S18.E20: Reunion Part 3

[ZettaK]

The reunion concludes with Shannon and Alexis at odds over lawsuits and dating; emotions peak when Tamra and Shannon address their friendship; unseen footage of John's interview stirs reactions.

First aired on 11/21/2024.

[Stats Queen]

Emily won’t shut up and decided she was in charge of- I’m so annoyed.

Alexis is dumb, mean, dumb, obnoxious, stupid, annoying, delusional, unchristian, and incredibly stupid.

[FlyingEgret]

When Alexis retorted that she bought Johnny J. Feragamo shoes too I really wish Shannon had said she better keep her receipts...

And really, can this man not buy his own shoes???

[65mickey]

I used to like Emily but after this reunion I can't stand her. Why does she get to jump in and answer questions that were not directed to her?  I wish Andy would tell her to shut up. 

Edited November 22 by 65mickey

[Pondlass1]

Oh Shannon, don’t drink from a straw on TV.  Not a good look with that cheek filler.

Alexis really relishes being centre stage. If it wasn’t for this alleged loan she’d have nothing.

[Jst2Wld]

10 minutes ago, FlyingEgret said:

When Alexis retorted that she bought Johnny J. Feragamo shoes too

Wouldn't that mean, realistically, that Jim Bellino bought Johnny those Ferragamo shoes?

[65mickey]

Emily said that her dress was a medium and it was a little too big. Who is she kidding? It is so tight that she could barely walk.  

[twilightzone]

Gawd, can BRAVO Fire loudmouth, insufferable, awful Emily.  It's ridiculous she tried to bully Jen and Katie for being complicit with Alexis - yet not single out Tamra and Heather.  Of course, she failed to point out that Jen and Katie had been compassionate of Shannon, whereas Tamra and Heather had bad mouth her.

What a letdown of Shannon and Tamra hugging it out.  Tamra was never a friend.  I call b.s. that she has changed.  She is only in therapy because she needs the BRAVO paycheck.

Edited November 22 by twilightzone

[Cosmocrush]

1 hour ago, Pondlass1 said:

Alexis really relishes being centre stage. If it wasn’t for this alleged loan she’d have nothing.

And if she wasn't dating Johnny J. Douchebag I highly doubt she would have ever received an offer to come back on the show. 

[Marley]

That was boring.

Alexis is a dumbass. Her and stupid John need to go away.

I forgot Katie was there she can go away too.

I don’t understand what the bombshell was suppose to be at the end? John hearing the crash? Shannon & him having a physical fight? None of this seems shocking at all. Who cares. 

I’m sure whoever was in that last scene will be in the next season & the ones not there won’t. I don’t care really. Katie is boring & Jen seems nice I guess but is pretty boring too.

Edited November 22 by Marley

[dmeets]

Andy being Tamra’s PR rep at the end was annoying as hell. I suspected there would be an insta-reconciliation between Shannon and Tamra, and it really makes me wonder if the two of them plotted this falling out to get the audience to empathize with Shannon and keep them from turning on her for the DUI. Shannon didn’t seem the least bit upset that Heather and Tamra kept quiet for months that John admitted to hearing the crash. I’m a little surprised GIna was so happy to see their reconciliation: Shannon could easily drop her now that she has Tamra back and clearly she’s willing to go as low as she can when she’s anti-Gina.

I feel like this might be the beginning of Jen’s villain arc for next season (whether it lands as such with the audience remains to be seen). She was not happy to be thrown into the Alexis corner and have to witness the absolution of Tamra. Although I think everyone was being unfair expecting her to forgive Tamra since she refused to go scorched earth against Alexis. Why didn’t everyone demand Heather forgive Katie since Heather's still cool with Alexis?

Edited November 22 by dmeets

[bravofan27]

I think it's clear that Andy is invested in Tamara and Shannon. He pretty much made them "make up." I guess he knows Tamra can't afford real PR. Emily is noise. I didn't understand anything Alexis was saying. But her chain of command is God first, then her man, then her kids. So I think she's trying to be the Christian wife by defending Johnny. Her earth God. 

Interesting that Heather, Tamara, and Alexis all left Jenn's engagement party to go drink/eat together.

