S06.E08: Talk to the Braids

[TexasGal]

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After an explosive confrontation in Williamsburg, tension is at an all-time high between Wendy and the Green Eyed Bandits. As hostess, Candiace hopes the ladies of the Estate and Cottage can twerk it out. Back home, Ashley hopes Michael is going to be a more attentive husband and father. Karen is inducted as the ambassador of Surry County and during her acceptance speech she reveals some surprising news.

Airdate: 08.29.2021

[Axie]

Awe!  Look at Michael trying to act not all horrible and creepy and everything!

[Vanderboom]

Oh, dear . . . Ashley and her low-ass expectations of Michael. She's acts so pleasantly surprised that he doesn't punt the baby into traffic or something. 🙄

[bosawks]

I can’t stand Michael but his sock game is on point.

[bosawks]

Well, this is making me actually believe Mia and that she definitely was NOT a stripper/dancer.

Edited August 30, 2021 by bosawks

[FlyingEgret]

5 minutes ago, bosawks said:

Well, this is making actually believe Mia and that she definitely was NOT a stripper/dancer.

But it is also making me believe she was not an "entertainer" - I am flummoxed as to what she was...

[bosawks]

1 minute ago, FlyingEgret said:

But it is also making me believe she was not an "entertainer" - I am flummoxed as to what she was...

Friendly…

[Keywestclubkid]

Wendy girl .... whatever it is going on with you for you to be acting like .. well was all of last year one big lie and this is who you really are or?  

[spunky]

Curated Equal needs to give Candiace a raise, sis making sure she's seen on camera in their lounge wear. 

The ladies audtioning for "Drive Back" was hilarious. Did Mia leave her dance moves at the five star restaurant/bar/ gentleman's club?

I like Wendy a lot, but she was being immature at the pool. I know Candiace said in an interview that we're seeing more of the "real Wendy".  I find it hard to believe that someone as accomplished as Wendy would be so immature. 

[bosawks]

Does Karen’s key to the county make her a countess?

Does RHONY Lu have competition?

[Keywestclubkid]

Mia is to messy ..she gets caught lying so quickly 

[Ms.Lulu]

Love Candiace being the voice of reason and calling Gizelle out for being mean.

[Baltimore Betty]

1 hour ago, FlyingEgret said:

But it is also making me believe she was not an "entertainer" - I am flummoxed as to what she was...

Maybe she was just a coat check girl at the strip club?

[Baltimore Betty]

1 hour ago, bosawks said:

I can’t stand Michael but his sock game is on point.

I noticed them too.

For my husband's birthday last year his cousin gave him a sock of the month club, gorgeous designed socks and the packaging is great, comes with a card listing the colors that particular sock matches, Michael's socks reminded me of a pair my husband had gotten.

Ashley and Michael's apartment may stretch on for miles but all we see is that tiny perpetually cluttered (even before kids), living room and no other spaces, I wonder why that is.

 

[Baltimore Betty]

51 minutes ago, bosawks said:

Does Karen’s key to the county make her a countess?

Does RHONY Lu have competition?

That ceremony left a little to be desired, six people and she needed a microphone, lol.

Why did Ray feel like that was the perfect time to announce La Dame's new business ventures?  The candle announcement was hilarious, Karen saying her candles are much different than Wendy's because she will have three wicks and Wendy has one, oh so different.

[eXiled]

1 minute ago, Baltimore Betty said:

That ceremony left a little to be desired, six people and she needed a microphone, lol.

Why did Ray feel like that was the perfect time to announce La Dame's new business ventures?  The candle announcement was hilarious, Karen saying her candles are much different than Wendy's because she will have three wicks and Wendy has one, oh so different.

[Stats Queen]

These new candle entrepreneurs crack me up. Why, oh why do three of them have new candle lines? It’s not a new market. 

I am now planning to launch a 5 wick candle line …

When I was a kid, I made candles with molds, wax and a double boiler (In retrospect, they were ugly).

Why is it that my mom who wouldn’t teach me to cook (when I asked she said “go set the table”) was fine with me making this mess all over the kitchen is still a mystery.

Edited August 30, 2021 by Stats Queen

[goofygirl]

1 hour ago, FlyingEgret said:

But it is also making me believe she was not an "entertainer" - I am flummoxed as to what she was...

Hooker.

