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I liked the Alex dream with him, Stephanie and Chad. I laughed.

Alex may be a skank but he was decent and respectful and funny with Chanel and Allie. Both ladies were awesome and I think that Chanel had a good line about him being a bit awkward in that he is in love with both of them and then a good laugh.

Gabi’s dress was nice today. Aww, EJ - getting comfy in the CEO chair.

Hi Wendy Shin! Guess the Alaska promotion wasn’t working out. Poor girl is tired of eating moose. Clever girl to find stuff on her brother’s computer. Keep digging.

Chad has to sign an NDA for Paulina and her November surprise? It is not even mid October! And of course Chanel needs to know about the blackmail.

Alex, of course, drops in on Chad and Stephanie, who are working at her mom’s place.

Johnny is upset at his dad wanting him to find someone age appropriate, he opens the door to hello Wendy.

Jake is getting a Gabi memory.

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Oh, is she going by Wendy?  At least they're having Li call her by her birth name.  I thought Remington Hoffman was good in those scenes with her.  One of the few times I didn't feel like I was watching him "acting".

How curious that the Show mentioned The Manchurian Candidate on the day of Lansbury's passing.  She was chilling in that film.  Probably my favorite performance of hers.  

I don't know if it was intentional but I liked how Stefan's flashback to a Gabi moment was dark and cloudy, like a real memory.  

I keep forgetting that Stefan had a more rigid personality and get slightly confused as to why I'm seeing Brandon Barash on my screen and he isn't behaving like Jake.

7 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

Do we have any idea if what we're seeing now was shot after they knew about the move to Peacock? I'm assuming so just because I can't imagine NBC would have let them get away with the threesome.

Unless the Show Runners were lying, I don't think they found out until right before the audience was told of the switch over.  This would have been filmed at least 6 months ago, and the scenes written even before that.  I'm assuming NBC would have edited out what They didn't like and left more to the audience's imagination.  They had been editing the Show for quite awhile, from my understanding.  

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2 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

I liked the Alex dream with him, Stephanie and Chad. I laughed.

Alex may be a skank but he was decent and respectful and funny with Chanel and Allie. Both ladies were awesome and I think that Chanel had a good line about him being a bit awkward in that he is in love with both of them and then a good laugh.

It was great, to be honest. The show is such a queerbait tease with Chad and I kinda love it, to be honest. LOL

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9 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Yes I remember MS apparently beat him up over it and that's why he got fired from Days CC quit in solidarity. At least that's how the story went back then.

RKK created better drama BTS than he did on screen I remember how he was rather awful to Sandra Ferguson during a coke binge which is why we got Evan/Amanda affair on AW.

Anyone know if RKK is still working in the industry?

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Well, the current supersoft porn threesome is oh-so preferable to the Maggie/Mickey/Bonnie bed-in [excuse me a moment while my butt cheeks unclench in horror at the memory]

It's not an ageism thing; it was just soooo out of character for Mickey and Maggie (but not for Bonnie 😄). As I recall, Maggie had died [yawn...] And Mick had moved on to Ms Lockhart (?!). When Mags eventually returned from the dead, she competed to become Mickey's sole bedmate by letting him choose who was better. Ewwww. Icky *and* sexist. This was after John Ingle had replaced the original Mickey, John Clarke (I wonder if JC would've gone along with it).

So my okay-ing of Chanel/Alex/Allie isn't because they're simply young and hot. It didn't reek of competition and desperation. And the "intimacy coordinator" did a great job 🙂

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On 10/11/2022 at 11:15 AM, worleybird said:

So now I've seen it all.

You know how when there is a big fight scene, when they roll the cast list in the closing credits they will have "Stunt Coordinator" listed?

Well, on today's episode on the cast list (beacuse of the three-way yesterday) the last listing was "Intimacy Coordinator"

OMFG!!!

If only the show would hire an 'Improve Ron's Writing' Coordinator.  That would be money well invested. 

