Bethenny Frankel: Skinny Girl

[biakbiak]

17 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Didn't Bethenny or Bravo say that she took her other apartment off the market because she was waiting for approval to make the changes to her new apartment?

Yeah that was part of her blurb at the end. 

[BBHN]

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Is her new apartment on Greene Street?  Looks like she's staying in the same neighborhood. 

I think someone posted in on of the other threads that it is in the same neighborhood/area.

[QuinnM]

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Nope, it's definitely the same as in the listing photos, the "studios" (aka bedrooms, but can't be sold as such since they don't fulfill the legal requirement of having windows) already have a wall of closets. If you google the adress and unit number at the top of the floor plan I linked to you'll see that it's unchanged since the sale/floor plan. 

This was on instagram.  Not sure how you look at old stories there.  But all of those interior walls are gone.  She did a walk around of the area where the master/bath/closet will be.  There walks a discussion on the soffits in the bath, which look weird.  The floors are all covered with chipboard and a lot of the wiring has been pulled through the ceiling.  I assumed if all the walls were gone in the corner and the elevator was flush against a long wall that the studio spaces had no walls. The wall next to the elevator that would be your left was the only one I saw..  It will be interesting to see the change.  But I agree it's an odd layout currently.  And if I was living there I would want more of the windows in the living space but I wouldn't want no light in the bedrooms.  

I like real estate porn so I'm hoping forfmore insta stories or snaps on it.  When do they start filming the next season?  Isn't it usually right after Thanksgiving so we can see Dorinda's Christmas extravaganza.  She says five months so this might be the story line.  The big move or maybe delays in construction.

[biakbiak]

2 hours ago, QuinnM said:

 Isn't it usually right after Thanksgiving so we can see Dorinda's Christmas extravaganza.  She says five months so this might be the story line.  The big move or maybe delays in construction.

Usually in October. They have shown Halloween and Bethenny's birthday which is early November.

[ryebread]

20 hours ago, Atwood said:

It's about a block from her old apartment, on the other side of Broadway. I looked it up the moment the clip of the new apartment appeared on Bravo.

I hate the floor plan almost as much as I disliked the floor plan for Tom's penthouse. 

It's awful.  I love the size but she only has 1 master bedroom.  Brynn's bedroom does NOT have an attached bath or a closet.  Unless Beth sticks her in one of the 'studios' without any windows. 

So, Bryn's choice (like she has one) is a room with big windows but no closet or bath, OR a room with closets, a jack 'n' jill bath and no windows.  I don't see any way to re-configure so that Brynn gets a closet, a window and a bath.  The only way to get natural light into the studio is to add clerestory windows in the kitchen wall. 

And no outdoor space.

For that kind of cash, I guess you can't have it all?

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[QuinnM]

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It's awful.  I love the size but she only has 1 master bedroom.  Brynn's bedroom does NOT have an attached bath or a closet.  Unless Beth sticks her in one of the 'studios' without any windows. 

It's been gutted.  So that is not the finished layout.  There is an architect on the project and as of Monday the walls are down.

[ryebread]

40 minutes ago, QuinnM said:

It's been gutted.  So that is not the finished layout.  There is an architect on the project and as of Monday the walls are down.

But unless she's able to move the kitchen and/or plumb to move bathrooms around, I don't see a whole lot of wiggle room for better bedroom configuration.  In lofts and apartments, is it possible to move kitchens and baths?  Maybe these are some of the problems Beth's architect is up against that she mentioned.

I'm anxious to see what she does. A good architect and builder can make miracles happen.  Up until building codes say no.

[ryebread]

Here's a pic of the front of her building.  If she's on one of the top 4 floors, maybe there are windows on the other side of the building and the floor plan above is from a lower/less windowed unit.  If that's the case, she's got a lot of different options for configuring.

[QuinnM]

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Here's a pic of the front of her building.  If she's on one of the top 4 floors, maybe there are windows on the other side of the building and the floor plan above is from a lower/less windowed unit.  If that's the case, she's got a lot of different options for configuring.

