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In some ways this episode was almost a comedy. Can't tell you how often I laughed - the dry humor with the Bitter Pill guys, so many of Konstantin's lines (that actor is a treasure), the cheap laugh of the golfer's "plumber's crack" - this was a great episode (except for poor Mo - I figured it was about time he donned the red shirt). Did anybody understand what V said to the 12 woman when she was revealing a secret (like V is stupid or something)? It sounded like something about shitting in a shoe when she was three but even after multiple listenings, I wasnt sure exactly what she said.

Lori Vallow's mother made me think of a cross between "Whatever Happened To Baby Jane" and Tammy Faye Bakker. Scarey indeed and if you're going to hell, I'm bringing the wine!

I usually only lurk on this forum rather than posting comments (I save those for other shows) but I was so appalled by this show that my teeth are set on edge with outrage. One of the things that liberals are usually accused of are of being "elitist" and Bill brought that attitude in spades. Maybe if he actually ventured into the "real world" most of us live in, he'd realize that not everyone is able to shop at Whole Foods, have the time and money to join a gym or have a personal trainer, and live what he feels is a "healthy" lifestyle. Unfortunately, junk food is cheaper (and faster!) than good food and many people in this country live in whats called "food deserts". They don't have good access to fresh fruits and vegetables and can't afford quality meats. Not to mention the time it takes to prepare such foods (I'm a failed vegetarian - I know all about healthy food and how much time it takes to shop and prepare it). Kind of hard to eat like a rich person living in So. Cal when you're working 2 jobs and having long commutes. And there is also more to many health issues that are beyond people's control. Genetics play a part and science is finding viral infections may play a part in autoimmune diseases, but don't tell Fat Shamers like Bill all that. Oh and as far as Bill wanting the world to get back to normal (cause, God Forbid, he wants to go to a restaurant and hang with friends), maybe he should get off his high horse and come to NY for a visit. He can see the newspaper stories about U Haul trucks with rotting bodies because a funeral home became overwhelmed and didn't know where to put them. He can read the first hand accounts from the folks who work in hospitals and what they've been dealing with. Part of the reason for the "NY Pause" was not only to save lives but to prevent the hospitals from being totally overwhelmed, and to be honest, the "Pause' really came a few weeks too late to prevent that from happening. But people like Bill Maher really don't care about that - they care about their entitled "wants" and if the old people and the "sick" people (who apparently in Bill's view bring that upon themselves), and the working folks who man the kitchens where Bill likes to eat, and pick up the garbage, and clean houses, and work at hospitals, and meat packing plants, die, well, hey! People gonna die any way! I'm really sorry to see that Bill Maher seems to be a believer in Social Darwinism - I always wanted to see Bill live - but after this - the guy won't ever get a dime of my money.

Such a weird and heartbreaking story! I have to agree with just about all the other posts here - and it now seems like the mystery is who was apparently once buried in the areas that the cadaver dogs sniffed out and how strange was it that the dogs sniffed out areas in TWO different locations where these people lived. Maybe there was a different, young, child who was killed (thus the very small shoe) who the other girls don't remember? Or was this possible victim even a child of this family or another child who "the demon" murdered? Back in the 80s there was almost a hysteria in this country about "Satanic Cults" and all sorts of people got pulled into this craziness. That mother - words just can't express - and the step-father - he probably got away with murdering SOMEBODY, but who?

All of this! I was screaming at the TV when she had the meeting with the narcotics cop - bring a witness or record this or SOMETHING! I knew her "trust" was gonna bite her in the ass. And maybe Cooper would have been a better choice for Chief, but if Tommy loses this job there isn't going to be a TV show, correct? So my bet (because Cooper isn't a White Guy), is that he is going to do the right thing and help bring down the conspiracy. On one hand, as much as he would probably want to be Chief, what is the quote? "Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown". And he probably knows damn well that once the conspiracy gets what they want (Tommy out), they could throw him under the bus as well (and probably will).

Ok, I like this show but it seems in the Tommy universe almost all white men are assholes at best and walking evil at worst. The only decent white guy is the nebbishy speech writer (or whatever he is) with the arm in the sling. Mayor Buddy can still go either way. After a while you get sick of being hit over the head with this. I'm still sick and tired of the daughter draaama and the going back and forth of "please come live here", "move out now!", "move back in". Enough already! Tommy must make enough money to afford her own place (even in L.A.), and now she has the hot lover - is she gonna sneak her in at 1 am? I totally love the techie cop even though they had to get rid of the original male techie guy (because you must have a young Asian woman on this team "somewhere").

