S06.E03 Jiminy Crickets

[Keywestclubkid]

6 hours ago, spunky said:

Careful! She might threaten to send you a cease and desist letter,  like she threatened Wendy last Thursday. 

LOL she did not send a cease and desist .... That is freaking funny .... she gets she is on a reality show right and doing that is a sure way of her NOT returning next year

[spunky]

4 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

LOL she did not send a cease and desist .... That is freaking funny .... she gets she is on a reality show right and doing that is a sure way of her NOT returning next year

She threatened to send Wendy one on Thursday, because Wendy called her a liar during a twitter spat she started. Funniest part is Wendy responded to her last Sunday and she waited until Thursday to be offended.

Edited July 27, 2021 by spunky

[Axie]

Ashley has her double insurance policy now so there probably won’t be anymore babies for her. 

[Keywestclubkid]

18 minutes ago, Axie said:

Ashley has her double insurance policy now so there probably won’t be anymore babies for her. 

Another cheating rumor literally just popped up lol I guess giving him the booty didn’t do anything for his wandering eye 

Edited July 27, 2021 by Keywestclubkid

[amarante]

21 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

 

The escort thing, I do believe that the client pays for the time the girl spends with them, if the client wants sex it is the girls choice to say yes or no, saying yes would mean more money...Mia likes money, just sayin'.

The whole notion of men paying women for companionship at a "strip club" is delusional. As if they are seeking out a good conversationalist.

It is money for sex and the only variable is how much money the "escort" can earn. While I am far from an expert, those plying their trade in strip clubs earn more than coke addled street hookers but are pretty low in the food chain plus they are horrendously exploited by the owners of the club and have to pay a large amount to the owners, the bouncers and the bar tenders who steer them business. My understanding is that many of them actually have to pay for the privilege of working in a club since the club provides them with a place to do business - much like a mall rents out space for stores and kiosks. 

I am not judgmental about sex workers because of morals but the reality of it is that it is horribly exploitative of those who do it - male or female. Mia would seem to have a very typical background for it - product of a very dysfunctional home - bounced around in foster homes - was probably sexually abused and/or had very early sexual experiences and exploitative relationships. 

Yes it can be said that many of the women married for money like Karen, Ashley, Monique but there generally isn't the same degree of exploitation when one marries for money. The power dynamics might be skewed but one isn't cycling through multiple sexual partners in possibly dangerous situations. There just isn't any comparison. 

[sATL]

24 minutes ago, amarante said:

The whole notion of men paying women for companionship at a "strip club" is delusional. As if they are seeking out a good conversationalist.

It is money for sex and the only variable is how much money the "escort" can earn. While I am far from an expert, those plying their trade in strip clubs earn more than coke addled street hookers but are pretty low in the food chain plus they are horrendously exploited by the owners of the club and have to pay a large amount to the owners, the bouncers and the bar tenders who steer them business. My understanding is that many of them actually have to pay for the privilege of working in a club since the club provides them with a place to do business - much like a mall rents out space for stores and kiosks. 

I am not judgmental about sex workers because of morals but the reality of it is that it is horribly exploitative of those who do it - male or female. Mia would seem to have a very typical background for it - product of a very dysfunctional home - bounced around in foster homes - was probably sexually abused and/or had very early sexual experiences and exploitative relationships. 

Yes it can be said that many of the women married for money like Karen, Ashley, Monique but there generally isn't the same degree of exploitation when one marries for money. The power dynamics might be skewed but one isn't cycling through multiple sexual partners in possibly dangerous situations. There just isn't any comparison. 

Where (which city) did Mia work ?

“I don’t look for a customer that wants me to sit there and talk to him about his whole life,” she says. “I’m looking for the customers who came in there and already got their ones. They drink their drinks, come up to the pole with $500, and leave.” 

- see source below

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those who do private parties, get paid more than the clubs...so the news said - esp. during the height of the shutdown...

"According to a paper from the Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta’s adult industry brings in $240 million in annual sales has (a greater economic impact than all of its sports teams) and the city ranks fifth in the country for the highest number of strip clubs per 100,000 residents."

{Granted the Hawks, Falcons, and Braves have other issues other than trying to outdo the adult entertainment industry. they need to at least outdo other teams in their own industry}

 source:

https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/atlanta/how-atlanta-strip-clubs-are-surviving-the-covid-19-pandemic

Edited July 27, 2021 by sATL

[RealReality]

Under the best of circumstances being a sex worker is a job.  

Why would you lie about your job but tell the world about having clit surgery?

This is why I'm not a fan of Mia.  She wants to cosplay as this free spirit without taboos or boundaries but lies about a taboo job history.  

Having seen Mia in camera I am confident that no one has ever or will ever pay for her "time"

[goofygirl]

On 7/26/2021 at 10:48 AM, bichonblitz said:

What happened to Robyn's house flipping business? Did she lose her ass on the first one and then just gave up? 

