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S03.E14: A Funeral Fit for a Quartermaine

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I am in the mood for happy endings, and I guess this is the best Rafael could hope for. 

Bummed out about Oremwood, though. The show seems to think they have to torment at least one character a week. I thought he needed glasses or something. I really didn't think of a brain tumor. Also, now we know he has shrapnel in his head-- that's never good, and on TV it probably means eventually that causes some kind of problem. He for sure can't have an MRI.

I loved the opening with Will and Betty as GH credits. I really did enjoy the relationship between Will and Rafael, and I like that the show finds ways to remind us that life is complicated.

Where is Grandma's body, if it wasn't in the casket?

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Jodithgrace

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What did they do with Grandma?

A brain tumor is bad, but if it’s not malignant, it’s better than what I thought when he first collapsed, which was a stroke. He can recover from brain surgery, but a stroke could end his career. And his son didn’t seem upset that he missed the play. Of course it wasn’t Oremwood’s fault, but kids can still take it personally. 
 

So, I guess that’s the last we’ll see of Raphael and Sunny. Off to a new life which was the best possible outcome, I suppose, certainly better than he deserved.

i was certain that the uncertain rug buyer was going to turn out to be an undercover cop and bust young Will and Raphael, but instead Raphael commits his first murder, to which Will was a witness, if not an accessory. I wonder how he made the jump from budding criminal to law enforcement. The young actors were spot on. 
 

 

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agathapenny

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I loved that so much.

The General Hospital title sequence was complete genius. As someone who watched GH during that period (I loved soaps back in the day) I loved the GH banter at the funeral home, and the name of the episode was so apropos. I could absolutely see everything that happened here happening at a Quartermaine funeral, lol.

I know that Raphael was a bad guy, who did many bad things, but I still liked him? The actor was incredibly charismatic and had a great rapport with Will. The younger versions of the characters were spot on. Guess we know where Will's wardrobe choices came from. Interesting that Will was willing to stick with Raphael after he killed the bad guy who was about to kill Will. I had gotten the impression that Will had turned on young Raphael in some way, but it was actually just that Raphael has always thought that Will basically forced his hand into serious criminal activity. I was glad that Raphael and Sunny went into witness protection.

The Ormewood plot is interesting. I wonder where they're going with it. The scene with his kids at the end was so bittersweet. The actor really nailed it.

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DEL901

DEL901

Ormwood started as basically furniture, so Angie could have a partner, but the writers and actor have really turned into a key part of the team… they had better not kill him off.

Loved the GH references… I laughed when I realized the episode title was referring to Lila.  Poor confused funeral home lady.  

And sweet Betty was busy comforting all the sad humans in this episode.

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peachmangosteen

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I despise the Ormewood plot. Why are they so determined to have misery upon misery this season?

Sucks too because it really put a damper on what was otherwise such a fantastic episode. The GH references were everything. The actors playing young Will and Rafael were seriously fantastic.

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bunnyface

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At first I thought Sunny was going into witsec and her dad in prison.  I was surprised to see they both were going.  I have a hard time thinking Rafael will do well in witness protection.  Tall, low-key flamboyant, black male with long braids and likes flashy jewelry.  I don't see him interested or even capable of toning it down much.  But if he goes where he blends in like that, he'll be known.  He always likes to think he's the smartest one in the room, doesn't like listening to others.  I like Rafael and I hope he does well, but I don't see it turning out well.

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milkyaqua

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I liked the episode and am glad that things with Raphael didn't turn out the way I'd initially thought they would.  Him and Sunny going into witness protection wasn't on my bingo card but I guess he sold enough people out to make it worth it.

I will also sort of miss him as he and Will did have a quasi-close relationship and it was good to see the beginning of how they met and where they both venture off into different lives and the young actors were good.

Loved seeing Betty comforting all the sad folks.  And the opening credits and title card were excellent.

It was nice seeing Dr. Seth in his element.  I'm also wondering why they'd go in this direction with Ormewood.  I hope it turns out well for him and liked the scene at the end with his kids and son reenacting his part.  Hmm, I suppose there's no chance for a noneventful season finale.