[dancingdreamer]

I didn't  understand  Alexis knowing  every teeny detail regarding  Johnny's finances. I think  she saw bits and pieces,  and put them together. Or,  If they did that much looking and piecing, in order  for her to be prepared,  they didn't have much time for anything  else, surely.

As for JJ , he's a Neanderthal, just looking  at that face, ugh! 

Tamra made nice, because  on social  media  she took a lot of heat for being  so damned nasty, she might of thought she was out of a job. They didn't  really address how nasty Tamra was to Jen, and I like Jen. Compared to NY, OC imho is pretty good.

[UsernameFatigue]

Once again we were treated to Johnny J's version of events, and he didn't come off any better than all the other times he has gone on camera. I did love Alexis's aside when JJ said that the only person he would show the videos to would be Shannon, and Alexis interjected that she would be in the room also. Of course she would. The only positive thing I can say about Johnny J and Alexis is that I am glad they found each other, and have saved anyone else from dating either one.

Hopefully that is the last we see of them. Although I fully expect JJ to drop Alexis at some point and look for another reality "star" to date. 

I am still waiting for someone, anyone, to ask Tamra why she was in so much pain all season. Andy won't, but I thought his co host Emily might. Tamra once again skates. Andy really does seem intent on keeping her around, no idea why. But she spent the entire season reaming on Shannon for her drinking, but no one held her to account for her own drinking, and vile actions (both drunk and sober). Will we find out next season why she was in pain? Not counting on it. Or any change in her behaviour. 

[oftentimes]

The last line of the show, Gina to Shannon: "I love you, but you have got to get better taste in men."  I almost fell of the couch laughing🤣

[Slakkie]

3 hours ago, oftentimes said:

The last line of the show, Gina to Shannon: "I love you, but you have got to get better taste in men."  I almost fell of the couch laughing🤣

I found this a perfect ending to a really good season. Shannon had a Sophie’s Choice, give Andy what he wanted (move forward with the TamRat) or double down and possibly get stuck with Alexis again. 
 

now that they can just “exist” next season can be Jen P vs Tamra. Andy did his damndest to rehab the Tamrat. I bet he is the one who told her to STFU or it would be a bloodbath. 
 

who would have thought Gina would be the person that was the rock and bigger person all around. The final episode Jen P and Katie were basically not in the picture. But all in all I thought the season was going to be bad and was surprised at how Shannon took responsibility.  
 

I also liked she CHOSE the non alcoholic drink. 

[Keywestclubkid]

these woman screeeeeching over John Jennsen let that sink in.. like why? it just makes them look stupid ..

[65mickey]

8 hours ago, Marley said:

I don’t understand what the bombshell was suppose to be at the end? John hearing the crash? Shannon & him having a physical fight? None of this seems shocking at all. Who cares. 

I felt the same way. Why were they all summoned to the meeting so that Tamara and Heather could  say that John told them that Shannon hit him? I agree none of this is shocking, not the drunken rages, the fighting or Shannon storming out. They acted like they were going to drop a big bombshell. 

[snarts]

Emily going after Jenn for being friendly with Alexis while nestled between two of her biggest enablers was rich. Oh, and STFU Emily, no one is tuning in to hear your opinion on everything. 

Andy can kick rocks too. Tamrat fakes contrition & tears for every reunion. Stop babying her.

Also didn't understand the big reveal the day after the reunion and why Jenn & Katie were excluded. Well, actually I do, because even though they were much kinder & supportive of Shannon during the season, Tamrat & Heather realized they were on the wrong side of public opinion & are now doing everything they can to appear supportive, while Emily kisses their asses in true 'pick me' style.  I'm just bummed that Shannon appears to have fallen for it...yet again. 

[JAYJAY1979]

This is basic Corporate 101.

Co existing with your enemy for the good of the company (Shannon and Tamra).

The ones that are speaking up get left in the cold (Jenn and Katie). 

The favored toxic employees are protected (Tamra and Heather). 

The follower that contributes nothing is rewarded with continued employment (Gina).

The tattletale is rewarded and not demoted/fired (Emily).