On 10/10/2022 at 11:23 PM, Frozendiva said:

Allie hasn’t had this much life since she was possessed. I don’t see her and Chanel in it for the long haul. I ff’d the threesome scenes - kinda boring but I suppose tasteful. The show could pull Alex being a baby daddy to both Chanel and Allie, but I don’t want to go there.

I'd rather see them end up with an STD instead of babies...no way is Manwhore Alex not loaded with them.  Realism, Ron, realism damn it. 

On 10/11/2022 at 5:26 PM, peachmangosteen said:

Do we have any idea if what we're seeing now was shot after they knew about the move to Peacock? I'm assuming so just because I can't imagine NBC would have let them get away with the threesome.

Ken and Ron have said that we won't see the stuff filmed for Peacock till Jan/Feb.  I think it's far more likely NBC saw what was filmed for this Fall that was originally planned for Network, shook their heads, and made a much easier decision. 

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2 hours ago, Swartz said:

I like Wendy but I wonder if she's eventually going to become annoying.  I don't like Johnny and his smug face 

She's on the mothership its only a matter of time

15 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Anyone know if RKK is still working in the industry?

He last appeared as Stavros a few years back then Laura finally killed him for good on GH but beyond that he's pretty much left the industry.

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52 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

He last appeared as Stavros a few years back then Laura finally killed him for good on GH but beyond that he's pretty much left the industry.

He pissed off the ladies on General Hospital with his antics and his story as Stavros was cut short.. It was supposed to go even longer with Stavros  forcing Laura and Nicholas to live together  with him as a family.. 

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So Alex drops in at Stephanie’s place aka her mom and dad’s, finds Chad there and presumes he and Steph hooked up. He was close and it is pretty similar to him wanting to hook up with her while working for him.

What is in the blackmail file that Paulina wants to end her run for Governor? Should that not have been hidden better so nothing comes out? Who is her opponent? The story seems silly. Sloan sure is hungry for the cash. What is the motive?

Li is trying to save his hide. Probably should not have told EJ that he brought Stefan back. Gabi will be picked up by Titan or blackmail her way back.

Johnny, you don’t know Wendy but I guess both of you would make a good team.

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I know I've seen Sloan Peterson in scenes before, but today I finally realized that Sloan Peterson is actually 

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Jessica Rabbit.  Without, of course the subtlety and talent.

Then we were introduced to Shen's little sister, the exact opposite of J. Rabbit, except for the lack of talent.  Though, to be fair, she got better as the show went on.

It's hard to say that RSW's new character is worse than his run as the world's most romantic serial killer, but it's at least a tie.  He's obviously been living under a rock so why doesn't someone drop a really big one ON his head?

Show should think twice about having Paulina play "indignant".  I was afraid there was going to be a spanx explosion that could have taken out the whole studio.

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11 hours ago, boes said:

t's hard to say that RSW's new character is worse than his run as the world's most romantic serial killer, but it's at least a tie

Pun intended? I haven't watched the show in a long time, but it's even hard to read the daily summaries now.

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Kate and Roman had a nice wedding, with their two sons there. Roman looked so young in some of the flashbacks.

Chloe, Kristen would love you dumping Brady.

That poor sad orchid must have just exploded to bloom that quickly.

Maybe Sami was nice to Belle because their mother is ‘dying’.

Orpheus, of course, sends an orchid tease to Marlena.

Kristen, give the orchid that heals without any strings. Show you have changed and Brady might like you.

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4 hours ago, Swartz said:

As if the possession rehash wasn't bad enough Ron's going to rehash some old story again with Marlena and the clones isn't he?   He really can't come up with his own stories and the old stories he revisits are some of the cheesiest of cheese.  

Clones?! Oh, for fuck's sake.

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They can show me a million and one flashbacks of Kate and Roman being in lurve and I'll still think they're as dull as dishwater.