In the very beginning of this weeks episode they show a long narro room that has windows on both walls meeting in the corner. My thought when I saw it was, why are you blocking all that light in one room. One room has those long windows 8 feet up that they use when it's a ugly view but you want light. None those windows look anything like the ones in this building. Maybe hers is a back  unit?

[ryebread]

This is definitely her apartment.  She's got the whole floor.  The floorplan, posted above (and below), is hers.  The windows match up exactly with the exterior shot of the building.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/476-Broadway-STE-4F-New-York-NY-10013/118327994_zpid/

On the episode, those 3 long high windows are in (what was) the library.

Here's the picture of the library in the Zillow listing.  That transparent wall is what separates the library from the master bedroom.

I really love how much space she has.  (Although it would be too much for me.)  It's just hard to believe that something better couldn't be had for $4.2 mill.   We'll just have to see what she does with it.

[jaync]

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So my dog recently decided he hates Bethenny. 

Hee, your fur buddy is smart with good taste. I love how he first got riled up when Beth asked what married man she has been with, and I translated his bark-talk to be "Dennis, you hypocrite!"

[jnymph]

19 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Yes, he hates slut shaming and her getting up aggressively!

 

17 hours ago, BBHN said:

That or he was cheering her on...

Heh.  Yeah I'm not sure;  all I know is he's only barked at animals on TV before; NOT people.  

It definitely was that particular scene.   Once he started barking (and howling a bit too! )  I paused the scene and rewound to get it recorded.   Also, I noticed he didn't bark once Lu was onscreen, only Bethenny,   Once the episode progressed on to other scenes; he was fine. 
He does tend to be very opinionated. LOL 

[ryebread]

Just found this. Apparently some of the floors are split into 2 units.  Here's a floor plan of 6F.  So it looks like bathrooms and kitchens are allowed to be moved around/plumbed in this building. 

In addition, this 1/2 floor has an offer pending.  It was listed at $3.495 mill.  If Beth got her WHOLE floor for 4.2 (albeit a lower floor), she did get a deal.

Also notice that in the 1/2 floor plan there are NO WINDOWS at all in the back of the apartment.  And still no closet in Bedroom 1.  Ugh.

http://streeteasy.com/property/1114754-476-broadway-6f

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[breezy424]

11 minutes ago, ryebread said:

This is definitely her apartment.  She's got the whole floor.  The floorplan, posted above (and below), is hers.  The windows match up exactly with the exterior shot of the building.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/476-Broadway-STE-4F-New-York-NY-10013/118327994_zpid/

On the episode, those 3 long high windows are in (what was) the library.

Here's the picture of the library in the Zillow listing.  That transparent wall is what separates the library from the master bedroom.

I really love how much space she has.  (Although it would be too much for me.)  It's just hard to believe that something better couldn't be had for $4.2 mill.   We'll just have to see what she does with it.

Ugh.  Lots of space for sure but I couldn't live in a place that has so few windows.  I wonder what the windows are like in the master.

I think the only way to make Bryn a decent bedroom is to take space from the library and turn the laundry into a bathroom and put the laundry on the other side where the other studio is. 

[jaync]

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Here's the picture of the library in the Zillow listing.

Nice shelving. Too bad it will probably be used to showcase her SG crap.

[ryebread]

21 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

I think the only way to make Bryn a decent bedroom is to take space from the library and turn the laundry into a bathroom and put the laundry on the other side where the other studio is. 

I agree.  And now that we know she can re-plumb, that idea makes a lot of sense.

Those long high windows in her library are partially covered over by drywall.  If you look at the exterior of the building, they appear to be full size windows.   And see the wall that her range is on?  In other apartments, that wall is exposed brick.  The previous owners liked dry wall.  I hope she uncovers the windows and exposes the brick again.

 

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[BBHN]

But this isn't that unusual for NYC/Manhatten. Not every room will have a window. Not every bedroom will have an en suite bathroom. Not all the bedrooms will be grouped together. I've seen listings on websites for homes even pricier than this one, and they too have some sketchy layout plans as well, like other bedrooms that share the master bathroom, bedrooms that can only be accessed via the kitchen (maybe former servants quarters that are now listed as bedrooms?), not all the bedrooms grouped together, etc.

NYC may have some nice homes, but some of them have layouts that are head scratching for sure.

