Jeopardy! Season 38 (2021-2022)

[proserpina65]

1 minute ago, Welshman in Ca said:

I feel like she pronounces a lot of words incorrectly but put it down to my being Welsh and not the brightest bulb in the box rather than her, maybe it's not me after all.

Sometimes it's just that Americans pronounce things differently from the original or that there's more than one possible pronunciation.  Sometimes, though, it's her.  And, to be fair, she's not the only one.  I just feel like Alex would've said Stone of Scone correctly.

[PBnJay]

1 hour ago, proserpina65 said:

Oh, and Mayim, Scone is pronounced "Scoon" when referring to the Stone of Destiny because that is how the name of the Scottish village & palace where it was kept for more than 4 centuries is pronounced.  Although many people don't know that.  Still, you'd think the correct pronunciation would be on the card.

Yes, exactly. And that's how I said it here in my living room, then wondered if MB would have called it incorrect, because ... Berry/Barry. I never know with this show.

[proserpina65]

8 minutes ago, PBnJay said:

Yes, exactly. And that's how I said it here in my living room, then wondered if MB would have called it incorrect, because ... Berry/Barry. I never know with this show.

If she'd ruled someone incorrect for "Scoon", they'd have insisted the judges check that ruling.  At least, I would've.

[PBnJay]

As a somewhat-related side note, "Scone" rhymes with "gone" in Scotland whereas the Yanks say it with a long O, "skOHn.

[proserpina65]

3 minutes ago, PBnJay said:

As a somewhat-related side note, "Scone" rhymes with "gone" in Scotland whereas the Yanks say it with a long O, "skOHn.

Yep, it's totally different when one is talking about the delightful bakery item. 😀

[Welshman in Ca]

5 minutes ago, PBnJay said:

As a somewhat-related side note, "Scone" rhymes with "gone" in Scotland whereas the Yanks say it with a long O, "skOHn.

Depends who you ask in the UK rather than what area you're in, it has always been one of those words that the UK as a whole argues over which way is correct. I've always said it like "gone" but have heard people in Devon & Cornwall say it both ways as well as in Scotland when I lived there.

Scone as in stone

Scone as in gone

Both are acceptable to most but some will fight you about it. I'm a scone as in gone person myself but will use the other if I get a quizzical look.

Edited June 16, 2022 by Welshman in Ca
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[Katy M]

4 minutes ago, Welshman in Ca said:

Depends who you ask in the UK rather than what area you're in, it has always been one of those words that the UK as a whole argues over which way is correct. I've always said it like "gone" but have heard people in Devon & Cornwall say it both ways as well as in Scotland when I lived there.

Scone as in stone

Scone as in gone

Both are acceptable to most but some will fight you about it. I'm a scone as in gone person myself but will use the other if I get a quizzical look.

I've certainly not saying this authoritatively as I'm American, but I've heard it was supposed to be prounced "skoon."

[proserpina65]

24 minutes ago, Katy M said:

I've certainly not saying this authoritatively as I'm American, but I've heard it was supposed to be prounced "skoon."

Only if you are referring to the Stone of Scone.  The bakery item is pronounced differently.  Just to confuse things.

[Katy M]

1 minute ago, proserpina65 said:

Only if you are referring to the Stone of Scone.  The bakery item is pronounced differently.  Just to confuse things.

I thought that's what we were talking about.  I guess I just looked at the last post and didn't scroll up enough. Sorry.

[Bastet]

3 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

I can't remember if it was the first clue chosen, though, which would make a difference.

Yes, it was.

Edited June 16, 2022 by Bastet

[PBnJay]

2 hours ago, Welshman in Ca said:

Scone as in stone

As in "the Stone of Scone."

I know, I am so funny.

(I'll show myself out now.)

[Prevailing Wind]

I had a Scottish lady tell me it's pronounced like "sconce" without the second C. (The bakery item, that is.)

[Clanstarling]

18 hours ago, Leeds said:

Stanley Cup here.  I am so sick of Jeopardy! being pre-empted by sports I don't give a toss about.

Stanley Cup here too. We watched the recording at lunch.

Nearly ran Milwaukee (of all things - never been there), and Body Parts. Otherwise I did okay, except when I mangled the Irving novel title into some kind of before and after (Apple Cider House Rules is what came out of my mouth).