And a temp worker is bought back to rile feathers and be more a burden then a help (Alexis)

 

Edited November 22 by JAYJAY1979

[RealHousewife]

Did Emily remind anyone else of Lala Kent with her energy? 

I don’t disagree with Emily, but she was a lot, and I do think Jenn and Katie were good friends to Shannon. 

[Pi237]

Having worked in offices for decades with many women, That is too accurate. Forgot to quote JAYJAY on Corporate 101.

Also, site keeps crashing and losing my edit so I give up.

I’ll just say Tamra skates again with some therapy nonsense which she hasn’t even gone to yet! Lmao The woman must have mad dirt on Andy. 

Edited November 22 by Pi237

[dmeets]

13 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

The woman must have mad dirt on Andy. 

I can’t tell if it’s that or if she just gives Andy what he loves most in this world: women tearing each other apart

[Pi237]

I don’t see John and Alexis ever actually marrying.  She seems like she’d just say Yes to whatever he wanted, not much a challenge there. This is a man who stayed with Shannon Storms for years and years. A part of him must enjoy the chaos. Alexis is just really annoying. She has zero chill. That ‘yes, master’ stuff can only be fun for so long, right? 

[bravofan27]

Emily has got to go next season. I'm fine with all of them, even Alexis, but Emily is just toxic, unkind, sloppy, and her actual life is mundane. The only thing interesting is watching Shane pick on her and her bratty kids throw their mom under the bus to the babysitter. She also seems really on the brink of a real breakdown-- her energy is too frenetic, and she came off as manic to me, literally unable to not interject constantly and she also seemed really angry, disproportionately angry at Jenn and Alexis. Get a grip woman.

Tamra is coachable and can be fun. Shannon is a hoot, and Jenn and Katie are messy but harmless. Heather brings the analytical-- no judgmental- that's a better word-- perspective, Gina is the kooky Jersey girl with a hot ex husband she is pining away for, and Alexis can be who she has always been-- the easy target for everyone to pick on. 

Since really everyone but Emily likes Alexis (Shannon will come around, Tamra and Heather couldn't stand her in the past), I think Emily is done-zo. 

[RealHousewife]

26 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

I don’t see John and Alexis ever actually marrying.  She seems like she’d just say Yes to whatever he wanted, not much a challenge there. This is a man who stayed with Shannon Storms for years and years. A part of him must enjoy the chaos. Alexis is just really annoying. She has zero chill. That ‘yes, master’ stuff can only be fun for so long, right? 

I always found it interesting some men are attracted to chaos and drama, and some men like for women to just be quiet and look pretty. I find the former draining and the latter boring. 

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

I agree with @Pi237. The dating and engagement is all suspect to me honestly. Of course Johnny Jackhole gives her an engagement ring right before the reunion. Also, IF they were to get married, they have no plans to live together as JJ is never going to give up his waterfront home and its too small for Alexis and her kids to move into.  

[Cosmocrush]

Alexis didn't add one thing of her own to this season or especially her appearance on the reunion.  As far as I could tell she was simply there as Johnny J. Douchebag's mouth piece.  Her "We have this..." and "We have receipts" etc was gross.  I hope she's out next season and IF she is, then I'm betting her and her man will be done.  Maybe they can sue each other.

And while Emily's CONSTANT talking was annoying as hell, I honestly didn't mind her attacks on Alexis because she was saying everything I would have said about Alexis and her famewhore man.  

[dmeets]

Yeah Emily was annoying this reunion, but I loved her repeatedly dogging Tamra: “how can you be friends with this girl? She’s fucking awful.” Tamra only protested ever so slightly. I think she’ll be back to reaming out Jesus Jugs very soon. 

[RealHousewife]

Okay, I’m being generous here. I’ve seen other housewives be horrible year after year (Kelly Dodd, Brandi G, Kyle) and give various excuses for it. Do any of you think it’s possible Alexis wasn’t herself due to the loss of her mom? I haven’t seen grief turn someone rotten before, but I don’t remember her ever being so mean or vindictive on the show.  I remember thinking some of the others weren’t so nice to her and maybe they were jealous because she was one of the younger and prettier cast members. It’s crazy to me seeing her give Tamra a run for her money as the OC villain. 