[QuinnM]

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Nice shelving. Too bad it will probably be used to showcase her SG crap.

They're gone.

[film noire]

37 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Ugh.  Lots of space for sure but I couldn't live in a place that has so few windows.  

Yeah, me neither - windows humanize monsters spaces like this & without them,  it's going to feel like a Scientology center or a convention space.

[ryebread]

1 hour ago, breezy424 said:

Ugh.  Lots of space for sure but I couldn't live in a place that has so few windows.  I wonder what the windows are like in the master.

If you watch the scene in Carole's cat sauna when Beth is talking about her new place, they show a purple room with windows along the back and one on the side.  That's the master bedroom.

 

48 minutes ago, BBHN said:

But this isn't that unusual for NYC/Manhatten. Not every room will have a window. Not every bedroom will have an en suite bathroom. Not all the bedrooms will be grouped together. I've seen listings on websites for homes even pricier than this one, and they too have some sketchy layout plans as well, like other bedrooms that share the master bathroom, bedrooms that can only be accessed via the kitchen (maybe former servants quarters that are now listed as bedrooms?), not all the bedrooms grouped together, etc.

NYC may have some nice homes, but some of them have layouts that are head scratching for sure.

I lived in a pre-war railroad apartment in NYC for a very short time.  The layout made it impossible with a roommate that had a different schedule than me.  She had to walk through my bedroom to get to hers.  And the bathroom door was right next to the stove.  But we were college students and we took what we could get.   I've been away from NYC for a long time but I'm still shocked that $4.2m still requires so much work. She's getting a ton of square footage and maybe that's what's going to make her the most profit in the end. 

[breezy424]

1 hour ago, ryebread said:

I agree.  And now that we know she can re-plumb, that idea makes a lot of sense.

Those long high windows in her library are partially covered over by drywall.  If you look at the exterior of the building, they appear to be full size windows.   And see the wall that her range is on?  In other apartments, that wall is exposed brick.  The previous owners liked dry wall.  I hope she uncovers the windows and exposes the brick again.

 

Those windows are weird.  There was another photo on your link that appeared to have a window like that as well.  I couldn't find any interior shots of those windows that look they way they do from the outside.  Weird.  I love the exposed brick.

[ryebread]

8 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Those windows are weird.  There was another photo on your link that appeared to have a window like that as well.  I couldn't find any interior shots of those windows that look they way they do from the outside. 

More windows were added when the building was renovated.  Here's the side of the old exterior. Compared to the new. (This is the best I could find.)  See how the small windows are added on the side near the front?  And now there are 3 windows instead of 2 on the side near the rear?  I think even the second pic below is older because I can't find one with 4 windows near the back as shown in her floor plan and in the library pic. 

[QuinnM]

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More windows were added when the building was renovated.  Here's the side of the old exterior. Compared to the new. (This is the best I could find.)  See how the small windows are added on the side near the front?  And now there are 3 windows instead of 2 on the side near the rear?  I think even the second pic below is older because I can't find one with 4 windows near the back as shown in her floor plan and in the library pic. 

Good detective work.  You can see in the brick on the left where windows were made smaller and some bricked up.  But I'm saying there is no outside space, not even a little juliet.  I hope we get updates.  

[ryebread]

2 minutes ago, QuinnM said:

Good detective work.  You can see in the brick on the left where windows were made smaller and some bricked up.  But I'm saying there is no outside space, not even a little juliet.  I hope we get updates.  

I know.  I don't think any of her other places had much, if any outside space.  One more way she and I completely different. LOL

With all her bucks, if she was interested, maybe she could rent or purchase the rights to the roof of the building next door because it looks like her 4th floor apartment is exactly at the right level to step off onto that roof.  That would be awesome.  A big sliding door, some flowers, trees and furniture...HOT TUB!

Perhaps that's why the previous owners dry walled those library windows partially up because that rooftop is unsightly?

[QuinnM]

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Just found this. Apparently some of the floors are split into 2 units.  Here's a floor plan of 6F.  So it looks like bathrooms and kitchens are allowed to be moved around/plumbed in this building. 