[eXiled]

Mia made up a whole verse and stuck it in Gizelle's mouth. Didn't even sound right cuz that's not even the way Giz talks when she's being messy. I don't ever recall her calling another howife out her name -- not even Monique. I'm glad Wendy didn't go for it.

[truthaboutluv]

1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Mia is to messy ..she gets caught lying so quickly 

Which just makes it that much more entertaining. I cracked up at her, "I swear I heard the word bitch." She's delusional and messy - a great combination for reality television. 

Robyn is not wrong that for Wendy to have immediately gone there about her and Juan's relationship, suggests it's something she already felt. That said, I need Robyn to quit with that bullshit that Wendy just came at her out of nowhere and "oh, I can't have an opinion." Because Robyn doesn't just have an opinion when a situation involves Gizelle. She goes straight into bulldog bodyguard mode. 

Twice Wendy told her, "ask your friend" when she kept demanding what was said about Eddie. Then she's the one that proceeded to raise her voice demanding to hear it from Wendy because Wendy came in accusing them and saying "you all", which was bullshit. Because it was clear from jump, Wendy was going for Gizelle. So Robyn can miss me with that "Wendy came for her out of nowhere."

And that passive aggressive call to Juan at the dinner table was laughable, especially as the producers were kind enough to show him earlier all but dismissing her when she called him. And I'm sorry, I know I wasn't the only one going, "what wedding, what bridal shower" when she was declaring Wendy won't be invited. I'll believe it when it actually happens.

[Steph J]

3 minutes ago, eXiled said:

Mia made up a whole verse and stuck it in Gizelle's mouth. Didn't even sound right cuz that's not even the way Giz talks when she's being messy. I don't ever recall her calling another howife out her name -- not even Monique. I'm glad Wendy didn't go for it.

Mia can't even be relied on to accurately report the things that she herself previously said about herself, so I'm not sure why anyone would accept as reliable her narration about what anyone else said about anything.

I was cringing when Robyn had that call with Juan at the table. I couldn't even watch the whole thing.

[Marley]

Wendy is just making me think more and more Eddie did cheat or at least was close to. Gizelle is a shady bitch but please Wendy is acting ridiculous.

Michael is such a creepy fuck. Especially when he’s trying not to be lol.

Robyn is mad at Wendy cause she attacked her for no reason. Robyn’s relationship is constantly questioned and insulted and she never acts as ridiculous as Wendy. A third child seems kind of dumb tho. Ppl trying to say Robyn is just being a sidekick to Gizelle. In this instance I really disagree.

Still liking Candiace this season.

Karen’s swearing in ceremony kind of seems like a joke. Karen is kind of a fake joke tho lol.

I know lots of ppl don’t like Robyn and think she’s boring but I like her. I don’t think I can explain it but I just do. Her relationship Juan it is what it is. At least he’s not being a predator like a certain other housewife husband that rhymes with Schmichael lol. And also yes he is attractive to me.

Mia meh. Just always trying to somehow be front and centre. So far not a fan.

Robyn is being feisty and I’m liking it.

Wendy and Karen thinking Wendy really did something when she was going on about having a man snd having his last name is vindication was hilarious to me. Ooh good for you Wendy you are married to some man that probably cheats on you always. Such an accomplishment. Seems like Ashley’s little comments really struck a chord. Pleas keep proving more and more Eddie probably fucked around on you. Gizelles ex is obviously complete shit and a loser but you are just acting like an idiot right now.

Previews - omg lol.

 

[EtheltoTillie]

They showed a lot of stuff in the coming attractions, calling it upcoming season, not next week. Is there going to be a hiatus?  

Edited August 30, 2021 by GussieK

[emmawoodhouse]

42 minutes ago, GussieK said:

They showed a lot of stuff in the coming attractions, calling it upcoming season, not next week. Is there going to be a hiatus?  

Nah, all of the Howive shows have an upcoming attractions bit around the halfway point in the season.

[tabloidlover]

I am now convinced Eddie had an “indiscretion” of some type.  Wendy called him once she got to her room and he answered with “look at you! Looking all scrumptious” and she said she was on “a vacation from hell” but she would fill him in later and save it for another day”.

A. No husband answers the phone with that ever periodt.

B. She said later more than once and my impression is that she wanted to discuss it off camera.  Clearly she is protecting the fact that he did cheat or that it was a rumor that they discussed previously.  My vote goes to He Cheated!

