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S01.E18: Tricks of the Trade Parts 1 & 2

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Bastet
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One thing I did really like was Matty's frustration with Edwin being blind to the fact she retired - and he did not - because of Alfie, not because she wanted to, and how enjoyable practicing this kin

Irlandesa
Irlandesa

I'm going a bit against the grain here that while I loved last week's episode, this week's fell flat for me. And even though it ended on some cliffhangers, I don't think there's any I'm truly interest

johntfs
johntfs

Yay Sarah!  Boo Simone!  Fuck you, show!  Fall is too long to wait!

DanaK

DanaK

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Wow, Julian did it, he took the document, though at Senior’s request. And Alfie’s maybe dad showed up. I did not expect the season to end on a cliffhanger. I thought maybe they would resolve the mystery and we’d go into a new story or direction next season. I’m going to need to rewatch the episode because I wasn’t fully paying attention at times

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Chicago Redshirt

Chicago Redshirt

As always, lots of stuff to like, lots of stuff to head-scratch about.

Love the fact that Sarah won her first case. Love the reactions to Sarah's busted tooth from Olympia, even though it's a cheap laugh. Glad Hot Asian ADA wasn't brought back to take the L. Seems to me that there would have been telltale signs in the autopsy that it wasn't a sudden appendix burst and there were problems from the supplements. It doesn't really make much sense to me why he would have printed out e-mails and put them in a locked filing cabinet. Can't stand the fact that we are stuck with Simone for at least a couple more episodes. Dislike that Kira and Sarah broke up off-screen. Thought that they were going to head for a Sarah-Billy romance.

Surprised that Senior went with Olympia for partner. I wish they said "equity partner" because undoubtedly with associates reporting to her, Olympia is already a partner. He must really hate Julian. I am surprised that even his ex calls Senior Senior instead of what his actual name is. 

I guess it's good that the show solved its mystery but where indeed can they go from here? I was suspecting that Julian might super-break-bad and kill Olympia to keep his secret. What a dumbass for keeping the file in a safety deposit box. Also, the paper copy is not the only evidence of Wellbrexa's guilt, or Julian's complicity. There is undoubtedly more, from the apparent payoff that Wellbrexa/Senior made to the communications between Shae and Wellbrexa, Senior and Julian, and what not. Let's ignore how Julian had no particular reason/way to know Olympia was accessing his records  without permission, let alone t show up at the bank in the nick of time.

Am I a horrible person for wanting Alfie's dad to be bonafide and to whisk Alfie the hell off this show? More time for our core four!

I would be remiss if I didn't say I loved the interplay between Olympia and Matty, as always. I look forward to seeing how she handles the dilemma between sitting on the truth to protect her kids and revealing it and trying to end the opioid epidemic and write a major wrong. 

Still awaiting #justiceforbarrymanilow. But at least Olympia has her father's voicemail back. 

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Irlandesa

Irlandesa

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I'm going a bit against the grain here that while I loved last week's episode, this week's fell flat for me. And even though it ended on some cliffhangers, I don't think there's any I'm truly interested in.

Alfie's dad?  Well, I'd have to care about Alfie to care about his dad.  While I don't hate the kid, I preferred the episodes where he didn't appear and don't need a story focused around him.

Julian stealing the document?  I guess I wish there were a twist.  He's been on the periphery for the whole season.  I thought he'd have a larger role but he didn't.  Even still I liked him and I hate that he did this for his dad.  And whatever consequences he'd face.  The only curious thing to me is Olympia being off the education account. 

And I had a hard time believing the banker would just go "wanna see the safety deposit box?"  when she had shown no interest in that.  And she doesn't even have the key.  Don't those boxes need two keys?

I also had a hard time believing Julian saved the document he pulled and kept it for 14 years.  That's some Jane The Virgin telenovela crap which I dealt with when the show runner ran  a telenovela but I have less patience for here.

And I did not like the judge telling Sarah that she had to argue the case because she took it and no one else from the firm could.  That is not the way law works.  No.

And finally, this felt padded with all of the unnecessary flashbacks that didn't really add anything to the narrative. 

