S12.E11: The Weight of Words

[hoodooznoodooz]

1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

What chair will the tongue be sitting in at the reunion?

The WWCL guys joked about how her slug should have a chyron showing its “friend of” status, given the screen time it receives.

Edited July 21, 2022 by hoodooznoodooz

[Lassus]

I'm a bit behind, but I agree with the sentiment that Erika wasn't being intentionally cruel with her laxative comment, just selfishly stupid.  In her talking head, even Crystal found it amusingly batshit.  

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8 hours ago, sistermagpie said:

My favorite was when she showed off the container that could keep things hot or cold and Dorit said, "Amazing!" Like she thought Jamie Lee Curtis had just invented the thermos.

I know!  I laughed very loudly at this; the fact that Dorit then went on with it was just an added bonus.

Edited July 21, 2022 by Lassus

[Lassus]

3 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Among the affluent, is [$25,000] considered impressive? I thought it would be much higher. 

My exact thought, was going to make the same comment.  How much has she spent on handbags in the last 2 years?

Edited July 21, 2022 by Lassus

[RoseAllDay]

37 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Hey, Kathy served a baked potato for a luncheon entree so....piecemeal you would get a whole, well balanced meal.

All the decorated trees in the world would not make Diana's house look less of a some sort of an evil willian's house. 

As far as the ornament drink, so you get a glass with an ornament filled with a drink and a sprig of rosemary...you have to pour the drink out in to the glass, dispose of the ornament and sprig, seems like too much work, lol.

Crystal says she is really suffering with her body image and eating disorder but opts to wear only a shirt to Diana's party. 

Erika telling Crystal about a laxative was ridiculous, over use of a laxative can actually do a lot of damage, namely your body can forget how to trigger pooping naturally. Also, I have a feeling Crystal already knows about laxatives.

The woman literally listed every eating disorder trick in the book to someone who is obviously struggling at a difficult time of the year, and then asked what I thought were really invasive questions that were not coming from a good place. (I don’t think Crystal is looking for a storyline. EDs can be a lifelong struggle.) Yes, Erika was drunk, but I’m not excusing that. A sloppy, mean drunk. 

Kyle was able to relate and have a kind conversation with her, but I think anyone with a trace of compassion could empathize. Which obviously leaves out Erika. If I saw that woman walking toward me at a party, I’d GTFO. 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

7 hours ago, Surrealist said:

Watching them makes one completely come away thinking that Kathy barely tolerates Kyle's existence.

See when I watch them, I see Kyle finding Kathy's rich-lady cluelessness essentially as ridiculous as the rest of us. And I also just see two sisters who aren't really impressed with each other but in a good way - their relationship feels authentic. It makes me like both of them a little more. 

[RoseAllDay]

18 minutes ago, Lassus said:

I'm a bit behind, but I agree with the sentiment that Erika wasn't being intentionally cruel with her laxative comment, just selfishly stupid.  In her talking head, even Crystal found it amusingly batshit.  

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I know!  I laughed very loudly at this; the fact that Dorit then went on with it was just an added bonus.

Okay, I take back my first impression that Erika was being cruel, but I’m having a difficult time with her running her mouth because of her alcohol consumption. She is a mean drunk — probably not in league with Dorinda Medley (yet),  but still. Maybe the best way to deal with her is to not deal with her when she does shit like this. Just walk away and let her continue to pickle herself, and then remind her when she’s sober what she said. (Not that it would probably make any difference.)

Still glad Bravo had the decency to show the ED hotline contacts. I can understand how that episode could have been triggering.

Edited July 21, 2022 by RoseAllDay
Typo

[eleanorofaquitaine]

4 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

The flashback of Jamie Lee Curtis announcing that Vile and Mauricio’s donation bumped them up to an elite status. 
Then Vile announcing at her lunch that they were donating $25K to a fund they named for Jamie Lee Curtis and Vile.

Among the affluent, is that considered impressive? I thought it would be much higher. 

Most non-profits prefer a diverse donor base - better to have a lot of rich people donating than just one or two. $25,000 would likely be considered a major gift, though you are correct that there can be much larger donations into the millions. 

But I suspect that the whole luncheon was a bit of a scheme cooked up by JLC, Kyle and hospital staff to do just what it did - spur Diana (and others) to donate. I don't think Diana was specifically the target or anything but the idea here was Kyle and JLC being public in their support means others in their circle - and perhaps members of the viewing audience - will also be compelled to donate. And it's all for a good cause, so no harm, no foul.