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Jodithgrace

Jodithgrace

What did they do with Grandma?

A brain tumor is bad, but if it’s not malignant, it’s better than what I thought when he first collapsed, which was a stroke. He can recover from brain surgery, but a stroke could end his career. And his son didn’t seem upset that he missed the play. Of course it wasn’t Oremwood’s fault, but kids can still take it personally. 
 

So, I guess that’s the last we’ll see of Raphael and Sunny. Off to a new life which was the best possible outcome, I suppose, certainly better than he deserved.

i was certain that the uncertain rug buyer was going to turn out to be an undercover cop and bust young Will and Raphael, but instead Raphael commits his first murder, to which Will was a witness, if not an accessory. I wonder how he made the jump from budding criminal to law enforcement. The young actors were spot on. 
 

 

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fishcakes

fishcakes

Put Betty on GH and I will start watching again. The opening credits replaced Sonny with Will and Luke with Betty. That is a 100% improvement in the show right there.

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I still have questions about the Rafael/Will relationship, primarily what happened after the shooting. Did Rafael go to prison? We know that Will continued to get into trouble for a while because that's how Amanda found him again, but where was Rafael during that time? And when did they stop being friends. I guess this is a good outcome for Rafael, but he was a great addition to the cast and I would have liked to see him stick around. I teared up a little when he came to Will to tell him about grandma and ask for his help, saying they were brothers once.

My main problem with the Ormewood story is that I can already tell they're going to treat it superficially. He went from fine to BRAIN TUMOR in less than 20 minutes. At least have him be blind in one eye for a couple of weeks before you jump right to tumor. We know they won't kill him, so of course it will be benign, they'll take it out, he'll do rehab for maybe one episode and that will be it. Although that is very soapy, come to think of it. GH viewers remember when Alexis had lung cancer, coughed for a month or two, and then it was never mentioned again lol.

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EtheltoTillie

EtheltoTillie

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1 hour ago, Jodithgrace said:

What did they do with Grandma?

 

Is it possible Grandma is still alive and also going into witness protection?  At the end, Will asked if Raphael had planned the whole thing.  Is that part of it?  Was it a really long game?   I'm not sure.  I know it's a little crazy.

I hope Ormewood is okay!

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anniebird

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7 hours ago, DEL901 said:

Ormwood started as basically furniture, so Angie could have a partner, but the writers and actor have really turned into a key part of the team… they had better not kill him off.

Loved the GH references… I laughed when I realized the episode title was referring to Lila.  Poor confused funeral home lady.  

And sweet Betty was busy comforting all the sad humans in this episode.

He wasn't just furniture - he was really bad furniture. Remember how awful he was, season 1, episode 1? He's had quite the redemption arc (which is fine with me - I prefer to like the characters on a show I love as much as this one.)

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tennisgurl

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Despite his whole "career criminal" thing, I really do like Rafael and I think that his relationship with Will is really interesting, especially now that we have their backstory, and I think that this was his best possible ending. I had guessed that Will would have to arrest him or he would end up getting shot and dying, which would be yet another hard thing for Will to deal with, so him and Sunny going into witness protection and Will ending things on a good note with him makes me smile. 

Those flashbacks were really good, I had assumed that they knew each other in foster care but Rafael and his grandma giving a very young Will a home makes a lot of sense. The actors playing their younger selves were great, I totally bought them as younger Will and Rafael right away, and it was interesting to see how their paths diverged. 

If I saw right, the coffin with the money in it was brought in during the funeral later, which Will clocked, grandma was in her casket just like we saw. 

I was sure that Ormewood was just exhausted and not taking care of himself, even after Angie brought him him drinking to much, but I did not see a tumor coming. I have come to really like Ormewood, he's come so far from the first season, and I really hope that he's alright, these people have had way too much emotional upheaval and trauma lately. The always handsome and wonderful Dr. Seth made it sound like the tumor can be removed and should be alright, but I'm still concerned, even if his health is alright this could end his career. 

Betty is the best emotional support dog ever. That was also the best Will Trent title drop yet.

