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S48.E06: Doing the Damn Thing


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To quote Courtney Yates "Jean-Roberte Sai, she's like the Susan Lucci of tribal council, like her name's always up there, but she never quite goes home."  Count me in as learning to like the chaos Sai sows.  She might be my hope for a bitter exit this season.  They made it obvious Charity was going or at the very least going to be up for votes because how she suddenly came out of nowhere.  Much like Sai, she isn't as good at this game like she thought.  

I think it was right to get rid of a Civa member, even if some of the Civas were willing to sacrifice Charity.

Hoping the meat-shield alliance that hates the very elements that make up Survivor dissolves quickly, but my feeling is Shauhin, Kyle and Kamilla won't be onboard forever.  Especially because Kyle and Kamilla are already good at lying.  Assuming no one has sniffed out their duo alliance yet, this might be like Danielle and Jason from Big Brother 3.  

Also where has Star been hiding?  I was already a fan but now I'm an even bigger one.  

This season started out meh but is starting to get interesting!

 

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Is Sai working with absolutely nobody?  She voted for Cedric?  Not even Charity?

I don’t mind Survivor using the same types of challenges over and over (there’s only so many different things they can do) but please get rid of the “crawl through our special Survivor mud” challenges. They’re really not funny anymore.

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Must have been interns doing the editing tonight...the only thing missing was a flashing neon sign over Charity's head that said TONIGHT'S BOOT.

For a brief moment I was going to give Sai credit for seemingly realizing she would come off as a massive hypocrite when she immediately clammed up after squealing about the merge feast but then she reverts later to going on and on about the food. So yep, she is a card carrying  hypocrite extraordinaire.

Star's jankie vote for Cedric after consoling him is head scratcher.

Speaking of Cedric, he's extremely lucky there were bigger fish to fry as I honestly was certain his goose was cooked after turning in one of the most dismal performances in a challenge since the time scout master's Lil's boat sank with her sitting in it as it went down. Is he good at.... anything?

I'm glad Star didn't ask for the idol back...that would be so crass (granted she should not have given it away to begin with but...)

Naked Mary yum-but don't blame me she's the one who put the thought into my head LOL.

Lastly watching Chrissy at tribal left me thinking she's little more than a glorified extra in a crowd scene in any movie. Why is she there? What was interesting about her she beat out 1000 other candidates? The answer remains elusive.

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1 minute ago, Samwise979 said:

@North of Eden Sai voted for Cedric, not Star. Probably for no other reason than to be vindictive. 

it would have been hilarious if Sai ended up being voted out solely because she didn’t vote for Charity. It was close! 

Thanks! It went by so quick I thought it was Star making the vote!

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1 hour ago, North of Eden said:

Lastly watching Chrissy at tribal left me thinking she's little more than a glorified extra in a crowd scene in any movie. Why is she there? What was interesting about her she beat out 1000 other candidates? The answer remains elusive.

Haha at least she was able to climb a rope ladder!  Unfortunately Cedric's performance along with the merge has turned him from a loser you need to dump into a goat no one will care about getting rid of.  (Then at FTC he can pull out his "everyone wants to tell me their secrets!" card 😂)

Charity's big mistake was talking to Star about trying to get the idol back.

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I see the show finally got it right where everyone is eligible to be voted for instead of the losing group of 6 or whatever. Echo the "earn the merge" nonsense needs to end. When all groups converge on one beach, that looks like a merge to me.

Sai is still unlikable. That won't change. This is someone who you take to the end, because she will get zero votes at FTC.

Didn't know much about Charity, just that her and Mitch were aligned.

Also, glad that Mary is still in the game.

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Count me in as a Star fan, she has a lovely  personality. We're  just getting  to know her.

Sai, when she was talking about all the food she ate, I felt so bad for the others. Here's  the thing  I've noticed  about Sai, at TC, she seems  very different,  and she knows this game. I guess Joe or Eva will have to go soon, everyone  knows Joe looks out for her.

I don't  mind the mud, it makes other tasks after it, even harder, I loved seeing  Mary go through  it on her back.  Star cheering Cedrek  up, was a nice  moment. 

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Meh episode. I'm amused Sai is still in the game. I keep thinking that if she goes out early, Justin would go after Cedrek with the pizza shoveling device. In order for Cedrek's choice to mean something, Sai has to at least make the jury. Also, she did swipe the advantage like a dang ninja. Maybe she wouldn't have gotten it if Production had elected to hide it.

Still too many people to keep track of. Doesn't help when they're all muddied and covered in wood chips.