[Lassus]

5 minutes ago, RoseAllDay said:

Still glad Bravo had the decency to show the ED hotline contacts. I can understand how that episode could have been triggering.

I guess there's no way to make this come out sounding great, but the consensus in our house was that Jackie's story on NJ was a lot more affecting and educational than Crystal's.

[RoseAllDay]

34 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

The WWCL guys joked about how her slug should have a chyron showing its “friend of” status, given the screen time it 

Can’t wait to see the musical montage at the reunion.

[RoseAllDay]

2 minutes ago, Lassus said:

I guess there's no way to make this come out sounding great, but the consensus in our house was that Jackie's story on NJ was a lot more affecting and educational than Crystal's.

I don’t watch NJ, so I’m not familiar, but different people express things or share in different ways? 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

2 minutes ago, Lassus said:

I guess there's no way to make this come out sounding great, but the consensus in our house was that Jackie's story on NJ was a lot more affecting and educational than Crystal's.

Okay but different people are different. And for one thing, this has been only one episode whereas Jackie's efforts were over a whole season. In any case, I see no reason to compare the two, I just hope that both women deal with it in ways that are healthy. 

My sense re Erika is that she thought she was bonding with Crystal without really understanding that what she was describing was her own dysfunctional relationship with food. 

[Lassus]

1 minute ago, RoseAllDay said:

I don’t watch NJ, so I’m not familiar, but different people express things or share in different ways? 

In fairness to Crystal, Jackie's was a much longer tale and concentrated on a lot more.  

[Lassus]

5 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Okay but different people are different. And for one thing, this has been only one episode whereas Jackie's efforts were over a whole season. In any case, I see no reason to compare the two, I just hope that both women deal with it in ways that are healthy. 

I know.  It's an opinion (ours) that maybe didn't need to be expressed, but as it's an anonymous forum for weird-ass impressions of an insane entertainment and cultural phenomenon (reality TV) it seemed notable I guess.  

Edited July 21, 2022 by Lassus

[RoseAllDay]

6 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Okay but different people are different. And for one thing, this has been only one episode whereas Jackie's efforts were over a whole season. In any case, I see no reason to compare the two, I just hope that both women deal with it in ways that are healthy. 

My sense re Erika is that she thought she was bonding with Crystal without really understanding that what she was describing was her own dysfunctional relationship with food. 

Yes. This, especially now that I’ve had time to think about it and read other perspectives.

She is indeed a very messed-up person.

[RoseAllDay]

Maybe this has already been posted somewhere, but….https://heavy.com/entertainment/real-housewives/diana-jenkins-licking-lips/

Lip fillers? OCD? Chapped lips? A tic?

One comment — “I think it’s the lip filler, the stretching of her lips numbs the nerves in her lips and she’s licking them check they’re still attached.”

Why, oh why, (I ask innocently) do people want big, freakish lips? I thought Rinna’s were bad…

(Me, I’m laughing at the look on Andy’s face in the pic with the article.)

[Baltimore Betty]

1 minute ago, RoseAllDay said:

Maybe this has already been posted somewhere, but….https://heavy.com/entertainment/real-housewives/diana-jenkins-licking-lips/

Lip fillers? OCD? Chapped lips? A tic?

One comment — “I think it’s the lip filler, the stretching of her lips numbs the nerves in her lips and she’s licking them check they’re still attached.”

Why, oh why, (I ask innocently) do people want big, freakish lips? I thought Rinna’s were bad…

(Me, I’m laughing at the look on Andy’s face in the pic with the article.)

Maybe it is a side effect from using Lips by Rinna lip kits.

[JonnieUniteUs]

9 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

I could not stop laughing at Dorit's over the top reactions to everything Jamie Lee Curtis showed her to get donations. It's so chic!

“The thermal cup keeps things hot AND cold?!  Amazing!”

Edit: catching up on this thread and just saw SisterMagpie’s comment 😅

Edited July 21, 2022 by JonnieUniteUs

[Hiyo]

“Its bloody witchcraft!”

[TV Diva Queen]

Random:

Kathy 100% has Kyle blocked on her phone.  Purposely or not....she's blocked.  

