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jfer21
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So what are the odds that the Chim/Maddie baby gets named after Bobby now? I think I'm getting an hour back of my life next season too. I love Angela but not enough to stick around without Bobby.

stonehaven
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Sigh, I'm out. This means more Eddie and no Bobby? Peter didn't want to leave? Nope, I don't play that.  I'll finish out the season but the fun is gone. 

Infie
Infie

I have a slightly different take on things, based on the comments so far.  My complaint about having the 118 in mortal danger so often was that - well, it wasn't actually necessary for the show t

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iMonrey

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Well damn. Here I was last week complaining the show didn't have the guts to kill off a major character. Never saw this coming. And up until the reveal that Bobby was infected too I was thinking it was a pretty decent episode. I wonder if the helicopter chase was a real thing or some kind of CGI. Luring all the authorities away from the lab was a smart plan (although I question whether ALL of them would have abandoned the lab). 

27 minutes ago, buttersister said:

Ok, I see from this article it was Tim M's big idea and if this is correct, then I get an extra hour a week next season. USA Today

Eh. Nothing is going to convince me this wasn't a cost cutting measure. Peter Krause and Angela Bassett are likely the highest paid actors on the show and if they wrote off Athena we'd lose our one major police character.

10 minutes ago, stonehaven said:

Sigh, I'm out. This means more Eddie and no Bobby? Peter didn't want to leave? Nope, I don't play that.  I'll finish out the season but the fun is gone. 

The fun has been gone for awhile now. Not sure I'll be back either. I don't know if it was the move to ABC or just what but at some point this show lost the fun and started swinging for the drama Emmy. They're never going to get it. They should have stayed in their lane.

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agathapenny

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18 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

The fun has been gone for awhile now. Not sure I'll be back either. I don't know if it was the move to ABC or just what but at some point this show lost the fun and started swinging for the drama Emmy. They're never going to get it. They should have stayed in their lane.

Yeah, it does feel like they're trying to create an Emmy reel rather than make the show we all started watching and loved. And they're never going to beat whatever critical darling of the day is new on some streaming service.

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Irlandesa

Irlandesa

it's funny because I've been seeing a lot of complaints that there were never any stakes with these near death experiences since this show doesn't kill anyone.  Personally, that was always what I liked about the show. 

Because otherwise?  You get this.  Someone should die is rarely as much fun in reality. 

I've actually been spoiled about this probably happening for a few weeks.  Some of the scenes that were in the promo for the episode in two weeks were seen being filmed outside a few weeks ago.

At the time, I thought it must be because Peter Krause wanted to leave.  He had joked about wanting Bobby killed during the cruise ship disaster so I was at peace with it.  Yet now it sounds like that might not have been the case and I'm not happy. I liked my cast full of plot armor individuals.

4 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Nothing is going to convince me this wasn't a cost cutting measure. Peter Krause and Angela Bassett are likely the highest paid actors on the show and if they wrote off Athena we'd lose our one major police character.

I think this too.  I think it might also be testing the NCIS/Grey's Anatomy staying power of the original by doing some major cast changes.  I'm still 50/50 on whether or not Eddie returns to LA.

The thing about Angela is the EP title she gets for this isn't just a vanity title.  She had a more active role in developing the show which is why she got credited as an EP on Lone Star and will likely get the same credit on Nashville. Peter also had that credit for 911 but he didn't get it from Lone Star.

4 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I wonder if the helicopter chase was a real thing or some kind of CGI.

The inside of the helicopter scenes were likely filmed on a soundstage but everything else was real.  https://deadline.com/2025/04/9-1-1-showrunner-helicopter-chase-apocalypse-now-wagner-1236371580/

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marceline

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I accidentally got spoiled on this by a headline at TVLine so I knew going in. I wonder how it would've played for me had I gone in blind. I'm guessing Ravi was supposed to be a fake out.

Athena watching her husband die. Yikes.

When Bobby said LA was supposed to be his penance not his home I was done.

I guess we know why the show has been light on rescues lately. They were saving up the budget for helicopter chases and a big funeral.

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Cloud9Shopper

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I missed the episode live last night because it was Holy Thursday but I saw Peter/Bobby trending on Google and decided to check out the results. Once I did, I didn’t feel like watching today. Bobby and Athena were my first favorite couple of the show and it feels like too much is missing now. (I predict they are going to move Maddie’s cry faces and constant trauma front and center, which is a pet peeve of mine on shows even though I don’t mind Maddie overall. I still bet she will get some kind of childbirth emergency with this baby.) Plus…I don’t want to deal with Gerrard again. The actor plays him convincingly and I get that he’s a great villain, but…enough already? Same with Athena who already lost her fiancé and went through a divorce. 