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Zaffy

Zaffy

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This show loves flashbacks, we get them before each episode. Why it feels it has to keep reminding us things? I think, please correct me if I am wrong, we basically got the show's premise before every single episode through the whole season. "Hey Viewer! Do not forget, Matty is there for her daughter". 
Do the creators thing we are idiots?

10 hours ago, DanaK said:

I did not expect the season to end on a cliffhanger. I thought maybe they would resolve the mystery and we’d go into a new story or direction next season.

Same here. I did not enjoy the cliffhangers, although there is still a chance/hope they are going to resolve this in the first few episodes of S2 and then go to a new direction. My guess is they will go after Senior.  And then I hope they will all start their own little firm or something. I really do not want a repetition of S1 with Olympia being a part of the team now. 

The writing sometimes is really annoying.. Like Julian appearing to the bank at the "right" moment? Same with Alfie's dad. 

9 hours ago, Chicago Redshirt said:

Am I a horrible person for wanting Alfie's dad to be bonafide and to whisk Alfie the hell off this show? More time for our core four!

I think daddy would be a very welcome "nanny". Edwin complained to Matty that he can't be the only one taking care of Alfie. And, oh the miracle, daddy appeared to help with Alfie.

I liked the fact that Matty's hubby seems fed up with all this, it does make sense. 

I also, and for the very first time, I did not find Billy and Sarah annoying. Who knows, I might even get to like them next season.
But I still do not care about their personal "dramas". 
Somehow though, I believe their issues will be the reason for them to follow Olympia to a possible new firm.

To conclude, it was an interesting season, not sure though   I would had kept watching if it wasn't for Kathy Bates. They need to improve their writing, now that they have set a foundation. I think the revenge scheme must end asap and move on with Matty being a lawyer again trying to win cases. 

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baldryanr

baldryanr

9 hours ago, Chicago Redshirt said:

Am I a horrible person for wanting Alfie's dad to be bonafide and to whisk Alfie the hell off this show? More time for our core four!

He has to be the real deal because (unless you believe in some high level conspiracy) proving it is trivial - just run a DNA test.  Of course, the showrunner could decide they don't have time to squeeze this subplot into the show (he's a fake!), but aside from that he's the dad.

Plus it will fit the likely theme of next season - how much do you weigh past behavior and crimes if the person has changed?  Dad was probably some deadbeat when Alfie was born, but what if he's cleaned up his act?  Julian was wrong to steal that file on behalf of Senior, but he's supposed to be a different person now.  So now what? 

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Percysowner

Percysowner

29 minutes ago, baldryanr said:

He has to be the real deal because (unless you believe in some high level conspiracy) proving it is trivial - just run a DNA test.  Of course, the showrunner could decide they don't have time to squeeze this subplot into the show (he's a fake!), but aside from that he's the dad.

Plus it will fit the likely theme of next season - how much do you weigh past behavior and crimes if the person has changed?  Dad was probably some deadbeat when Alfie was born, but what if he's cleaned up his act?  Julian was wrong to steal that file on behalf of Senior, but he's supposed to be a different person now.  So now what? 

DNA test makes sense. The legal parts of the show have been down right wrong at times, but I don't think they would ignore proving if this guy is the dad by doing a test. I'm guessing he is, but if not, then it may open a story where Matty and Edwin realize that Alfie and they NEED to find out about Alfie's father.

I agree, the theme of next season may well be can people change and if they do what behavior can be waived away and what can't. Certainly this year's theme is that people can be two things at the same time, including Julian, who is a good father, a mostly loving husband and who hid the Wellbrexa file because he wanted his dad to love him.

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Morrigan2575

Morrigan2575

This was awful. 

I was already losing interest but, good lord. 90% of this episode was filler the Sarah case might as well have been called The Flash for how quickly it went from death to Opening Statements. 

Then the included a clip show?! The EP had the audacity to say they had to make this a 2 parter because it was too much to wrap up Welbrexa in a single episode. More like CBS wanted more episode and they just padded this with useless/needless filling. 

I guess it should be happy that they didn't throw a gotcha in and, made it someone else but, in the end would have had more respect if they cleared Olympia and Julian or just had Julian find out afterwards and be 

10 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

And I had a hard time believing the banker would just go "wanna see the safety deposit box?"  when she had shown no interest in that.  And she doesn't even have the key.  Don't those boxes need two keys?