In theory, I like the idea of mining history for current storylines but there's nothing about this Orchid Redux that feels thoughtful or introspective, especially for mature characters who could be having interesting conversations about life and death.  

Let me guess....Brady has to marry Kristen in order to save Marlena and her BFFs.  

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On 10/12/2022 at 7:14 PM, CanaryFan98 said:

She's on the mothership its only a matter of time

He last appeared as Stavros a few years back then Laura finally killed him for good on GH but beyond that he's pretty much left the industry.

It was funny that like Kristen before him, Stavros realized his object of obsession was too old now so he transferred it to their offspring. LOL

I do like Wendy as of now. We'll see if she sparks with Johnny, who I do generally prefer.

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Didn't Rolf say the orchid was from South Africa? Isn't that where Eric has been the last half of his life? For all the good Eric has done for their country, you'd think someone could find a long lost seed and plant it? Or maybe one of his co-workers in South Africa has also been nurturing the rare orchid in a greenhouse?

Come on writers! We'll accept anything besides Kristen blackmailing Brady 🙄

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8 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Didn't Rolf say the orchid was from South Africa? Isn't that where Eric has been the last half of his life? For all the good Eric has done for their country, you'd think someone could find a long lost seed and plant it? Or maybe one of his co-workers in South Africa has also been nurturing the rare orchid in a greenhouse?

Come on writers! We'll accept anything besides Kristen blackmailing Brady 🙄

It was South America.

4 minutes ago, boes said:

It was South America.

Minor point...LOL.  The major point being that the writers need be a bit more creative without resorting to blackmail and Kristen getting Brady back into her bed. If that happens, let's just hope all her eggs have dried up.

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On 10/8/2022 at 7:52 PM, brisbydog said:

So both of Allie's grandmothers are dying and she decides this is a good time for a threesome? Has she even stopped by the hospital?

Not surprising. But what I want to know is where in the hell is Henry..did she smother him in his blanket? WTF was she thinking..wait, never mind.

I had high hopes for Chanel..poof..gone, she’s as ditzy as her partner.

WHERE IS HENRY?? Where is the blanket? Anything, just give me a sign!!!

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5 hours ago, Chellfairy said:

WHERE IS HENRY?? Where is the blanket? Anything, just give me a sign!!!

We were told that Henry is with Nicole. Since we saw Nicole this episode, Henry is either in the wash or back with Allie.

This episode had some real, real, real bad acting.

I've never been a Stayla family fan, and this episode did nothing to change my mind. I missed the heyday of Stayla in the 80s/90s, and I found every single storyline they had since 2006 to be terrible. I didn't like SH's Stephanie, and this new Stephanie is even worse. She plays Stephanie like a hormonal 15-year-old. The scene with her screaming at John and on the ground with the orchid was embarrassing. Tripp has always been terrible and time away has not given him an opportunity for improvement. This is my first time seeing this new Joey - I assume he was introduced during BS2. I didn't watch that series. However, he played every scene like he was forgetting his lines three seconds before he had to recite them.

Next, shouldn't there be some animosity between Tripp/Joey considering Joey "killed" Ava. I wouldn't expect that to be the focus since Kayla is dying, but considering the Kayla/Tripp history and the Joey/Ava history, Joey/Tripp don't seem like they should be this close. 

As much as it pains me to say this, but I hope we get an Ava/Joey scene. I think the scene would be horrible between Ava's smirking and Joey's 3 second long pauses between words, but attempted murder should have some type of repercussion. 

Lastly, Steve. While I appreciate that Days does a good job with avoiding agism. We still see the older characters be heroes, in love scenes, finding love, in careers, and they still seem like whole people. That being said, SN has got to stop playing Steve like a 22-year-old. I know DH/John will never will an acting award, but he does a much better job of showing a tough guy who has matured, is more balanced, and more controlled. Steve just seems like a 22-year-old hothead that Kayla and John are constantly trying to reel in from his latest emotional outburst. I know he's been "dead" and brainwashed for a good 20 something years of his life, but he should still at least have the emotional maturity of a 35 year old.  He and this version of Stephanie seemed to have inherited a Peter Pan complex.

