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56 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

Tamra is just trash.  I might say this weekly.  

That's okay, it really can't be said enough.

But I will begrudgingly say she made me laugh twice this week. Once when imitating Emily's sandy cucumber slice, and when she hid behind a napkin to crack up at Emily and Heather's argument over monograms and wet suits.

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My thoughts about the house. First season with Heather, she lived on the same street or neighborhood as Shannon. She and Terri didn't like that because David was a "dumb carpenter" and they thought they were better than them. So they bought this huge mansion. Can't afford it. Sold it, and now live in LA where Heather can develop content for her channel.

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8 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

There’s not one cast member on this show that is likable

They don't even appear to like each other very much either at this point.   Maybe Emily and Gina do but when was the last time we saw a scene of them having fun together?  Watching a bunch of over privileged  women attack each other is the opposite of fun for me.  

 

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14 hours ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:

Is this the world we live in?!?!?!?!?!?!

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Ryan does dress terribly, but Tamra does too.  

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Between the pair of them, the ugliest, most unflattering clothing really gets a field day.  Her TH looks,  Every oversized jacket and acid washed mess he wears.  Her love of cutouts.  His love of text and drawings on his clothes.  They both look like wannabe club hopping clowns from the 90s.  

Well, white trash gonna white trash.  

I can't believe there was this clamor to bring Trailer Trash Barbie back to the show.  

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38 minutes ago, bravofan27 said:

My thoughts about the house. First season with Heather, she lived on the same street or neighborhood as Shannon. She and Terri didn't like that because David was a "dumb carpenter" and they thought they were better than them. So they bought this huge mansion. Can't afford it. Sold it, and now live in LA where Heather can develop content for her channel.

they spent 25million for the house and came away with 55million who would turn that down no matter how much money you had?

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1 hour ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:

Are the Dubrows going to create a scripted show for Heather to star in on the HD Network?  Unless she does scripted work, which is an option, I don't see this as revitalizing her career.  

Heather just wants to be in front of a camera, preferably acting but Home Shopping,  House tours on YouTube, whatever.   If it was really all about acting then I'm sure there were plenty opportunities  in local theater to practice her art, lol.  

I don't see any problem with Heather creating her own show instead auditioning for parts she may or may not get.  Not sure she has the talent to create an interesting show but maybe, we'll see when the writers/actors strikes end. 

 

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Heather's event was over the top pretentious, just like everything she does. While that self-centeredness can be annoying, it's not mean-spirited or spiteful, which is why I feel Emily' behavior was out of bounds.  She was a straight up dick and Heather did nothing to deserve that.

Then, to see her dig in heels and double down on that behavior in Mexico told me that she's  following Tamra's direction on the Heather takedown. That's why she was laughing at the dinner. I hate lemmings/followers. Gina was likely given the same marching orders but waffles because she likes Heather more. 

Heather was also 100% right not to share the house news with these jealous harpies. It reminded me of Jenna on RHONY when the other ladies are demanding you share your personal business only so it gives them ammunition to go after you. Guarantee Tamra would've run straight to her podcast to share the news.

Shannon thinks the colonics will help but what she should focus on is the alcohol, that's why she so tired and bloated.

I don't care about Ryan and how Jenn's mom feels about him.

Why was Taylor even invited on the group trip?

 

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I'll sit at the unpopular table, but I thought it was fun to see Terry and Heather dancing around, celebrating their house sale.  If I sold my house for double what I spent, even at the miniscule amount I paid for my house (compared to Chateau Dubrow), I'd dance around, too!  That's life-changing money!  Heather often comes off as "too cool for school" so seeing her joy at the sale was fun to me.  99% of this show has become drinking and fighting, seeing some joy felt good.

However, Terry did spoil it almost immediately.  Heather said something about where they would go next and instead of saying something sweet like "anywhere with you" or "wherever you're going"...he said something about wherever they go it'll be in private jet.  Barf. 

I'll go drink my Veuve outta the bottle by myself now....

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19 minutes ago, snarts said:

Why was Taylor even invited on the group trip?

Taylor who?  😆

Oh yeah, the background player who only got screen time when she was offering Heather a job and then trashing her imdb.com page.

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* “Gravity stress” = getting older. Happens to the best of us. Prunes and a high-fiber diet will also “unjam” you, Shannon. So when will we see Shannon and Dr. Moon hawking this quackery on the Home Shopping Network? And will Consult Beaute be far behind (pun intended) with its own high colonics? Gawd.

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*I would have had Emily escorted OUT. Eight glasses of champs? You know it’s bad when I’m embarrassed for Heather. NO excuse to get that wasted at such a formal luncheon — Emily was sloppy drunk. Just cut her off already. Heather, she hijacked your table, and you allowed it. That’s on you, dear.