Yes! I totally forgot about that. Moat boxes require 2 keys, also that was a total WTF? We're divorced he approved access to the financial records but I don't think that covers safety deposit boxes.

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babyrambo

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Not as strong as last week’s, which is my top episode of the season, but still a solid finale. Definitely didn’t need to be two parts though. 

Because the double run time made me think they’d deviate from the normal formula, but other than the last 15 minutes of Part 2, this was pretty much a standard episode. Which meant a lot of padding and false starts while they dragged things out to the inevitable cliffhanger.

And by the end of Part 1, I was a little tired of it. Especially those seemingly endless flashbacks—maybe it was a network note about audience attention spans, but rehashing scenes they’d already shown in the same episode was tiresome. Really hope they drop the flashbacks in S2.  

Just like I was hoping they would drop Alfie’s dad. The second the kid mentioned doing something questionable at dinner, I knew he was hinting at finding his dad. Who I’m already bored of, because I foresee a custody battle and couldn’t care less. The kid is fine, but not essential to the show, so I don’t care if he stays or goes. Just like I don’t care about Claudia-Billy this baby thing. I was never invested in their relationship so running it back and adding a baby sounds like a snooze. I’d much rather watch Billy and Sarah date new people and settle into themselves as lawyers. Especially Sarah, who like more out of the two. I know she’s often written like an obtuse, crazy-ambitious caricature, but I prefer that to Billy, who is sometimes written like a bland, overly precious try hard. At least Sarah has bite. Even if it does get her into trouble, like with this case. Seeing her get a win was nice, but I wished they’d resolved it in Part 1 and left Part 2 to be about the overarching story. 

Because I knew the answer would be Senior by way of Julian. And seeing Olympia trying to maneuver everything was interesting, but I just wanted to get to the good stuff. I wanted Olympia to get sick of doing Matty-manipulation lite (which she was rather good at, I loved how Skye Marshall played the guilt and hesitancy of those moments) and just ask Julian point-blank about his involvement. Because the bank reveal was fine but I still don’t why he showed up here at all? Also don’t get why he went so far as to steal the document, only to keep it. But I guess his reasoning of guilt sort of makes sense. I also thought Olympia would up the stakes and reveal that Matty knew, but maybe they’re saving that for the season two premiere.

And come season two, I’m hoping they up the intensity of the cases, trim the fat with some of the side plots and characters (I wouldn’t mind seeing Shae again but Simone is cartoonishly evil and juvenile & needs to go) tighten up the roundabout storytelling, and expand on Olympia—I can maybe see her covering for Julian to protect the kids, but I still hope this Wellbrexa thing evolves in a way this isn’t too melodramatic, so she and Matty can at least come to a sincere understanding by the midseason point. Because having them at odds this episode revealed just how much their friendship elevates the show for me. I also wouldn’t mind seeing more of Senior. I’d never heard of that actor before, but he does sinister and suspicious really well. It’s the eyes and the smile, I think. Could definitely play the devil.

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shapeshifter

shapeshifter

Keeping the incriminating file of the study in an attorney’s personal safety deposit box seems odd. And Julian’s “I don’t know why I kept them…guilt?” cliffhanger seems like the writers don’t know either. Like Lost.
The only real reasons (to me) for Julian not shredding the documents are…

  • thought he’d get caught in the act
  • if he got a terminal illness that allowed him do it: He would send the docs to the NYT (maybe anonymously in hopes of protecting his kids from scandal)
  • he wanted to nail Dad for it

Don’t big companies have hidden files like this regularly? 
Like exploding Ford Pinto gas tanks?
Where do they keep them?
And Shae was or was not in on it?
IRL Mrs. B would get stuck with it.

Not sure I’m going to watch.
 

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cmahorror

cmahorror

While I enjoyed the episode, I was pulled out by the case of the week. Why? Because the punch was to the guys left side of his body but the appendix on the right side - I have the surgery scan from when mine was removed 40 years ago to always remind me. Unless they were claiming some kind of coup contrecoup trauma, that punch would not have caused his injury.

I get what Maddie was saying about not doing what she wanted for various reasons when she was younger and getting the chance now. He is complaining about doing the very thing she did for years. And why not stay there? They have a great house, Alfie seems to be doing well in school and has friends, and they are closer to Bitsy (who I want to be a regular cast member next season, maybe she could take over Alfe duties and hubby can go back to teaching part-time?). 