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DearEvette

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The General Hospital credits/Title card with Will and Betty was fantastic.  As were all the call backs to General Hospital starting with the Gen X sacred black family tradition of watching "the stories" with your grandma.  Will and Raphael giving plot details on Lila Quartermain was hysterical.

Oh my yes,,the casting for younger Will and Raphael was fantastic.  Both actors got the voice inflections and the personalities dead on.   

Count me in on someone who will miss Raphael.  Yeah, he was an actual criminal, but he was a good personality and I liked his relationship with Will.  There was a wit to him.  And Betty comforted him!  And his funeral suit was fire!  And don’t for a minute believe he is completely broke.  

Speaking of Betty she got lots of lap time to comfort the mourners. 

I knew something was up with Ormewood but a tumor?  Well shit.  I am sure they are not going to kill off our new favorite himbo but I don’t want to watch him go through this.  Why couldn’t we have one character who was reserved for more light stuff?  Everyone else has all sorts of personal trauma why couldn’t he be our cool pool of unstress?

I like Amanda being salty with everyone as she was the last to know about Jeremy.

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howiveaddict

howiveaddict

6 hours ago, fishcakes said:

Put Betty on GH and I will start watching again. The opening credits replaced Sonny with Will and Luke with Betty. That is a 100% improvement in the show right there.

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My main problem with the Ormewood story is that I can already tell they're going to treat it superficially. He went from fine to BRAIN TUMOR in less than 20 minutes. At least have him be blind in one eye for a couple of weeks before you jump right to tumor. We know they won't kill him, so of course it will be benign, they'll take it out, he'll do rehab for maybe one episode and that will be it. Although that is very soapy, come to think of it. 

 But people do get diagnosed with brain tumors that quickly. I know someone who recently ran his tractor driving into the barn and his gait was a little off.  His wife took him to doctor who sent him to get scanned and it was brain cancer.  He was having gradual symptons, like Ormewood for a short while before he got checked out.

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DEL901

DEL901

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3 hours ago, howiveaddict said:

 But people do get diagnosed with brain tumors that quickly. I know someone who recently ran his tractor driving into the barn and his gait was a little off.  His wife took him to doctor who sent him to get scanned and it was brain cancer.  He was having gradual symptons, like Ormewood for a short while before he got checked out.

They also mentioned shrapnel in his brain…that could have impacted his symptoms.

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peeayebee

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Great episode. Like everyone else, I was very impressed with the casting of young Will and Raphael. I particularly noticed how young Will sounded exactly like current Will.

It was nice to find out what had happened betw the two of them years ago. It bonded them and made Will feel he owed him big time.

I, too, thought the rug buyer was an undercover cop. Glad it didn't go that way.

The GH stuff was great. The title sequence was perfect.

Sorry about Ormewood. I first thought he needed glasses, but that seemed not serious enuf for his symptoms.

When Raphael was first introduced, I really liked him. Then seeing how he treated Jeremy made me dislike him. But this ep? I'm back to liking him. I thought he'd get killed. Glad he's going off somewhere with Sunny to be safe, though I can't imagine how he's going to be content.

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sharifa70

sharifa70

On 4/16/2025 at 5:55 AM, cardigirl said:

Not Ormewood!  Nooooo! Loved the scene at the end with his son acting out the part for him.  ❤️

I loved that scene but especially loved the twist that Ormewood missing the play didn’t result in a sulk-tantrum guilt trip from the son.

This season has really been Jake McLaughlin’s chance to shine as Ormewood develops more and more into a person rather than a prop for the other actors to talk around. I’m so happy the writers seem to have unlocked the character!

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nilyank

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1 hour ago, bunnyface said:

I was even less concerned.  "That man needs glasses."  My whole thought process.  

I did too until he walked into Angie.

Loved all the GH stuff although Lila never become best friends with her grandson after he got full amnesia. It was really nice that they used Leslie Charleson from the opening credits since the actress had died a few months ago.

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transitfan

transitfan

The GH references were bittersweet for me, as my late mother was a big GH fan back in the day.  I didn't watch, but sometimes I happened to be in the room, so I was familiar with the opening credits.  Some of you probably know that the building that "played" General Hospital in the credits was actually Los Angeles County/USC Medical Center.  I worked for over 20 years at the USC Bookstore (main campus) and on several occasions went over to the Health Sciences (as it was called) campus bookstore.