*Speaking of Heather…trying to move past the faux humility she always tries and fails to extend. I’m kinda with Tamra about this HD business. She can’t get acting gigs through auditions, so she’s making basically busywork to stay relevant. Once Ace and Katarina are gone, look for a major midlife implosion.

*Always LOL that these “trips” always sound so spur-of-the moment. 🤣

*Don’t feel good, Shannon? Could it be all the poison you’re putting in your system?  Shannon could at least have been a “maybe, but leaning no” for the luncheon. Just common courtesy. 

*FF’d through Jenn, Ryan, and Jenn’s mom. Don’t care.

*Guess Vicki now knows where she stands with the show. Not invited on the trip. Damn, no Andales. Fuck. Spoke too soon. 

*LOL’d at the waiter…totally understandable that he thought this was a telanovela, because, sir…IT IS. Fruit Roll Up…exactly, Heather. 🤣That dinner was comedy gold. The only thing missing was shots of Taylor’s head going back and forth like at a tennis match. 

*Open season on Heather 🍿. But not everything needs to be Gina’s business, either, and that has nothing to do with friendship. No way in hell I’d tell any of these harpies any details of the sale, NDA or not. Damn…am I actually on Heather’s side? 

How many more episodes before this season wraps?

 

 

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1 hour ago, snarts said:

Heather's event was over the top pretentious, just like everything she does. While that self-centeredness can be annoying, it's not mean-spirited or spiteful, which is why I feel Emily' behavior was out of bounds.  She was a straight up dick and Heather did nothing to deserve that.

Then, to see her dig in heels and double down on that behavior in Mexico told me that she's  following Tamra's direction on the Heather takedown. That's why she was laughing at the dinner. I hate lemmings/followers. Gina was likely given the same marching orders but waffles because she likes Heather more. 

Heather was also 100% right not to share the house news with these jealous harpies. It reminded me of Jenna on RHONY when the other ladies are demanding you share your personal business only so it gives them ammunition to go after you. Guarantee Tamra would've run straight to her podcast to share the news.

Shannon thinks the colonics will help but what she should focus on is the alcohol, that's why she so tired and bloated.

I don't care about Ryan and how Jenn's mom feels about him.

Why was Taylor even invited on the group trip?

 

Why was Taylor even invited to join the show? 

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4 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I checked it out you basically watch these programs some live some pretaped with others and talk ... its got a wide range of shows ... lifestyle, self help, any topic really  and actual scripted content .. I didn't really dive to deep tho but no I wouldn't say its just like those really at all... esp with the scripted programing like you would see on a network 

 

 

So, essentially, Heather Dubrow bought herself an online streaming service so she could update her IMDB?  😂

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15 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

So, essentially, Heather Dubrow bought herself an online streaming service so she could update her IMDB?  😂

That’s the way I’m reading it. She is in panic mode about a career that she let stagnate for more than a decade.

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28 minutes ago, QQQQ said:

HD Network

✦ NIGHTCAP (Tuesday at 5pm) — My weekly cocktail party where nothing is off limits

✦ Curbside Consult (Wednesday at 6pm) — With my husband, celebrity plastic surgeon, Dr. Terry Dubrow ($500 value)

✦ MILF (coming soon) — A show all about motherhood, moguling, and making new friends.

✦ Virtual Meet & Greets

✦ Virtual Small Group Cocktail Parties

✦ Surprise Giveaways

Starting on May 9th The HD Network will be $200/year for members to access all of the network benefits.

😂😂😂😂😂

Good Gawd Almighty!!! THIS IS HYSTERICAL!!!

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Good for Heather but we don't know how leveraged she was.  $55MM is a shitload of money but if she owed $50MM on it, well that net is not that impressive.  And for clarity, I mean relative to Orange County, because that's life changing pie-in-the-sky money to me.

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51 minutes ago, QQQQ said:

HD Network

✦ NIGHTCAP (Tuesday at 5pm) — My weekly cocktail party where nothing is off limits

✦ Curbside Consult (Wednesday at 6pm) — With my husband, celebrity plastic surgeon, Dr. Terry Dubrow ($500 value)

✦ MILF (coming soon) — A show all about motherhood, moguling, and making new friends.

✦ Virtual Meet & Greets

✦ Virtual Small Group Cocktail Parties

✦ Surprise Giveaways

Starting on May 9th The HD Network will be $200/year for members to access all of the network benefits.

😂😂😂😂😂

So....you also have to pay stupid money for the privilege of watching Heather preen online?  