No FJ, sadly. Knew Babe and Campanella, but Wheaties never entered my mind - we didn't eat them in our house.

[PBnJay]

21 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

I had a Scottish lady tell me it's pronounced like "sconce" without the second C. (The bakery item, that is.)

@Browncoat needs to check this out and clarify for us, once and for all. You've been assigned, Browncoat!

2 minutes ago, Clanstarling said:

Wheaties never entered my mind - we didn't eat them in our house.

You obviously have been marred by never being able to eat The Breakfast of Champions.

[Quickbeam]

Finally all that Outlander knowledge comes in handy! 

[ams1001]

Ugh. Again. Ran nothing and my only TS was last legs. Missed three Horror Movies, two "O"Men, and one each in everything else in the first round. Second round I missed one in Relativity and B to I, two in Who Was Where, When, and three in everything else (but I got both DDs...). No FJ (haven't read it), but I at least guessed correctly that it had something to do with time travel. (I thought of The Time Traveler's Wife but the date was too early for that and also it's not a series.)

I think I need a new computer. It's taken to shutting off if it gets unplugged (even though the battery is fully charged) and the cord came slightly loose during the commercial before DJ; it's also slow as **** so the round was half over by the time it booted back up to the login screen. Marked my second round on paper but the auto-save only saved half my first round scorecard so I had to go to the archive to fill it back in. But this site (or maybe it was Chrome?) remembered the comment I had started here, so at least there's that.

Little throwback to a clue from a few weeks ago I came across today...

[Prevailing Wind]

This was my first time seeing Megan and I think she must be very short. Did anyone else notice her belt? She's on a box so high, her waist is visible.

I read the first 3 Outlander books, burned out on #4. I still missed FJ.

[Browncoat]

3 hours ago, PBnJay said:

@Browncoat needs to check this out and clarify for us, once and for all. You've been assigned, Browncoat!

You obviously have been marred by never being able to eat The Breakfast of Champions.

I will take that challenge!

Sadly, I have never read Outlander, so I had no idea for FJ tonight.  However, I will be at the Callanish Stones next week, and I understand they play a part in the Outlander story.

[Caoimhe]

I read Cross Stitch (original UK title for Outlander) many years ago but had no clue what Moebius means so that was a miss for me.

[kathyk24]

I was surprised nobody knew Bette Milder I love her. I thought Outlander was a series of romance novels so I guessed wrong. I thought scone rhymes with stone.

[ECM1231]

No clue what FJ was. Missed 1 each in B to I and O'Men. Got the TS's of last legs, Muscle Shoals, tossed tempest and Bette Midler. 

I'm at our mountain vacation home for a few days and we have no cable TV nor internet.  We can't get ABC or its affiliates on the antenna, which is infuriating. We've tried almost every super duper antenna but ABC won't come in. I had to use my mobile phone data to watch. Not fun. I probably won't bother tomorrow. 

[Quickbeam]

In the Outlander book world, it is well known that this has all been going on since 1991 with each book more dense than the last. 

[dcalley]

2 hours ago, Caoimhe said:

had no clue what Moebius means

It's pretty cool and easy to make a Möbius strip and play around with it. Here's an explanation/demonstration from one of tonight's others answers ("when Jeopardy! clues collide"?):

[badgerwoman]

2 hours ago, Browncoat said:

I will take that challenge!

Sadly, I have never read Outlander, so I had no idea for FJ tonight.  However, I will be at the Callanish Stones next week, and I understand they play a part in the Outlander story.

I knew it was Outlander because a good friend  is obsessed with the books.  So it feels like I've read them.  30 years of hearing about them hasn't tempted me into reading them, but they are insanely popular.

[853fisher]

Here, have an itsy-bitsy teeny weeny earworm!  I've always loved that song.

I find it sort of fun to see Megan keep the championship by the skin of her teeth again.  I thought that was a pretty dynamic and interesting game.

