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I also was wondering why he was around so much this season.  And clearly they are a bit embarrassed otherwise they would mention that he quit his job.  But I see why because I totally am judging them. 😂

chelsea was never my favorite, she was always a bit whiney, but seemed nice.  Now she’s coming across as a diva and full of herself, honestly.

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On 12/7/2019 at 7:58 PM, druzy said:

They have done a few podcasts lately. Here is one of the podcasts where he was asked what he did before Teen Mom.

This picture is the epitome of the Chelsea-Cole dynamic.  Coley always in the background, always in a perched cap.

He went to college and graduated, and then went on to have a career as a sign-puter-upper?

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I can't help but wonder if Cole likes Chelsea helpless and dependent. I get the vibe he didn't have much prior dating experience, so maybe he's the type who needs to be needed? (If that makes any sense). 

For example that scene where Chelsea was talking to Donna. She was completely in control of the situation, firm voice, handling it well and then Cole runs over to eavesdrop and feeds into her anxiety the second she hangs up. Instead of telling her she did great, he mimicks the whole "omg, I'm shaking, this is so traumatic" shtick. He tends to parrot Chelsea's facial expressions, words and emotions rather than say something authentic. If it works for them, great, but I find it to be a strange dynamic, and one that certainly doesn't help Chelsea's issues.

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1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

I can't help but wonder if Cole likes Chelsea helpless and dependent. I get the vibe he didn't have much prior dating experience, so maybe he's the type who needs to be needed? (If that makes any sense). 

For example that scene where Chelsea was talking to Donna. She was completely in control of the situation, firm voice, handling it well and then Cole runs over to eavesdrop and feeds into her anxiety the second she hangs up. Instead of telling her she did great, he mimicks the whole "omg, I'm shaking, this is so traumatic" shtick. He tends to parrot Chelsea's facial expressions, words and emotions rather than say something authentic. If it works for them, great, but I find it to be a strange dynamic, and one that certainly doesn't help Chelsea's issues.

I was really pumped for him to tell Donna off when she picked Aubree up. Instead he stood at the door.  🙄

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2 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

This picture is the epitome of the Chelsea-Cole dynamic.  Coley always in the background, always in a perched cap.

He went to college and graduated, and then went on to have a career as a sign-puter-upper?

I mean, I don't know that Cole was a "sign putter upper". I think he worked in the general traffic systems field, and probably higher up on the food chain. 

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2 hours ago, BitterApple said:

I can't help but wonder if Cole likes Chelsea helpless and dependent. I get the vibe he didn't have much prior dating experience, so maybe he's the type who needs to be needed? (If that makes any sense). 

For example that scene where Chelsea was talking to Donna. She was completely in control of the situation, firm voice, handling it well and then Cole runs over to eavesdrop and feeds into her anxiety the second she hangs up. Instead of telling her she did great, he mimicks the whole "omg, I'm shaking, this is so traumatic" shtick. He tends to parrot Chelsea's facial expressions, words and emotions rather than say something authentic. If it works for them, great, but I find it to be a strange dynamic, and one that certainly doesn't help Chelsea's issues.

I think it works for them the way Jenelle and David "worked," because they were both so insecure and controlling. I think Cole and Chelsea are codependent to the extreme, and he wants her to lean on him instead of therapy and meds to control her anxiety. It is so weird. If Chelsea broke her arm, would he insist on trying to put it in a cast himself? But then, he is visibly pissed off when her anxiety makes her act like a bitch. The dynamic is strange, and makes little rational sense. Now Cole can play her hero 24/7! I bet now he is a stay at home dad, while Chelsea lounges around and doesn't do much, kind of like Jenelle and David. 

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1 hour ago, Mkay said:

I was really pumped for him to tell Donna off when she picked Aubree up. Instead he stood at the door.  🙄

Yeah I knew he wasn't going to even step outside.  He barely squeaked out a "bye, Aubree."

Ok, so Cole was a Traffic Control Specialist - I looked it up and it says:

Responsibilities:

Setting temporary work zones on highways with cones, barrels and signs

Loading/Unloading work zone equipment

So still I ask, he went to college for this?

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9 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

Yeah I knew he wasn't going to even step outside.  He barely squeaked out a "bye, Aubree."

Ok, so Cole was a Traffic Control Specialist - I looked it up and it says:

Responsibilities:

Setting temporary work zones on highways with cones, barrels and signs

Loading/Unloading work zone equipment

So still I ask, he went to college for this?

If he graduated from college, why doesn’t he say where he graduated from?  Has anyone seen this info?  

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3 hours ago, Lemons said:

If he graduated from college, why doesn’t he say where he graduated from?  Has anyone seen this info?  