[drivethroo]

4 hours ago, spunky said:

I like Wendy a lot, but she was being immature at the pool. I know Candiace said in an interview that we're seeing more of the "real Wendy".  I find it hard to believe that someone as accomplished as Wendy would be so immature. 

Wendy is 37 years old with 4 degrees, a 10 year marriage and 3 children under 10 years old. Who Wendy is up to this point has been defined by what she is to other people: scholar, daughter, wife, mother. Wendy is now trying to figure out who Wendy is to herself.  I think Wendy is ashamed of how she acted but she is prideful and will never admit Gizelle and Robyn* took her there and had her acting a fool on national television.

I don't think Wendy is immature.  I think Karen is immature for always having Gizelle's name in her mouth.

3 hours ago, Marley said:

Robyn is mad at Wendy cause she attacked her for no reason. Robyn’s relationship is constantly questioned and insulted and she never acts as ridiculous as Wendy

I think Robyn is hurt because Wendy was doing all that jumping up and down screaming and hollering when Juan proposed but is now "your relationship is fake, he don't want you, you not even invited to your wedding etc."  So why were you whooping and hollering over a fake relationship? Or did you feel my situation with Juan was fake all along?

I find it interesting that in recent interviews Wendy has more smoke for Robyn than for Gizelle.

3 hours ago, Marley said:

Wendy and Karen thinking Wendy really did something when she was going on about having a man snd having his last name is vindication was hilarious to me.

The problem with "I got a man!" reads is yes you may have a man now and the person you're aiming the smoke at does not, but that can all change in a minute.  See Porsha "Conviction of a Wife" Williams and Phaedra "Ejaculate in a cup for a medium pizza, check that" Parks.

And again, Eddie was following 300 big booty models on Instagram and all of a sudden went on a scrubbing spree and unfollowed over 100 of them in a 24 hour period. If you're on the up and up, you don't do that.  I don't believe he has cheated on Wendy but he does like that porn model look and all of a sudden Wendy is emulating that look too.  Just like Wendy has been defined by who she is to other people, Eddie may be feeling the same way...

3 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

These new candle entrepreneurs crack me up. Why, oh why do three of them have new candle lines? It’s not a new market. 

Mia only rustled up a candle line to shade Wendy.  Karen sat back, listened to Wendy's business idea** then co-opted it for herself. Karen did snake things because she's a snake, but Wendy knows that. Don't cry now because you got bit.

3 hours ago, Steph J said:

I was cringing when Robyn had that call with Juan at the table. I couldn't even watch the whole thing.

It was no more cringey than Wendy talking about having Eddie's last name and squeezing out those tears.

*A Wendy vs Robyn rivalry is more interesting and organic than a Wendy vs. Mia rivalry because we see both sides of Wendy vs. Robyn and both sides are genuinely hurt.  I think Gizelle & Wendy will mend fences before Wendy and Robyn.

**With Karen co-opting her candle idea, the only thing Wendy can do is:

• drop the candle line and stay in her lane with politics
• make her candle line better than Karen's

[RealReality]

I am flabbergasted that Robyn really thinks she didn't do anything wrong and didn't participate in ganging up on Wendy with Gizelle and Ashley.  

The gall of Gizelle to call someone out for "high school behavior" when she is basically the stereotypical Mean Girl highschool cheerleader/Heather is incomprehensible to me.  

I kinda wonder what Robyan says now that she has watched the footage back.  She really used to be my favorite HW on the show, but ganging up on someone then trying to gaslight the person you ganged up on and everyone else who saw it is ridiculous.

And Robyn who "CHOOSES NOT TO CARE" suddenly wants to have some confusing public conversation with Juan at the table?  I thought you chose not to care what people said Robyn?  

Robyn is starting to look thirsty for some camera time, like the second she got off that call and no one said anything she was like "well are you going to ignore me too Wendy?"  Girl, what?  

 

I think Wendy is ridiculous for giving these Phaedra Parks "I got a man" reads, but Gizelle has chosen to talk shit about everyones relationship, so people are going to pick her relationship apart too.  

[swankie]

4 hours ago, Marley said:

Wendy and Karen thinking Wendy really did something when she was going on about having a man snd having his last name is vindication was hilarious to me

If I was Gizelle I would have pointed out that she does have Jamal's last name and any man can cheat.  If Wendy is so convinced it's not true, why be bothered by it?  She protesteth too much.  

Mia can go if you ask me.  THE LIES...THE LIES!!! (In my Kandi Burruss voice.) Lol!