The ornament drink is so Tiktok Christmas 2020.  I did that for my Christmas dinner that year and huge flop

Love that Kyle had Kroger Club Soda and last week I noticed the costco hand soap on her island in the kitchen

Yes Dorit - its keeps the drink hot or cold.  There was a comedian in the 70's (I want to say Flip Wilson, but not sure) that did a joke about it and the punch line was "how do it know"  (in regard on how to keep which beverage at which temp).  

[Surrealist]

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Best in Show, A Mighty Wind, Waiting for Guffman, For Your Consideration...absolutely my favorite movies, so effing funny.  Why didn't JLC ever get a role in his movies?

Fun fact: JLC is a Baroness through her marriage to Christopher Guest.

[JonnieUniteUs]

1 hour ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

But I suspect that the whole luncheon was a bit of a scheme cooked up by JLC, Kyle and hospital staff to do just what it did - spur Diana (and others) to donate. I don't think Diana was specifically the target or anything but the idea here was Kyle and JLC being public in their support means others in their circle - and perhaps members of the viewing audience - will also be compelled to donate. And it's all for a good cause, so no harm, no foul.

Agree.  While it may look tacky that Kyle announces the amount of her gift, many charities encourage people to do that to spur matches.  It can be uncomfortable to (some) initial givers, but it does seems to work, often in the matching aspect.

if she would have gone too high, perhaps no one would have matched it and it could have looked way too showy.

[Keywestclubkid]

Dorit hearing it keeps things hot AND cold was LOL 

Edited July 21, 2022 by Keywestclubkid

[JonnieUniteUs]

10 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

Maybe this has already been posted somewhere, but….https://heavy.com/entertainment/real-housewives/diana-jenkins-licking-lips/

“Since the new RHOBH star debuted on the show, there have been several threads on Reddit dedicated to the subject, including a drinking game that has asked fans to take a drink every time Jenkins is seen on screen licking her lips.”
 

😃

Edited July 21, 2022 by JonnieUniteUs
I didn’t put in quote marks when I copied from the article 😬

[SnarkAttack]

30 minutes ago, RoseAllDay said:

Maybe this has already been posted somewhere, but….https://heavy.com/entertainment/real-housewives/diana-jenkins-licking-lips/

Lip fillers? OCD? Chapped lips? A tic?

One comment — “I think it’s the lip filler, the stretching of her lips numbs the nerves in her lips and she’s licking them check they’re still attached.”

Why, oh why, (I ask innocently) do people want big, freakish lips? I thought Rinna’s were bad…

(Me, I’m laughing at the look on Andy’s face in the pic with the article.)

It's a symbol of youth and a sexual thing.  Some women have taken it waaay too far.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

1 minute ago, JonnieUniteUs said:

Agree.  While it may look tacky that Kyle announces the amount of her gift, many charities encourage people to do that to spur matches.  It can be uncomfortable to (some) initial givers, but it does seems to work, often in the matching aspect.

if she would have gone too high, perhaps no one would have matched it and it could have looked way too showy.

Yes, I had the same thought - $25,000 is a reasonable amount to a lot of the people she hangs out with. Too much higher and it's a disincentive to matching.

And clearly JLC's driving people to her business was part of the plan here, since 100 percent of the profits go to the hospital. So this was all just about Kyle and JLC using the show for the benefit of the hospital (again, I am fine with that).

Re Dorit - everyone is talking about it being a Thermos but I was like, "Dorit, it's a go cup for like coffee. I own like six of them. JLC's look nice and all but this technology has been around for a while."

[Hiyo]

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including a drinking game that has asked fans to take a drink every time Jenkins is seen on screen licking her lips.

You'd end up drunker than Ericka.

[Keywestclubkid]

2 minutes ago, Hiyo said:

You'd end up drunker than Ericka.

And screaming GTFO to random neighborhood kids walking by LOL 

[SweetieDarling]

1 hour ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

But I suspect that the whole luncheon was a bit of a scheme cooked up by JLC, Kyle and hospital staff to do just what it did - spur Diana (and others) to donate. I don't think Diana was specifically the target or anything but the idea here was Kyle and JLC being public in their support means others in their circle - and perhaps members of the viewing audience - will also be compelled to donate. And it's all for a good cause, so no harm, no foul.

