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Drogo
Drogo

You thought I got paid?  This was just part of the terms of my parole. 

Drogo
Drogo

Here's one after I was unfairly forced to give up my extramarital affair with Lady George Burns.  A BLOW OF EPIC PROPORTIONS.

OnceSane
OnceSane

I'm here, I'm weird and I'm your mod for all the 90 Days....     ...what a blow you all have suffered. 

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Lola16

Lola16

Don't worry - TLC has a special that's sure to take the spotlight away from 90 day.

 

My Husband's Not Gay premieres January 11 at 10pm.

 

 

I think that's just a one-time show, not a series, right? And protestors have been working hard to keep it off the air.

 

 

I shudder to think how this claim might be "proven" on a TV show.

It's a one hour special.  Featuring Mormons!  And married kinda-gay men!  Who are sexually attracted to men (which is OK according to some Mormon leader as long as they don't act on it) and married to women.  Just toss in some polygamy and little people, maybe from overseas and it's a ratings juggernaut!

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Lola16

Lola16

Did you see the episode where the guy's eyeball popped out?

Ha!  No.  Just watched one episode where a fireman choked on a ball gag in his own firehouse.  Another guy tore a brain blood vessel giving oral too enthusiastically.  And my favorite, some dude rubbed himself with watermelon not knowing that his grade school crush that he just reunited with, is deathly allergic to watermelon.  The acting is oh so bad that it's funny!

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TigerLily20

TigerLily20

I am so glad to see others have the guilty pleasure that is "sex sent me to the ER", I can't watch the actual untold stories of the ER, those freak me out.....ad wacky sex and horrible acting and I can watch it lol.  My husband will watch it also but usually ends up freaking out during at least one of the stories.  I don't think there is a thread on here for this show....

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KarmaG

KarmaG

How about Sex Sent Me to the ER?    Watching an episode now and it's cringe-tastic!

Saw 1/4 of an episode. Shows like that just prove how desperate some people are to get on tv. I want a show that gives me the overall impression that it's actually real (even though I know production plays a big part, I don't want to see it shown in an obvious manner). I am giving Ultimate Survival Alaska a second chance after them showing just how over involved production was last season. 

 

I can't stand overly produced or blatantly fake/reenactment shows (like almost everything on TruTv) i.e. Lizard Lick Towing etc.

cooksdelight

cooksdelight

I watched some of Alaska Bush People yesterday, and there was actually an episode that explored the behind-the-camera activities and how the family adjusted to being filmed. It was pretty fascinating hearing someone talk about having a camera shoved in their face when they are out hunting in the woods. I hadn't watched the show at all before seeing that episode, but it intrigued me enough to watch a few episodes.

KarmaG

KarmaG

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I watched some of Alaska Bush People yesterday, and there was actually an episode that explored the behind-the-camera activities and how the family adjusted to being filmed. It was pretty fascinating hearing someone talk about having a camera shoved in their face when they are out hunting in the woods. I hadn't watched the show at all before seeing that episode, but it intrigued me enough to watch a few episodes.

Oooh that show was proven over the top fake already. They've given interviews even explaining it. The kids made up their own accent, which is why none of them have the same accent even though they are a family. Was into that show for the first episode, got a hint of the fakeness, watched a second and was over it.

 

ETA: He's a childrens book author and helped come up with their story lines.

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Lola16

Lola16

Anyone watch the other night I think it was on TLC or Discover about the Secret Sex Lives. The man had a fetish about feeding a fat lady and the fat lady had an obssesion with being fed and one day weighing 1000 pounds and being immobile. They both were turned on by each other. It bothered me because he was feeding her to death literally. She already weighed 600 pounds. He was normal size. They had been together 4 years. There was a psychologist that gave commentary about the fetish saying it was about control and the man needing power over someone totally dependent on him. I watched most of the time in disbelief that this realy existed but apparently there is a feeder/feedee community date site. Wow  I have been living under a rock I guess because I have never heard of ANYTHING like that! Did anyone see that or the one about the guy making love to his car LOL

Is the woman from NJ?  There was a story here about her a few years ago and she makes money somehow by eating and videoing it.