She found out she had to pay taxes on that real estate income!

Edited July 28, 2021 by goofygirl

[RealReality]

6 hours ago, Axie said:

Ashley has her double insurance policy now so there probably won’t be anymore babies for her. 

She better be sure about that.  

Michael Darby shows all signs of being a toad of a human and I wouldn't put it past him to hide his assets to avoid child support/alimony/post nuptial agreement.

[EtheltoTillie]

8 minutes ago, RealReality said:

She better be sure about that.  

Michael Darby shows all signs of being a toad of a human and I wouldn't put it past him to hide his assets to avoid child support/alimony/post nuptial agreement.

I’ve never believed he really has that much money. 

[RealReality]

10 minutes ago, GussieK said:

I’ve never believed he really has that much money. 

Neither did I.  

I'm always suspicious of people who showy with their wealth but cheap with the small stuff. 

In their first season, Michael bought her the Porsche and made a big show of it......so everyone could see how rich he is. 

But they had a cash bar?  Nah dawg.  

[amarante]

At this point Ashley has been on about five seasons of RHPOT and should be making a substantial salary plus any housewife monetizes their social media and that brings in money.

There is nothing to indicate that Michael isn't supporting her currently and in the past fairly comfortably so she has had the benefit of a large income stream without needing to spend all of it to support her lifestyle.

I realize it is breaking the fourth wall which BRAVO tries to prevent but at least in terms of discussions BRAVO salaries and other money flowing in need to be factored in just as discussions about trips or whatever need to factor in that BRAVO arranges and pays for all trips so discussions about the "hostess" are ridiculous.

I could be wrong but I thought it was Candiace that had a cash bar and not Michael and Ashley. Their penthouse doesn't photograph well but it probably among the more expensive of the Potomac homes.

[bosawks]

On 7/27/2021 at 12:34 AM, RealReality said:

I just can't get on board with Mia, everything is so fake.  

At least she's consistent?

[SailorGirl]

11 hours ago, RealReality said:

 

But they had a cash bar?  Nah dawg.  

I'm pretty sure that was Chris and Candiace, not Ashley and Michael. 

[sATL]

the teacher told Carter that his mom is supposed to wake him up.....

oh boy.... oooohhhweee...

how old is this child ?

Edited July 28, 2021 by sATL

[Baltimore Betty]

7 hours ago, amarante said:

Their penthouse doesn't photograph well but it probably among the more expensive of the Potomac homes.

While watching last weeks episode I noticed they have a second floor, the stairs are near the front door but I still think the place is an odd layout.

[sATL]

Candice - it was announced yesterday that Kelly Clarkston has to pay her soon-to-be-ex -husband    $200,000 a month. their drama starting about who owed money to a management company

Be careful... just saying....business and personal hmmm

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kelly-clarkson-ordered-to-pay-brandon-blackstock-200000/

Edited July 28, 2021 by sATL

[retired watcher]

On 7/26/2021 at 11:55 AM, SailorGirl said:

Because furthering one's education is never a bad thing? 

Not sure why this is confusing -- a lot of people with much bigger entertainment careers have advanced degrees -- just off the top of my head -- Brian May of Queen has his PhD in astrophysics. Mayim Bialik has a bachelor's in neuroscience. Ja Rule has a certification from the Harvard Business School. Montel Williams has his engineering degree from the U.S. Naval Academy. 

 

Mayim Bialik has a PhD in neuroscience.

[RealReality]

8 hours ago, SailorGirl said:

I'm pretty sure that was Chris and Candiace, not Ashley and Michael. 

No.  It was both.  

Ashley's first season she had her 26th birthday and it was a cash bar.  Gizelle shit talked it so hard.  

Candace and Chris also had a cash bar. 

[retired watcher]

Does Gisell and or Robyn have a podcast? If so what is the name? Thanks.

[RealReality]

9 hours ago, amarante said:

At this point Ashley has been on about five seasons of RHPOT and should be making a substantial salary plus any housewife monetizes their social media and that brings in money.

There is nothing to indicate that Michael isn't supporting her currently and in the past fairly comfortably so she has had the benefit of a large income stream without needing to spend all of it to support her lifestyle.

I realize it is breaking the fourth wall which BRAVO tries to prevent but at least in terms of discussions BRAVO salaries and other money flowing in need to be factored in just as discussions about trips or whatever need to factor in that BRAVO arranges and pays for all trips so discussions about the "hostess" are ridiculous.

I could be wrong but I thought it was Candiace that had a cash bar and not Michael and Ashley. Their penthouse doesn't photograph well but it probably among the more expensive of the Potomac homes.

No.  First season Ashley was on, Michael threw her a 26th birthday party and there was a cash bar.  Gizelle talked shit and rolled her eyes.  