I am a bit confused as to what made that a "charity luncheon. " Were the women supposed to donate, and the amount of their donation would determine what gift(s) they receive -like a PBS fund drive? Were they supposed to purchase those items and the proceeds go to the hospital? Was Kyle's $25k donation the premium for getting JLC to show up for lunch at her house?

And, $25k Kyle? That's all she could afford? I know of people that spend that much on sunglasses!

[RoseAllDay]

21 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Dorit hearing it keeps things hot AND cold was LOL 

What a world! 

And what an impression Dorit probably made on JLC….

[SweetieDarling]

These women are the worst actors. It's fairly obvious that Kyle and Dorit spoke beforehand and plotted and planned the day's agenda:

First Kyle plans to seat Diana and Sutton next to each other (plan foiled)

Plan B:

Kyle: Dorit -you, quietly and very obviously, ask Diana about the lunch. After we eat, I'll distract Diana, and Crystal, Erika will be at the bar,...You walk over to Sutton and ask about the luncheon. After a designated time, I'll lead the other ladies to where you are, and we'll ask what you're talking about, then pretend to be surprised, and ask how it went. Cue the next round of fighting that distracts from the awful people the rest of us are.

We know Rinna would not have stood by for a peaceful resolution. Thank goodness she wasn't able to attend.

Fortunately, Sutton is getting better at navigating the shark infested water.

Edited July 21, 2022 by SweetieDarling

[Keywestclubkid]

1 minute ago, RoseAllDay said:

What a world! 

And what an impression Dorit probably made on JLC….

LOL like girl IF we can tell you are ass kissing then she definitely can .. Dial it back Ms Connecticut 

[Lassus]

45 minutes ago, TV Diva Queen said:

The ornament drink is so Tiktok Christmas 2020.  I did that for my Christmas dinner that year and huge flop

I'm going to out myself as whatever kind of rube by saying I thought the decorative ornament cocktail was just about the only thing I liked about that party.  It was in 2nd place behind Crystal's dress as things at that party that looked good.  There was no 3rd place. 

Diana's dress was straight out of the bottom three of the early seasons of Project Runway No-stars season 4.

[Slakkie]

What I do not get is Erika says horrific stuff to Crystal with an eating disorder and we have to give her "grace" because "she does not know" yet Sutton and something she said was "dark."

Am I the only one that sees the hypocrisy of Crystal in this?  Telling someone with an eating disorder to grab a laxative is insane.  I also have struggled with food and if I eat too much my mind triggers me to vomit.  I literally broke out in a cold sweat to think about waiting for a laxative to get the food OUT.

Now for some without an ED this may sound really weird but I totally got Crystal - when you eat something that is a trigger food you want it but then you have to have it gone and until it is gone it consumes your entire world.

I feel like she did not want to confront Erika knowing what a nasty viper she is - had Sutton said this the hounds of hell would have come down. Hell even Garcelle telling her how skinny she looked was ignored.

Eating disorders have nothing to do with what you look like - it is a personal issue between a person and food.  And it does not matter how smart or how much money you fave - you cannot take a pill like Erika and be "cured"

[chlban]

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

If Kathy had done hollowed out new potatoes with caviar, etc... with a salad or some sort of green veggie that would be more of a lunch for me.  I do think it is funny we are getting these meals that make the HW's question "is that all there is?" Sutton served just a salad with shrimp, now we have a baked potato and Diana's chicken nuggets.

Don't get me wrong, just to be clear I love a baked potato with all the toppings, especially caviar, I love a salad with grilled shrimp and chicken nuggets too.  I guess I look to these shows for a little party food porn along with houses, jewelry, clothes, etc...

I think of salad as a perfectly acceptable lunch and I doubt these women ever eat much more than that. What, Rinna is going to eat a sandwich with fries? Not likely.

[TV Diva Queen]

6 minutes ago, Lassus said:

I'm going to out myself as whatever kind of rube by saying I thought the decorative ornament cocktail was just about the only thing I liked about that party.  It was in 2nd place behind Crystal's dress as things at that party that looked good.  There was no 3rd place. 

Diana's dress was straight out of the bottom three of the early seasons of Project Runway No-stars season 4.

don't get me wrong, its as cute as sh*t. but its a pain to fill, awkward to drink and it works for the welcome drink, but really nothing else.  

[MaggieG]

They showed a quick shot of Kathy's brand manager and I wonder how many times a day that poor woman has to go searching for Kathy's phone. Also, a person peed on her sofa?? I can't with Kathy's "kooky" act. 