Edited August 30, 2021 by swankie
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[RealReality]

6 hours ago, Axie said:

Awe!  Look at Michael trying to act not all horrible and creepy and everything!

Can they just pay Ashley the check, but stop putting her "at home with my creepy husband" segments on the show?  We all know Michael Darby grabs butts and would abandon his "family" in a second if Juan Dixon wanted to run off into the sunset.  

The segments are boring, you got nothing to prove Ashley, because no matter what Michael Darby is a creepy sex pest. 

5 hours ago, PDXlulu said:

Love Candiace being the voice of reason and calling Gizelle out for being mean.

I really love how Candiace supports her friend, because its consistent, its not combative and its not just done for show.  Candiace has routinely defended Wendy against Gizelle's attempts to get vindication when Wendy hasn't been around.  

Take notes Robyn, you don't need to be loud, obnoxious and gang up on someone.  

 

[RealReality]

2 hours ago, tabloidlover said:

I am now convinced Eddie had an “indiscretion” of some type.  Wendy called him once she got to her room and he answered with “look at you! Looking all scrumptious” and she said she was on “a vacation from hell” but she would fill him in later and save it for another day”.

A. No husband answers the phone with that ever periodt.

B. She said later more than once and my impression is that she wanted to discuss it off camera.  Clearly she is protecting the fact that he did cheat or that it was a rumor that they discussed previously.  My vote goes to He Cheated!

To point A I'd only say it was entirely possible that he knew how emotionally difficult the trip was going to be for Wendy with Gizelle and Robyn and he wanted to be a cornball but answer the phone in a way that would make her feel good about herself.  

To point B.  I think you could be right and she didn't want to talk about an affair, but Eddie is pretty darned smart and I don't think he would say anthing about it either way knowing she was being filmed.  So even if she "talked about it" with him when she called, I don't think he would say anything.  

[RealReality]

4 hours ago, Marley said:

Wendy

Robyn is mad at Wendy cause she attacked her for no reason. Robyn’s relationship is constantly questioned and insulted and she never acts as ridiculous as Wendy. A third child seems kind of dumb tho. Ppl trying to say Robyn is just being a sidekick to Gizelle. In this instance I really disagree.

Still liking Candiace this season.

Karen’s swearing in ceremony kind of seems like a joke. Karen is kind of a fake joke tho lol.

I know lots of ppl don’t like Robyn and think she’s boring but I like her. I don’t think I can explain it but I just do. Her relationship Juan it is what it is. At least he’s not being a predator like a certain other housewife husband that rhymes with Schmichael lol. And also yes he is attractive to me.

Mia meh. Just always trying to somehow be front and centre. So far not a fan.

Robyn is being feisty and I’m liking it.

Wendy and Karen thinking Wendy really did something when she was going on about having a man snd having his last name is vindication was hilarious to me. Ooh good for you Wendy you are married to some man that probably cheats on you always. Such an accomplishment. Seems like Ashley’s little comments really struck a chord. Pleas keep proving more and more Eddie probably fucked around on you. Gizelles ex is obviously complete shit and a loser but you are just acting like an idiot right now.

Previews - omg lol.

 

I think Wendy had every reason to go after Robyn who participated in ganging up on Wendy and then gaslighting her.  

Robyn has  no right to be pissy, if she wants to talk about rumors on national TV ...then her non-existent relationship with a man who seems to be looking for every excuse in the world not to marry her is going to be a topic of discussion. 

Maybe next time Robyn can let fragile Gizelle fight her own battles.  But if she insists on getting in the middle of Gizelle's shit, then some of it will get on her shoes too.  Can anyone remember the last time Robyn had an independent beef with anyone?

According to Robyn she chooses not to care, until she does care and has a weird ass conversation with Juan at the dinner table.  It was very shades of "I'm glad Juan Dixon isn't here!" And rightfully, Juan didn't give a shit and sounded annoyed with Robyn for being ridiculous.  

I've really liked Robyn right up until this girls trip.  

I do not like three on one ganging up and I thought Robyn was better than that.  Wendy is right in that Robyn seems desperate for a moment.  When Wendy paid her dust at the table Robyn kept looking upset.  Like what else do you want Robyn, Wendy apologized even though she doesn't owe you an apology.  Would you like a kidney?  Were you perhaps hoping for a fight so someone would care about you beyond Gizelle's shadow?