I really hope this is all a hallucination or a fake out but I’m not holding out hope. Even then, the whole thing would still feel too cheap. I haven’t liked the direction of 8b so far to begin with and this doesn’t help. 

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Empress1

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11 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Peter Krause and Angela Bassett are likely the highest paid actors on the show and if they wrote off Athena we'd lose our one major police character.

I believe Angela is also a producer.

Tracie Thoms spoiled this on Threads this morning. Poor Athena - her fiancé dies, she gets divorced, is lucky enough to find love again, and now had to watch that love die. I’d be like “I’m good on relationships” if I were her. Eddie’s departure, meh, but Bobby was the heart of the show. I will miss him striding sexily into rescues.

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Chaos Theory

Chaos Theory

I watch ALOT of hard core gritty drama.  911 was my escapism fun crazy adventure show with occasional heartwarming moments.  I do think the show changed  when it switched networks.   Less scenes in the call center and I am guessing some general cost cutting.  
 

And now this.   I think i am tapping out.  I liked by 911 with plot armor.  I am done.

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michelec

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31 minutes ago, Empress1 said:

Poor Athena - her fiancé dies, she gets divorced, is lucky enough to find love again, and now had to watch that love die. I’d be like “I’m good on relationships” if I were her.

Damn, I forgot all about Emmett. Yeah, that makes it worse, if that's even possible.

I had mentioned a couple of episodes back that I was struggling with this season and that it had become a chore to watch. Looking back on the series as a whole, the vibe definitely changed when it moved to ABC. It became much heavier.

Even though I came to the show very late and caught up in a matter of weeks, I loved the wacky rescues and the character storylines that were heartfelt but had some elements of hope.  I wish TPTB had stayed on that track just so we could have at least a one-hour escape from *gestures wildly at everything*. I'm not sticking around for the rest of the season to see the fallout, it's just too much. I'll just fondly remember seasons 1-6 and memory hole the rest.

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Empress1

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7 minutes ago, TVForever said:

Okay, so it looks like this was as much a surprise to everyone as it was to me. I kept waiting for someone to wake up and have this be a dream. Then the previews for the next episode came on, and I'm going, "Dang, they just killed off Bobby for real?"

😢😢😢

Peter Krause has put out a farewell statement, so Bobby is well and truly dead.

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anna0852

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37 minutes ago, Chaos Theory said:

I watch ALOT of hard core gritty drama.  911 was my escapism fun crazy adventure show with occasional heartwarming moments.  I do think the show changed  when it switched networks.   Less scenes in the call center and I am guessing some general cost cutting.  
 

And now this.   I think i am tapping out.  I liked by 911 with plot armor.  I am done.

I quit watching for the most part when they shifted to ABC because the tone shifted away from the fun crazy adventures. BTW, if you’re looking for a replacement fun crazy show try The Rookie on Tuesdays. It’s the same folks who did Bones and kinda has the same energy.

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Gramto6

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1 hour ago, anna0852 said:

BTW, if you’re looking for a replacement fun crazy show try The Rookie on Tuesdays. It’s the same folks who did Bones and kinda has the same energy.

Yes! I found it over last summer in reruns and watched all the way up to the new season #7 that started in Jan. Added plus is it stars Nathan Fillion.  It does have the feel of the old 911.

ETA Reruns of The Rookie are on Lifetime several days a week if you want a peek.

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DearEvette

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Y'know, I haven't really watched the show this season.  It hasn't felt the same.  The fun for me were the rescues esp. the themed show.  The  interpersonal drama was a nice bonus. 

It used to be a comfort show because I knew I could sit back and enjoy them rescuing people, being put in jeopardy, but not really in huge jeopardy and having a lively amount of humor.

But yeah, killing off Bobby makes the show lose its comfort show appeal to me.  I know they are first responders and there is a fair amount of danger, but it has always a been a bit on the less fraught side. Bobby and Athena were supposed to survive The Poseidon Adventure because that is the architecture of the show.  It feels like they reneged on a contract by doing this. 

 So I am out.  I still have the early seasons to re-binge and necessary.

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marceline

marceline

Ugh. I just remembered that Bobby and Athena were building their dream home.

I know it can't happen but I wish Michael and David could return for the funeral. Michael's relationship with Bobby was such a nice one. 

So this is how Eddie comes back, I assume. Yay.

I know this feels awful but people were complaining in the last episode's thread about the lack of stakes. This is what stakes feel like.

One of the many things Angela Bassett excels at is portraying grief. The only person better at it is her real-life husband. (I have a running joke with friends that when I die, I want someone to hire Courtney B. Vance to come to the service just to act all mournful and bereft.)