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3 hours ago, KeithJ said:

Is Sai working with absolutely nobody?  She voted for Cedric?  Not even Charity?

I don’t mind Survivor using the same types of challenges over and over (there’s only so many different things they can do) but please get rid of the “crawl through our special Survivor mud” challenges. They’re really not funny anymore.

 But this time the mud was slightly green!  (I’ve just watched Australia Survivor 6 & part of 7 and they’ve had some interesting challenges. Some, I think would kill an American or at least rip an arm off.) 

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For me, this season has just become “I can’t wait for the week that Sai gets voted off.”  I do like Mary, Joe, & Mitch. Everyone else is meh and I can’t stand Sai. 

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1 hour ago, 30 Helens said:

I felt bad for Star tonight. Granted, giving away an idol is not the smartest move. But to have that gift recipient (Eva) not even include you in their post-merge alliance plans? So very cold. 

This is what I fear will be Star’s downfall.  I don’t think she realized just how on the outside she was with her tribe to begin with but clearly she knew her and Eva didn’t see eye to eye.  Now it seems like she thinks they have some special bond and are working together when they really aren’t. 

She seems to have a big heart and I think that’s going to do her in is not being able to read the room when it counts.  Charity clearly thought she had a good read on her standing and was blindsided.  Sai was there for a while too, although she seems to finally be getting the hang of not being in the know and seeing her name written down every TC.  

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I forgot to mention: If you see an advantage in the weeds, run towards it. In the most direct path possible. Don’t look for another more circular path that will allow you to bypass some trees or whatever. So dumb.

I was also surprised to see so much milk dissing. I know people don’t drink as much milk as they used to, but is milk consumption so uncommon that it’s reached the point of weirdness? I never drank a gallon a day, but in my younger days I always drank milk with meals. Now I drink wine with meals because come on. But I would support anyone who still chooses the moo juice. 

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Sai gave a whole filibuster on mindfulness during the last Reward Challenge she missed out on but proceeded to gloat about nachos and mozzarella sticks to hungry people this week. 

Mad at Ced when he's the only reason her ass has survived this long.  She will never garner a single million dollar vote, even if they drag her to the end as a goat.

That Meat Shield alliance really rubbed me the wrong way.  Talking about making sure "a deserving winner" gets the million.  If you've Outwitted, Outplayed and Outlasted, you're deserving. 

Poor Ced.  I felt so badly for him but damn if Star didn't make me love her with her pep talk.  Pick your head up, Ceddy!

Sorry to see Charity go when she seemed to be the only one clocking Eva's bs. 

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That is a really pretty immunity necklace. I got lost in the who voted for who (apart from Sai's signature move of voting for Cedrek out of spite - would have been such fun if that was the one vote needed to keep her from leaving instead of Charity) from which alliance, but the noble integrity faction seemed a bit split...

Star is a sweetheart. I think she might win some individual immunties. I really hope she teams up with Mary and they find a way to go far.

"Why does everything look like garlic?" should have been the title quote.

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3 hours ago, SuburbanHangSuite said:

That Meat Shield alliance really rubbed me the wrong way.  Talking about making sure "a deserving winner" gets the million.  If you've Outwitted, Outplayed and Outlasted, you're deserving. 

Right!  What in the world makes a person with muscles more deserving than anyone else? I've tried to give David the benefit of the doubt from the first, but I gave up last night.  I don't like him.  He brags about his muscles almost every time he opens his mouth and clearly feels superior about them and assumes we're all in awe of arms that look like they've had boxes implanted under the skin.

I didn't like Shauhin much either. Who puts age limits on food, saying that milk was a seven year old's drink? You know who would say that Shauhin? An eight year-old.

It would serve the California Girls right if Cedrek won.

FYI: One gallon of chocolate milk contains 3,320 calories and 382 grams of sugar.

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I fell in love with Star this episode.  She has been on the back burner until now which makes me wonder if she goes far.  What a wonderful human-please don't disappoint me in future episodes...

I so would have voted Sai out-one who lectures someone else about how to respond to a reward and then does the exact same thing herself back at camp while half of the merged tribe didn't get to eat anything.  Just be generic-oh, there was a lot of food, but because of all of the mud everywhere it didn't really look or taste like anything.

Charity's ouster was a big 'meh.'  However, I am concerned for Mitch as I like him and he is such a challenge monster why didn't the 'strength' alliance bring him in?  Oh, yeah, because he's good at puzzles.  