Candiace is right, Robyn's behavior is taunting.  Instead of taking a second to THINK about what Candiace said, Robyn and Gizelle immediately tried to talk over her.  Oh and Robyn was "offended" because Candiace is saying she cannot have an opinion.  Which no one said, but there is no need to gang up on someone and follow Gizelle's lead into every fight so its unequal. 

Why couldn't any of them just let it go?  If something is wrong with Wendy, you asked and she isn't telling you, why keep ganging up on her?

the two of them kept picking and picking and picking at Wendy and when she finally had enough suddenly she is the bad guy.  I'm very disappointed in Robyn.  Gizelle with the nerve to talk about how Wendy doesn't "belong in the group" because she is too sensitive while Gizelle is, the next day talking about being told off.  I guess Gizelle is sensitive too or else she would have just let it go

But I suspect "too sensitive" in Gizelle speak is "you talk back"

Edited August 30, 2021 by RealReality

[RealReality]

1 hour ago, drivethroo said:

 

**With Karen co-opting her candle idea, the only thing Wendy can do is:

• drop the candle line and stay in her lane with politics
• make her candle line better than Karen's

is there some aliexpress clearance sale on candles?  mia, wendy and karen are doing candles.  

[RealReality]

4 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

These new candle entrepreneurs crack me up. Why, oh why do three of them have new candle lines? It’s not a new market. 

I am now planning to launch a 5 wick candle line …

When I was a kid, I made candles with molds, wax and a double boiler (In retrospect, they were ugly).

Why is it that my mom who wouldn’t teach me to cook (when I asked she said “go set the table”) was fine with me making this mess all over the kitchen is still a mystery.

Coincidentally, I am going to be launching a 5 and a half wick candle line.  Its just like your, but far superior in that it can fragrance a foot more space.  Better luck next time.  

[Chatty Cake]

Why do we have to be subjected to Ashley and the scenes with Michael, her kids and the nanny? Also why does Ashley need a nanny if she is supposedly super mom? If I were the nanny I wouldn’t want those two freaks breathing down my neck when I was trying to do my job. 
Wendy was really crying in front of Askale and Karen.  She is so upset I’m starting to think Eddie did do something. 
I wish Karen had told Wendy that she was launching a candle line, I kind of like them as friends since Gizelle is so obnoxious to both of them. 
Robyn and the phone calls with Juan were cringey but she had a point about Wendy supposedly so excited about the engagement.

 

[LaurelleJ]

7 hours ago, tabloidlover said:

B. She said later more than once and my impression is that she wanted to discuss it off camera.  Clearly she is protecting the fact that he did cheat or that it was a rumor that they discussed previously.  My vote goes to He Cheated!

My thoughts on that were that production asked her not to talk with him about it on the phone, because they wanted to film them talking about it in person when she got back. Plus it was late and for maximum effect, he should really be mic'ed up and in person for this bombshell. 

 

4 hours ago, swankie said:

If I was Gizelle I would have pointed out that she does have Jamal's last name and any man can cheat.  If Wendy is so convinced it's not true, why be bothered by it?  She protesteth too much.  

If Gizelle said that, I would have gagged!!

 

4 hours ago, RealReality said:

According to Robyn she chooses not to care, until she does care and has a weird ass conversation with Juan at the dinner table.  It was very shades of "I'm glad Juan Dixon isn't here!" And rightfully, Juan didn't give a shit and sounded annoyed with Robyn for being ridiculous.  

So weird! I think it's even possible that she texted him or set it up to have him call during the dinner so she could put on that little show. Clearly he was not having it. She was looking for some moments on this trip. Maybe someone whispered in her ear that she needed to dial it up. Love that Candiace called out the "association beef". 

 

2 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Why do we have to be subjected to Ashley and the scenes with Michael, her kids and the nanny? Also why does Ashley need a nanny if she is supposedly super mom? If I were the nanny I wouldn’t want those two freaks breathing down my neck when I was trying to do my job. 

This was likely all they could do with Ashley while the other ladies were on the trip. To make sure she still appears in the episode and gets a check. I wonder if this particular scene was filmed after she came back from Williamsburg, it may have been filmed before. 

[LaurelleJ]

2 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Wendy was really crying in front of Askale and Karen.  She is so upset I’m starting to think Eddie did do something. 