This story was a perfect example of Ann Lander's saying " The holes in her head match the rocks in his". One of the first things I noticed was how much the obnoxious daughter and #2 wife looked alike. That alone was kind of weird, especially because wife #1 didnt look like that. And I could imagine wife #2 resented the daughter because there probably were some boundry issues there (speaking as a person with, ahem, experience with that). I guess what really gets me with about how fucked up that marriage was, was that these people could have had such a wonderful life. They had money, good health, freedom and what did they do with all these blessings? Booze, abuse, attempted murder... I will say that 11K dress was f-ing gorgeous!

Good episode but another vote against the entitled daughter and hipster (ugh) husband. I'd be find if they shuffled off to Buffalo or where ever. You KNOW the scumbag real estate developer is going to be the on-going big bad (at least for a while) and not only is he going to try and find something on Tommy, you know he's going to be using Mayor Buddy's weekend with the PR woman against him.

Great episode! And funny how the two people who supposedly have it all together (Trevor the shrink, and Marjorie) were the ones who needed help from the gang this episode. Tammy was just amazing with her building skills (love the sound proofing!) and Bonnie was pretty amazing also. I can understand how Trevor wound up in that dump of an apartment. Maybe his wife cleaned out the bank account before she hit him with divorce papers, and I don't know how it is in CA, but where I live in NY, most places want 3 months rent up front - that's an awful lot of money to come up with with if your bank accounts have been cleaned out.

Roadtrip - yes, indeedy - as soon as they showed the police tape of "the grieving husband" pulling his Sarah Heartburn act, I said to my companion, "Yup, he was behind it!". Who the hell really acts like that in real life? I think that these murderous people who have their spouses bumped off (or do it themselves) must watch too many soap operas or very old movies to think that's how bereft people behave. I'm sure most cops roll their eyes at that kind of theatrics and figure the person has something to hide. And yeah, this guy had the Golden Goose but guess he figured that he'd be better off with the 5 mill in insurance money than whatever alimony his wife was going to have to pay him in a divorce. Finally, Frick and Frack, the murderers from the midwest. So you just go and kill this poor woman who never did a damn thing to you, and you don't even get a downpayment for the hit? All sorts of stupid right there if you ask me! And I agree with Judy Obscure - too bad all 3 of them didn't get life, though frankly, I think all 3 should have gotten the chair.

Very good episode and well acted. It seems as if this show has gotten much better this season, which in a way is too bad as its in the CBS Sunday night death slot.

This was an entertaining episode which could've been the season finale. I really hope that we've seen the last of Susie the Spy. And Aiden Gillen is very likable but man! The Captain - he is hot stuff and even though I could easily be the actor's mother, he can put his shoes under my bed any time!

Wow, The Ranch was incredibly sad. I'm glad that Eduardo made it out alive - the man must had some incredible will to live. The bastard that was holding him hostage must've been an incredible sadist to do that to another human being. And to do it to somebody that you actually know who has apparently done no harm to you - words just can't express it. I wouldn't be surprised that Jayne's cancer killing her was partially due to all the stress she had been under (and she probably delayed treatment). That was the icing on the cake of heartbreaking for this episode - after all that couple had been through, you just wanted them to be together another 30 years. And it really seems to me that between what we saw on the show and what I've been reading in the paper, that Mexico has turned into a lawless state. Sometimes I think that rather than our military spending almost 20 years in the middle east, we would've been better served looking south of our own borders. Unfortunately, American's love of drugs seems to have destroyed so much of Latin America and turned it into a place that people desperately want to escape.

If only.... it seems as if so many people who are least able to raise children have them. Read the New York City papers and sometimes your heart will break with some of the cases involving children.

I actually hope this is true. Actually though, with Pride's job, he'd have little trouble finding out if the guy died or not. Wouldn't he basically have to do a records search of let's say mid-60s, if any bodies were found or if a brutally beaten person was brought to a hospital? Oh gee, slapping my head here - Hurricane Katrina - all records will have been destroyed....