Erika had a full on meltdown last season when Garcelle mentioned she still talks to Tom. And here she is admitting that she still talks to Tom. I hope Crystal realizes Erika is not her friend. 100% if Sutton had been saying the things that Erika had been saying, the coven would be all over her. Also, Kyle is allowed to empathize with Crystal because she also had and ED but Sutton is not allowed to empathize with Diana about her miscarriage? These women.... 

[Straycat80]

3 minutes ago, MaggieG said:

They showed a quick shot of Kathy's brand manager and I wonder how many times a day that poor woman has to go searching for Kathy's phone. Also, a person peed on her sofa?? I can't with Kathy's "kooky" act. 

I’m not buying the kooky act. I’ve seen her on talk shows and back in the day her own reality show and she came across as articulate and intelligent. So this is all an act for the show, plus she’s not that old yet  (63). Kyle talks to her like she’s senile already. 
I remember her daughter Paris admitting in an interview that she did that dumbed down act on her show because she thought people would find it cute and funny. She was wrong, it’s annoying. 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

34 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

I am a bit confused as to what made that a "charity luncheon. " Were the women supposed to donate, and the amount of their donation would determine what gift(s) they receive -like a PBS fund drive? Were they supposed to purchase those items and the proceeds go to the hospital? Was Kyle's $25k donation the premium for getting JLC to show up for lunch at her house?

And, $25k Kyle? That's all she could afford? I know of people that spend that much on sunglasses!

I think that the luncheon was actually more of a "friend raiser" than fundraiser. It's a pretty common tactic in the non-profit world to have a donor host an event where they invite friends to learn more about their particular charity without a particular expectation that said friends will donate to the charity at that time but at some point in the future. It's a way to extend their network. 

I mean, all of them - and JLC - understand that they are on a TV show. JLC was using this as some free advertising for her company, whose profits go to the hospital. She wasn't expecting them to purchase the goods. She's expecting that people like us will purchase the goods.

Finally, as noted above, yes, probably Kyle could afford to donate more. But again, this was probably as much about inducing matching donations as it was anything else and going higher than that would probably actually disincentivize matching donations. 

[For Cereals]

10 hours ago, CSunshine76 said:

it wasn’t products, it was promo materials! 

Where I used to work, there was a purchasing team dedicated to just promotions and they called the category T&T-trinkets and trash.

All these women are tone deaf except maybe Crystal.  Wondering if Bravo needs to have sensitivity training for the different franchises  since they are technically coworkers just to bring them into the present…and film it.  

[Chatty Cake]

3 hours ago, Lassus said:

I guess there's no way to make this come out sounding great, but the consensus in our house was that Jackie's story on NJ was a lot more affecting and educational than Crystal's.

I find Crystal more authentic. I can’t forget Jackie sitting with her kids “me try to eat ice cream for camera” 

I think Crystal shows that it will always come and go. 
What was the bit at the end with Erika telling Crystal she can’t have a chicken tender? Calling attention to her eating at an event was beyond rude. 

Edited July 21, 2022 by Chatty Cake

[Baltimore Betty]

47 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

I am a bit confused as to what made that a "charity luncheon. " Were the women supposed to donate, and the amount of their donation would determine what gift(s) they receive -like a PBS fund drive? Were they supposed to purchase those items and the proceeds go to the hospital? Was Kyle's $25k donation the premium for getting JLC to show up for lunch at her house?

And, $25k Kyle? That's all she could afford? I know of people that spend that much on sunglasses!

It does not seem like a lot of money from someone who spends that much or more for a bag to hang on their arm but that $25,000 might be the second or third donation Kyle had made that year.

True story, my SIL & BIL have crazy deep pockets, they became involved in a very good cause, they donated a lot of money and probably got their other deep pocketed friends to do so as well, the organization had a big gala event to honor them, tickets were $500 each (no word on the menu, chicken nuggets, baked potato, who knows), she sent me the invite to the gala, no advance warning about their philanthropic endeavors prior to my seeing the invite (the shindig was in Chicago), I had no plans to go...the invite came with information on how to donate, I was not moved to donate to that cause and wouldn't you know I got a somewhat nasty email from her trying to shame me about how I have not donated, actually she included another family member in that shame email.  I called her on it, told her what I thought and then donated a nice amount...it felt hollow to donate, I was bullied in to it.  Asking people to donate to a cause that is near and dear to your heart is fine but don't expect everyone to do so.  Diana was the only one who volunteered to write a check and the other women just sat there feeling a bit awkward, I wonder if they sent in a donation later on.  For the record, I received neither a leash, a wind chime (so random, right?), a license plate frame (yeah, those women are thinking like that would go on my fancy car), or anything. I would think the swag for that hospital would be a bit more impressive if only for that luncheon. By the looks of it all the women got the bag o' swag whether they donated or not. Dorit is easily entertained, isn't she.