okerry

okerry

Anyone watch the other night I think it was on TLC or Discover about the Secret Sex Lives. The man had a fetish about feeding a fat lady and the fat lady had an obssesion with being fed and one day weighing 1000 pounds and being immobile. They both were turned on by each other. It bothered me because he was feeding her to death literally. She already weighed 600 pounds. He was normal size. They had been together 4 years. There was a psychologist that gave commentary about the fetish saying it was about control and the man needing power over someone totally dependent on him. I watched most of the time in disbelief that this realy existed but apparently there is a feeder/feedee community date site. Wow  I have been living under a rock I guess because I have never heard of ANYTHING like that! Did anyone see that or the one about the guy making love to his car LOL

I've seen a few episodes of *600-lb Life* and I've noticed that several of the obese women have men who leave them when the women start losing the weight. It's a very bizarre thing. Apparently the men have such a fetish about huge women that they don't want them any other way. How terribly sad for these women, to find out they were nothing but a fetish object to someone who cared absolutely nothing about their well-being.

cooksdelight

cooksdelight

Did anyone see what has to be the Queen Mother of Reality Trash - *My Husband's Not Gay,* on TLC just last week? I actually wish this would become a series, partly for the snark and partly for the fact that it does expose how very selfish and cruel it is of these men to marry a well-meaning woman under these circumstances.

I actually found it fascinating. And the women seem to be very happy. It's not like their husbands are out having sex with strange men they pick up in a clothing store. That scene was funny, trying to get the single guy friend dressed up for his blind date. I commend him for telling the girl upfront that he has same sex attraction. She knows going in what she's getting.

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okerry

okerry

***I actually found it fascinating. And the women seem to be very happy. It's not like their husbands are out having sex with strange men they pick up in a clothing store. That scene was funny, trying to get the single guy friend dressed up for his blind date. I commend him for telling the girl upfront that he has same sex attraction. She knows going in what she's getting.***

 

Oh, cooks, I totally disagree . . . those women are desperately trying to be Good Wives by going along with whatever their husbands want. I'm sure these women are quite sheltered if they grew up in the Mormon church and I don't think they've got a clue what they're in for, but they're about to find out. The one whose hubby already had a "sleepover that got out of control" in their own home is learning fast, especially now that he wants to go camping with some other men . . . did you see the look on her face when he said that?

 

The woman on the blind date is probably also taking this guy's words at face value and commending his honesty -- but she is too naive to realize that he will never, ever give up his homosexuality and it will only become a stronger and stronger pull on him as time goes on. These men will not ever be able to love their wives as a wife should be loved, either emotionally or physically. And that's just hideously selfish on the part of the men. They get the best of both worlds (married and gay single) while their wives have to make do with crumbs and put on a happy face while they do it.

 

I saw something on, I think, Facebook (sorry, I don't have a link to back it up) that said what usually happens with these so-called marriages is that the men stay around until the kids leave, and then they take off to go "find themselves." The women are essentially abandoned while the men go out and live the gay life they've really wanted all along. The women are often left with severe psychological trauma and guilt, as if being dumped isn't enough.

 

It's sickening, but that's why I actually hope it does become a series -- to expose how selfish and cruel this really is.

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portfino

portfino

I have a question based on the post in the Update thread regarding Mohamed's 2 mistresses.

 

What is it about him? If I were a rich, lonely reality TV fan, I would have to go through The Bachelorette rejects, the annual hot guy on BB, ANTM is co-ed now, etc. etc. before I went to a 90 Day Fiance. Are we just not hearing about their sugar mommas? Or is there something I'm missing?

Hero

Hero

I have a question based on the post in the Update thread regarding Mohamed's 2 mistresses.

 

What is it about him? If I were a rich, lonely reality TV fan, I would have to go through The Bachelorette rejects, the annual hot guy on BB, ANTM is co-ed now, etc. etc. before I went to a 90 Day Fiance. Are we just not hearing about their sugar mommas? Or is there something I'm missing?

I think these women find Mohamed "exotic." But, I also think that they are similar to Danielle in the sense that they are lonely and think that no guy wants them. They see Danielle on TV and think if she can get Mohamed, so can I. What they don't realize is that Mohamed doesn't love them. They probably flaunted some money in his face and he came running for the wrong reasons. These women are so deluded that they would do anything for him.