Nicole/Chloe were awkwardly cut into this episode. 

I usually like Eric/Jade scenes, but Eric kept misdirecting his anger at her. Considering the circumstances, that would be understandable, but neither the acting nor the writing for Jade seem to indicate she was registering this mistreatment. Seemed out-of-character for Jada.

I can't decide if John wanting to throw the vial without even having it tested by a medical professional was out-of-character or an understandable explosion of what he's been going through lately. This kinda sums up the difference in Steve and John for me. I would expect Steve to be hotheaded and do it without a second thought. With John, I'm unsure. I know it's supposed to be a reaction to the orchid Orpheus sent, but they are at a University Hospital. Wouldn't it make more sense to just get it tested. Sarah isn't doing anything else but contemplating more haircuts I would hate.

Kristen's plan seem like it would make more sense if she forced Brady to marry her. DOOL universe characters do still seem to hate divorce even if they no longer want to or never wanted to be married to their partner. Also, Kristen/Brady have never gotten married.

With the housing crisis in Salem, I wondered if they and Rachel would live in Jake's one-bedroom studio, in the ever-expanding condo of Jarlena, or in the room were Abby was just murdered in the Dimera Mansion. It would be a good time to teach Rachel about blood splatter and the proper way to clean up a crime scene. 

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5 hours ago, Chellfairy said:

WHERE IS HENRY?? Where is the blanket? Anything, just give me a sign!!!

Since he's no longer a blanket, I'm guessing he's at boarding school with Holly (3 or 4 - however old he is - isn't too young to be shipped off to boarding school, right?)

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6 hours ago, 4evaQuez said:

I've never been a Stayla family fan, and this episode did nothing to change my mind. I missed the heyday of Stayla in the 80s/90s, and I found every single storyline they had since 2006 to be terrible. I didn't like SH's Stephanie, and this new Stephanie is even worse. She plays Stephanie like a hormonal 15-year-old. The scene with her screaming at John and on the ground with the orchid was embarrassing. Tripp has always been terrible and time away has not given him an opportunity for improvement. This is my first time seeing this new Joey - I assume he was introduced during BS2. I didn't watch that series. However, he played every scene like he was forgetting his lines three seconds before he had to recite them.

Stayla's original story  other than that stupid Marina retcon was awesome because they had good writers and I also hated every story they have had since 2006.  The only Stefanie that I liked was the original because the show attempted to make her a heroine that was not generic and boring.. I also thought that she had good chemistry with EJ.  

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Stephanie wasn't the problem in that John scene. John was. Or more Drake was.  He was so OTT it was embarrassing.  Abigail Klein was fine.  Drake on the other hand...

I loved seeing all the Johnson kids together.  The guy playing Joey has potential. Hope he's sticking around.  Cried when Steve was feeing Kayla the pizza and Kayla was crying because her entire family was there.  MBE was good there.

I liked Stayla story in 07 when Steve was brainwashed. I also liked Ava kidnapping Stayla and Bope in 08.   Under Ron I liked Steve being blind but like all of Ron stories it never reaches its full potential. 

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5 minutes ago, Swartz said:

The guy playing Joey has potential. Hope he's sticking around. 

He was really good on the Youtube show Impulse. He wasn't as great in Beyond Salem but yea he has potential.

I truly do not care at all about anything related to this Marlena/Kayla/Kate story so I basically fast forwarded this whole ep. 

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57 minutes ago, Swartz said:

Stephanie wasn't the problem in that John scene. John was. Or more Drake was.  He was so OTT it was embarrassing.  Abigail Klein was fine.  Drake on the other hand...

I loved seeing all the Johnson kids together.  The guy playing Joey has potential. Hope he's sticking around.  Cried when Steve was feeing Kayla the pizza and Kayla was crying because her entire family was there.  MBE was good there.