I think that's a hard pass for me.  I don't mind paying for streaming services where I can watch actual decent shows and movies that will actually feature talented actors, but I'll stick with just my weekly pretentious updates from Heather on Bravo.  $200.00 a year to watch Heather and Terry fake fawning over each other and themselves is too much for me.

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So many wives have podcasts,etc. And now Heather has a whole network..I wonder how much they're allowed to reveal to keep their second jobs (so to speak) juicy enough for people to pay attention. Is that why the shows are getting more boring and stuck on formula? I'm sure Bravo signs them to ironclad contracts, but as I wonder about the Project Runway contestants, too... What's to stop them from holding back on their best work or in this case, juicier tidbits to serve their Own projects vs Bravos? 

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1 hour ago, QQQQ said:

HD Network

✦ NIGHTCAP (Tuesday at 5pm) — My weekly cocktail party where nothing is off limits

✦ Curbside Consult (Wednesday at 6pm) — With my husband, celebrity plastic surgeon, Dr. Terry Dubrow ($500 value)

✦ MILF (coming soon) — A show all about motherhood, moguling, and making new friends.

✦ Virtual Meet & Greets

✦ Virtual Small Group Cocktail Parties

✦ Surprise Giveaways

Starting on May 9th The HD Network will be $200/year for members to access all of the network benefits.

😂😂😂😂😂

I pay $72/year for Peacock, and I think I can confidently say I’m getting more for my money. This sounds like public access channel material.

What. Balls.

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It takes a special kind of genius to profit off of people willing to have their medical consultations filmed for all the world to see.

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1 hour ago, QQQQ said:

HD Network

✦ NIGHTCAP (Tuesday at 5pm) — My weekly cocktail party where nothing is off limits

✦ Curbside Consult (Wednesday at 6pm) — With my husband, celebrity plastic surgeon, Dr. Terry Dubrow ($500 value)

✦ MILF (coming soon) — A show all about motherhood, moguling, and making new friends.

✦ Virtual Meet & Greets

✦ Virtual Small Group Cocktail Parties

✦ Surprise Giveaways

Starting on May 9th The HD Network will be $200/year for members to access all of the network benefits.

😂😂😂😂😂

I thought this was a joke and a funny one. It’s real! 
 

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28 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

So many wives have podcasts,etc. And now Heather has a whole network..I wonder how much they're allowed to reveal to keep their second jobs (so to speak) juicy enough for people to pay attention. Is that why the shows are getting more boring and stuck on formula? I'm sure Bravo signs them to ironclad contracts, but as I wonder about the Project Runway contestants, too... What's to stop them from holding back on their best work or in this case, juicier tidbits to serve their Own projects vs Bravos? 

To me, they’re both using each other. Bravo is milking their ridiculousness, and the HWs are profiting from being on Bravo. They’ll ride that horse until it drops.

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2 hours ago, Grumpbump said:

Good for Heather but we don't know how leveraged she was.  $55MM is a shitload of money but if she owed $50MM on it, well that net is not that impressive.  And for clarity, I mean relative to Orange County, because that's life changing pie-in-the-sky money to me.

See, I thought I was the only one who thought like that.  

The last walk through of their house, seemed fake and scripted to me.

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1 hour ago, Chatty Cake said:

I thought this was a joke and a funny one. It’s real! 
 

I thought it was a joke also. What exactly is curbside consult and how does it work? Sounds like he is meeting a patient in a parking lot  She claims it is worth $500.  I still don't understand how this HD network works. Why would someone pay money just to line the Dubrows pockets?  They seem to have a bottomless pit of greed.

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All these women get are Mexico vacations.

Emily and Heather getting insulted and hurt over the stupidist things and a table full of women not asking why Heather was hurt when Emily said she looked like a whale trainer in her wet suit...I'd take it as a compliment. And Heather saying the cookies are Emily's boobs and Emily getting hurt by that, just so dumb.

So now we have the obligatory scene with Shannon and Archie, more Archie less human please.

 

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1) Drunk Emily is my spirit animal.  If i'd been at the party I would have downed eight glasses of "champs" and joined her.  Does that make me bad? Lol.

2) These women aren't friends.  They are co-workers whose office is in front of tv cameras.  Heather signed an NDA.  It would have been inappropriate (illegal) for her to share the news of the house sale.

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21 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

I thought this was a joke and a funny one. It’s real! 
 

OMG! Same!

20 hours ago, Axie said:

All Shannon needs to do is eat at Taco Bell. Nothing Dr. Moon can do that Taco Bell won’t do faster. 