Candace and Chris also had a cash bar. 

[drivethroo]

15 hours ago, amarante said:

I could be wrong but I thought it was Candiace that had a cash bar and not Michael and Ashley. Their penthouse doesn't photograph well but it probably among the more expensive of the Potomac homes.

 

7 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

While watching last weeks episode I noticed they have a second floor, the stairs are near the front door but I still think the place is an odd layout.

Ashley and Michael's penthouse does have 2 stories and a rooftop deck with views of Washington DC.  They filmed on the rooftop deck during Season 1.

Michael developed the building they live in and many other properties in the DC/Maryland/Northern VA area (I'm not saying DMV in this case because there are several Baltimore projects listed on the website and Baltimore is not in the DMV...adjacent but not in it).

Michael can act a fool because he owns his own business...who's gon' fire him?

This is probably the building they live in, here is Michael's profile.

He's probably not trying to buy a house with Ashley so she can't lay claim to it in the future.

5 hours ago, RealReality said:

No.  First season Ashley was on, Michael threw her a 26th birthday party and there was a cash bar.  Gizelle talked shit and rolled her eyes.  

Candace and Chris also had a cash bar. 

This is because allegedly BRAVO doesn't pay for any of the parties or events, the Housewife has to come out of her pockets to pay for it.  That's why Karen's "gala" was janky and in her foyer either season 2 or 3.  Candiace couldn't afford an open bar and her mother wasn't trying to pay for it.

Michael didn't want to pay for people he didn't know and didn't like to be getting crunk and drunk on his dime; we know he could have afforded to have an open bar.

5 hours ago, retired watcher said:

Does Gisell and or Robyn have a podcast? If so what is the name? Thanks.

Robyn & Gizelle's podcast is called "Reasonably Shady."  They also have a YouTube channel for the podcast called "Reasonably Shady." 

The first episode is where they discuss their backgrounds.  In a nutshell:

Gizelle is the baby of 3 siblings  & spoiled

Robyn is the younger of 2 siblings and is undercover with her foolery

Gizelle is Gizelle, but Robyn is hilarious (IMO).  She's an interesting character.  I wonder if they will show the development of the podcast on the show?

 

Edited July 29, 2021 by drivethroo

[RealReality]

5 minutes ago, drivethroo said:

 

Ashley and Michael's penthouse does have 2 stories and a rooftop deck with views of Washington DC.  They filmed on the rooftop deck during Season 1.

Michael developed the building they live in and many other properties in the DC/Maryland/Northern VA area (I'm not saying DMV in this case because there are several Baltimore projects listed on the website and Baltimore is not in the DMV...adjacent but not in it).

Michael can act a fool because he owns his own business...who's gon' fire him?

This is probably the building they live in, here is Michael's profile.

He's probably not trying to buy a house with Ashley so she can't lay claim to it in the future.

This is because allegedly BRAVO doesn't pay for any of the parties or events, the Housewife has to come out of her pockets to pay for it.  That's why Karen's "gala" was janky and in her foyer either season 2 or 3.  Candiace couldn't afford an open bar and her mother wasn't trying to pay for it.

Michael didn't want to pay for people he didn't know and didn't like to be getting crunk and drunk on his dime; we know he could have afforded to have an open bar.

Robyn & Gizelle's podcast is called "Reasonably Shady."  They also have a YouTube channel for the podcast called "Reasonably Shady."  Gizelle is Gizelle, but Robyn is hilarious (IMO).  She's an interesting character.  I wonder if they will show the development of the podcast on the show?

 

I question whether Michael could have afforded it.  If there is one thing these past 4 years had taught me it's that real estate values are highly variable and projects are leveraged to the hilt.  

Making a giant production of giving Ashley the Porsche while having a cash bar seems very "publicly wealthy and privately poor"

[drivethroo]

2 minutes ago, RealReality said:

I question whether Michael could have afforded it.  If there is one thing these past 4 years had taught me it's that real estate values are highly variable and projects are leveraged to the hilt.  

Making a giant production of giving Ashley the Porsche while having a cash bar seems very "publicly wealthy and privately poor"

I think Michael has the money; he just doesn't want to spend it on Ashley.  Her husband probably has the most money out of the husband group outside of Chris Samuels but Ashley has ALWAYS looked like she came straight out of Forever 21 or Express.

I think Michael is controlling with the money and controlling in general (firing Ashley from the restaurant, throwing her out of the penthouse, not letting her having international on her phone, evicting her mother etc). That's why I'm most concerned about Ashley after RHOP is no more:

Gizelle probably got a nice settlement from Jamal & she's doing this show, Chat Room, Nutrisystem endorsement, appearances, etc.

Robyn & Candiace will always have their moms to fall back on.

Candiace will also have her businesses, entertainment career and MBA to fall back on.