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bunnyface

bunnyface

I still don't buy that the Kingstons have this kind of money from contract law and professorship.  I mean, she retired from contract law 10-ish years ago.  She retired to take care of Alfie and got him when he was 18 months.  He's 12ish now.  So after 10 years, they still have enough money for:

A place in San Francisco to go back to (not cheap)

A nice house in Westchester (not cheap)

And apartment in Queens (not as bad but still not cheap)

A full-time chauffeur

6 full-time standby security guards who can get to her any time

Maybe not full-time but available anytime tech people to scrub and make internet histories as needed.

And who knows what else.  None of this is "retirement income" type of expenses.

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Percysowner

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20 minutes ago, cmahorror said:

I get what Maddie was saying about not doing what she wanted for various reasons when she was younger and getting the chance now. He is complaining about doing the very thing she did for years. And why not stay there? They have a great house, Alfie seems to be doing well in school and has friends, and they are closer to Bitsy (who I want to be a regular cast member next season, maybe she could take over Alfe duties and hubby can go back to teaching part-time?). 

I agree that Matty deserves to get her chance to continue to practice law and move into litigation. As to why not stay there, currently Olympia wants Matty gone from the firm and Matty doesn't have contacts with other firms in the area to move to. She does have ties and contacts back in San Francisco and has a better chance of recovering her career there. I'm sure she will have a reason to stay with Jacobson, Moore because the cast is remaining intact and they can't ALL move to San Francisco. However, at this point in the story it is logical that Matty would figure she needed to go back home to restart her career.

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nilyank

nilyank

As Matty was talking about being a lawyer that get to help people (pretty much like TV Matlock), I am assuming that she with Olympia and the other 2 opening up their own small firm fighting for the little people and even fight the bigger firms.

I think Julien kept the report because of guilt but also because it is also evidence that can be used to prove the conspiracy that Senior engineered. In the end, Senior is the Big Bad that used his own son not caring what that would mean for Julien.

I think Olympia will tell Matty and  they will find a way to get Senior with Julien's help.

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johntfs

johntfs

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2 hours ago, Ellee said:

Alfie’s dad — didn’t even cross my mind. 
 

Don’t believe Wellbrexa case is solved. No way does it ‘end up’ Julian regardless of what he said to Olympia.  What was the saying about two things being true?

 

The Wellbrexa case is "solved" in terms of "the audience and the deeply involved characters know what happened."  It's similar to Season One of Veronica Mars with its "Who killed Lily Kane?" mystery.  We learn who that person was at the end of that season.  Bringing that person to justice (or something like it) was part of the focus of Season 2.

 

As far as Season 2 of this show, I think there's going to be a pivot away from the Wellbrexa stuff and toward bringing Senior to justice (or something like it) for that and likely plenty of other shady, awful shit that he's done.  Which likely will mean bringing in Julian as a member of Mattie' cabal.  I mean, come on.  Jason Ritter is a main cast member of the show.  Beau Bridges is not.

 

In the world of this show, opioids are now "off the market" or at least far more tightly controlled.  Mattie/Madeline's goal wasn't to "get them off the market" but to hold accountable those who did crimes to keep them from going off the market sooner (and thus helped kill her daughter).  Roasting Julian and sending him to prison might be satisfying to Mattie and family, but Julian was ultimately just a tool for Senior.  It'd be like melting a murder weapon but letting the killer go free.

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johntfs

johntfs

32 minutes ago, Percysowner said:

I agree that Matty deserves to get her chance to continue to practice law and move into litigation. As to why not stay there, currently Olympia wants Matty gone from the firm and Matty doesn't have contacts with other firms in the area to move to. She does have ties and contacts back in San Francisco and has a better chance of recovering her career there. I'm sure she will have a reason to stay with Jacobson, Moore because the cast is remaining intact and they can't ALL move to San Francisco. However, at this point in the story it is logical that Matty would figure she needed to go back home to restart her career.

Olympia wants Mattie gone from the firm but right now they're stuck with each other.  Olympia isn't a fool.  She knows that whatever Mattie promises, there's no way her family isn't ruined if it comes out that Julian stole the study. 