Even though this is a housewives show and they will get in the gutter about some things, I think Wendy genuinely feels bad that they will start dragging Eddie through the mud, regardless of whether he is guilty or not. For the record, I lean towards not. Imagine that he is actually not guilty of anything or at the very least, something minor, like just being a big flirt. The power of suggestion is real. People who want it to be true will find any way to explain it. 

[bosawks]

10 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

These new candle entrepreneurs crack me up. Why, oh why do three of them have new candle lines? It’s not a new market. 

They're channeling their inner Millay:

“My candle burns at both ends;
It will not last the night;
But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends—
These messy Hos can fight!”

― Edna St. Vincent Millay, A Few Figs Wigs from Thistles Drivel

[Baltimore Betty]

If the HW's never went to see the historic part of Wburg why did they have to go there, they could have gone to Deep Creek Lake or Betheny Beach or Ocean City, plenty of rentals in both those places and no history to not go see.

Karen still cracks me up with her self importance, she would go to the opening of an envelope.  

The dance off was fun, finally something fun happened.

I give a lot of credit to Ashley for getting in a car for a 2 hour drive so quickly after giving birth, the shear exhaustion of childbirth and taking care of babies is not for sissy's not to mention the lady bits are still healing...my son is 32 today and I think I am almost recovered, lol.

 

3 minutes ago, bosawks said:

They're channeling their inner Millay:

“My candle burns at both ends;
It will not last the night;
But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends—
These messy Hos can fight!”

― Edna St. Vincent Millay, A Few Figs Wigs from Thistles Drivel

Oh BOSAWKS, you are funny and smart!!!! Love it!

[Mr. Miner]

l liked that Giselle wore jeans to dinner. Do these women ever dress casual!  They all look uncomfortable as hell most of the time. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[sugarbaker design]

10 hours ago, GussieK said:

They showed a lot of stuff in the coming attractions, calling it upcoming season, not next week. Is there going to be a hiatus?  

Probably not a hiatus but next weekend is a holiday weekend, so probably not a new show.

[Keywestclubkid]

1 hour ago, LaurelleJ said:

Even though this is a housewives show and they will get in the gutter about some things, I think Wendy genuinely feels bad that they will start dragging Eddie through the mud, regardless of whether he is guilty or not. For the record, I lean towards not. Imagine that he is actually not guilty of anything or at the very least, something minor, like just being a big flirt. The power of suggestion is real. People who want it to be true will find any way to explain it. 

They are doing to much tho .. IF he didn't cheat why are they all the sudden just acting the most?

[RealReality]

10 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

They are doing to much tho .. IF he didn't cheat why are they all the sudden just acting the most?

Some people really take offense at being lied about.  

I dont think anyone thought monique cheated on Chris s. and that the baby belonged to a trainer.  But it really, really upset her.  

[Boofish]

I just came to say Juan does not like Robyn. AT. ALL.

[RealReality]

On a side note, it's funny to me that when Wendy tried to calmly explain, on numerous occasions, why she changed how she dressed, gizelle wasn't having it and persistently brought it up.  

The only way wendy got gizelle to back off, shut up and stop talking about how she dressed or acted every five minutes was to finally dress her down to the ground. Gizelle, to me, looks like a high school bully.  She will keep pushing and picking until you stand up for yourself. 

It's sad that this may be the behavior she is modeling for her daughters. 

Edited August 30, 2021 by RealReality

[drivethroo]

7 hours ago, RealReality said:

Wendy is right in that Robyn seems desperate for a moment.

ALL of them are looking for a moment.  Wendy's been looking for a moment since episode 1.  Since her moments with Mia are landing flat, let's create some moments with Robyn.

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

If the HW's never went to see the historic part of Wburg why did they have to go there, they could have gone to Deep Creek Lake or Betheny Beach or Ocean City, plenty of rentals in both those places and no history to not go see.

Candiace said during Covid it was hard to find places that would accommodate the cast and the crew.  There is really no reason why this particular group of Housewives would be interested in the history of Colonial Williamsburg.  Williamsburg is boring AF, the only reason to go there is driving through it to get to the beaches, going to Busch Gardens or going to the outlets on your way to or fro the beach.  

Pro-tip: Never go to the Williamsburg Outlets on a Saturday if you want a parking space.

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I give a lot of credit to Ashley for getting in a car for a 2 hour drive so quickly after giving birth,

2 hours?  Try 3 hours at least. Ashley would've been going down 95, hit slow traffic for no reason between Fairfax and Fredericksburg, slowed down near Richmond, then creep & crawl down 64 from Richmond to Williamsburg.  That would only be a 2 hour drive if she was being driven between 10pm and 6am.