I liked Stayla story in 07 when Steve was brainwashed. I also liked Ava kidnapping Stayla and Bope in 08.   Under Ron I liked Steve being blind but like all of Ron stories it never reaches its full potential. 

MBE always brings it when the scene is written well.

My whole problem with the Stayla story in 2007 stemmed from Kayla being a celibate and not having a life outside of Steve.  Whereas Steve was able to have one with that odious Ava and even fathered another child. 

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Joey and Tripp flew across country, Rex flew in, I think Eric mentioned Carrie & Austin,  Lucas is calling from jail,  Sami is calling, but Ally can't visit her grandmother's plus aunt instead is doing threesomes. Where's Johnny too? He's instead of going to his grandmother, he's hating his dad for proving Ava is a liar. 

Loved Johnson family coming together and dinner. 

Kristen is vile horrible person who can go back to jail anytime now. 

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9 hours ago, 4evaQuez said:

Next, shouldn't there be some animosity between Tripp/Joey considering Joey "killed" Ava. I wouldn't expect that to be the focus since Kayla is dying, but considering the Kayla/Tripp history and the Joey/Ava history, Joey/Tripp don't seem like they should be this close. 

I'm not really watching, but I assumed that was the point of bringing Joey back. They're not writing to that?

The timing of these overlapping plots is so bad. Allie is having a threesome while Marlena is dying?? *slow clap*

I saw a bit of Roman proposing to Kate and I just kept yelling "No! Say no, Kate!" at the screen. I hope she listened.

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1 hour ago, brisbydog said:

So is idiot Brady going to just spin to his family and Chloe that he decided he was still in love with the murdering sociopath and they are going to buy it? 

Brady is not particularly bright and he has forgiven/fallen for Kristen multiple times in the past after she has done horrible, criminal acts against his family (stealing his son in vitro, trying to kill Marlena, kidnapping/drugging Sami, paralyzing Paul, threatening to shoot his family members at another Marlena/John wedding, stabbing Victor).  The most recent breakup has lasted longer because she tried to kill Chloe but that doesn't mean that he couldn't fall for Kristen again.

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2 hours ago, brisbydog said:

So is idiot Brady going to just spin to his family and Chloe that he decided he was still in love with the murdering sociopath and they are going to buy it?

I think he will just tell them that he realizes that Rachel needs them to be together so he is doing it for her sake, not that he loves Kristen. And I am sure that Kristen will have Rolf say that the women will need an annual updated booster or something, but once they start feeling better, I am sure that someone can steal the serum and Brady can escape his hell. Or, they will get Rolf on something and he will use this as a bargaining chip and sell her out. Wouldn't it be great if Chloe announces that she is pregnant? We already anticipate that Eric and Nicole will find their way back to each other and Jada will announce her pregnancy. (SPECULATION, but come on!!)

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Hi Tripp and Joey! Long time no see.

I agree that John was overacting. Don’t destroy the orchid juice. Brady is paying a hefty price. I would wait out the three doses. That poor plant. Hope someone cares for it so it doesn’t die first aka me the plant killer.

Brady, you need a plan to wiggle out from Kristen’s control. Of course you will say it is about Rachel and her hating Chloe. So you need to be a family.

At least Nicole and Chloe are friends. She may still have an attraction to Eric, but could get away with any touching because his mom is dying.

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19 hours ago, Chellfairy said:

Not surprising. But what I want to know is where in the hell is Henry..did she smother him in his blanket? WTF was she thinking..wait, never mind.

I had high hopes for Chanel..poof..gone, she’s as ditzy as her partner.

WHERE IS HENRY?? Where is the blanket? Anything, just give me a sign!!!

Not going to lie, I really thought the idea for Allie and Chanel was for them to be living in lesbian domestic bliss while raising Henry a la what they did with Mariah on the Young and the Restless. That pretty much seemed to be where they were going with all this. I'm kind of baffled by what they're doing instead. Although I guess we still got a few more obstacles before the inevitable wedding that Paulina will no doubt officiate, with a broom and all.