At the same time, Olympia can't just go with Julian's plan of "shred the study."  Beyond the ethical violation, she knows how resourceful (and ruthless) Mattie is.  She knows Mattie will figure it out and nuke their family with what she already has.

The only way that Olympia and her kids survive this intact is if the law/media has a much bigger target on which to focus - Senior himself.  Getting Senior (and getting her family out from under this nightmare) means that she's going to need ruthless, resourceful Mattie at Jacobson, Moore to help her.  She, Mattie and Julian don't have to like each other to recognize that they have strong common ground in enemies with Senior.

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GHScorpiosRule

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I'm bummed. I was really hoping it wasn't Julian. Then again, the show is set up so that Matty is right 99% of the time, and she was so positive it had to be Julian, so, there we go.

And just as that's not how law firms work, that's not how banks/safe deposit boxes work! Yes, I was a bank teller during my college and post college years!

And it sounded like Senior told Julian to remove the file (he had a choice; he could have refused, but he still wanted his daddy's approval), so I'm on the side that Senior is the one who "stole" the file. He just didn't want to get his hands dirty.

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Bastet

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One thing I did really like was Matty's frustration with Edwin being blind to the fact she retired - and he did not - because of Alfie, not because she wanted to, and how enjoyable practicing this kind of law for the first time in her life has been.  I love when she said he got to finish his career, and now she wants to finish hers.  It was so realistic when she said she can't go back to being invisible and he just did not get it, saying she wasn't invisible to him.  Old age is not the same for men as it is for women, and he doesn't listen when she tries to share her experience.

They've done a good job throughout showing that while Edwin is a good guy and they have a good marriage, there have still been a lot of sexist assumptions along the way, like Matty always being the one to miss work if needed when Ellie was a kid, Matty being the one to retire when they got custody of Alfie, and now him wanting her to quit work again to take care of Alfie.  "I don't want to do it all myself."  Well, she didn't either, dude.  And Alfie needs a lot less care at this age, but if you still don't want to be the only one, hire a nanny.  (Of course, now there's potentially the dad to be involved, too, but he didn't know that at the time of the conversation.)  I loved "They're my golden years, too" when he said this isn't how he planned on spending his golden years -- she planned a career in litigation, but that got changed by sexual harassment.  She planned working until she was ready to retire, but that got changed by Alfie.  It's her turn.

All this soap opera shit, like Billy knocking up his ex, the possible baby daddy at the door, Julian trying to "for our kids" manipulate Olympia into betraying everything she stands for, and the thoroughly ridiculous version of the practice of law this show presents ... I don't know if the Matty/Olympia relationship that kept me around for season one will be enough to get me through season two.  We'll see.  But this story of a woman finding herself the most professionally fulfilled she's ever been at age 75, that I like.

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Bastet

Bastet

6 hours ago, paul4295 said:

I think I must have missed something about Simone.  Did her snooping around actually amount to anything during the show, or possibly set up something to happen next season?

That will play out next season; the last we saw of her in this finale was cozying up to the client, getting the info on how Sarah came to be his lawyer.  (It was a HUGE breach of firm protocol for her to take on a client without going through proper channels, especially because it means she didn't undergo the usual check to make sure there was no conflict of interest.  As Olympia said, it is a firable offense.  But Olympia chose not to fire her.  This little shithead Simone somehow thinks her first-year ass, who's already been thrown off one case, can go over an equity partner's head and get Sarah in trouble.)

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MissLucas

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Well, as someone who kept asking about Alfie's Dad all season long, that wasn't a big surprise. Especially not after Alfie brought up the whole legal guardian issue.

I was actually happy to see that the betrayal of Sarah was not forgotten. Did not expect its ramifications to be quite so dramatic but at least Matty realized that Sarah's overstepping had a lot do with herself. 

Not quite so happy to see how Olympia was eager to learn all the con tricks to manipulate people. This stuff looks a lot more charming on 'Leverage'.

Julian being the culprit (on Daddy's orders) isn't the twist most of us were hoping for. But it's a real gut punch for Olympia. I think the fact that Julian left the firm will probably come into play next season. Maybe he'll play whistle blower.