The statement in the intro that the last 1-day champion was defeated by Mattea was incorrect.  That was Mallory Kass, the contestant who beat my friend Danielle (who earlier beat Mattea).  The writers / researchers are welcome to PM me if they'd like these things checked in the future. ;)

12 hours ago, MrAtoz said:

I can certainly recall it happening to Alex a few times.  "And now the final-- [BOOP BOOP BOOP] --oh, we won't get to the final clue."  His wording may have been a bit smoother, but it certainly happened.

Thanks!  I trust your recollection.  This is the sort of minor thing about which I think, if it was my only complaint, I would be happy to say something like "he had a head start of several decades in broadcasting - that kind of smoothness could come to her."

Edited June 17, 2022 by 853fisher

[SomeTameGazelle]

11 minutes ago, badgerwoman said:

I knew it was Outlander because a good friend  is obsessed with the books.  So it feels like I've read them.  30 years of hearing about them hasn't tempted me into reading them, but they are insanely popular.

I never heard of them in the nineties, so I was under the impression that they had become a thing much later when people around me were talking about them.

2 hours ago, Caoimhe said:

I read Cross Stitch (original UK title for Outlander) many years ago but had no clue what Moebius means so that was a miss for me.

Such different titles. Cross Stitch sounds like a cozy mystery series with a crafting theme.

I really thought Steve or Sarah would win. Congratulations to Megan for pulling through. 

Edited June 17, 2022 by SomeTameGazelle

[j5cochran]

I wonder how Mayim felt about the TS of Bette Midler. The two of them appeared in the 1988 film Beaches, with Mayim playing Midler's character at the age of 11.

[Prevailing Wind]

1 hour ago, dcalley said:

It's pretty cool and easy to make a Möbius strip and play around with it. Here's an explanation/demonstration from one of tonight's others answers ("when Jeopardy! clues collide"?):

In the early 60s, when I was in Jr High, my best friend's younger sister did a project for extra credit in math - Aida made a whole bunch (7 or 8) one-sided objects, all suspended in a cardboard box. I was in awe.  Aida could do anything. She was 12 and could design a blazer, make a pattern, and sew it to perfection.

[30 Helens]

I am aware of the Outlander TV series, but I didn’t know it was based on a series of books. My half-hearted (ok, quarter-hearted) guess for FJ was Time and Again. 

40 minutes ago, 853fisher said:

The statement in the intro that the last 1-day champion was defeated by Mattea was incorrect.  That was Mallory Kass, the contestant who beat my friend Danielle (who earlier beat Mattea).  

And it’s not like it was even that long ago. Come on, people. How hard can it be to look at last month’s calendar?

9 minutes ago, j5cochran said:

I wonder how Mayim felt about the TS of Bette Midler. The two of them appeared in the 1988 film Beaches, with Mayim playing Midler's character at the age of 11.

I hated that movie so much. When my husband and I got married at the courthouse, the judge decided to put a personal spin on the ceremony by unexpectedly reciting “Wind Beneath My Wings” after the vows. If you saw my wedding tape, you would see my eyes widen in horror, then my head almost explode as I tried to keep in the laughter. (I almost made it.) Poor judge. She meant well. At least she gave me a funny wedding.

[Bastet]

I just got home from a loved one's birthday dinner and am too tired and full to play the whole game via the archive, so just looked at FJ for tonight.  Yeah.  I could still be sitting here thinking tomorrow morning, and I wouldn't be one bit closer to getting it.  I've heard of the TV show (and probably come across the fact it was based on books by scrolling past discussion in some general thread here), but couldn't tell you a single thing about it other than it exists.

[mertensia]

16 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

As the proud possessor of the anniversary replica box with Eric Heiden, you'd think I would've been able to come up with Wheaties, but you would be so, so wrong.

I grew up in the same village as he and Beth did.

And I went with the company Champion, because why not?

Edited June 17, 2022 by mertensia

[Mindthinkr]

I couldn’t watch last night and like Bastet was too tired to go through all the clues. I knew right away it was Outlander. My brother, who hates tv other than ice hockey, loved that series. So in solidarity (and to see what all his fuss was about) I watched it. So it’s FJ * for me. 

[JudyObscure]

 I knew "Outlander" only because it came in second on PBS's Great American Read contest out of 100 books submitted,  right after, "To Kill a Mockingbird."  So Mr. Obscure and I tried to read it and didn't get very far.

https://www.pbs.org/the-great-american-read/books/#/

[M. Darcy]

Darn it, I should have known FJ.  I just finished watching Men in Kilts!!  

