassy because of me. I was a straight heathen on Twitter earlier today. I woke up early just to be petty and immediately started posting scathing reviews and comments from online. I was also the first to post their ratings… all up in their tag. I flooded them early in the morning.

Most ppl wait for TV by the Numbers to update their site with overnight ratings at noon, but Showbuzz Daily updates a good 2-3 hours in advance. That’s where I get my ratings from, so I beat Sleepy at posting their own ratings.

Shortly after me the Grim Reaper posted the overnights and it was on after that. The Reaper is shady and everyone follows him, so within minutes every major site was tweeting out Sleepy’s terrible ratings.

They were pretty confident last night. Celebrating and patting each other on the back. I would say 70% of all tweets were positive. I can understand their arrogance. I know it was shocking to see they lost almost a million viewers. I truly don’t think they were prepared to not be a hit with their new all Crane focused show.

Edited January 8, 2017 by Blackhoney

[TaurusRose]

2 hours ago, Blackhoney said:

I’m convinced they tried to get sassy because of me. I was a straight heathen on Twitter earlier today. I woke up early just to be petty and immediately started posting scathing reviews and comments from online. I was also the first to post their ratings… all up in their tag. I flooded them early in the morning.

I like you.  Let the networks be put on notice.  Don't underestimate the wrath of petty, bitchy, vengeful ex-viewers.

Edited January 8, 2017 by taurusrose

[jenrising]

2 hours ago, Blackhoney said:

I’m convinced they tried to get sassy because of me. I was a straight heathen on Twitter earlier today.

Um, if you wanted to share or PM your twitter, that would be an excellent public service. 

[NuncaNunca]

4 hours ago, Blackhoney said:

The part of your comment I bolded is not true.

Eh, I stand corrected. I don't follow ratings obsessively, or what posts what where first. I'm casual like that. Iscove said he got his numbers from TV Series Finale, which is where I spotted the 3 million after 8AM that morning. I have no problem believing him that he used the source he said he did and, in any case, I forgive errors of information that are easily corrected. Attitude is a different story, and the folks involved with SH are wide open on that front.

[Blackhoney]

2 hours ago, NuncaNunca said:

Eh, I stand corrected. I don't follow ratings obsessively, or what posts what where first. I'm casual like that. Iscove said he got his numbers from TV Series Finale, which is where I spotted the 3 million after 8AM that morning. I have no problem believing him that he used the source he said he did and, in any case, I forgive errors of information that are easily corrected. Attitude is a different story, and the folks involved with SH are wide open on that front.

It’s interesting you said you saw the post at 8AM, because Google sitemap didn’t index the post until 11:32AM, which makes sense because TV Series Finale’s Twitter page automatically posted it at 11:16AM, 11 minutes after I posted my ratings, by the way. So either you’re mistaken or Google’s index bots are. And as someone who actually visited TVSF that morning and knows the post was not there at 8 AM, I respectfully think it may be you.

I posted my ratings tweet at 11:05am, Grimm Reaper at 11:08AM, TV Series Finale at 11:16 and at 11:56 Phil made his tweet. 

When you're as petty as I am, you must also be thorough. LOL

 

 

Edited January 9, 2017 by Blackhoney

[Morrigan2575]

3 minutes ago, Blackhoney said:

It’s interesting you said you saw the post at 8AM, because Google sitemap didn’t index the post until 11:32AM, which makes sense because TV Series Finale’s Twitter page automatically posted it at 11:16AM, 11 minutes after I posted my ratings, by the way. 

Could be a timezone thing? 11:15-11:30 AM ET is 8:15-8-30 AM PT.

[possibilities]

4 hours ago, taurusrose said:

Don't underestimate the wrath of petty, bitchy, vengeful ex-viewers.

The criticisms of what this show did to itself and its viewers are not petty, though.

[NuncaNunca]

37 minutes ago, Blackhoney said:

It’s interesting you said you saw the post at 8AM, because Google sitemap didn’t index the post until 11:32AM, which makes sense because TV Series Finale’s Twitter page automatically posted it at 11:16AM, 11 minutes after I posted my ratings, by the way. So either you’re mistaken or Google’s index bots are. And as someone who actually visited TVSF that morning and knows the post was not there at 8 AM, I respectfully think it may be you.

I'm on the West Coast; I referenced PST in the previous post. I pegged 8AM because that's when I read my emails on weekend mornings. I don't remember the exact time and honestly don't care.