In addition, this 1/2 floor has an offer pending.  It was listed at $3.495 mill.  If Beth got her WHOLE floor for 4.2 (albeit a lower floor), she did get a deal.

Also notice that in the 1/2 floor plan there are NO WINDOWS at all in the back of the apartment.  And still no closet in Bedroom 1.  Ugh.

I can't imagine what the back half of that apartment feels like.  Mold?  Mildew? Spiders?

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With all her bucks, if she was interested, maybe she could rent or purchase the rights to the roof of the building next door because it looks like her 4th floor apartment is exactly at the right level to step off onto that roof.  That would be awesome.  A big sliding door, some flowers, trees and furniture...HOT TUB!

Isn't that what Jules place had?  That apparently is very dangerous.

[ryebread]

9 minutes ago, QuinnM said:

Isn't that what Jules place had?  That apparently is very dangerous.

Oh my, yes.  Scratch the roof deck.  Beth likes to talk about the vagina, a lot.  Imagine if she broke hers, too?

[jnymph]

10 hours ago, jaync said:

Hee, your fur buddy is smart with good taste. I love how he first got riled up when Beth asked what married man she has been with, and I translated his bark-talk to be "Dennis, you hypocrite!"

LMAO, I love that translation 

[breezy424]

9 hours ago, ryebread said:

If you watch the scene in Carole's cat sauna when Beth is talking about her new place, they show a purple room with windows along the back and one on the side.  That's the master bedroom.

 

I lived in a pre-war railroad apartment in NYC for a very short time.  The layout made it impossible with a roommate that had a different schedule than me.  She had to walk through my bedroom to get to hers.  And the bathroom door was right next to the stove.  But we were college students and we took what we could get.   I've been away from NYC for a long time but I'm still shocked that $4.2m still requires so much work. She's getting a ton of square footage and maybe that's what's going to make her the most profit in the end. 

Yeah, I went back and looked at it.  At least her bedroom has some decent windows. 

Overall, I just find the place really dark.  Just like her present apartment.  I just couldn't live in a loft like this.  The walls don't go to the ceiling and and I could never sleep comfortably in a room without a window or one that has a window so far up that you can't even see out of it.  It's like living in a basement.  I'm actually surprised that the one half floor apartment was able to call any of those bedrooms a bedroom because none of them had windows.  I guess NYC laws are different.  I know with the houses that I've owned you can't call a bedroom a bedroom if there is no egress (or a closet which doesn't apply in these cases).

Of the three lofts she's owned, I liked the Tribeca place the best.

BTW, thanks for posting the pix of the building.  I find the history of buildings and architecture extremely interesting.  You should see me when we go to Newport, RI and do the mansion tours.  I just soak everything up.  Even in the house we live in now, I got so excited when I found the blue prints of the renovation and additions that were done.  So, ok, that's what was done.  So, originally.... And everyone just looks at me.  Ok Breezy. 

[biakbiak]

12 hours ago, QuinnM said:

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With all her bucks, if she was interested, maybe she could rent or purchase the rights to the roof of the building next door because it looks like her 4th floor apartment is exactly at the right level to step off onto that roof.  That would be awesome.  A big sliding door, some flowers, trees and furniture...HOT TUB!

Isn't that what Jules place had?  That apparently is very dangerous.

Jules genital injury happened at a friend's apartment during a party, her large terrace had a full door to access it no climbing through windows needed.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

The Corcoran listing I believe, showed a modern common roof space on top of the building. Not enough windows! I'd feel so claustrophobic. 

[ryebread]

10 hours ago, breezy424 said:

 I know with the houses that I've owned you can't call a bedroom a bedroom if there is no egress (or a closet which doesn't apply in these cases).

The design of our house has a 2 story great room.  I couldn't get over this one really big tall blank wall on one end of it so we put 2 Juliette balconies in the 2nd story bedroom which now over looks the great room. Broke that wall up beautifully and are a great feature.  Now, however, we are told, (as we're thinking about listingl) that that room can not be considered a bedroom because of the open balconies .  WTH?  The remedy is to put doors on them and that solves the problem.  Which is all well and good but the openings are not standard size and the doors will need to be custom made.  Not to mention the framing, staining, hanging, etc.  We'll probably do it but you never know where building code is gonna put a snag in your plans.