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agathapenny

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10 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

it's funny because I've been seeing a lot of complaints that there were never any stakes with these near death experiences since this show doesn't kill anyone.  Personally, that was always what I liked about the show. 

Because otherwise?  You get this.  Someone should die is rarely as much fun in reality. 

Someone further down this thread said it feels like they violated the contract with the audience — that this show is a fun rescue show, with some good interpersonal drama punctuated throughout — when they killed Bobby and that's exactly how I feel about it.

I could not agree more with everything you said. I enjoyed watching this, knowing that it was all going to be OK.  And do I ever need that right now with the state of the world. This is not what I signed up for.

I have no idea why they think I'd want to now watch episodes filled with trauma of the characters grieving Bobby. No thanks. Furthermore, I don't know how they ever go back to the light tone. It almost feels like Minear just wanted to film the pageantry of a firefighter funeral, and so this storyline was born. 

The final season of Lone Star this year was a steaming pile of unmitigated crap, now this. It makes me not want to check out the new spinoff, if this is what the show runner thinks people want to see.

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Cloud9Shopper

Cloud9Shopper

14 minutes ago, DearEvette said:

Y'know, I haven't really watched the show this season.  It hasn't felt the same.  The fun for me were the rescues esp. the themed show.  The  interpersonal drama was a nice bonus. 

It used to be a comfort show because I knew I could sit back and enjoy them rescuing people, being put in jeopardy, but not really in huge jeopardy and having a lively amount of humor.

But yeah, killing off Bobby makes the show lose its comfort show appeal to me.  I know they are first responders and there is a fair amount of danger, but it has always a been a bit on the less fraught side. Bobby and Athena were supposed to survive The Poseidon Adventure because that is the architecture of the show.  It feels like they reneged on a contract by doing this. 

 So I am out.  I still have the early seasons to re-binge and necessary.

I was watching a Season 3 episode on WE today, the one where dispatch is held hostage, and it makes me miss the old show and not this new version that wants to be SVU (which also is very long past its prime) or something else it just isn’t. (I’ve never seen The Rookie so can’t comment on that.)

I think when I rewatch I‘ll stop at the episode before Maddie gets kidnapped. 

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gonzosgirrl

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Count me as another who got spoiled on the episode by social media (entirely my own fault) and had a visceral wtf reaction. I have it PVRd but I don't think I'll even watch it. I love me some angsty, emotional drama, but that's not what I watched this show for. For me, the transition to soap opera is now complete and I think I'm out.

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michelec

michelec

37 minutes ago, Cloud9Shopper said:

I think when I rewatch I‘ll stop at the episode before Maddie gets kidnapped. 

This makes me think of when I rewatch OG Law & Order. I always skip seasons 15-17 because they were so godawful. I think in this case, my line will be the season 6 finale. The final scene is Bobby and Athena happy and relaxed as they head to their long-awaited cruise honeymoon.  Sailing off into the sunset with good vibes. Can't think of a better happy ending.

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tennisgurl

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The more time I have to sit on this, the more it feels like a horrible idea. Tim Minear probably heard all of the jokes about how hard it is to kill any of these people and saw the shows reputation of being popcorn TV and not a prestige award winning type of show and decided that he would show us all and give us a super dark turn, killing off arguably the shows main character, so that he could soak up the fans and critics being impressed by his "bold creative decision" but I think he'll realize soon how badly he miscalculated. At its peak, this show was never some dark gritty drama, this was a fun popcorn show that certainly had real emotions and steaks, but with a lot of fun in-between, with lovable competent characters getting into hijinks as they help save lives. Then at some point, pretty much after the network switch, they decided that they wanted to add way more melodrama, maybe to make the show a more "respectable" drama, but that is not the show the fans signed up for and its sucks that he doesn't get that.

I just don't really know how we ever get back to where we were, losing Bobby really feels like losing the shows steady background, any moment of fun time will always have "Bobby is still dead" is the background putting a damper on everything. This loss is certainly going to either be a huge shadow over the show for the characters as well as the fans, with several episodes of everyone grieving someone who they loved dying in such a tragic terrible way, or we have one or two sad episodes before everyone moves on, which will feel disingenuous, I know that I am not going to be ready for wisecracks and saving guys from toilets on first dates after we just saw Bobby dying, they have written themselves into a huge corner and I don't think the audience is here for it.

Now Athena has lost her first love to a random shooting, her first husband was gay and it ended in divorce, and now she lost her second husband in this horrible sudden way just as they were building their dream home. Dear God.

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gonzosgirrl

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40 minutes ago, KeithJ said:

I assume they'll bring in a new captain next season? None of the current cast is really captain material.