[Blackhoney]

29 minutes ago, possibilities said:

The criticisms of what this show did to itself and its viewers are not petty, though.

I’m okay with all those titles. I woke up yesterday at 7:28 in the morning knowing I was gonna be a bitch all damn day long. I’m one of those same petty, vengeful bitches they reached out to in season two to help save their show, and now I’m that same petty, vengeful bitch that’s doing just the opposite. What I am not though, is capable of singlehandedly killing the show’s ratings. Only the writers can do that, and they’ve been doing a pretty good job of it since season one- yes, I said season one.

I find those who still like the show are looking for someone to blame for its failing, and former fans are being cited, as if our few words are reaching the minds of folks across the country with little black boxes and causing them to turn the channel.

Less than 3,000 ppl saw my tweets. That’s why when the Grimm Reaper and bigger sites posted the ratings, Philip came outta hiding to dispute them.

#Petty&Proud

[TaurusRose]

2 hours ago, possibilities said:

The criticisms of what this show did to itself and its viewers are not petty, though.

I include myself in the petty, bitchy and vengeful crowd.  I'm way beyond criticizing or even watching SH.  But I am actively watching the ratings and waiting for SH to crash and burn.

Edited January 9, 2017 by taurusrose

[Free]

9 hours ago, taurusrose said:

I like you.  Let the networks be put on notice.  Don't underestimate the wrath of petty, bitchy, vengeful ex-viewers.

I mean, what else did they think would happen when the show was already declining, lost 1/2 of its main lead, and then tried to reboot it in DC?  It has/had every reason to lose even more viewers than the opposite.

[blugirlami21]

You can add me to the list of super petty, vengeful former viewers who can't wait to see this incarnation of a show that I used to love crash and burn. I. Cannot. Wait. I looked at the ratings first thing Saturday morning, I couldn't describe to you how happy it made me seeing those super low ratings. You reap what you sow. You always do.

Like other posters have said, it's not just that you killed of the co-lead character of the show, it's how it was done. I don't think I've ever been so angry at a shows writers or a network before or since in my life. I've never felt so disrespected as a viewer of a TV show before. 

I think it was the ship baiting that bothered me the most. It was unnecessary since they knew it was never going to happen. And it was mean. Just plain ole' mean.

But I take comfort in the fact that the people who said they wouldnt be back stood by their words and that the Sleepy Hollow that's on right now, that people are claiming to like so much isn't anything special. It doesn't even take place in Sleepy Hollow anymore. It's just a generic supernatural, big city cop show that will more than likely be cancelled in a couple of months. As it should be.

[TaurusRose]

38 minutes ago, blugirlami21 said:

...it's not just that you killed of the co-lead character of the show, it's how it was done. I don't think I've ever been so angry at a shows writers or a network before or since in my life. I've never felt so disrespected as a viewer of a TV show before. 

I think it was the ship baiting that bothered me the most. It was unnecessary since they knew it was never going to happen. And it was mean. Just plain ole' mean.

This.  They may as well had tweeted "fuck you."

[topanga]

6 hours ago, taurusrose said:

This.  They may as well had tweeted "fuck you."

I know I'm reviving a dead horse, but that's exactly how I felt. I felt like the showrunners were saying that to my face and laughing. Still gets me upset. 

Anyway, I sincerely hope the show tanks. But I also hope Tom Mison and Lyndie Greenwood have other projects lined up for after the SH run is over. 

[festivus]

15 hours ago, blugirlami21 said:

But I take comfort in the fact that the people who said they wouldnt be back stood by their words and that the Sleepy Hollow that's on right now, that people are claiming to like so much isn't anything special.

I'm one of those people. They took a show with an interesting premise and charismatic leads with the kind of chemistry I haven't seen since Mulder and Scully and ruined that shit on a Smallville level. I came to this thread to check out the ratings and I'm glad to see how much they suck. I'm proud to be in the petty, vengeful crowd. 

8 hours ago, topanga said:

Anyway, I sincerely hope the show tanks. But I also hope Tom Mison and Lyndie Greenwood have other projects lined up for after the SH run is over. 

Yeah me too, I like both of them even though I don't think Lyndie is the best actor ever. Trollando will be on American Gods and I'm really looking forward to that.