Karen will be fine with her wig lines & selling La Dame on QVC.

Mia's a hustler; she'll be fine.

Wendy can always fall back on one of her 4 degrees.

What does Ashley have? 2 babies & having to support her mom and sister so they aren't living in a tent under Interstate 495?

Ashley probably spends her BRAVO check keeping a roof over her mother's head*.

Michael has the money.  He's just not going to spend it on Ashley or her leeching family.

*I will say it again, there is no way I would've let Ashley shade me on what housing my momma provides for me when her momma is living in a tent.

[qtpye]

On 7/27/2021 at 3:53 PM, Keywestclubkid said:

Another cheating rumor literally just popped up lol I guess giving him the booty didn’t do anything for his wandering eye 

But Mickey Darby and Ashley will never stop!

For real... it's one of the lyrics to her song. Ya'll find Charisse in the red dress.

 

Edited to add:

Candiace's song is way better and you can see most of the Potomac Howives in the end.

 

Edited July 29, 2021 by qtpye

[Baltimore Betty]

Candiace's song and video is way better than Ahsley's as well has better production value, Ashely's song was so very early 90's girl group and the most interesting part of the song was sung by someone else also, her voice was not good even with the mixing board magic they do in the studio.

Never in a million years I would like anything Candiace has a hand in but it was good, I did notice the camera man really liked that girl with the red ponytail dancing around the car, she was in focus a lot.

Side note, I just binged Girls 5eva, their fake hit music reminded me of Ashley's song.

Edited July 29, 2021 by Baltimore Betty
Forgot something.

[drivethroo]

On WWHL Andy tried to bust Candiace for using Autotune after ragging on Ashley for using Autotune.

The difference between the two is Candiace can sing WITHOUT the Autotune.

Ashley NEEDS the Autotune to make her singing somewhat acceptable.

Candiace tried to give a PR answer but if she had straight up said "I can sing without the Autotune, Ashley can't" she would've been blasted by Andy and others for her mouth and being mean to Ashley etc.

Which is what I suspect Andy wanted and Candiace knew that so she didn't give it to him.

[Rlb8031]

15 hours ago, retired watcher said:

Does Gisell and or Robyn have a podcast? If so what is the name? Thanks.

Its called Relatively Shady.

[lasu]

On 7/26/2021 at 5:56 PM, drivethroo said:

Robyn, who invested herself in a NBA player from the time she was a teen and won't let go

 

On 7/26/2021 at 5:56 PM, drivethroo said:

The only 2 this doesn't apply to is Wendy, who married her childhood sweetheart and Candiace, who married down. And Wendy is busy trying to be Dr. Thot to keep her husband's interest.

I don't understand the difference between Robyn marrying her high school sweetheart and Wendy marrying her high school sweetheart.  

Mia so far really isn't interesting me very much.  I do think about her when I go to my local Trader Joe's because there is a The Joint in that strip mall.  Her foster story and complicated feelings surrounding it were compelling, but I don't know where they could really go with that.

What is interesting to me is how Mia gets under Wendy's skin.  I don't think Wendy is playing it up for a storyline - I think Mia genuinely gets to her.  It's both embarrassing and hilarious to watch.

The candle line is one of the most bafflingly dumb things I've seen a Housewife try to launch. I bet Lynne Curtain's stupid cuffs made more money than this will.  Stupid.

 

[RealReality]

7 hours ago, qtpye said:

But Mickey Darby and Ashley will never stop!

For real... it's one of the lyrics to her song. Ya'll find Charisse in the red dress.

 

Edited to add:

Candiace's song is way better and you can see most of the Potomac Howives in the end.

 

I'm scared to listen to Ashley's song. It was that terrible combination of an awful song and a total earworm.  

[drivethroo]

35 minutes ago, lasu said:

I don't understand the difference between Robyn marrying her high school sweetheart and Wendy marrying her high school sweetheart.  

IMO Wendy had a life outside of Eddie; Robyn really doesn't have a life outside of Juan because she's made Juan the center of her world from the time she was a teenager. Robyn followed Juan from the high school to attending the same college, then marrying him, following him around.  Plus feeling guilty about losing all their money to their scammer friend.

[RealReality]

43 minutes ago, lasu said:

 

I don't understand the difference between Robyn marrying her high school sweetheart and Wendy marrying her high school sweetheart.  

Mia so far really isn't interesting me very much.  I do think about her when I go to my local Trader Joe's because there is a The Joint in that strip mall.  Her foster story and complicated feelings surrounding it were compelling, but I don't know where they could really go with that.

What is interesting to me is how Mia gets under Wendy's skin.  I don't think Wendy is playing it up for a storyline - I think Mia genuinely gets to her.  It's both embarrassing and hilarious to watch.