10 hours ago, breezy424 said:

BTW, thanks for posting the pix of the building.  I find the history of buildings and architecture extremely interesting.  You should see me when we go to Newport, RI and do the mansion tours.  I just soak everything up.  Even in the house we live in now, I got so excited when I found the blue prints of the renovation and additions that were done.  So, ok, that's what was done.  So, originally.... And everyone just looks at me.  Ok Breezy. 

I love when historical sites post photos of streets and buildings from back in the day, whether it's houses or businesses and put a current picture of the same street next to it.  Finding the details that remain is fascinating to me.   And blueprints?  Oh yeah.  My jam, too.  I could look at them all day. 

6 hours ago, biakbiak said:

Jules genital injury happened at a friend's apartment during a party, her large terrace had a full door to access it no climbing through windows needed.

That was so sketchy, wasn't it?  I don't think we ever got a plausible explanation.  Although I'm not sure I want to know anyway.

2 hours ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

The Corcoran listing I believe, showed a modern common roof space on top of the building. Not enough windows! I'd feel so claustrophobic. 

It does.  Not the same as your own, though.  It's like swimming in the neighbor's pool.  It's nice but not the same. 

[KungFuBunny]

On 8/11/2017 at 11:45 AM, ryebread said:

Here's a pic of the front of her building.  If she's on one of the top 4 floors, maybe there are windows on the other side of the building and the floor plan above is from a lower/less windowed unit.  If that's the case, she's got a lot of different options for configuring.

Hey thanks!

I recognize the building. If you are outside looking directly at the building to the left is a Citibank and then TopShop. Going in that direction is Broome Street.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

On 8/9/2017 at 5:40 PM, Cherrio said:

Hopefully now we won't have to hear her say Tum or Pum Beach anymore.

Yes! I hope I never hear her say I got "murried" again ! That one drove me nuts... I'm getting murried, I got murried, I'm murried! 

[breezy424]

All I know is that Jules injured her vagina when climbing through a window.  I thought she was going outside to have a smoke.  Don't know.  Don't really care all that much.

[Otherkate]

That's a lot of space in an amazing neighborhood. I'm sure she wanted a place she could gut and do over. I think she got a deal. 

[motorcitymom65]

Looks like Dennis is back in Bethenny's life.  Doesn't sound like he dumped her. 

http://www.eonline.com/ca/news/874956/bethenny-frankel-and-dennis-shields-are-back-together-and-having-fun

[hoodooznoodooz]

It sounds as if she wants everyone to know that she thinks that Jason is not the smartest guy and that she wants her partner to be earning as much as she is. Which totally makes sense to me. But it's not that easy to find an ambitious partner who is also sensitive, kind, patient and a good listener, etc.

[bagger]

Gotta love that she's putting her celebrity to good use.

[film noire]

2 hours ago, bagger said:

 

Gotta love that she's putting her celebrity to good use.

I'm going to get roasted for this, but I think what she did is self serving and off putting - listing someone like Michelle Obama looks like a bid to upgrade the visibility and standing of your own charity during a time of crisis - just donate 30K yourself and use your celebrity to give people a list of charities on the front line of the crisis right now, and don't divert resources from the most needed charities right now (those providing shelter, medication, and food). DFS is a great charity, but they don't have the infrastructure to do what the Red Cross (despite the controversy in the past) or similar humanitarian orgs are doing right now. And I'm pretty sure neither does B Strong. 

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[BBHN]

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listing someone like Michelle Obama looks like a bid to upgrade the visibility and standing of your own charity

Isn't that how smaller charities are supposed to grow and expand so they can help more people in the long run? Telling smaller charities to "know your place" seems rather counterproductive.

Any charity to help people shouldn't be dismissed, and I doubt this is going to divert millions of dollars away from other charities.

[film noire]

11 minutes ago, BBHN said:

Telling smaller charities to "know your place" seems rather counterproductive.

Where did I say that? 

[BBHN]

Not in so many words, but that was the impression I was getting.

[film noire]

6 minutes ago, BBHN said:

Not in so many words, but that was the impression I was getting.