 

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welcome Star, what a great episode. Sai please exit soon. She is exhausting. The good guy, meat shield alliance...whatever you want to call it, I can see getting rid of connivers and schemers but puzzles? I would think you would want at least one person good at puzzles in your alliance seeing as most challenges lately have been puzzles and janky carnival games. maybe this year will be different? Because Joe...

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Star has really upped her stock. I really like her now. It's the first time I've laughed at someone going to vote when she had to recover the pen.

I was glad Sai made it through--she's more interesting tv than Charity. She is such an odd player.

I was glad to have the whole group voting and no random groups of 6; I hope they drop that concept going forward. Like others, I hate all the mud

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8 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

 

I was also surprised to see so much milk dissing. I know people don’t drink as much milk as they used to, but is milk consumption so uncommon that it’s reached the point of weirdness? I never drank a gallon a day, but in my younger days I always drank milk with meals. Now I drink wine with meals because come on. But I would support anyone who still chooses the moo juice. 

These days everyone where I live is drinking plant-based milk, not moo juice.  People who drink cow milk, especially chocolate milk, are athletes who drink it during recovery.

I haven't had a glass of milk since high school.

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8 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

was also surprised to see so much milk dissing. I know people don’t drink as much milk as they used to, but is milk consumption so uncommon that it’s reached the point of weirdness?

When one of them said he "only" drinks milk and never water, my response was "good luck with your kidney stones."

I think everyone has already covered (heh) the issue with the mud. Jeff would yell things about Orange getting ahead or Purple doing something and I'd be like "Who's Orange? Everyone is grey." It just seems counter-intuitive to keep covering everyone in head to toe mud every challenge because we can't tell who is who. I don't know if the show thinks it's funny or if they're just so damn lazy they haven't come up with anything new in years.

Also, ditto on mud-covered people shoveling food into their mouths with their filthy hands. Yuck. (I think what they're going for is making it look like they're primeval, or tribal, or feral or something.)

Editing made it obvious Charity was going home about 15 minutes into this episode. Maybe if they hadn't ignored her completely for the first five episodes it wouldn't have been so jarring to suddenly see so much of her narration and talking heads.

And speaking of the bleeding obvious - the first name pulled out of the urn is NEVER, NEVER the person going home. NEVER. So when Sai's name came out first? I knew it was Charity going home. Hey, show, you might want to try switching it up once in awhile rather than giving up the game right out of the gate.

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2 minutes ago, Haleth said:

I missed the show because of tornadoes but can’t find enough interest to watch on P+.  I don’t know who Cassidy Charity is so see you next week!

Glad to see you here and hope everyone is safe in your house and area!!

I hear you -- I was watching Tribal and still had no idea who Charity was.  Not until this group here filled me in.  It's what we do!

 

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"Let's take out an easy target this time," is so stupid. No, you have enough people for numbers and the big players are not worried yet. Take them out now instead of voting out numbers you'll need later.

David thinks he's playing American Gladiators, I guess. Him pointing to his head and saying, "this is a muscle too," was gloriously moronic.

After the season's over, Joe should get together with S46's Kenzie and they can talk about how they're the most selfless people who've ever played Survivor. It will end with a round of, "I am," "No, I AM" and eventually they'll be asked to leave the Starbucks.

My hope for an underdog alliance of Mary, Star, Mitch, Charity, and maybe Cedrek is clearly never going to happen, but I'll settle for Kyle and Kamilla covertly destroying the meathead alliance.

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42 minutes ago, fishcakes said:

"Let's take out an easy target this time," is so stupid. No, you have enough people for numbers and the big players are not worried yet. Take them out now instead of voting out numbers you'll need later.

I think the thinking behind this is that if you try targeting a big player, you get targeted for "playing too hard." If you do though, you better be 100% sure you have the votes for it and nobody is going to flip.

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6 hours ago, jsm1125 said:

Why wasn’t Mitch included in the “strong person” alliance? The others have seen him perform in challenges, correct? And I still don’t quite know why David doesn’t trust him. 

I'm guessing that the "strong person" alliance isn't just about being fit, but at least partially about fitting the jock/popular niche. Mitch is (from their perspective) too goofy looking and speech-impaired to earn a seat at the cool kids table.

Also, puzzles, blech! That involve thinking and thinking make brain hurt.

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15 hours ago, KeithJ said:

Is Sai working with absolutely nobody?  She voted for Cedric?  Not even Charity?

I don’t mind Survivor using the same types of challenges over and over (there’s only so many different things they can do) but please get rid of the “crawl through our special Survivor mud” challenges. They’re really not funny anymore.

I've never thought Survivor's challenges were suppose to be funny.  I'm sure going through the mud, manufactured or not, is exhausting and a challenge by itself!