The gossip fan sites all boasted that he graduated from college when he first started dating her, but we have never heard it from him. Apparently he was on a soccer scholarship. I wonder if maybe he started but didn't finish? Also, I find it weird that he has never mentioned soccer, at all. 

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If Cole really wants to become a farmer, I'd rather watch him plan their farm, build the requisite buildings, plow, etc.    Think "Biggest Little Farm."     

I get that this type of story line would have limited interested in the TM world, though.

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13 minutes ago, NannyBails said:

If Cole really wants to become a farmer, I'd rather watch him plan their farm, build the requisite buildings, plow, etc.    Think "Biggest Little Farm."     

I get that this type of story line would have limited interested in the TM world, though.

I also wonder if they realize farming is hard work. My grandma grew up on a farm, and it gave her such a toughness and strong work ethic. I would say she was 100% the opposite of Chelsea! I would never want to farm because of how tough her childhood was. Of course Chelsea probably isn't planning on a huge farm to support her livelihood, but I bet it will be way harder than she thinks!

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5 minutes ago, Christina87 said:

I also wonder if they realize farming is hard work. My grandma grew up on a farm, and it gave her such a toughness and strong work ethic. I would say she was 100% the opposite of Chelsea! I would never want to farm because of how tough her childhood was. Of course Chelsea probably isn't planning on a huge farm to support her livelihood, but I bet it will be way harder than she thinks!

I have a large garden and I can co-sign on the hard work.  My garden could easily be a 30-hour-a-week job for me during certain times of the year.  AND I'm not taking care of farm animals. 

At least Chelsea and Cole have already taken care of chickens, so they might be used to the daily grind of taking care of farm animals.  And there's Pete, though I'm sure they treat him more like a pet than something they'd end up using/selling for food. 

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8 hours ago, Lemons said:

If he graduated from college, why doesn’t he say where he graduated from?  Has anyone seen this info?  

I have a hunch that he either didn't go, or dropped out.  I have never seen any info on his school or degree.

When I was researching his job, I saw an article that says that Chelsea was his first girlfriend.  He is a good-looking guy... so it has to be the VOICE that kept the ladies away. 

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3 minutes ago, MissFeatherbottom said:

This reminds me of David Beckham (married to Posh Spice from Spice Girls) I look at him and think how hot he is.......until he talks...

YES!  He has the helium voice of Beckham.  This may make me a jerk, but I think a little lady voice is a real turn-off.

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Randy raises (or used to) all kinds of animals. Not just your typical farm animals.  So I think Chelsea has been raised somewhat understanding farm life. 
 

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5 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

YES!  He has the helium voice of Beckham.  This may make me a jerk, but I think a little lady voice is a real turn-off.

I agree too! It wouldn't be a deal breaker but it definitely would make me think twice about dating a guy with a voice like that.(unless he prefers to text rather than talk on the phone 😂😅

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40 minutes ago, MissFeatherbottom said:

I agree too! It wouldn't be a deal breaker but it definitely would make me think twice about dating a guy with a voice like that.(unless he prefers to text rather than talk on the phone 😂😅

I would maybe look into a vocal chord surgery.  There has to be a way to fix it.  Or - hope he always has a cold?

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2 hours ago, MissFeatherbottom said:

I agree too! It wouldn't be a deal breaker but it definitely would make me think twice about dating a guy with a voice like that.(unless he prefers to text rather than talk on the phone 😂😅

Plus he’s goofy and awkward as fuck. 

The college things is so weird. He wasn’t out of,college for that long when they met. You would think he’d have something from those days, a sweatshirt or something.  This is a mystery for an Internet sleuth to solve. Anyone good at that?  

Ok, I think it might be University of Sioux Falls. Never heard of it but it’s Idaho, so. 

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I could see Cole coming from an upper middle class family that required college, but not being able to do the work and dropping out. This is the same path I think Chelsea would have gone down if she hadn't gotten pregnant. I'll never not think that her getting pregnant second semester of junior year wasn't a way to run from her future. I could see her doing badly on her SAT's, and realizing how lengthy college applications are, and deciding that a Randy-funded family with adam seemed more fun. 

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9 minutes ago, Christina87 said:

I could see Cole coming from an upper middle class family that required college, but not being able to do the work and dropping out. This is the same path I think Chelsea would have gone down if she hadn't gotten pregnant. I'll never not think that her getting pregnant second semester of junior year wasn't a way to run from her future. I could see her doing badly on her SAT's, and realizing how lengthy college applications are, and deciding that a Randy-funded family with adam seemed more fun. 

These girls. 🤦🏻‍♀️ I want to go to college, I’m older, work two PT jobs because of my migraines.  However the certificate I want to get is only a 8 week course three nights a week.  I don’t have the money to drop on that and since it’s a certificate they don’t offer financial aid. These girls have all these opportunities (and cash) and the tip of their fingers and here’s Cole quitting his state job and collecting 400,000 checks a season.  They have no clue what life is really like. Leah’s off in Hawaii walking circles and flying off to Costa Rica every month.  There’s Chelsea so anxious she has to have Cole by her side 24/7.  What a mess!