It's the wrong impression. 

[BBHN]

I guess people see things differently. Oh well.

[ZoloftBlob]

Really, Bethenny is wrong to ask for charitable donations for hurricane victims? I mean, I do attach a cynical eye to any celeb that jumps on the bandwagon after a disaster, but if it helps some poor Houstonian out to have Beth jump on the bandwagon, is it really a bad thing? 

[film noire]

40 minutes ago, ZoloftBlob said:

Really, Bethenny is wrong to ask for charitable donations for hurricane victims?

Again, where did I say that?

Quoting myself:

"...use your celebrity to give people a list of charities on the front line of the crisis right now, and don't divert resources from the most needed charities right now (those providing shelter, medication, and food). DFS is a great charity, but they don't have the infrastructure to do what the Red Cross (despite the controversy in the past) or similar humanitarian orgs are doing right now. And I'm pretty sure neither does B Strong. "

I criticized *where* she was asking donations to go, and  *how* she used that ask to upgrade visibility around her own charity -- a charity not set up to handle what is needed right now -- not that she was asking for donations, period. 

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[bagger]

2 hours ago, film noire said:

I'm going to get roasted for this, but I think what she did is self serving and off putting - listing someone like Michelle Obama looks like a bid to upgrade the visibility and standing of your own charity during a time of crisis - just donate 30K yourself and use your celebrity to give people a list of charities on the front line of the crisis right now, and don't divert resources from the most needed charities right now (those providing shelter, medication, and food). DFS is a great charity, but they don't have the infrastructure to do what the Red Cross (despite the controversy in the past) or similar humanitarian orgs are doing right now. And I'm pretty sure neither does B Strong. 

I disagree but even if you're right I'm in the middle of this and I don't care what people's motivations are so long as they bring attention to what's happening. I've spent the last two days helping at a shelter because I am one of the few lucky ones in Houston, no damage and power. All the prayers are great but what's going to help are monetary donations not just to help NOW but tobhelp afterwards. 

Ive been at this shelter volunteering for two days and I have yet to see the Red Cross, not that they aren't out there helping but it's some of these other smaller charities that are helping the people in my neighborhood.

so if she wants to promote her charity from here to the moon 20 times over but brings awareness to what Texans are going through right now then Bravo to her! 

Oh and listing Michelle Obama? Who cares I don't see her anywhere either.

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[crgirl412]

I worked in the not-for-profit world in secular and faith-based organizations for a long time as a Volunteer, on staff as a Fundraiser and then as a Director and have huge issues with the unnecessary duplication of services. 

Much of the time they are "founded" by celebrities, Bravolebrities and other well-known people who don't have a clue about even the most basic things about a not-for-profit.  Their target demographic would be immensely better served by the "founders" giving their money, time and name to an organization that is already in existence and doing great work.      

[ZoloftBlob]

What bagger said. Is there any harm happening? How awful, Bethenny might get a few kudos for encouraging people to donate during a crisis. I agree the immediate need is for more direct charities is there, but three weeks from now when everyone has moved on to the next crisis, I bet there will still be some desperate women in Houston who appreciate what this charity does.

[motorcitymom65]

57 minutes ago, film noire said:

Again, where did I say that?

Quoting myself:

"...use your celebrity to give people a list of charities on the front line of the crisis right now, and don't divert resources from the most needed charities right now (those providing shelter, medication, and food). DFS is a great charity, but they don't have the infrastructure to do what the Red Cross (despite the controversy in the past) or similar humanitarian orgs are doing right now. And I'm pretty sure neither does B Strong. "

I criticized *where* she was asking donations to go, and  *how* she used that ask to upgrade visibility around her own charity -- a charity not set up to handle what is needed right now -- not that she was asking for donations, period. 

But those people are going to need clothes as well. Watching TV today at one of the shelters, they said they were in desperate need of clothing. Everyone does what they can. I work for a food company and we are sending down trucks of food. My husband works for a retailer, and they are sending trucks of clothing. The devastation isn't just about today. It will be days and weeks from now, when women who have lost everything need to go back to work. They will need something to wear. Bethenny is encouraging other women to make donations to help people in need. I just find it hard to criticize.