I can see them promoting either Hen or Chim. I don't imagine they want to pay for another 'name' to come in as captain, and they've pretty much already shown the guy who already replaced Bobby once (can't recall his name) to be pretty much batshit crazy. Okay, probably not crazy but not 118 Captain material.

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MarylandGirl

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54 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

I can see them promoting either Hen or Chim. I don't imagine they want to pay for another 'name' to come in as captain, and they've pretty much already shown the guy who already replaced Bobby once (can't recall his name) to be pretty much batshit crazy. Okay, probably not crazy but not 118 Captain material.

I could also see them promoting either Hen or Chim.

Now I've cried over Peter Krause's character dying in two different shows (Six Feet Under being the other, but at least that was a couple episodes before the planned ending). Not sure if this is an unpopular opinion, but I'd have greatly preferred Athena going over Bobby. I like Angela Bassett, but am not a big fan of her character on here (I think it's a writing thing, not an acting thing). Unsure whether I'll keep watching after this season.

Also, I wonder if this brings Buck and Tommy back together?

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possibilities

possibilities

I'm very unhappy with this story, but I was not one of the people who wanted them to kill off a character. I'm wondering if the people who wanted a character death are happy, just not talking about it much because so many of us are talking about how much we don't like it.

I guess we'll see if ther ratings go down. I personally do not think I will be back, not even for the rest of the season. I agree that they have written themselves into a no win situation. Either they make the show a gloomy miserable traumafest, which I'm not interested in. Or they move on, which I would find incredibly insulting.

The show that used to be fun is now just another soapy exercise in misery porn. No thanks.

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dkb

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I need an uncontrollable sobbing emoji because that's what I was doing after watching this episode. Not Bobby! 

But I knew it wasn't gonna be Chimney when I saw the articles that a major character dies but was not expecting Bobby.

This week in April always sucks for my family so maybe that's why it hit so hard. But of course he would sacrifice himself for his team, the line about him always being on borrowed time 😢

Bobby better get the most perfect memorial episode ever.

This is one of my comfort shows so not sure if I will be dropping it depends on what happens next episode and maybe the 1st episode of the next season.

Also I absolutely despise Moira, and didn’t like the whimsical way she was being portrayed. You are a horrible human being Moira.

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Realitystarr

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Looking back at the season now knowing they killed off Bobby it could be seen he had a full character arc,  meeting up with his estranged mother and brother, then the prior episode where he saved that baby in the back seat and came out alive. 

I wondered even then if he was going to die in the near future.  Like one of those Final Destination thing.

The show has not been the same for a season or two. I like Jennifer Hewitt but all this damn crying all the time is annoying.

I never got over knowing so much about the actor who played Eddie being a MAGA and the rest of the cast doesn't  like him for a few years now, so I was hoping he would be the one killed off.

I doubt I will continue watching the show because Bobby was the glue that held the whole station together.

Oh well, one less reason to keep my Hulu subscription.

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Diana Berry

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Wow stunned.  I wanted Eddie back but not like this.  
 

Bobby was one of the best tv good guys out there.  I would have kept Bobby over Athena.  Just really bummed. Here’s hoping Krause gets another show fast.  
 

I’ll keep,watching just to see how  it goes ,how it’s handled.  I don’t even begin to know how the tone will be after the funeral.  This show is officially not fun anymore.  

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Infie

Infie

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I have a slightly different take on things, based on the comments so far. 

My complaint about having the 118 in mortal danger so often was that - well, it wasn't actually necessary for the show to be good.  The best episodes were the ones with the wild and amazing rescues and the coherent themes to the stories, not the ones where someone from the 118 might die.  Yes, there were some good eps with that premise, but even then the things that made those episodes good wasn't the risk of the character dying, it was the love that the other characters showed for them. 

I feel like many of the folks who were saying that there's no suspense when the 118 is in danger actually meant what I describe above; not that they wanted someone to die, but that they didn't want to see the no-stakes jeopardies anymore.  Those aren't equivalent ideas.  I don't want to see Chimney almost dead when I know he's going to survive doesn't mean "kill Chimney" - it means stop pretending to be about to kill Chimney.  I am happiest when the characters are doing their jobs and rocking it.  Why does Chimney have to almost die AT ALL? 

And that is why I am so profoundly disappointed in 9-1-1 now.  For the last few seasons the swing towards having the major characters in mortal jeopardy has gone WAY too far.  It's every freaking episode.  Do the writers think that makes good TV? (spoiler alert - it does not).  The complaints about this fact did not mean 'we want you to kill someone' - it meant 'tell good stories'. Killing Bobby is not telling a good story, and is not in line with the tone of the show.   

Like many others here, I don't see how the show can proceed and be fun now. 

What a mess. 

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