[ams1001]

10 hours ago, j5cochran said:

I wonder how Mayim felt about the TS of Bette Midler. The two of them appeared in the 1988 film Beaches, with Mayim playing Midler's character at the age of 11.

heh, I was thinking about that, too.

8 hours ago, Bastet said:

I've heard of the TV show (and probably come across the fact it was based on books by scrolling past discussion in some general thread here), but couldn't tell you a single thing about it other than it exists.

I used to work in bookstores in the late '90s-mid '00s and for a while I was in charge of the fiction & genres sections, so I was aware of the books long before it was a show, shelved them many times, I'm sure, but never read them and only relatively recently learned that there was time travel involved.

[Clanstarling]

18 hours ago, PBnJay said:

You obviously have been marred by never being able to eat The Breakfast of Champions.

 Well, none of us were champions at anything, so we didn't qualify. 😥🤣

Edited June 17, 2022 by Clanstarling

[GreekGeek]

11 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

I hated that movie so much. When my husband and I got married at the courthouse, the judge decided to put a personal spin on the ceremony by unexpectedly reciting “Wind Beneath My Wings” after the vows. If you saw my wedding tape, you would see my eyes widen in horror, then my head almost explode as I tried to keep in the laughter. (I almost made it.) Poor judge. She meant well. At least she gave me a funny wedding.

I never saw "Beaches," but I hate the song "Wind Beneath My Wings." Or rather I hate its message: "Thank you for being invisible and always letting me hog the spotlight."

[dcalley]

12 hours ago, Prevailing Wind said:

In the early 60s, when I was in Jr High, my best friend's younger sister did a project for extra credit in math - Aida made a whole bunch (7 or 8) one-sided objects, all suspended in a cardboard box. I was in awe.  Aida could do anything. She was 12 and could design a blazer, make a pattern, and sew it to perfection.

Do you know what became of her?

11 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

I hated that movie so much. When my husband and I got married at the courthouse, the judge decided to put a personal spin on the ceremony by unexpectedly reciting “Wind Beneath My Wings” after the vows. If you saw my wedding tape, you would see my eyes widen in horror, then my head almost explode as I tried to keep in the laughter. (I almost made it.) Poor judge. She meant well. At least she gave me a funny wedding.

That would be a good Jeopardy story! (Maybe not with Mayim as the host.)

[PBnJay]

15 hours ago, ECM1231 said:

I'm at our mountain vacation home for a few days and we have no cable TV nor internet. 

Solution: YouTube. Same-day episodes you will find there.

I nearly LOL'd when the FJ answer was revealed. I read and own ALL of the Outlander books, there is a huge stack of them bedside, and I was so obsessed with them, they enveloped my world for a long, long time. But my answer to FJ was *I'm not telling* and Diana Gabaldon's book series never entered my mind.

Side note: A poster here knows Ms. Gabaldon. I'm curious if @Mystery Author got FJ correct.

1 hour ago, Clanstarling said:

 Well, none of us were champions at anything, so we didn't qualify. 😥🤣

Maybe if you had been eating your Wheaties that would have been different. 

[proserpina65]

I'm finding Megan to be a rather lackluster champion.  Hopefully she'll be gone soon.

I had an okay game last night.  Ran 4 categories (Artists & Their Subjects, Get Out, Who Was Where When & It's All Relativity), but only got 3 stumpers: last legs, Muscle Shoals and Bette Midler.  Didn't get FJ.  I hated that book and thought it was very poorly written and so clearly blocked the year of its publication from my mind.

8 hours ago, mertensia said:

I grew up in the same village as he and Beth did.

I had such a huge crush on Eric back in the day.  I still blame him for my fondness for men with huge speedskater thighs.

5 hours ago, JudyObscure said:

 I knew "Outlander" only because it came in second on PBS's Great American Read contest out of 100 books submitted,  right after, "To Kill a Mockingbird."  So Mr. Obscure and I tried to read it and didn't get very far.

https://www.pbs.org/the-great-american-read/books/#/

I find that extremely sad.  There are so many fantastic American novels out there and that poorly written one comes in 2nd.

