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6 hours ago, chocolatine said:

Kylie posted her first photo with her daughter. 

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It looks like she's holding someone else's baby and can't wait to hand her back to her parents. And with those fangs I'm sure she's not changing a single diaper.

It’s physically impossible to change newborn diapers with these claws. Their diaper area is so delicate and small... Just no! And she couldn’t change Stormi’s onesie with them either, or put her into cute outfits... 

This leads me to believe she’s not a hands on mother at all. I hope the baby has nice nannies to bond with.

Kylie couldn’t look more bored in this picture.

Usually, new moms have a loving/ beaming face when they’re holding their babies (even if they’re sleep deprived and physically miserable). Kylie’s eyes look dead. She doesn’t show any closeness to her daughter. She holds her like she’s holding her neighbors cat. Poor Stormi.

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26 minutes ago, Aw my lahgs said:

Usually, new moms have a loving/ beaming face when they’re holding their babies (even if they’re sleep deprived and physically miserable). Kylie’s eyes look dead. She doesn’t show any closeness to her daughter. She holds her like she’s holding her neighbors cat. Poor Stormi.

I know and it is sad and hard to understand. She doesn’t know any other way. She learned from her own Momager and older sisters.

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On 2.03.2018 г. at 2:18 AM, chocolatine said:

Kylie posted her first photo with her daughter. 

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It looks like she's holding someone else's baby and can't wait to hand her back to her parents. And with those fangs I'm sure she's not changing a single diaper.

Every time I see a photo of her, I feel like she has a completely different face, I can't recognize her. Like I ran into some old pictures of her (taken within a few months) and I don't know whether she always looked different because her hair was a new color/length every day or because of all the re-touching, but unless her name pops up, I would never think it was her.

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On 2/2/2018 at 1:06 PM, NicoleQueen said:

I'm still on season 7 of KUWTK but I wanted to write in here after reading the thread.

Before I actually got to "know" the KarJenner clan, Kylie was the sister who was completely unknown to me and so I considered her to be the most normal of the bunch and least fame-driven but how quickly my perception changed... I simply can't believe the existence of such a person, even amidst a family that is famous for being famous.

Some people are sympathetic to Kylie for having the misfortune of living among people driven solely by fame and money, citing her family as the reason she is insecure and has body dysmorphia. Now, I consider this a very serious problem and kids' worldview can be warped beyond reason by their parents/loved ones. But I also don't think that just because you are born in "sickness" and your family is "sick", that you have to be "sick" as well. Once Kylie was 18, she had considerable funds to break away from her family's (Kris' in particular) influence and find her own identity and purpose. She has the means to educate herself (not speaking just high school/college), to see the world and the people who live in it, to reevalute her experiences. If she feels anxious for this and that, she can seek professional help. If she doesn't like "haters" commenting on her screaming-for-attention selfies, she can stop posting them. If she doesn't want to be viewed only for her bank acount and fame but as an actual human (which I strongly doubt), she shouldn't be throwing money at people who are obviously only with her because they know they are going to get financially supported.

I don't think she is at fault for growing up the way she did (giving what her parental control and support were), but I do believe every person can have some common sense and realise that perhaps something in their life is not the way it should be, that it doesn't make them happy. We constantly develop as people so it's not like she has to be forever locked in this state of mind.

Whatever we comment about her older sisters, I think that they were comparatively luckier in that they had much more normal childhood/teenage years, got to at least graduate high school and even get a college degree or two, have a normal job in the DASH store and Kim did a lot of work into building her brand, from which everyone in the family got the rub. Kylie, on the other hand, while she seemed like a happy and normal kid in the first seasons, has apparently "broken down" from that lifestyle and is literally showing the consequences now. She was supposed to be a "two for the price of one" deal with Kendall but she ended up eating her dust; when I see the Kendall + Kylie collections, I always feel like they just slapped Kylie's name there just so she can have some "achievement". Her cosmetics line has made a ridiculous amount of money on nothing but name recognition and I highly doubt that Kylie has had any substantial role in anything regarding "her business" (the most she has done most likely is just choosing colors).

The others in the KarJenner clan and their supporting casts have at least one (semi) redeemable quality or are just entertaining on reality show level, but Kylie is the actual KenDULL (Kendall is at least in the modeling business which I think would be fairly interesting to see in a reality show). Absolutely nothing of interest with her, no personality at the moment (she was the more memorable between her and Kendall the first few seasons - after I could differentiate between their faces - because she was outgoing and had some life in her), no desire to improve herself (and I definitely don't mean her body), nothing but selfies. I actually laughed for five minutes straight when I heard that Life of Kylie was a thing because it seemed like the most boring television ever produced.

I truly can't see anything positive in this girl and yet I see heaps of young girls proclaiming her their "queen" (though I suppose King is more appropriate) and bow to her as if there is a drought and she has to water their crops. I can sorta see why Kendall can be considered an idol - she may not have worked hard to get into the modeling business, but she is working hard in it now and millions of girls would love to be so successful as models. But why the hell would they be delusional enough to think that Kylie has done anything deserving of praise? As I already mentioned, I don't think she has worked much even on the cosmetics line carrying her name, the same line that millions have bought (and most of them probably used their parents' credit cards cause Kylie used to do that too!!! #goals) not because of quality but because of brand recognition that Kylie has barely put her back into. Why young girls are so delusional as to think that Kylie hasn't had plastic surgery, it's just really good make-up!!! (She should have went on to become a make-up artist so that the world can move on from plastic surgery.) Why Kylie pretends that she kept her surgeries a secret because she doesn't want her young fans and their parents to think badly of her? If you really care about people's opinion of you, you wouldn't have done them in the first place (even if Kris signed her agreement, is there really no way to prevent it?) or you wouldn't be posting your ass on social media. If Kylie cared about sending a positive message, she would have said "Fuck it, I don't want to destroy myself to look like Kim!". There comes a point when you see the negative effects plastic surgery has on you and then you can do nothing but cry over spilled milk.