Also, I always thought donating to charity should be a private matter but what do I know, I only respond to being shamed.

So now I wonder, should I send my SIL a donation request for my charity, The Human Fund?

[eleanorofaquitaine]

12 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

It does not seem like a lot of money from someone who spends that much or more for a bag to hang on their arm but that $25,000 might be the second or third donation Kyle had made that year.

True story, my SIL & BIL have crazy deep pockets, they became involved in a very good cause, they donated a lot of money and probably got their other deep pocketed friends to do so as well, the organization had a big gala event to honor them, tickets were $500 each (no word on the menu, chicken nuggets, baked potato, who knows), she sent me the invite to the gala, no advance warning about their philanthropic endeavors prior to my seeing the invite (the shindig was in Chicago), I had no plans to go...the invite came with information on how to donate, I was not moved to donate to that cause and wouldn't you know I got a somewhat nasty email from her trying to shame me about how I have not donated, actually she included another family member in that shame email.  I called her on it, told her what I thought and then donated a nice amount...it felt hollow to donate, I was bullied in to it.  Asking people to donate to a cause that is near and dear to your heart is fine but don't expect everyone to do so.  Diana was the only one who volunteered to write a check and the other women just sat there feeling a bit awkward, I wonder if they sent in a donation later on.  For the record, I received neither a leash, a wind chime (so random, right?), a license plate frame (yeah, those women are thinking like that would go on my fancy car), or anything. I would think the swag for that hospital would be a bit more impressive if only for that luncheon. By the looks of it all the women got the bag o' swag whether they donated or not. Dorit is easily entertained, isn't she.

Also, I always thought donating to charity should be a private matter but what do I know, I only respond to being shamed.

So now I wonder, should I send my SIL a donation request for my charity, The Human Fund?

This belief, in fact, often ends up hurting charities because the fact is that a lot of people are induced to donate because of word-of-mouth among their peers or because they heard of someone with a high profile donating to a charity.

Now, it sounds like your family members attempted to strong-arm you into donating and that is also not appropriate. But the fact is that a lot of people with means want to give money anonymously not so much because they are humble but more because they don't want to be asked by other non-profits to donate. (Which, I mean, is their right. But the appeal to privacy from people with deep pockets is often less altruistic than it seems at first glance).

Of all the things to criticize Kyle for, IMO, her using her platform to raise money for a children's hospital is not among them. 

Edited July 21, 2022 by eleanorofaquitaine

[Surrealist]

I like JLC but the hand swat at Sutton was kind of abrupt. No one needs to swat at or hit someone. I don't think it was intentional, but took me back a bit.

That said JLC, as she was leaving, told Sutton "Good luck," so I'm sure she kind of knew what was up there.

2 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

These women are the worst actors. It's fairly obvious that Kyle and Dorit spoke beforehand and plotted and planned the day's agenda:

First Kyle plans to seat Diana and Sutton next to each other (plan foiled)

Plan B:

Kyle: Dorit -you, quietly and very obviously, ask Diana about the lunch. After we eat, I'll distract Diana, and Crystal, Erika will be at the bar,...You walk over to Sutton and ask about the luncheon. After a designated time, I'll lead the other ladies to where you are, and we'll ask what you're talking about, then pretend to be surprised, and ask how it went. Cue the next round of fighting that distracts from the awful people the rest of us are.

We know Rinna would not have stood by for a peaceful resolution. Thank goodness she wasn't able to attend.

Fortunately, Sutton is getting better at navigating the shark infested water.

I even agreed with Diana (!!!) when she said "Awkward" when Dorit started up about the lunch.

Edited July 21, 2022 by Surrealist

[Surrealist]

1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Dorit hearing it keeps things hot AND cold was LOL 

And, sometimes, hot becomes warm then becomes cold!