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Just now, rr2911 said:

I've never thought Survivor's challenges were suppose to be funny.  I'm sure going through the mud, manufactured or not, is exhausting and a challenge by itself!

I guess I could have written that a little better, funny for the viewers.  At first it's like "haha, look, they're all covered in mud".  Now it's like "ugh, not the mud again".

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2 minutes ago, KeithJ said:

I think the thinking behind this is that if you try targeting a big player, you get targeted for "playing too hard." If you do though, you better be 100% sure you have the votes for it and nobody is going to flip.

Yes, as it was put in The Wire, "You come at the king, you best not miss." 

If someone had tried to arrange a blindside of (say) Eva or Joe now, word likely would have gotten back to them and the person fomenting it would basically be arranging their own boot.

As it was, Charity died of mostly self-inflicted wounds. Her trying to manipulate Star into repoing her idol for Eva alerted Star, and Eva, and the Meathead Alliance that Charity should become a target. If Charity had not been playing so hard (TM), probably Sai would have been going home. At least there would have been not much particular reason to focus on Charity. There would have probably been a drive to get rid of someone from Civa to prevent the possibility of a 6-person Civa bloc having a tight grip on power in the 12-person tribe. But it would be an open question of who (besides immune Kyle) that might be.  

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2 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Editing made it obvious Charity was going home about 15 minutes into this episode. Maybe if they hadn't ignored her completely for the first five episodes it wouldn't have been so jarring to suddenly see so much of her narration and talking heads.

Ignored her completely?  She was shown decently early on.  She made a duo with Mitch, and she had that contradictory moment with thinking that she controlled David (only for it to be revealed to the audience that he couldn't stand her and was targeting her).  She also had the moment that riled up Eva against her, too.

Ignored her completely, my ass.

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1 hour ago, rr2911 said:

I've never thought Survivor's challenges were suppose to be funny.  

I'll die on the hill that the only purpose of the "one castmember directs blindfolded castmembers around an obstacle course" challenge they have every season seemingly is the producers' hope that male castmembers will run their nuts into obstacles and the low comedy that involves. (I'll plead the Fifth as to whether that has extracted laughter from me).

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Smart to take Charity out first.  A member of the big numbers tribe left and a real snake type. 

Yes it would have been funny if Sai's vote for vengeance against her own protector had lead to her demise.  But Charity was the big shit stirrer.

Besides I'd guess most people watching want Sai out and she does crazy things like vote against said protector so she makes a perfect villain for this season.  Certainly more entertaining than Charity.

Points for the kindness of Star but man, Cedric (spelling dif but I can't remember it), can you do ANYTHING well on Survivor?  He was as useless as a sack of rocks in that challenge.

PS:  Loved Eva's comment in the voting both: "Why does everything look like garlic?"

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6 minutes ago, Skooma said:

Points for the kindness of Star but man, Cedric (spelling dif but I can't remember it), can you do ANYTHING well on Survivor?  He was as useless as a sack of rocks in that challenge.

I'm willing to give Cedrek (the Non-Entertainer) a break. He's 45 and has been operating on limited food for a while. I wouldn't expect him to have the same level of energy as to what seemed to be a pretty grueling physical challenge.

I do wonder if he's going to get underestimated and kept around because of his challenge ineptitude and if that's going to end up biting someone in the butt.

Right now, he doesn't seem to have much in the way of allies. Mary might be the only one wanting to work with him, and Star, who seems to be a lovely human being, might pity him but I don't know if she would want to stick her neck out for him. Sai is like the old song about the scorpion/snake who will sting someone who helped her just because that's her nature. Even if Cedrek doesn't realize Sai's handwriting on the vote or otherwise figure out that she voted for him, he probably should know she can't be trusted.

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17 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

Maybe she wouldn't have gotten it if Production had elected to hide it.

Perhaps the producers were worried that it would be like last season, where everyone looked for a minute-and-a-half and then gave up, except for the one woman who eventually found it.

14 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

I never drank a gallon a day, but in my younger days I always drank milk with meals.

I still drink milk with dinner a few days a week, as well as in cereal some mornings.  

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1 hour ago, Chicago Redshirt said:

I'm willing to give Cedrek (the Non-Entertainer) a break. He's 45 and has been operating on limited food for a while. I wouldn't expect him to have the same level of energy as to what seemed to be a pretty grueling physical challenge.

He was like this in the very first challenge!