The candle line is one of the most bafflingly dumb things I've seen a Housewife try to launch. I bet Lynne Curtain's stupid cuffs made more money than this will.  Stupid.

 

The Mia origin story IS interesting. 

But I just thought the waver voice was an act.  Like why were they discussing her mom again? What was the made up excuse as to why they had to talk about it on camera?  Her husband is very acutely aware of the camera and looks directly at it. 

And she was trying so hard to cry for like 4 seconds.  If she wants to communicate sadness she needs candiace tissue squares. Because she can no longer produce real. tears. 

I found Kenya story interesting too WRT her mother.  But I dont remember Kenya doing a ton of crying.   She just explained her pain and it seemed authentic to me. 

*********

While I think Wendy is putting on a show for this season because was called boring, I think she just doesn't like Mia.  

And I get it.  Wendy is loyal to her friends.  She values that in people and Mia just rubs her wrong. 

But, i think she has been practicing I GOT TIME, TICK TOCK!!!!!!! to use on someone. It just happens to be Mia.  

4 degrees, a doctor, and out her screaming catch phrases. 

Wendy has more money and degrees than I do, but I'm legit embarrassed for her. How you gonna have 4 degrees and speak in catchphrases. 

******

That candle line.  I just can't with it on every single level.  

How the hell is reselling generic candles going to catapult you into being the black Martha stewart? 

[drivethroo]

3 hours ago, RealReality said:

Wendy is loyal to her friends. 

Is she really? Because if she was, she shouldn't be trying to cozy up to Karen, who tried to get her good friend Candiace fired from the show.

3 hours ago, RealReality said:

How the hell is reselling generic candles going to catapult you into being the black Martha stewart? 

This shows all Wendy knows of Martha Stewart is her product lines at Kmart and Macy's.  People liked Martha because of her homemaking & entertaining tips, not because of her pots & pans at Macys.

Pots and pans and sheets and paint were a natural progression for Martha because she cooked and decorated.  We haven't seen Wendy cook.  We haven't seen Wendy cleaning/decorating her house. So a "home essentials" line from Wendy makes no sense because #1, who is Wendy? and #2 what she's trying to sell isn't special, we can all go to Bath & Body Works or TJ Maxx and get a candle.

What she should have done is start a political podcast. She already has a built in audience and name recognition from the show.  She's scrambling because she knows she probably paid for those basketballs and booty for nothing.

[qtpye]

8 minutes ago, drivethroo said:

Is she really? Because if she was, she shouldn't be trying to cozy up to Karen, who tried to get her good friend Candiace fired from the show.

This shows all Wendy knows of Martha Stewart is her product lines at Kmart and Macy's.  People liked Martha because of her homemaking & entertaining tips, not because of her pots & pans at Macys.

Pots and pans and sheets and paint were a natural progression for Martha because she cooked and decorated.  We haven't seen Wendy cook.  We haven't seen Wendy cleaning/decorating her house. So a "home essentials" line from Wendy makes no sense because #1, who is Wendy? and #2 what she's trying to sell isn't special, we can all go to Bath & Body Works or TJ Maxx and get a candle.

What she should have done is start a political podcast. She already has a built in audience and name recognition from the show.  She's scrambling because she knows she probably paid for those basketballs and booty for nothing.

Yes, Wendy...we liked you because you are smart. There is nothing wrong with wanting to be cute but the minute you start becoming another appearance-obsessed howife is the minute you start to lose what makes you special.

I was watching a video about wealthy people who were buying extremely expensive 2nd homes/vacation homes.

I was absolutely SHOCKED that all the wives looked like normal women. Media and howives shows had led me to believe most rich women were botoxed to death, wore tons of fake hair/make-up, and had giant fake boobs/asses.

I mean, I should know better but it was so dang refreshing.

[Vanderboom]

34 minutes ago, drivethroo said:

Is she really? Because if she was, she shouldn't be trying to cozy up to Karen, who tried to get her good friend Candiace fired from the show.

This shows all Wendy knows of Martha Stewart is her product lines at Kmart and Macy's.  People liked Martha because of her homemaking & entertaining tips, not because of her pots & pans at Macys.

Pots and pans and sheets and paint were a natural progression for Martha because she cooked and decorated.  We haven't seen Wendy cook.  We haven't seen Wendy cleaning/decorating her house. So a "home essentials" line from Wendy makes no sense because #1, who is Wendy? and #2 what she's trying to sell isn't special, we can all go to Bath & Body Works or TJ Maxx and get a candle.

What she should have done is start a political podcast. She already has a built in audience and name recognition from the show.  She's scrambling because she knows she probably paid for those basketballs and booty for nothing.

As they say on Shark Tank, she has a product, not a business. I'm surprised and disappointed that Wendy of the Four Degrees is coming off as so shallow and weak. Why not at least do homework about business plans and needs analysis? Presenting a generic candle with a one-paragraph description? Seriously? I can see why Eddie is pissed at Wendy's playing dumb with their money.