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Lol Cole and Chelsea’s version of him being a farmer is Cole getting up at 4am and being done his farm duties at prob 6am so he can still obsess over her all day and get most of the kids things done. 

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5 hours ago, Marley said:

Lol Cole and Chelsea’s version of him being a farmer is Cole getting up at 4am and being done his farm duties at prob 6am so he can still obsess over her all day and get most of the kids things done. 

I strongly suspect that Chelsea sleeps in on the regular. Remember when they posted some Instagram story or something about Chelsea hearing on the baby monitor that Cole was bribing the kids with sweets if they got out of bed to go to school with Aubree, or something like that? I'm thinking Cole does basically all the heavy lifting right now, but I'll also put money on him thinking it's fair, because he gets to bask in the presence of perfect amazing beautiful hot Smoke Show Chelsea. Like everyone else in her life, he thinks her existing is enough. 

Now it makes perfect sense why it took her a while to find Cole. There aren't many guys who would be willing to make everything all about her, and I doubt she would have found this one without the money and fame. 

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2 hours ago, Christina87 said:

Now it makes perfect sense why it took her a while to find Cole. There aren't many guys who would be willing to make everything all about her, and I doubt she would have found this one without the money and fame. 

I wouldn't say it took her a while to find Cole. She was like 20,21 when she met him?

I did think it was obnoxious when she said, "There's nothing about him that I don't like." Oh, i'm sure you can find something. But unlike all the other girls, I do think she's genuinely happy in her life, and why wouldn't she be? She has a great husband, healthy kids, makes hundreds of thousands a year for legitimately doing nothing, and parents who help out and i'm sure babysit all the time so they can go on their country concert date nights. She's the only one of the girls out of both teen mom og and teen mom 2 who seems happy and somewhat appreciative. I'd say Maci does too, but she often does the threatening to leave the show so , eh. 

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2 hours ago, Jaclyn88 said:

I wouldn't say it took her a while to find Cole. She was like 20,21 when she met him?

I did think it was obnoxious when she said, "There's nothing about him that I don't like." Oh, i'm sure you can find something. But unlike all the other girls, I do think she's genuinely happy in her life, and why wouldn't she be? She has a great husband, healthy kids, makes hundreds of thousands a year for legitimately doing nothing, and parents who help out and i'm sure babysit all the time so they can go on their country concert date nights. She's the only one of the girls out of both teen mom og and teen mom 2 who seems happy and somewhat appreciative. I'd say Maci does too, but she often does the threatening to leave the show so , eh. 

Oh, in the grand scheme of things, she did meet Cole very early in life. I hate when people say she waited soooooo long, when she really didn't. Wait til 32, Chelsea, and then we'll talk! However, she was looking for a relationship for a long time (several years) without finding one. That would be long at any age. Of course, the main reason for her lack of success was being hung up on adam, but I can't imagine it was easy to find what she was looking for: someone who would spoil her and always let her have her way. I also totally believe her friend megan for saying that Chelsea frequently slept with guys super early on, and then for really clingy and scared them off. I could see Chelsea doing that for years before she met Cole, who had never talked to a woman before, and whose mind was blown by sex. Those guys are rare, but they are out there!

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Honestly I find a lot of the conversation here humorous because I feel like a lot of what they say and do is overanalyzed a bit much.  But that said, they have definitely changed in the last year or so from what I liked about them before.  I didn't expect them to be all about selling things and putting their names on products, or Cole quitting his job, etc.  

But to stand up for them on one front.... I think them finding each other and falling in love, etc, happened in a way similar to many people.  There are many people that take a while to find the right one, and there are many people that don't date much before finding that person.  None of that is weird or speaks to anything in either of their character, in my opinion.  Just normal dating stuff.

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The idea of C&C really trying to make it full-time farming makes me actually LOL. If Chelsea hated Cole working a regular 9-5 she'll never be able to handle anything agriculture related. I'm a rancher's wife (so not the same as farming, I know) and:

  • we're lucky to sleep in until 6--even on weekends and holidays
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  • vacations, parties, dates, other plans will be cancelled because of sick animals, weather, you name it
  • I can't count the number of times my husband has left to do something "real quick" and found a bigger problem than anticipated and was gone for 6 hours with no cell phone. Chelsea would call the National Guard.

I really used to root for these two, but they're just a bad as the others.

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On 12/11/2019 at 5:40 AM, Jaclyn88 said:

 

I did think it was obnoxious when she said, "There's nothing about him that I don't like." Oh, i'm sure you can find something.

And then when Dr. Drew asked him the same question he gave her answer because he couldn't think up his own.