[DrSpaceman73]

57 minutes ago, dcalley said:

Do you know what became of her?

That would be a good Jeopardy story! (Maybe not with Mayim as the host.)

Well despite her being in the film she might understand. 

There's a famous story where she is not a big fan of musicals and refused to stand and clap for then friend neil Patrick Harris after seeing rent. 

https://nypost.com/2021/09/29/why-mayim-bialik-and-neil-patrick-harris-are-no-longer-friends/

Also I always thought Neil Patrick Harris should be the Jeopardy host after Alex. 

Wind beneath my wings is the quintessential cheesy song that most people sing kind of tongue in cheek and not seriously. 

[DrSpaceman73]

6 hours ago, JudyObscure said:

 I knew "Outlander" only because it came in second on PBS's Great American Read contest out of 100 books submitted,  right after, "To Kill a Mockingbird."  So Mr. Obscure and I tried to read it and didn't get very far.

https://www.pbs.org/the-great-american-read/books/#/

What a disappointing list. 

At least to kill a mockingbird won. That would be my choice. 

After that.....ehhhh.  really the notebook?

[Prevailing Wind]

2 minutes ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

Wind beneath my wings is the quintessential cheesy song that most people sing kind of tongue in cheek and not seriously. 

I do that with that god-awful song from Cats. The worse you sing it, the better... "Miiiiidniiiiight and the kitties are sleeping, all alone in the basement, they are dreaming of birds. If you touch them, you'll understand how sharp claws can be. Look! The memory has no words."

I don't really know what happened to my Mobius friend, Aida. I do know she still lives in Florida, but that's about it.

[dcalley]

2 hours ago, Prevailing Wind said:

I do that with that god-awful song from Cats. The worse you sing it, the better... "Miiiiidniiiiight and the kitties are sleeping, all alone in the basement, they are dreaming of birds. If you touch them, you'll understand how sharp claws can be. Look! The memory has no words."

That's the only way I sing it!

[dbklmt]

3 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

I'm finding Megan to be a rather lackluster champion.  Hopefully she'll be gone soon.

I agree, but I want her to win two more games so she can reach 5 and eliminate John Focht, the controversial introductory hand waver 😠 from the Tournament of Champions.

Edited to add:

My bad; I had the wrong person as SomeTameGazelle pointed out and now I'm happy with all of those that have qualified for the Tournament of Champions for 2022. 

Edited June 17, 2022 by dbklmt
Edited to add additional thoughts

[SomeTameGazelle]

12 minutes ago, dbklmt said:

I agree, but I want her to win two more games so she can reach 5 and eliminate John Focht, the controversial introductory hand waver 😠 from the Tournament of Champions.  

I thought the only controversial wave/gesture was from Kelly Donohue, who has already dropped off. Is there a controversy with John Focht as well?

[dbklmt]

15 minutes ago, SomeTameGazelle said:

I thought the only controversial wave/gesture was from Kelly Donohue, who has already dropped off. Is there a controversy with John Focht as well?

OMG!  You're right!  Thanks SameTameGazelle for pointing out my faux pas and that will teach me to google to make sure what I say is true!

[Driad]

4 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

I'm finding Megan to be a rather lackluster champion.  Hopefully she'll be gone soon.

I like that she named her daughter for Rosalind Franklin, who did not get the credit she deserved in her lifetime.

[PBnJay]

I completely forgot Jeopardy aired here today at 1 p.m., while I was looking for something interesting to watch to kill some time. (I ended up with my fifth viewing of The Right Stuff. Flips never made it to the Jeopardy channel.) Anyway, hope it was a good game that everyone enjoyed. And now I get to mow the backyard since I don't need to wait for Jeopardy to come on. Yeay me, right?

[853fisher]

Hmmmm.  I find this, like a lot of handwriting, ambiguous.  I sure wouldn't like to be the one who had to make the call, especially when it decided the game.

I note that Sadie does appear to have been writing up to the last moment, and that the production team can see what the contestants are writing.  Maybe something about how they watched the word come together convinced them?

Commiserations either way - it's a tough way to lose when she clearly knew it, whether the way she rendered her response conformed with the rules or not.

Edited June 17, 2022 by 853fisher