[Surrealist]

53 minutes ago, MaggieG said:

Erika had a full on meltdown last season when Garcelle mentioned she still talks to Tom. And here she is admitting that she still talks to Tom. I hope Crystal realizes Erika is not her friend. 100% if Sutton had been saying the things that Erika had been saying, the coven would be all over her. Also, Kyle is allowed to empathize with Crystal because she also had and ED but Sutton is not allowed to empathize with Diana about her miscarriage? These women.... 

This is my biggest problem with these women. The hypocrisy over who is allowed to say and do whatever, but someone else gets maligned for the same.

[Hiyo]

I only wish they had been filming when Dorit learned where ice came from, and how it is made.

[Surrealist]

4 minutes ago, Hiyo said:

I only wish they had been filming when Dorit learned where ice came from, and how it is made.

A Dorit spinoff where she's just impressed by everything, and it's all "So chic!"

[ivygirl]

2 hours ago, TV Diva Queen said:

Love that Kyle had Kroger Club Soda and last week I noticed the costco hand soap on her island in the kitchen

I saw Trader Joe’s sparkling water on her bar last week and had the same thought. 

48 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

I think that the luncheon was actually more of a "friend raiser" than fundraiser. It's a pretty common tactic in the non-profit world to have a donor host an event where they invite friends to learn more about their particular charity without a particular expectation that said friends will donate to the charity at that time but at some point in the future. It's a way to extend their network. 

I mean, all of them - and JLC - understand that they are on a TV show. JLC was using this as some free advertising for her company, whose profits go to the hospital. She wasn't expecting them to purchase the goods. She's expecting that people like us will purchase the goods.

Finally, as noted above, yes, probably Kyle could afford to donate more. But again, this was probably as much about inducing matching donations as it was anything else and going higher than that would probably actually disincentivize matching donations. 

I work for a NP and haven’t heard the term “friendraiser” before—I kinda like it!

And I agree with you on the point about matching gifts—I can see it being disincentivizing for the givers (“My small gift would not mean much towards this $1 million effort”) and the matcher—from what I’ve seen, the people who put out match challenges are already big donors, and it’s on top of what they already give.

So the $25,000 didn’t seem all that bad of a goal to me, even considering the audience at the lunch. 

(I do however still stand amazed at Dorit… has she not seen a 4imprint commercial?)

3 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

A Dorit spinoff where she's just impressed by everything, and it's all "So chic!"

Get her on QVC! She’d be perfect! 🤣

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Diana may have money but she has no warmth or style and neither does her home. That place looked like Malfoy Manor after a holiday troll puked all over it. It's that whole "you can put lipstick on a pig" thing. No wonder Ericka likes Diana so much - Diana's home is inherently cold!

I loved the ornament drink (that was about it) and most of the ladies' fashion choices. Diana always looks dour and drab, however.

Crystal does need to seek professional help if she wants to change her mindset and stop purging. That group is no NJ - their version of "empathy" is to swap their own methods of staying slim, all of which amount to some level of food noise at best and their own EDs at worst. I'll echo the poster above who noted that many times, "help" starts to look like a comparison and competition as to who stayed skinny the healthiest/stealthiest/most dramatic way. 

I don't think Erika was trying to be mean - I think this was a clumsy, tipsy attempt at connection - but this is why going public and crowd-sourcing such issues without professional support can lead to disastrous results. Erika was trying of offer friendship but what Crystal got out of it was another method of disordered eating/purging. 

It sure as hell ain't 95% Sutton's fault that Diana is a miserable, joy-sucking she-beast, but she sees the writing on the wall. Diffusing a situation is sometimes best and keeps you sane. I really don't ever want to see Diana after this season. She drags the whole show down. 

The charity featured tonight is a worthy cause and hats off to Jamie Lee and Kyle for taking such a big role in the new building, but I think Diana matched the donation as an alpha move to assert dominance and establish status - nothing more. 

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38 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

A Dorit spinoff where she's just impressed by everything, and it's all "So chic!"

Just who was she trying to impress with the wide-eyed fangirl “golly gee, oh wow, how amazing” act? If it was JLC, epic fail. I was embarrassed for her, watching that. It was all pretty much promotional, goody bag stuff anyway, not stuff you’d find on your seat at the Oscars.

(Since I’m here, I have to say I liked the sweater Kyle wore to Kathy’s.)