I don't get why she had dogs she clearly doesn't take care of and I especially don't get why the hell she has decided to give birth to and "raise" a child. I truly believe this kid will have it the worst out of the KarJenner offspring. Kylie had it pretty bad but her kid will have it even worse with a someone like her for a mother. I do hope though that motherhood might give Kylie a bit of a boost to open her eyes to the real world and the real valuables, which are not implants and selfies.

I think the girls that adore Kylie just buy into that she has a glamorous lifestyle that fell into her lap and therefore they can also become millionaires with slutty pictures on IG.  Her fans are not the brightest and don't understand the manipulation behind the image.

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29 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

My first thought was Stormi looks like a mix of Kylie, Tyga and Dream. Travis might want to get a paternity test on this one. Surprisingly cute baby, though:

 

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I wonder what else the filter does besides add those yellow things (what are they?) to the picture? Her eyes look abnormally large & her lashes seem to be too visible. If they want to post pictures of their kids, why can't they do it without a filter?

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17 hours ago, Juliegirlj said:

Kylie’s body language indicates there’s not much emotional connection to her baby in this pic. It would be almost impossible to bathe, diaper or dress an infant with talons like that. Guess that answers any questions about who is doing the hands on care of the babe. 

Kylie’s hands look swollen. 

I think she had probably already posed for for 300 shots before they got the one they wanted (fussy moving baby etc) and she’s over it.  

I was reading another Kylie forum full of raging nail enthusiasts who swear you can do anything with nails much longer.  I will take their word for it.  

I agree about the swollen hands, around the knuckles.  I had a weird theory but now after seeing pic of Stormi as compared to kylie, I’m believing it more and more.

im thinking kylie did have the baby earlier than February.  The baby seems bigger than a one month old, a lot more plumped out, and I too had a baby born 8 lbs 9 oz.  I’m saying the baby looks 3 months old already.  and remember the tmz video of Kylie at that construction site days or weeks before she had the baby?  She didn’t look that big.  I think they messed with the baby birth timeline to give Kylie extra time to get her body back, but make it look like she snapped back in a few weeks, and also hide that she probably got pregnant on the second date with Travis or something.

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On ‎3‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 11:02 PM, AntAnn said:

I know and it is sad and hard to understand. She doesn’t know any other way. She learned from her own Momager and older sisters.

I have zero sympathy.  There are lots of people in the real world who grew up under much tougher circumstances - through abuse, poverty, addiction, discrimination.  Yet they thrive by making a conscious effort to break the cycle.  I see no such effort from her what so ever - even though she complains about not being comfortable being in the public eye.

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2 hours ago, TheVoicesToldMeTo said:

I think she had probably already posed for for 300 shots before they got the one they wanted (fussy moving baby etc) and she’s over it.  

I was reading another Kylie forum full of raging nail enthusiasts who swear you can do anything with nails much longer.  I will take their word for it.  

I agree about the swollen hands, around the knuckles.  I had a weird theory but now after seeing pic of Stormi as compared to kylie, I’m believing it more and more.

im thinking kylie did have the baby earlier than February.  The baby seems bigger than a one month old, a lot more plumped out, and I too had a baby born 8 lbs 9 oz.  I’m saying the baby looks 3 months old already.  and remember the tmz video of Kylie at that construction site days or weeks before she had the baby?  She didn’t look that big.  I think they messed with the baby birth timeline to give Kylie extra time to get her body back, but make it look like she snapped back in a few weeks, and also hide that she probably got pregnant on the second date with Travis or something.

Yes I totally think that too, the baby looks much older than one month!

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

Pretty much every comment I've read across every forum has said the baby looks way too alert and filled out to only be a month old.

My guess is Kylie got knocked up the first night she banged Travis and they fudged the birth date to make her appear slightly more respectable. 

Respectable! The family needs way more than a fudged date of conception to be respectable. 

But then they don’t care about respectability. Only money and fame. 

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Maybe her position and the baby against her - but I wouldn’t be surprised if Kylie wanted people to think about it.

This family makes me feel like Prudence the Prude. 
I'm all for breastfeeding and being organic yada yada yada.

But how many people have had a baby you are holding innocently "root"?

Dressed like that, it wouldn't be that difficult for a positive latch.

Ewwww.

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5 hours ago, TheVoicesToldMeTo said:

Not all babies can latch properly and a lot of moms give up nursing at that point.  

Breastfeeding is a learning curve for both mom and baby. Kylie has access to the best lactation consultants money can buy. So there’s no reason she couldn’t try if she wanted to. Alternatively, she could express breastmilk with an electric breast pump regularly and bottle feed the baby expressed breastmilk instead of nursing if she truly wanted to breastfeed.

27 minutes ago, Aw my lahgs said:

Breastfeeding is a learning curve for both mom and baby. Kylie has access to the best lactation consultants money can buy. So there’s no reason she couldn’t try if she wanted to. Alternatively, she could express breastmilk with an electric breast pump regularly and bottle feed the baby expressed breastmilk instead of nursing if she truly wanted to breastfeed.

Didn't Kourtney breastfeed her children? So it's not like Kylie wasn't exposed to the work that goes into breastfeeding.

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8 minutes ago, carolinagirl81 said:

Didn't Kourtney breastfeed her children? So it's not like Kylie wasn't exposed to the work that goes into breastfeeding.

Didn’t one of the girls ask another to breast feed their kid?  This family is too fucking weird with boundaries. I recall when Mason was a newborn and Kim was kissing him full on the mouth, not just quick kisses either, it was like she was giving him mouth to mouth. 

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