53 minutes ago, RealReality said:

Some people really take offense at being lied about.  

Most people would take offense to it.

53 minutes ago, RealReality said:

I dont think anyone thought monique cheated on Chris s. and that the baby belonged to a trainer.  But it really, really upset her. 

IMO they all thought Monique was at the very least inappropriate with the trainer.  I do believe Gizelle discussed making the paternity of the LOST baby a storyline but everyone thought she was talking about the LAST baby and that's why it was nixed.  I also believe Monique knew Gizelle was coming for the LOST baby but she couldn't blast Gizelle about the LOST baby because that would've raised too many questions (especially with Chris) so she put it on the LAST baby.

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I just came to say Juan does not like Robyn. AT. ALL.

He likes her well enough; otherwise he wouldn't be there.  Men don't stay where they don't want to be.

28 minutes ago, RealReality said:

Gizelle, to me, looks like a high school bully.

Everyone on the cast has been a bully.  When Wendy says to Gizelle that God was paying Gizelle back for all the crappy things she's done to others, perhaps she should also sit back and realize maybe God is paying HER back for helping to bully Monique, Ashley and Karen last season.

One thing bullies look for is a victim with a lack of support.  With Candiace standing up for Wendy as well as Wendy having an alliance with Karen, I think Gizelle will back up off of Wendy.   Candiace wasn't going for the icing out of Wendy.

Robyn vs. Wendy will still be on, though.  Just as Robyn feels hurt Wendy attacked her relationship with Juan, Wendy feels hurt Robyn ganged up on her, called her loose & brought up the rumors about Eddie cheating.

Mia correctly picked up Gizelle's intentions and sentiment but destroyed her credibility by claiming Gizelle called Wendy a weak bitch.  Gizelle does think Wendy is a weak bitch but she did not explicitly say that so Mia shouldn't have been putting words in Gizelle's mouth.

 

 

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[Fig Newton]

I don't know what happened or how it happened or why it happened..............but I am really, REALLY liking Candiace this season. 

She is almost the voice of reason and her calmer demeanor is refreshing. All the yelling that goes on and the drama forced is annoying. I never have sessions like that with my friends. If I did, we wouldn't be friends, even for a paycheck. 

Also - Candiace has a body to die for. She looks great in clothes and looks great in a skimpy bikini. You go, girl. 

[Keywestclubkid]

55 minutes ago, RealReality said:

Some people really take offense at being lied about.  

 

you can take offense to it yes but add to that the over sexualization and IQ points that seem to have vanished from Wendy plus now her husband is being EXTRA when talking to her and it looks like they are attempting to cover something

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[LaurelleJ]

The after show is back on now. They discussed Wendy's reaction to the rumors. I think that Karen, Mia, and especially Candiace made great points about how and why Wendy reacted the way she did. Regardless of how Wendy responded, someone is always going to say she reacted the wrong way. If she had brushed it off and said, nope its not true, moving on... then people would have thought she was sweeping it under the rug because she knows it is true and is trying not to draw attention to it. If she blows up and gets mad, people saying "the lady doth protest too much" and then it is true. No win situation. That's why I say that the power of suggestion is the problem. On some level deep down I think that the reason the other women don't have a problem with it is because it happened to them. See? Not just me. No couple or marriage is perfect, but damn does every couple on any reality TV show have to be dragged through the mud as some sort of weird initiation? 

[RealReality]

30 minutes ago, drivethroo said:

ALL of them are looking for a moment.  Wendy's been looking for a moment since episode 1.  Since her moments with Mia are landing flat, let's create some moments with Robyn.

Candiace said during Covid it was hard to find places that would accommodate the cast and the crew.  There is really no reason why this particular group of Housewives would be interested in the history of Colonial Williamsburg.  Williamsburg is boring AF, the only reason to go there is driving through it to get to the beaches, going to Busch Gardens or going to the outlets on your way to or fro the beach.  

Pro-tip: Never go to the Williamsburg Outlets on a Saturday if you want a parking space.

2 hours?  Try 3 hours at least. Ashley would've been going down 95, hit slow traffic for no reason between Fairfax and Fredericksburg, slowed down near Richmond, then creep & crawl down 64 from Richmond to Williamsburg.  That would only be a 2 hour drive if she was being driven between 10pm and 6am.

Most people would take offense to it.