[cynic]

I really like Tom Mison. He's talented, has charisma,  and he's blazing hot. I hope to see him in other projects. As Crane though, I feel like his performance has mostly devolved into tics (especially the hand stuff) and schtick. I don't blame him. I think the show leans too heavily on Crane as a caricature instead of a character. That's a danger of putting too much emphasis on the flashy characters. The straight men are often just as if not more important because of the need to ground them.

As for Lyndie, she's fine for the most part, but her weaknesses show when she's given too much focus or when the scenes require a lot of emotion. I still cringe when I think of Sonya (who I loved) telling Birkhoff that she was in danger on Nikita. Yikes.

I'm so happy to see the amount of people here and on other sites admit to being petty. It makes me feel better that I'm not the only one. I used to look forward to SH so much, because I loved it. Now, I'm looking forward to it just to see if the ratings tank. 

[jenrising]

4 hours ago, cynic said:

I really like Tom Mison. He's talented, has charisma,  and he's blazing hot. I hope to see him in other projects. As Crane though, I feel like his performance has mostly devolved into tics (especially the hand stuff) and schtick. I don't blame him. I think the show leans too heavily on Crane as a caricature instead of a character. That's a danger of putting too much emphasis on the flashy characters. The straight men are often just as if not more important because of the need to ground them.

This is part of why Tom and Nicole were such a great pair. She's very still, he tends toward frenetic. That balance is needed or it's all jazz hands.

[kieyra]

I'm just here to watch the dumpster fire burn. 

[TaurusRose]

How can I express my glee?  It seems the final adjusted ratings for last week are even lower than we thought: 2.1 million viewers, which means a million walked between 4/8/16 and 1/6/17.  Ruh-oh.  I'm thinking those who are hanging on are looking at their final season.  Early ratings for last night's episode are lower still, but not enough to make a dent in the demo change.  Still, these are early numbers, so they could still drop more.  

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/fox-tv-show-2016-2017-season-ratings/

[Enigma X]

6 minutes ago, taurusrose said:

How can I express my glee?  It seems the final adjusted ratings for last week are even lower than we thought: 2.1 million viewers, which means a million walked between 4/8/16 and 1/6/17.  Ruh-oh.  I'm thinking those who are hanging on are looking at their final season.  Early ratings for last night's episode are lower still, but not enough to make a dent in the demo change.  Still, these are early numbers, so they could still drop more.  

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/fox-tv-show-2016-2017-season-ratings/

This episode was too WB for me. I absolutely adore Tom Mison and am already hoping that he finds some unconventional hit show on one of the alternative networks (Netflix, Hulu, Amazon) once this show tanks.

[TaurusRose]

On 1/14/2017 at 3:09 PM, taurusrose said:

How can I express my glee?  It seems the final adjusted ratings for last week are even lower than we thought: 2.1 million viewers, which means a million walked between 4/8/16 and 1/6/17.  Ruh-oh.  I'm thinking those who are hanging on are looking at their final season.  Early ratings for last night's episode are lower still, but not enough to make a dent in the demo change.  Still, these are early numbers, so they could still drop more.  

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/fox-tv-show-2016-2017-season-ratings/

I'm self-correcting.  I wrongly compared last week's ratings to last year's season average.  They've almost lost a million viewers; 776,000 to be exact.

ETA: Lost 47,000 eyeballs since last week.  I am doing my best evil laugh ever.

Edited January 18, 2017 by taurusrose
To continue being bitchy and vengeful.

[Dobian]

On ‎1‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 8:55 AM, cynic said:

This. Plus that we watched Abbie become increasingly marginalized over seasons when she started out as such a great, strong lead. It wasn't just her leaving the show. It was the culmination of many things. 

There was some issue going on between Beharie and the writers/producers that we will probably never know about since she doesn't say anything about it.  My guess is it goes back to them starting this out as a buddy cop show but making the unfortunate mistake of casting a love interest for Ichabod in Katrina.  That role should never have been cast because it created a third wheel that distracted away from Ichabod and Abbie.  I'm betting that Beharie voiced her opinions about this and it led to dissension and ultimately "writers revenge".  What the writers did in season 3 was standard for what they do with "troubled" actors in tv shows.  It's the Suzanne Somers treatment, where Chrissy does all her scenes talking to the others by telephone.  With Abbie they stuck her in another dimension after they had already stuck her in purgatory the previous season.  It was so obvious that they were deliberately sidelining Abbie it was ridiculous.

Edited January 19, 2017 by Dobian

[Morrigan2575]

I figured it would drop below 2 million before the end of the season, didn't expect it to happen so quickly.