[Cosmocrush]

2 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

Okay, I’m being generous here. I’ve seen other housewives be horrible year after year (Kelly Dodd, Brandi G, Kyle) and give various excuses for it. Do any of you think it’s possible Alexis wasn’t herself due to the loss of her mom? I haven’t seen grief turn someone rotten before, but I don’t remember her ever being so mean or vindictive on the show.  I remember thinking some of the others weren’t so nice to her and maybe they were jealous because she was one of the younger and prettier cast members. It’s crazy to me seeing her give Tamra a run for her money as the OC villain. 

That is generous!  But I would find that theory more plausible if she wasn't awful the last time she was on the show, or how she did the same "We"  thing when her then man, Jim Bellino was suing Shannon (and Tamra).  I don't remember her being so mean and vindictive (it's been a decade or so) eitherbut I remember not liking her. She CHOSE to come back this season with a singular mission: speak for her man and attack Shannon. 

[bosawks]

18 hours ago, FlyingEgret said:

And really, can this man not buy his own shoes???

Probably not since he has no sole 😜

[amarante]

There have been a whole bunch of loathsome men on the various shows

Brookes the cancer faker and the next one Vicki got involved with who moved his girlfriend into their Mexican condo as a surprise move

Slade was awful and a deadbeat but at least he never talked crap about Jo as a storyline

But JJ really seems to be beyond redemption in terms of his quest for reality show fame causing him to join forces with Jesus Jugs to humiliate his ex. 

[Pi237]

I actually hated all the crosstalk. Shannon constantly muttering to Gina while Gina was trying to listen to people talk. Emily non-stop running her mouth. Its bad enough when they all talk over each other or constantly interrupt each other. Please add a mute button, so you can actually hear a full sentence!  

[lasu]

I thought that final scene was the others bringing John's bomb to TV and diffusing it publicly. They brought what is (likely) the worst allegations John had, that Shannon became violent before her accident, and said, "maybe you did, but you've moved on." The basically pre-absolved her, and took away John and Alexis's weapon, while throwing John under the bus. I thought this was Heather and Tamra turning their backs on Alexis, and the core cast trying to show production there's no need for a shake up.

John played himself hard this season. I cannot believe he is so invested in what the audience of Bravo thinks of him, but it's hard to imagine him coming off worse than he did. 

[Mar]

[Mindthinkr]

17 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Andy really does seem intent on keeping her around, no idea why.

I’ll repeat this again: Tamrat has something on Andy that he does not want to be said about him. Likely she even has proof. I have some out there ideas, but whatever it is, it’s enough to keep her and give her that fat paycheck. 

[Emmeline]

18 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Once again we were treated to Johnny J's version of events, and he didn't come off any better than all the other times he has gone on camera. I did love Alexis's aside when JJ said that the only person he would show the videos to would be Shannon, and Alexis interjected that she would be in the room also. Of course she would. 

Alexis saying she would be in the room was unbelievable.  What business does she have being there.  To make Shannon more humiliated.

[UsernameFatigue]

3 hours ago, Mar said:

Alexis, Alexis, Alexis. How can we miss you if you won't go away? 

Alexis doesn't live in falsehoods or lies? We have seen Alexis caught in lies several times this season. Not to mention in her posting above. Not to belittle the loss of her mother, as when I lost my mother I certainly could not have filmed a reality show three months later. Or even several months later. Alexis claims her mother died three months prior to filming, and she signed on thankful that it brought her out of her bed and depression.

A quick search shows (since Alexis posted about that when it happened as well) that Alexis's mother died August 1st, 5 months before the show started filming in January of 2024. And didn't the show start filming before Alexis had actually signed on? In any case she had already gotten out of her bed in November as that is when she met Johnny J and started an insta relationship, complete with sex multiple times a day. 

At this point I can't imagine that anyone cares about her receipts, real or imagined. She really seems to think that God cares though, and that he has a different plan/platform for her to use. Surely God has better things to do than indulge Alexis in her ongoing vendetta? I know I do. 

I really think Alexis needs therapy every bit as much as Tammy Sue does. 