The conflict between Matty and Edwin was interesting. It has been clear for quite a while now that Matty is enjoying herself by just doing her job without all the spy shenanigans. And if Edwin was the one who got a slow retirement whilst she had to leave her job to take care of Alfie it's not surprising that there's some lingering resentment. I appreciate that their marriage is certainly one with a lot of love yet there are conflicts and cracks that show up from time to time.

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TimsLove25

TimsLove25

19 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

I'm going a bit against the grain here that while I loved last week's episode, this week's fell flat for me. And even though it ended on some cliffhangers, I don't think there's any I'm truly interested in.

Alfie's dad?  Well, I'd have to care about Alfie to care about his dad.  While I don't hate the kid, I preferred the episodes where he didn't appear and don't need a story focused around him.

Julian stealing the document?  I guess I wish there were a twist.  He's been on the periphery for the whole season.  I thought he'd have a larger role but he didn't.  Even still I liked him and I hate that he did this for his dad.  And whatever consequences he'd face.  The only curious thing to me is Olympia being off the education account. 

And I had a hard time believing the banker would just go "wanna see the safety deposit box?"  when she had shown no interest in that.  And she doesn't even have the key.  Don't those boxes need two keys?

I also had a hard time believing Julian saved the document he pulled and kept it for 14 years.  That's some Jane The Virgin telenovela crap which I dealt with when the show runner ran  a telenovela but I have less patience for here.

And I did not like the judge telling Sarah that she had to argue the case because she took it and no one else from the firm could.  That is not the way law works.  No.

And finally, this felt padded with all of the unnecessary flashbacks that didn't really add anything to the narrative. 

That's the weird vibe I kept getting but couldn't put my finger on it. The melodrama. A telenova, of course.

"What have I ever done to make you not trust me ?"...ummm Olympia ? You went through her wallet, followed her, had her license plate traced, kept her prisoner in a locked room. For starters. Olympia has NO self awareness. 

Shoulda known they would make one of the two white guys (well, both of them really) the bad guys.

How original. 

The only thing the show had going for it that was interesting, was the mystery of who hid the discovery.

And now it's going to be a telenova. No, thanks. 

Poor Kathy Bates.

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Bastet

Bastet

26 minutes ago, TimsLove25 said:

"What have I ever done to make you not trust me ?"...ummm Olympia ? You went through her wallet,

It was Alfie's wallet.  All Olympia knew was someone left a wallet behind, and she opened it to see whose it was, not to snoop.  So that was innocent.  And all the other things she did afterward happened in response to things she learned Matty had not been truthful about.  If Olympia did those things out of the blue, they'd be things that should cause Matty not to trust her.  But in the context they happened, I don't see them as examples of that. 

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PokerDot

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19 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

And I had a hard time believing the banker would just go "wanna see the safety deposit box?" 

I had a hard time believing that a banker would call it a "safety" deposit box. 

I thought Alfie's secret was that he, too, was pregnant. I mean, why not? That's TV's go-to wrinkle.

I kept thinking that I'd be fine with next season starting with Olympia, Mattie, and the two kids at Olympia and Mattie's new law firm after Senior kicks Olympia out of the firm for turning in her ex. Hey, move to San Francisco. We all need a change of scenery.

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TimsLove25

TimsLove25

53 minutes ago, Bastet said:

It was Alfie's wallet.  All Olympia knew was someone left a wallet behind, and she opened it to see whose it was, not to snoop.  So that was innocent.  And all the other things she did afterward happened in response to things she learned Matty had not been truthful about.  If Olympia did those things out of the blue, they'd be things that should cause Matty not to trust her.  But in the context they happened, I don't see them as examples of that. 

And I do.

And I think most people would.

 

You lock me in a room against my will when you aren't a LEO and you aren't arresting me ?

The first thing I'm going to think, is that person is mentally unstable.

The second thing is I'd never turn my back on her again.

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preeya

preeya

21 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

And I had a hard time believing the banker would just go "wanna see the safety deposit box?"  when she had shown no interest in that.  And she doesn't even have the key.  Don't those boxes need two keys?

There are definitely two keys: one handled by the vault custodian and the other by the box's owner or co-owner.