[drivethroo]

3 hours ago, qtpye said:

I was watching a video about wealthy people who were buying extremely expensive 2nd homes/vacation homes.

I was absolutely SHOCKED that all the wives looked like normal women. Media and howives shows had led me to believe most rich women were botoxed to death, wore tons of fake hair/make-up, and had giant fake boobs/asses.

Wealthy people don't have to floss.  Rich people do.

[goofygirl]

7 hours ago, RealReality said:

The Mia origin story IS interesting. 

But I just thought the waver voice was an act.  Like why were they discussing her mom again? What was the made up excuse as to why they had to talk about it on camera?  Her husband is very acutely aware of the camera and looks directly at it. 

And she was trying so hard to cry for like 4 seconds.  If she wants to communicate sadness she needs candiace tissue squares. Because she can no longer produce real. tears. 

I found Kenya story interesting too WRT her mother.  But I dont remember Kenya doing a ton of crying.   She just explained her pain and it seemed authentic to me. 

*********

While I think Wendy is putting on a show for this season because was called boring, I think she just doesn't like Mia.  

And I get it.  Wendy is loyal to her friends.  She values that in people and Mia just rubs her wrong. 

But, i think she has been practicing I GOT TIME, TICK TOCK!!!!!!! to use on someone. It just happens to be Mia.  

4 degrees, a doctor, and out her screaming catch phrases. 

Wendy has more money and degrees than I do, but I'm legit embarrassed for her. How you gonna have 4 degrees and speak in catchphrases. 

******

That candle line.  I just can't with it on every single level.  

How the hell is reselling generic candles going to catapult you into being the black Martha stewart? 

It's not.

[RealReality]

4 hours ago, drivethroo said:

Is she really? Because if she was, she shouldn't be trying to cozy up to Karen, who tried to get her good friend Candiace fired from the show.

This shows all Wendy knows of Martha Stewart is her product lines at Kmart and Macy's.  People liked Martha because of her homemaking & entertaining tips, not because of her pots & pans at Macys.

Pots and pans and sheets and paint were a natural progression for Martha because she cooked and decorated.  We haven't seen Wendy cook.  We haven't seen Wendy cleaning/decorating her house. So a "home essentials" line from Wendy makes no sense because #1, who is Wendy? and #2 what she's trying to sell isn't special, we can all go to Bath & Body Works or TJ Maxx and get a candle.

What she should have done is start a political podcast. She already has a built in audience and name recognition from the show.  She's scrambling because she knows she probably paid for those basketballs and booty for nothing.

We haven't even seen Wendy make a damn candle!

She hasn't even been spotted putting a candle in a box.  

If she wants to salvage this idea, what Wendy should do is a series of web videos making candles.  

I make soap and candles are a kissing cousin.  I feel like it's not a super duper hard craft to learn.  

From the world of soaping I can tell you that people love watching people craft online. 

At least it would give her some cred and maybe make this look slightly less ridiculous. 

[JonnieUniteUs]

2 hours ago, RealReality said:

We haven't even seen Wendy make a damn candle!

She hasn't even been spotted putting a candle in a box.  

If she wants to salvage this idea, what Wendy should do is a series of web videos making candles.  

I make soap and candles are a kissing cousin.  I feel like it's not a super duper hard craft to learn.  

From the world of soaping I can tell you that people love watching people craft online. 

At least it would give her some cred and maybe make this look slightly less ridiculous. 

Someone here posted that Wendy should have (some of?) her candle scents be specific to Nigerian flora etc.

That seems like a great idea to set them apart from the general types we often see.

Perhaps her glass container designs for the candles could be inspired by Nigerian bright, beautiful colors and design patterns?

 

 

 

[StillHere]

On 7/29/2021 at 1:33 AM, drivethroo said:

Ashley probably spends her BRAVO check keeping a roof over here mother's head. *

*I will say it again, there is no way I would've let Ashley shade me on what housing my momma provides for me when her momma is living in a tent.

Candiace spends her check keeping a roof over her husband's head.

[LaurelleJ]

I feel like Wendy thought that anything related to her degrees/political career wouldn't appeal to the majority of the Potomac audience. I would personally be interested, but I'm also in the minority in that I prefer the housewives show to focus on the lavish lifestyles of the women like their expensive homes, cars, clothes, and vacations with the light shade, and I don't prefer the constant drama and clearly producer driven storylines. With that said, this candle thing isn't it. I know it's supposed to be a whole line and she's starting with candles, but it's so so random and poorly presented. It seems as though they told her last minute that she would push it. I agree with someone above who said that she could base it off of her culture, making Nigerian luxury products accessible to Americans, or something like that. Hopefully that's coming, because right now it's not impressive. 