 

Edited November 23 by UsernameFatigue

[Pi237]

Nevermind 

Edited November 23 by Pi237

[njbchlover]

5 hours ago, lasu said:

I thought that final scene was the others bringing John's bomb to TV and diffusing it publicly. They brought what is (likely) the worst allegations John had, that Shannon became violent before her accident, and said, "maybe you did, but you've moved on." The basically pre-absolved her, and took away John and Alexis's weapon, while throwing John under the bus. I thought this was Heather and Tamra turning their backs on Alexis, and the core cast trying to show production there's no need for a shake up.

John played himself hard this season. I cannot believe he is so invested in what the audience of Bravo thinks of him, but it's hard to imagine him coming off worse than he did. 

Agreed - this was the core group's way of protecting their jobs, while giving Shannon an opportunity to get out in front of the supposed "bombshell" news that Alexis had to impart.

If what JJ said at dinner with Heather and Tamra was true (about Shannon punching him), and he was so disgusted with her, why didn't he notify the police that she assaulted him before driving her car into someone's porch/house/garden wall?  Why didn't he press charges for assault?  

But, I digress - to me, these women are helping Shannon immeasurably with that final scene, and also, Heather and Tamra cutting off their friendship with Alexis, if that actually ever developed beyond a work relationship.  

I really hope that Alexis will fade back into obscurity and take Johnny J with her - let them stroll into the sunset, hand in hand, to live happily ever after - OFF our TV screens!!!  

 

[bravofan27]

When Johnny J said that the only person that he will ever show the videos to is Shannon, and Alexis piped in, "And I'll be there!" to me made it seem like Alexis has NOT seen the videos and kind of knows they don't exist. Obviously, Johnny J told Alexis he had videos, who then told all the women, and now he has to create some story about it. 

We've all watched Shannon for 10 years going off the rails on TV. She lost her mind more than once because her addicted brain couldn't track what was really going on and she started screaming and running away. We watched her slam her car into a house and drive away. It's not like he's going to shatter some squeaky clean image no matter how crazy she is acting (although I am doubtful, he has any videos, because if he DID have cameras in his house, surely Shannon would know that beforehand, or is he some gross controlling abuser that records his guests). Also, isn't it illegal to video tape someone without their consent, especially audio? If he has a video of her hitting him, then he should take that to the cops. Not to social media. It's all bullshit IMO. 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/why-bad-looks-good/201908/living-on-video-when-can-you-record-guests-in-your-home?msockid=23123c713a0460011b802e2d3b1361d3

Edited November 23 by bravofan27

[QQQQ]

12 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Agreed - this was the core group's way of protecting their jobs, while giving Shannon an opportunity to get out in front of the supposed "bombshell" news that Alexis had to impart.

If what JJ said at dinner with Heather and Tamra was true (about Shannon punching him), and he was so disgusted with her, why didn't he notify the police that she assaulted him before driving her car into someone's porch/house/garden wall?  Why didn't he press charges for assault?  

But, I digress - to me, these women are helping Shannon immeasurably with that final scene, 

 

I'll preface this by saying I find both John and Alexis to be horrible human beings. But... if the situation were reversed and a group of househusbands were sitting around (basically) consoling John with "maybe you did hit Shannon but you were drinking..." viewers would go ballistic. And we know a high percent domestic violence victims don't file reports, so using that to question the situation is weak.

We don't know what happened but this final scene did not sit well with me.

[65mickey]

1 hour ago, QQQQ said:

if the situation were reversed and a group of househusbands were sitting around (basically) consoling John with "maybe you did hit Shannon but you were drinking..." viewers would go ballistic. 

Absolutely. They sat around telling Shannon that she had owned up to her mistakes and moved on. She has practically been turned into the victim.  There has been talk about why didn't John try to stop Shannon knowing how drunk she was. If what he said about Shannon hitting him is true and who knows at this point maybe he did try and she socked him. It's no one's fault what happened the night of the wreck but Shannon's. 

As far as Alexis and JJ they are horrible. She is too stupid to see that he has used her this entire season as his attack dog. I predict that she is one and done for the show and he will break the engagement as soon as she get the heave-ho. 