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possibilities

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Matty not trusting Olympia because she knows she betrayed Olympia and Olympia is pissed. I get it. Matty knows that turnabout is fair play and if Olympia was lying to her, well... Matty kind of knows she kind of deserves it. And she just finished teaching Olympia how to manipulate people, so all the more reason to have her guard up.

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Nashville

Nashville

14 hours ago, cmahorror said:

While I enjoyed the episode, I was pulled out by the case of the week. Why? Because the punch was to the guys left side of his body but the appendix on the right side - I have the surgery scan from when mine was removed 40 years ago to always remind me. Unless they were claiming some kind of coup contrecoup trauma, that punch would not have caused his injury.

And geez, now you made me HAVE to go and look up the incidence rate of situs inversus in the general population….

(…it’s 0.01%, btw)

Chicago Redshirt

Chicago Redshirt

17 hours ago, bunnyface said:

I still don't buy that the Kingstons have this kind of money from contract law and professorship.  I mean, she retired from contract law 10-ish years ago.  She retired to take care of Alfie and got him when he was 18 months.  He's 12ish now.  So after 10 years, they still have enough money for:

A place in San Francisco to go back to (not cheap)

A nice house in Westchester (not cheap)

And apartment in Queens (not as bad but still not cheap)

A full-time chauffeur

6 full-time standby security guards who can get to her any time

Maybe not full-time but available anytime tech people to scrub and make internet histories as needed.

And who knows what else.  None of this is "retirement income" type of expenses.

It depends on what kind of contract lawyer Matty was. If she was drawing contracts up for mom-and-pop companies, maybe that wouldn't be lucrative. If she was drawing up contracts for Silicon Valley's best, brightest and wealthiest, that's a different story.

Let's say Madeline Kingston had about 40 years as a lawyer, graduating law school around 24-5 and working from when she was about 65 in 2015 or when they got full custody of Alfie, somewhere in that time frame. If she went out as a partner at a big firm (which I suspect she did), she could have been pulling in a million dollars a year, easily, for the last bunch of them. If she spent from 1990-2015 specializing in working with high-tech companies, she could have gotten even more. Remember, in less than a year with Jacobson Moore, Matty as a first-year-associate with 10 years of rust on her and maintaining a cover identity has helped the firm win more than $70 million in verdicts ($20 million in the wrongful conviction case, $9 million in the wrongful termination case, several million in the class-action against the prison, and I want to say another $40 million in the Slamm'd settlement.) Keep in mind she also spent lots of time doing pro bono work that had no immediate pay off.

It's safe to assume Matty was successful over years in her chosen field, in her prime, where she was able to leverage her connections, and in a position for her to directly earn a piece of the firm's profit from her victories (and those of her partners and associates).

For discussion's sake, let's say she was taking home $1 million a year for the last 20 years of her career, and that Edwin's salary was enough to cover their expenses. Invest her earnings the right way and you've got the sort of money where you can afford the sorts of things we're talking about.

Given her demonstrated knack for solving things with creative solutions, being single-minded and let's face it, willing to bend rules in the pursuit of her interests, I could easily see her as having been on the right side of a few IPOs or venture capitalism deals in the 1990s and being not just a "mere" multimillionaire, but closer to a billionaire. I think Bitsy had talked about how Matty left to "make it rain" and so whatever Matty did, she was apparently successful at it.

San Francisco and the surrounding area was once affordable. It's entirely plausible that Matty and Edwin bought property in various places when they were young (each of them having then holding on to their own home, or having bought Ellie a place in addition to seeking rental income, or getting investment properties), in the 1980s or 90s, and since flipped them for million-dollar profits.

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18 hours ago, cmahorror said:

While I enjoyed the episode, I was pulled out by the case of the week. Why? Because the punch was to the guys left side of his body but the appendix on the right side - I have the surgery scan from when mine was removed 40 years ago to always remind me. Unless they were claiming some kind of coup contrecoup trauma, that punch would not have caused his injury.

4 hours ago, Nashville said:

And geez, now you made me HAVE to go and look up the incidence rate of situs inversus in the general population….

(…it’s 0.01%, btw)

Videos captured on iphones and uploaded to FB get reversed (during the pandemic I helped a fellow librarian re-reverse her storytime videos so the print wasn't backwards). 
If something like this happened in the filming of the punch in this episode, they should have either fixed it in post or used it as a plot point. 

 

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