IMO they all thought Monique was at the very least inappropriate with the trainer.  I do believe Gizelle discussed making the paternity of the LOST baby a storyline but everyone thought she was talking about the LAST baby and that's why it was nixed.  I also believe Monique knew Gizelle was coming for the LOST baby but she couldn't blast Gizelle about the LOST baby because that would've raised too many questions (especially with Chris) so she put it on the LAST baby.

He likes her well enough; otherwise he wouldn't be there.  Men don't stay where they don't want to be.

Everyone on the cast has been a bully.  When Wendy says to Gizelle that God was paying Gizelle back for all the crappy things she's done to others, perhaps she should also sit back and realize maybe God is paying HER back for helping to bully Monique, Ashley and Karen last season.

One thing bullies look for is a victim with a lack of support.  With Candiace standing up for Wendy as well as Wendy having an alliance with Karen, I think Gizelle will back up off of Wendy.   Candiace wasn't going for the icing out of Wendy.

Robyn vs. Wendy will still be on, though.  Just as Robyn feels hurt Wendy attacked her relationship with Juan, Wendy feels hurt Robyn ganged up on her, called her loose & brought up the rumors about Eddie cheating.

Mia correctly picked up Gizelle's intentions and sentiment but destroyed her credibility by claiming Gizelle called Wendy a weak bitch.  Gizelle does think Wendy is a weak bitch but she did not explicitly say that so Mia shouldn't have been putting words in Gizelle's mouth.

 

 

I dont think Ashley or gizelle have been bullied. 

A one on one argument, to me, isn't bullying on this show.  

But waiting until you have two other friends to back you and coming after someone for something that in no way effects you at all?  That's bullying to me.  

This wasn't like monique, who asked for a meeting after she attacked candiace. 

Wendy's clothing options are hurting no one.  Even if wendy is acting ridiculous it's hurting no one.  

 

if gizelle wants to lie and say she brought it up because she cares, fine, she brought it up and then she, robyn and Ashley proceeded to completely ignore wendy and talk over her when wendy tried to give a calm and rational explanation. 

I, too believe that everyone thought Monique was inappropriate but didn't cheat.  But reality TV is not a nuanced genre and I think gizelle let the misconception of belibeing that Monique slept with the trainer hang around out there.

And, she didn't like the lie.  Maybe Robyn chooses not to care about the "lies" people spew about her relationship. 

But other people, and I include myself, have a fundamental sense of fair play.  

One on one shade and beef over the truth is fine.  But lying, ganging up on people, physical assault?  Not for me. 

 

[drivethroo]

35 minutes ago, RealReality said:

I dont think Ashley or gizelle have been bullied. 

Wendy most definitely bullied Ashley because she brought her baby to the lake house.  Ashley never did anything to Wendy but Wendy tried to belittle Ashley with the "People like YOU call ME Dr. Wendy."    Who is "people like you?"  Ashley has a degree of her own and has the time and money to get 3 or 4 more if she wanted to.  Ashley bringing the baby to the lake house NEVER should've been brought up to Ashley, it was MONIQUE who should've extended the invitation to Wendy to bring her baby.

Ashley was bullied but I couldn't feel that sorry for her because Ashley harassed/bullied Robyn for 3 seasons about Juan and Ashley definitely bullied Katie.

I would even say Gizelle has been bullied when Monique, Karen & Charrisse brought Kyndall around several times to embarrass Gizelle.

35 minutes ago, RealReality said:

But waiting until you have two other friends to back you and coming after someone for something that in no way effects you at all?  That's bullying to me.  

You don't always need a crew to back you up to bully anyone.  Ashley was a one woman wrecking crew.

35 minutes ago, RealReality said:

This wasn't like monique, who asked for a meeting after she attacked candiace.

The meeting at Karen's house wasn't the issue.  Monique had her say, the other cast members had their say.  And I do believe Karen was TEAM NEUTRAL at that meeting.  Karen knew and said that Monique was dead wrong.

What made Karen jump to TEAM MONIQUE was Candiace & Wendy continually trying to get Karen to disavow Monique and side with Candiace.  Karen didn't appreciate Candiace or Wendy barking at her to shun Monique.

Then at the reunion, admonishing Monique about using her words instead of her hands only to a year later, threaten to whoop Gizelle's ass herself.

Every cast member on this show has bullied another cast member with the exception of maybe Katie.

Edited August 30, 2021 by drivethroo