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Welp! Thanks to these dumbasses, I'm going to have to sit through at least two more weeks of the pariah formerly known as 'Sai'. I'd like her to be known as 'Saionara', because I detest her with the fire of a thousand suns, but these maroons cannot seem to fight their way out of a paper bag, let alone easily vote out the most repugnant, rude player this season. So now, seeing how many folks voted for her, she will likely use her idol next tribal and that means we will have to endure next week AND the week after at the very least. Uch.

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23 hours ago, LadyChatts said:

To quote Courtney Yates "Jean-Roberte Sai, she's like the Susan Lucci of tribal council, like her name's always up there, but she never quite goes home."  Count me in as learning to like the chaos Sai sows.  She might be my hope for a bitter exit this season.  They made it obvious Charity was going or at the very least going to be up for votes because how she suddenly came out of nowhere.  Much like Sai, she isn't as good at this game like she thought.  

I think it was right to get rid of a Civa member, even if some of the Civas were willing to sacrifice Charity.

Hoping the meat-shield alliance that hates the very elements that make up Survivor dissolves quickly, but my feeling is Shauhin, Kyle and Kamilla won't be onboard forever.  Especially because Kyle and Kamilla are already good at lying.  Assuming no one has sniffed out their duo alliance yet, this might be like Danielle and Jason from Big Brother 3.  

Also where has Star been hiding?  I was already a fan but now I'm an even bigger one.  

This season started out meh but is starting to get interesting!

 

LOL, Jason and Danielle from BB, that is a deep cut 20+ years later (how is it 20+ years ago???)

I really liked Star in this episode too, she had a slow start in the game, but I related to her thinking that Eva deserved the idol for being the one to crack the clue and for being so lovely to Cedrec, even though he's driving me a bit nuts in the game. 

I need Sai's lucky streak to come to an end, I tried for so long to find the good in her but she is so unpleasant in every episode. I mean, she might Susan Lucci her way to the FTC, but she's gonna find out the Hantz way that getting there isn't the whole thing, you still gotta get some votes along the way. 

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Is Sai working with absolutely nobody?  She voted for Cedric?  Not even Charity?

Perhaps that's the secret to her survival, she's an easy vote down the road OR an easy goat to drag to the end. Though I suspect she's the Abi Maria type of goat where people just lose their patience before FTC and cut her loose simply for sanity's sake. 

Not at all surprising that she was completely oblivious to what an ass she'd been to Mary at the reward last week and thinking that they'd made amends. Self awareness, thy name is not Sai (or Say as the tribe and autocorrect both believe is the spelling). 

I like so many people on this season that I really don't know who I'm rooting for, that's a fun problem to have. 

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8 hours ago, Rodney said:

gnored her completely?  She was shown decently early on.  She made a duo with Mitch, and she had that contradictory moment with thinking that she controlled David (only for it to be revealed to the audience that he couldn't stand her and was targeting her).  She also had the moment that riled up Eva against her, too.

Ignored her completely, my ass.

OK, fair point. The show focused so much on Vulu that coverage of the other tribes seemed perfunctory. But even then we saw a lot more of Joe, Danny, Eva, and Star. Seriously, up until now I was like "Chrissy who? Charity who?"

I still maintain editing gave it away right off the bat this episode. It's gotten too predictable. If we'd suddenly gotten a shit ton of Chrissy talking heads I would have thought "Uh, oh. I guess she's a goner." 

8 hours ago, rr2911 said:

I've never thought Survivor's challenges were suppose to be funny.  I'm sure going through the mud, manufactured or not, is exhausting and a challenge by itself!

Well, sure. But there are lots of other ways to make challenges more difficult. I can think of a dozen ways off the top of my head that don't obscure who the hell everyone is. Apparently, though, the Survivor challenger designers cannot. Or . . . they seem to think it's HIGH- larious. 

Let's be real. The show hasn't come up with anything new for challenges in years. Crawl under a net through mud. Dig through the sand to find a bag of puzzle pieces. Untangle a rope to get a key. Climb up over a board. Walk across a balance beam. Throw balls into a basket. Throw sandbags at a target. Then, do a block puzzle. Obstacle course, puzzle. Obstacle course, puzzle. Obstacle course, puzzle. 

Enough already. It's just not interesting anymore. They seem to have settled on this and they're too lazy to come up with anything else.

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6 hours ago, Chicago Redshirt said:

I'm willing to give Cedrek (the Non-Entertainer) a break. He's 45 and has been operating on limited food for a while. I wouldn't expect him to have the same level of energy as to what seemed to be a pretty grueling physical challenge.

You know what Cedric needs? A couple of gallons of chocolate milk.

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