And it fits with my rule that people should only eat Taco Bell when drunk . 😎

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3 hours ago, maggiemae said:

I'm astounded Mark Cuban is an investor in Heather's whatever it is.

So from what I understand, Mark invested in a podcast app called Fireside, along with business partner Falon Fatemi who we saw in a previous episode when they met with Heather. This investment in the app was announced way back in Feb 2021, so two and a half years ago. It hardly seems to be taking...well anything...by storm.

Heather is just one person who I guess has signed on to promote herself using the app, but decided to make it sound like it is all about her by calling her offering HD Network. The funny thing is, I just read a blurb from this past April when I think it launched, where Falon Fatemi does not refer to HD as standing for Heather Dubrow, but rather High Definition. So was Heather just blowing smoke at her party and making it sound like HD is named after her? Fatemi certainly doesn't seem to know that, she does not once mention the letters HD in relation to Heather's name. Too funny. 

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9 hours ago, maggiemae said:

I'm astounded Mark Cuban is an investor in Heather's whatever it is.

He should have had her pitch this on Shark Tank. 

 

6 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

So from what I understand, Mark invested in a podcast app called Fireside, along with business partner Falon Fatemi who we saw in a previous episode when they met with Heather. This investment in the app was announced way back in Feb 2021, so two and a half years ago. It hardly seems to be taking...well anything...by storm.

Heather is just one person who I guess has signed on to promote herself using the app, but decided to make it sound like it is all about her by calling her offering HD Network. The funny thing is, I just read a blurb from this past April when I think it launched, where Falon Fatemi does not refer to HD as standing for Heather Dubrow, but rather High Definition. So was Heather just blowing smoke at her party and making it sound like HD is named after her? Fatemi certainly doesn't seem to know that, she does not once mention the letters HD in relation to Heather's name. Too funny. 

No, it was her ego. I’m surprised she didn’t have a cake with “HD” in sparklers and a 10-foot spun sugar bow. She’s gotten a lot of mileage out of those initials, that’s for sure. Of course she thinks it’s named after her.

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11 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I thought it was a joke also. What exactly is curbside consult and how does it work? Sounds like he is meeting a patient in a parking lot  She claims it is worth $500.  I still don't understand how this HD network works. Why would someone pay money just to line the Dubrows pockets?  They seem to have a bottomless pit of greed.

Could “curbside consult” be a knockoff of telemedicine? Who in the hell would trust this? 

I’ve watched Terry shill his stuff on TV (it’s now gone from skin care to diet/weight loss supplements), and honestly he should leave Paul Nassif and open a practice with Dr. Moon. No respect for him. (His claim about the weight loss shit was jaw-dropping. He actually said that all that was needed to lose weight was his pills — yeah, you weigh less because your wallet’s lighter. 💸💸💸💸💸💸)

Yeah, they don’t even hide their money-grubbing anymore, if they ever did. That’s why I can’t stand them — Terry especially. You can almost see the dollar signs in that man’s eyes.

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On 9/6/2023 at 8:32 PM, Emmeline said:

The Dubrow’s home was very beige and brown.  Their previous home on the water was white and bright.  I preferred that one.

That was one of the ugliest houses I've ever seen. I can't imagine who would buy that house if not the CCP.

She's

12 hours ago, maggiemae said:

I'm astounded Mark Cuban is an investor in Heather's whatever it is.

He's such a poser. I'm not.

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Shannon working on an enema tip that won't come off in your butt...can she get a government grant for that research, I mean it will better mankind.

Why hasn't Tamra promoted her CBD business on the show?

Do people actually sign NDA's for real estate deals with people on a reality show? 

 

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2 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

Could “curbside consult” be a knockoff of telemedicine? Who in the hell would trust this? 

I’ve watched Terry shill his stuff on TV (it’s now gone from skin care to diet/weight loss supplements), and honestly he should leave Paul Nassif and open a practice with Dr. Moon. No respect for him. (His claim about the weight loss shit was jaw-dropping. He actually said that all that was needed to lose weight was his pills — yeah, you weigh less because your wallet’s lighter. 💸💸💸💸💸💸)

Yeah, they don’t even hide their money-grubbing anymore, if they ever did. That’s why I can’t stand them — Terry especially. You can almost see the dollar signs in that man’s eyes.

We share the same opinion of Terry.  He will shill anything.  Also, his skills as a surgeon aren't great.  On his show, he does more gaslighting than quality surgery.  Nassif  is highly skilled.  Terry's skills are running his mouth and raking in cash.

I assume a curbside consult could be Terry telling you everything he claims he can improve about your appearance.  Seeing him up close would convince me to not let him near me.  He has made some interesting choices for his own appearance. 