[Stats Queen]

4 hours ago, LaurelleJ said:

I feel like Wendy thought that anything related to her degrees/political career wouldn't appeal to the majority of the Potomac audience. I would personally be interested, but I'm also in the minority in that I prefer the housewives show to focus on the lavish lifestyles of the women like their expensive homes, cars, clothes, and vacations with the light shade, and I don't prefer the constant drama and clearly producer driven storylines. With that said, this candle thing isn't it. I know it's supposed to be a whole line and she's starting with candles, but it's so so random and poorly presented. It seems as though they told her last minute that she would push it. I agree with someone above who said that she could base it off of her culture, making Nigerian luxury products accessible to Americans, or something like that. Hopefully that's coming, because right now it's not impressive. 

I loved that Wendy had a whole different background and amazing education and experiences. I thought it was a refreshing concept, she was much better as a concept…. 
She lost me in the first season with her throwing out her four degrees to into most of her personal  interactions. I respect her education. I have a PhD and I have amazing expertise in my field, but I leave it on the field.

It makes me sad that she did such a 180 and totally abandoned that education. 

I feel that Wendy doesn’t have her own concept of who she is.
I think she was defined by her parent’s expectations of what she should be and then transferred this expectation of what she thought others in the reality TV wanted her to be.

It makes me really sad because I don’t think she understands who she actually is outside of external pressures.

[LaurelleJ]

1 hour ago, Stats Queen said:

I loved that Wendy had a whole different background and amazing education and experiences. I thought it was a refreshing concept, she was much better as a concept…. 
She lost me in the first season with her throwing out her four degrees to into most of her personal  interactions. I respect her education. I have a PhD and I have amazing expertise in my field, but I leave it on the field.

It makes me sad that she did such a 180 and totally abandoned that education. 

I feel that Wendy doesn’t have her own concept of who she is.
I think she was defined by her parent’s expectations of what she should be and then transferred this expectation of what she thought others in the reality TV wanted her to be.

It makes me really sad because I don’t think she understands who she actually is outside of externalI  pressures.

I agree with all of this. I have a PhD in the sciences and I also leave it in the lab, I never take it to social settings. I thought it was great for Bravo to put a woman of color with a PhD on the housewives. I think it was a bit of an experiment with them, kind of like housewives meets married to medicine to see how she would get along with the housewives. I really think that Bravo told her to lean on her degrees, saw the reaction of the fans, then told her to back off of it and just give straight housewives drama. Reminds me of the disaster that was the real housewives of DC, although Potomac is turning into the real housewives of Maryland and Virginia. I have to wonder why Wendy agreed to do this show. I just can't see a distinguished professor at Hopkins signing on to do a reality show, and I can't see a stuffy place like Hopkins being ok with it. Maybe she plans to use the show to leave academia completely and it's a slow burn. 

[amarante]

On 7/29/2021 at 8:26 AM, drivethroo said:

IMO Wendy had a life outside of Eddie; Robyn really doesn't have a life outside of Juan because she's made Juan the center of her world from the time she was a teenager. Robyn followed Juan from the high school to attending the same college, then marrying him, following him around.  Plus feeling guilty about losing all their money to their scammer friend.

But that doesn't make her a gold digger in the way it is generally used when women hook up with pro athletes. Monique is in that category - when Robyn was in hook school, Juan might have been the BMOC but that is true of many classic quarterback/cheerleader high school relationships. Her family seems to have nurtured him for whatever reason although that isn't discussed as much as it was during the first season when it was a really plot point but it doesn't seem like she hooked up with him because she saw a pot of gold.

I think she probably has a lot of guilt about losing all the money. Based on the first season of Atlanta, the basketball pros have better contracts and so unless they are complete dunces, they have enough money when their career is over to do okay. Evidently it is different for football players as they can be out on the street relatively quickly without much money to soften the landing. I think there was something between DeShawn who was married to the basketball player and they had money and someone who was married to an ex-football player.

There is some kind of unhealthy dynamic going on in terms of Robyn being emotionally vested in a relationship that she should have left behind a long time ago. But that also seems to be true of Gizelle and Jamal - whether Gizelle pretended to have the relationship solely for the show, I suspect that she hasn't cut the emotional strings completely.

I have said it before but I don't understand why these beautiful intelligent fabulous women hook up with such terrible men. 

[sATL]

3 hours ago, amarante said:

But that doesn't make her a gold digger in the way it is generally used when women hook up with pro athletes. Monique is in that category - when Robyn was in hook school, Juan might have been the BMOC but that is true of many classic quarterback/cheerleader high school relationships. Her family seems to have nurtured him for whatever reason although that isn't discussed as much as it was during the first season when it was a really plot point but it doesn't seem like she hooked up with him because she saw a pot of gold.