6 hours ago, Pearson80 said:

My whole problem with the Stayla story in 2007 stemmed from Kayla being a celibate and not having a life outside of Steve.  Whereas Steve was able to have one with that odious Ava and even fathered another child. 

My problem with it is that I know them as Stefan and Katherine on General Hospital and I kind of just really preferred those characters over Steve and Kayla.

I eventually warmed up to them, but eh, Stefan was hot and he had so much potential with Katherine. A part of me kind of wanted Steve to stay Stevano because it was kind of like having back a version of Stefan Cassadine.

7 hours ago, Swartz said:

I loved seeing all the Johnson kids together.  The guy playing Joey has potential. Hope he's sticking around.  Cried when Steve was feeing Kayla the pizza and Kayla was crying because her entire family was there.  MBE was good there.

Budgets are so limited these days that it's kinda nice when you see an entire family together. Like we could never possibly see all of Marlena and John's kids/stepkids together but they were able to do that with Kayla and with Kate. (Somewhat.)

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Did Jake own the motorcycle repair shop that Kristen is living above?  Didn't it go to Vivian along with his shares? Why isn't Kristen in the DiMansion?

John doesn't want Steve to leave the hospital "with the girls like this".  I guess he doesn't care that nobody gets to visit Kate.

Did Show get a discount on mass quantities of that light blue nail polish that every woman seems to be wearing?

Once the powers that be get their hands on the serum, can't some scientist examine it to make it outside of Rolf's lab?

Where are Kate's kids?  Well, I know Lucas is in jail, but is Philip going to just pretend he's dead and not come see his mother on her death bed? If they can get Billie on the digital show, they can get her on the main show. Same with Austin.

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1 hour ago, methodwriter85 said:

My problem with it is that I know them as Stefan and Katherine on General Hospital and I kind of just really preferred those characters over Steve and Kayla.

I preferred Stefan with Bobbie. I loved Stefan and did not care for Katherine.

1 hour ago, methodwriter85 said:

Not going to lie, I really thought the idea for Allie and Chanel was for them to be living in lesbian domestic bliss while raising Henry a la what they did with Mariah on the Young and the Restless. That pretty much seemed to be where they were going with all this. I'm kind of baffled by what they're doing instead. Although I guess we still got a few more obstacles before the inevitable wedding that Paulina will no doubt officiate, with a broom and all.

8 hours ago, Pearson80 said:

 Ron would do the jumping the broom with a lesbian interracial couple getting married in order to be "woke" just because Chanel is black.  Chanel should be single and Allie should be gone.. I may be in the minority but I preferred the original Chanel. 

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6 hours ago, RedElf said:

Did Jake own the motorcycle repair shop that Kristen is living above?  Didn't it go to Vivian along with his shares? Why isn't Kristen in the DiMansion?

EJ owns the DiMansion and she was mad at him for not being his attorney when she was arrested last time and sent to prison. She voted against him and for Gabi in one of the CEO Dimera votes. Eventually she is going to have to ask EJ if she could move back in once she gets sick living over the garage.

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11 hours ago, Pearson80 said:

I preferred Stefan with Bobbie. I loved Stefan and did not care for Katherine.

 Ron would do the jumping the broom with a lesbian interracial couple getting married in order to be "woke" just because Chanel is black.  Chanel should be single and Allie should be gone.. I may be in the minority but I preferred the original Chanel. 

I actually think the original Chanel was better in retrospect I felt like they were more willing to let her be shady longer... she also had better chemistry with LA's Allie than this one who I think clicks with Johnny above all else.

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I like both Chanels. They're pretty much different characters. I definitely enjoyed Precious Way more though. I almost wish they'd bring her back but also still keep Raven Bowens as a new character. Or bring PW back as a new character that's just like her version of Chanel lol.

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