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Clanstarling

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On 4/16/2025 at 3:26 AM, DEL901 said:

Ormwood started as basically furniture, so Angie could have a partner, but the writers and actor have really turned into a key part of the team… they had better not kill him off.

I've very much appreciated his arc. Couldn't stand him in the beginning. 

On 4/16/2025 at 6:28 AM, bunnyface said:

At first I thought Sunny was going into witsec and her dad in prison.  I was surprised to see they both were going.  I have a hard time thinking Rafael will do well in witness protection.  Tall, low-key flamboyant, black male with long braids and likes flashy jewelry.  I don't see him interested or even capable of toning it down much.  But if he goes where he blends in like that, he'll be known.  He always likes to think he's the smartest one in the room, doesn't like listening to others.  I like Rafael and I hope he does well, but I don't see it turning out well.

Yeah, I had my doubts that he could lay low somewhere given his fashion choices. On the other hand, he's smart enough to tone it down. 

On 4/16/2025 at 10:38 AM, EtheltoTillie said:

Is it possible Grandma is still alive and also going into witness protection?  At the end, Will asked if Raphael had planned the whole thing.  Is that part of it?  Was it a really long game?   I'm not sure.  I know it's a little crazy.

I hope Ormewood is okay!

I kind of had that thought - that she wasn't actually dead. But that would have been very hard for Raphael to conceal after the money was transferred - I mean, she'd have to stay hidden - and away from his daughter - forever.

On 4/16/2025 at 10:47 AM, EtheltoTillie said:

Oh, I see someone else posted that Grandma was in the coffin.  Did we see her body? (Open casket?)  If so, then my theory is wrong.

Nope, it wasn't an open casket funeral. 

I love how the writers deal with complicated characters like Raphael, and even Ormwood. They really give life to them. 

And as everyone else has mentioned - that was exceptional casting (and acting) for the younger versions. I don't believe I've ever seen anything that well done before. 

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Orbert

Orbert

I too grew up with General Hospital, so that was fun.  Will and Betty in the opening credits cracked me up.

As many have said, the younger Will and Rafael were amazing, spot on.  And I was wondering how they'd end the Rafael story arc.  I'd assumed either he gets killed or goes to prison, but this is better and was unexpected.  Their relationship is/was complex and terrific.  I loved how Rafael came to Will when Grandma died, even though he knew they weren't really cool at the time, because he had no one else to turn to.  I had mixed feelings about Will taking advantage of Rafael being distracted by the funeral arrangements; it was his opportunity to move on Rafael's operation.  But Rafael helped us not feel too bad about it by "doing crime" right in front of Will.  The same way Will could compartmentalize his feelings for Angie and arrest her, he was able to ignore his personal feelings for Rafael and Grandma and arrest Rafael, which turned out to be for his own good anyway, since they were coming to kill him, again making things a bit easier for us to take.  Also, this ends the "Jeremy as reluctant CI" story, which is fine with me.

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Orbert

Orbert

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Something that occurred to me later.  With Rafael going into witness protection, this is probably meant to be his last appearance on the show.  You can't be in witness protection and come back to visit your friends back in your hometown.

So we finally got the backstory on Rafael, the origin of "You owe me!" and their complex relationship, in the same episode that the character is written off.  That seems to happen a lot on TV, and it sucks.  You finally get the rest of the story, then that character is gone, instead of us getting to see more of them now that we fully understand the backstory. 

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AheadofStraight

AheadofStraight

On 4/16/2025 at 12:18 AM, agathapenny said:

I loved that so much.

The General Hospital title sequence was complete genius. As someone who watched GH during that period (I loved soaps back in the day) I loved the GH banter at the funeral home, and the name of the episode was so apropos. I could absolutely see everything that happened here happening at a Quartermaine funeral, lol.

 

Those were my fave GH credits and theme - I loved it! I haven't watched the show in ages but that truly brought me joy. The banter about Pickle Lila and the GH storylines was also stellar!!!

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