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21 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

they spent 25million for the house and came away with 55million who would turn that down no matter how much money you had?

And this couple isn't poor and hiding it like most on these shows.  They have legit money.

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1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Shannon working on an enema tip that won't come off in your butt...can she get a government grant for that research, I mean it will better mankind.

Why hasn't Tamra promoted her CBD business on the show?

Do people actually sign NDA's for real estate deals with people on a reality show? 

 

I am still laughing at the bolded.  I have never met/seen anyone so into colonics.  That cannot be healthy!  Let your gut flora and digestive system work.  If it doesn't, assess your diet.  Don't keep draining your colon.  When she is really old my guess is she will no longer be able to control her bowels.  Don't know why I think that, no medical knowledge, but it just seems like a possibility.  Could be just talking outta my ass!  HA!

If Tamra promoted it, Bravo would get part of it.  Bethenny Clause.  I think NDA's are normal for large scale purchases.  People who can afford 55 mil homes don't want their business bandied about.

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15 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

And this couple isn't poor and hiding it like most on these shows.  They have legit money.

Exactly.. I mean do they annoy the hell out of me 99% of the time yes .. but I would never question if they had “real” money cause i mean out of all of them they obviously do 

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The entire original premise of the show was to get a peek "behind the gates" at the wealthy women of Coto and their families, and how they live. This is exactly what we are getting from Heather, but most people mock her for being pretentious. I would rather see Heather spending her money any day of the week than most of these other women who only know how to get sloppy drunk and fight. YMMV of course. 

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11 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

 

 

No, it was her ego. I’m surprised she didn’t have a cake with “HD” in sparklers and a 10-foot spun sugar bow. She’s gotten a lot of mileage out of those initials, that’s for sure. Of course she thinks it’s named after her.

I don't suppose we would be lucky enough for one of the howives to point out, maybe on a reunion episode, that HD Network doesn't actually stand for Heather Dubrow Network, but High Definition Network? IRRC, on the episode Heather even referred to Oprah's OWN Network, as a comparison to her HD Network. But of course she knows that HD doesn't actually stand for Heather Dubrow. She is hoping others don't find that out, though. 

 

5 hours ago, tvfanatic13 said:

The entire original premise of the show was to get a peek "behind the gates" at the wealthy women of Coto and their families, and how they live. This is exactly what we are getting from Heather, but most people mock her for being pretentious. I would rather see Heather spending her money any day of the week than most of these other women who only know how to get sloppy drunk and fight. YMMV of course. 

You can be wealthy and not pretentious,. You can be not wealthy but pretentious. In fact pretentious means that you are attempting to impress by affecting more importance than you actually possess. Heather would be pretentious, rich or not. That is her personality. 

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On 9/6/2023 at 9:11 PM, Stats Queen said:

I’m behind but Terry and Heather are going through their with the last time they will see it. Too bad we didn’t see those spaces the walked through before - I guess the ropes preventing people from entering are gone.

Heather has videos of every room, and the exterior areas (I kid you not) on her YouTube channel.

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On 9/7/2023 at 2:29 PM, bravofan27 said:

My thoughts about the house. First season with Heather, she lived on the same street or neighborhood as Shannon. She and Terri didn't like that because David was a "dumb carpenter" and they thought they were better than them. So they bought this huge mansion. Can't afford it. Sold it, and now live in LA where Heather can develop content for her channel.

The Dubrows built the second house in the same neighborhood (Newport Coast), but it was a lot larger, of course. They buy, or build to flip- they owned at least 20 houses during their marriage.

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On 9/7/2023 at 7:39 PM, Grumpbump said:

Good for Heather but we don't know how leveraged she was.  $55MM is a shitload of money but if she owed $50MM on it, well that net is not that impressive.  And for clarity, I mean relative to Orange County, because that's life changing pie-in-the-sky money to me.

She didn't owe $50 million. The house cost about $21 million to build (and another $4 million if the lot was not included in this amount). The Dubrows took a loan which I assume would be less than the cost of the new house because I don't doubt they used most, if not all of the profit they had from the sale of the previous Newport Coast house (the one the Dubrows were building when they first joined the show) to build the new house.

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Just 👐 because 👐 you 👐 do 👐 this 👐 with 👐 your 👐 fucking 👐 hands 👐doesn't 👐 make 👐 it 👐 true 👐 either👐

Priceless! 😅 I watched it 5 times. 

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On 9/7/2023 at 4:28 PM, RoseAllDay said:

*Guess Vicki now knows where she stands with the show. Not invited on the trip. Damn, no Andales. Fuck. Spoke too soon.

Vicki was invited to the Mexico trip according to the previews. 

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