What works for them isn't necessarily what is healthy. And I don't think "no complaints" as an answer to what you love about someone is exactly high praise.

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Okay, I'm not trying to be judgmental. I know two small children is a lot of work. However, they're just getting around to decorating the Christmas tree NOW?! And Aubree is doing it?! She must be on her winter break, so that's the only reason it's getting done. Chelsea and Cole are both stay at home parents, so why on earth are they waiting until the 23rd to decorate the tree? Why even do it at all at this point? My guess is that Cole is legitimately busy with the kids and running errands, and Chelsea is either following them around with a camera, talking baby talk and "dying" about how cute everything is, or sitting on the couch. Girlfriend is lazy. Geeez, Chelsea. I wonder if she has done anything else yet...wrapped (or even bought!) presents, etc. I'm sure Cole had to do all that since she can't leave the house. 

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I don't know, I can't judge her for this one.  In some religious branches, the twelve days of Christmas start on Christmas Eve and continue into January, and you're not supposed to decorate a tree prior to the actual holiday; before that, it's the Advent season.  I don't know Chelsea's religious background, but she could have a family tradition like that, or Cole could.  

I know I was shocked when the pop-up tree vendors around here started taking their tents down early last week.  We never got a tree prior to Christmas Eve when I was growing up; I don't even see where you could buy one so late around here!

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My, my how things have changed. I used to kind of like this little family and now I really cannot stand them.

The *only* thing she has going for her is her D-list celebrity status. She's not smart. She's not hardworking. Sure, she loves her kids but so do most mothers. And I would argue, successfully, I think, that a thoughtful, considerate, respectful mother would not pimp her children out for their entire lives, including a non-existent relationship with the bio dad of one of them, in order to avoid working a regular job for her and her purse-holding husband.

And I 457% legit mean that I would rather go to work every day and have my life and materials things (which were hard-earned through educations, mostly) than what they have.

I also know way too many whose lives appear "perfect" on SM because they constantly tell us they're perfect and, in reality, the people in that house are miserable. I think there is likely a inverse relationship between the number of times we're told their lives are perfect and the true level of happiness. In fact, the people are miserable, in part, because of the fake life they're forced to always demonstrate.

 

 

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On 12/24/2019 at 7:19 PM, blue-apple said:

I don't know, I can't judge her for this one.  In some religious branches, the twelve days of Christmas start on Christmas Eve and continue into January, and you're not supposed to decorate a tree prior to the actual holiday; before that, it's the Advent season.  I don't know Chelsea's religious background, but she could have a family tradition like that, or Cole could.  

I know I was shocked when the pop-up tree vendors around here started taking their tents down early last week.  We never got a tree prior to Christmas Eve when I was growing up; I don't even see where you could buy one so late around here!

I would assume she doesn't have that background, because she says, "finally getting this decorated." That implies to me that she thinks she could have done it sooner, but who knows. With her track record of laziness, that's my first guess. 

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On 12/26/2019 at 3:35 PM, lilmarysunshine said:

My, my how things have changed. I used to kind of like this little family and now I really cannot stand them.

The *only* thing she has going for her is her D-list celebrity status. She's not smart. She's not hardworking. Sure, she loves her kids but so do most mothers. And I would argue, successfully, I think, that a thoughtful, considerate, respectful mother would not pimp her children out for their entire lives, including a non-existent relationship with the bio dad of one of them, in order to avoid working a regular job for her and her purse-holding husband.

And I 457% legit mean that I would rather go to work every day and have my life and materials things (which were hard-earned through educations, mostly) than what they have.

I also know way too many whose lives appear "perfect" on SM because they constantly tell us they're perfect and, in reality, the people in that house are miserable. I think there is likely a inverse relationship between the number of times we're told their lives are perfect and the true level of happiness. In fact, the people are miserable, in part, because of the fake life they're forced to always demonstrate.

 

 

Agreed sooooo much, and I don't like his message. There's nothing to wish for, Cole? What about wishing that your children grow up healthy and happy? That Chelsea finds something that works for her anxiety so she can take a simple car trip? That you can re enter the workforce successfully when you need to? I'm tired of people perpetuating this myth that once you have a spouse and children, that's all you'll ever need to be happy. Messages like these are what influence people to leave perfectly good relationships and marriages because they're not blissfully perfect anymore, and filling 110% of your needs. You're always going to have things in your life that could be better, even after marriage. 

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On 12/25/2019 at 7:10 PM, monicageller said:

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Gah, enough!  They are doing every thing they can to convince their minions they're SO PERFECT.  They are eating up the attention of the fans like crazy.  And Chelsea, please put down the orange filter.  Your poor little girl was orange in the shopping basket pic.  Now in your kissing pic, your chin looks like a close shave AND squared off. 

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