I think she probably has a lot of guilt about losing all the money. Based on the first season of Atlanta, the basketball pros have better contracts and so unless they are complete dunces, they have enough money when their career is over to do okay. Evidently it is different for football players as they can be out on the street relatively quickly without much money to soften the landing. I think there was something between DeShawn who was married to the basketball player and they had money and someone who was married to an ex-football player.

There is some kind of unhealthy dynamic going on in terms of Robyn being emotionally vested in a relationship that she should have left behind a long time ago. But that also seems to be true of Gizelle and Jamal - whether Gizelle pretended to have the relationship solely for the show, I suspect that she hasn't cut the emotional strings completely.

I have said it before but I don't understand why these beautiful intelligent fabulous women hook up with such terrible men. 

Is it maybe the for the kids ?

Robyn as a true single mom is  a little hard to picture.  I think she gets overwhelmed and overloaded easily - to the point she shuts down. She was complaining that the routine of school-basketball-dinner-homework-sleep and repeat during the pandemic was too much.  Didn't exactly know what would be the major change (in the daily schedule) if school was in-person...

With Giz - her kids a little older, therefore she is close to the finish line, but she seems to think she needs to create a family unit for her girls - like let me give your dad "one more try" - I owe it to them, to show them what a family is, before they go off and have relationships of their own.

RE: football. I think it depends upon the player, position and team.  Chris S  I think he worked his way up to bigger $$ after his initial contract. 

Edited July 31, 2021 by sATL

[eleanorofaquitaine]

I can't stand it whenever any woman on one of these shows thinks she is so intimidating. It used to drive me crazy when Dorinda would basically threaten the other women on RHONY and that's basically how I feel about Wenday's little tirade against Mia. Wendy, you aren't that tough or intimidating. 

I also think that Gizelle and Robyn's reactions weren't about them not being "loyal" to Wendy. I think that Gizelle was ready to confront Mia, but she couldn't get a word in edgewise over Wendy's ranting. And I think that was frustrating to Gizelle because whatever her flaws are, Gizelle's pretty good at artfully eliciting good tv with her approach. It's shady but it's usually pretty effective. 

IMO, I think Wendy should skip the candles entirely but I agree with everyone else that she should be drawing on her Nigerian heritage to develop a home essentials line (because it would likely be unique to the market). It's clear that she hasn't done any market research but IMO, she should consider figuring out where there is a hole in the market and then maybe design a line of Nigerian-inspired products for it - as far as I know, there isn't anything on the market like that. I have to agree give it to Karen, she was giving her some real world advice that Wendy doesn't seem to want to hear. 

ETA: Like others, I think that Candiace handled the meeting with Karen in a mature way. I suspect she has gotten a lot of therapy since the confrontation with Monique and I think she has likely benefitted from it quite a bit. 

Edited August 1, 2021 by eleanorofaquitaine

[howiveaddict]

Maybe Mia sent a cyst and decease letter.

 

Edited August 1, 2021 by howiveaddict

[RealReality]

On 7/30/2021 at 6:07 PM, Stats Queen said:

I loved that Wendy had a whole different background and amazing education and experiences. I thought it was a refreshing concept, she was much better as a concept…. 
She lost me in the first season with her throwing out her four degrees to into most of her personal  interactions. I respect her education. I have a PhD and I have amazing expertise in my field, but I leave it on the field.

It makes me sad that she did such a 180 and totally abandoned that education. 

I feel that Wendy doesn’t have her own concept of who she is.
I think she was defined by her parent’s expectations of what she should be and then transferred this expectation of what she thought others in the reality TV wanted her to be.

It makes me really sad because I don’t think she understands who she actually is outside of external pressures.

One of the things I really liked about Wendy was her ability to laugh at herself.  

I think its a rarity on these types of shows.  But I loved her for laughingly joining in the slither Congo line, even though she was the butt of the joke.  She has laughed at going overboard about the degrees and the doctor thing.  

What Wendy didn't recognize was that there would be a portion of the viewership that would snark on her and I totally think she took it to heart.  

The new look, the new "business" the new tee shirt ready catchphrases, the new beef that went from 0-100 in two minutes are all Wendy becoming a cookie cutter "housewife" and it sucks.  I hope she finds a middle ground.  

I think she looks amazing though. 

 

[dosodog]

I hope she doesn't blow it and gets to be back for a third season to have that middle ground.

 

[nb360]

On 7/30/2021 at 10:05 PM, LaurelleJ said:

I thought it was great for Bravo to put a woman of color with a PhD on the housewives. I think it was a bit of an experiment with them, kind of like housewives meets married to medicine to see how she would get along with the housewives.

I've written this before and I wish Bravo would do this: I would love to see a "Real Housewives of Academia." People have no idea how shady academic people (women and men) can be.

This is why I'm looking forward to Sandra Oh's tv show, The Chair.