[FozzyBear]

1 hour ago, QQQQ said:

I'll preface this by saying I find both John and Alexis to be horrible human beings. But... if the situation were reversed and a group of househusbands were sitting around (basically) consoling John with "maybe you did hit Shannon but you were drinking..." viewers would go ballistic. And we know a high percent domestic violence victims don't file reports, so using that to question the situation is weak.

We don't know what happened but this final scene did not sit well with me.

I admit I haven’t watched the reunion because I can’t stomach it yet, but I’m finding this whole thing weird. I think John and Alexis are terrible and scum but I think the same of Shannon so take that for what it’s worth. It’s just…he broke up with her and she came to his house uninvited and drunk got into a fight maybe hit him definitely drive drunk and hit a house and Shannon ends up being the victim? How does this become a “he made her do it” situation about anything that happened that night?

[bravofan27]

25 minutes ago, FozzyBear said:

I admit I haven’t watched the reunion because I can’t stomach it yet, but I’m finding this whole thing weird. I think John and Alexis are terrible and scum but I think the same of Shannon so take that for what it’s worth. It’s just…he broke up with her and she came to his house uninvited and drunk got into a fight maybe hit him definitely drive drunk and hit a house and Shannon ends up being the victim? How does this become a “he made her do it” situation about anything that happened that night?

I don't think it's drinking and driving that people are feeling bad about. It's that Johnny J is using that night and being vague about what happened (no one knows if she really did hit him, he's trying to scare her and make her worried), and then he is saying that if she doesn't pay him the money she owes him he is going to release the videos or something like that. When Shannon said she would pay but wanted a nondisparagement clause, he refused. Shannon is being treated really unfairly by having both Alexis and Johnny J sue her and refuse to settle, and for some reason, her DUI night got conflated with the lawsuit, which they are totally different things. I think Shannon does owe Johnny the money, and she did get a DWI. That's not why people feel bad for her. It's how Johnny J and Alexis keep constantly bringing it up and refuse to settle it-- plus, that they waited until fliming so all this would be on TV. It's too much. 

[snarts]

4 hours ago, FozzyBear said:

It’s just…he broke up with her and she came to his house uninvited and drunk got into a fight maybe hit him definitely drive drunk and hit a house and Shannon ends up being the victim? How does this become a “he made her do it” situation about anything that happened that night?

Zero excuse for the drunk driving but they were on/off for nearly a year and even after the accident, he was staying at her house and sending her "I love you" texts. It's unfair to try to paint her as some violent stalker, especially when it's apparent he's not been honest with Alexis about the relationship timeline so I'm not about to trust his version of that evening's events. Their relationship was alcohol fueled and hella toxic. The truth lies somewhere in the middle.

Shannon hasn't made excuses for her mistake of driving under the influence. She fulfilled her legal and financial obligations and is seemingly trying to move on. Not sure what they or anyone else expects from her. Oh wait, a storyline/orange. 

Alexis is full on delusional. She acts like someone forced her to film and say the things she did. I'm literally incredulous over her social media post after the reunion. I mean, I knew she was dumb but ...her poor children.

Edited November 23 by snarts

[bravofan27]

1 hour ago, snarts said:

Alexis is full on delusional. She acts like someone forced her to film and say the things she did. I'm literally incredulous over her social media post after the reunion. I mean, I knew she was dumb but ...her poor children.

She is being faithful to her God. Uhg. Because, besides actual God, Johnny J is the next most virtuous important thing in her life. And Alexis loves to fight for her God, and imagines all these battles that are challenging her faith. She'd be wonderful in a cult. 

[Tiggertoo]

On 11/22/2024 at 8:30 PM, Mindthinkr said:

I’ll repeat this again: Tamrat has something on Andy that he does not want to be said about him. Likely she even has proof. I have some out there ideas, but whatever it is, it’s enough to keep her and give her that fat paycheck. 

You really think Tamra is literally blackmailing him?  I don’t believe that. I think he likes that she doesn’t hesitate to go low.  She does what needs to be done, in his opinion. 

[dosodog]

I find it interesting that the allegation of Shannon hitting John didn't make it to the show until the last 5 minutes. 

And that it came from Heather and Tamra. Alexis never brought it up and that surprises me...