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funky-rat

funky-rat

Mormon guy and Aleksandra- Why are they acting like this girl was shooting heroin and making donkey porn? She drank and danced with her clothes on, that doesn't seem that bad to me.

 

Like any other religion, I've known some lovely Mormons, and some that are so holier-than-thou that it makes my head spin.  I went to school with one.  She hung out with us because no one would have her, and we felt sorry for her, but quickly grew weary of hearing "You shouldn't drink that" (soda, tea, etc), "You shouldn't smoke" (I didn't, but some friends did), "Watch your language!", etc.  She lectured me once because I gave a friend a Chippendale's birthday card, and her offended eyes saw it.  She had a tragedy one year, and we pulled together and donated clothing and things to her.  She had the nerve to complain about the stuff that was given to her.  I cut ties at that point.  Maybe some of the show is scripted, but maybe they're like the girl I knew.  She was convinced we were all going to hell and she wasn't because they were the preferred religion.

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Hero

Hero

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Like any other religion, I've known some lovely Mormons, and some that are so holier-than-thou that it makes my head spin. I went to school with one. She hung out with us because no one would have her, and we felt sorry for her, but quickly grew weary of hearing "You shouldn't drink that" (soda, tea, etc), "You shouldn't smoke" (I didn't, but some friends did), "Watch your language!", etc. She lectured me once because I gave a friend a Chippendale's birthday card, and her offended eyes saw it. She had a tragedy one year, and we pulled together and donated clothing and things to her. She had the nerve to complain about the stuff that was given to her. I cut ties at that point. Maybe some of the show is scripted, but maybe they're like the girl I knew. She was convinced we were all going to hell and she wasn't because they were the preferred religion.

You sound like an awesome friend :) your humor seems similar to mine.

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funky-rat

funky-rat

You sound like an awesome friend :) your humor seems similar to mine.

I try to be.  And I try to see the best in everyone, but man, that girl wore me out - it's hard to have to change everything about yourself while someone else is around who is offended by everything.  I'm not sure whatever happened to her.  I know she wanted to move to Utah (obviously), but I don't think that ever happened.  Like I said, the last straw for me was when they ended up with nothing due to a tragedy, we all pitched in and helped out, and she complained.  I think the church will forgive you if you wear a shirt you don't feel is in-line with your beliefs if it's all you have, and it was given to you with love.  IIRC, there wasn't anything wrong with it, but she picked it apart.

In our yearbook, under her photo, where we had quotes, hers says "WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE!".  True story.

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BradandJanet

BradandJanet

Hello. Because I have time on my hands this weekend.

 

Final Fanaticism I: "The Quest for Mohamed." Danielle and lonely women with borderline personality disorder stalk Tunisian Love Rat Mohamed. The adventure begins.
Final Fanaticism II: "The End of Mohamed." They find him. And each other. Epic battle scenes. 
Final Fanaticism III: "The Rise of the Love Rat." Mohamed has escaped the melee and overcomes obstacles to get back to Ohio to check his mail.  
Final Fanaticism IV: "The Cult of the Green Card." Mohamed establishes a personal ministry in Ohio. New female followers from all over the country bring their bank account information. Mohamed marries all of them who are citizens and they follow the traditional marriage customs of his country. If they're under 30, there are some new traditions. Players decide. 

Final Fanaticism V: The Revenge of the Green Card. Danielle shows up with her army and storms the retreat. Epic battle scenes.

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Aw my lahgs

Aw my lahgs

Thanks Nutella that explains a lot especially airfare and helps me see what it's like there

Couldn't help but think It sounds a lot like the America the GOP envisions for its citizens in the good ol USA getting rid of that pesky middle class and all.

Please don't say that :) The United States is amazing, anyone can become what they dream of and even people with simple jobs lead a dignified life... Not luxurious but with dignity.

Colombia is messed up, always has been and always will be. Especially my city and department which has been plagued by the mafia, corruption and tremendous violence. It's a "developing" country but will it ever be developed? I doubt it lol.

I mean you can buy a lot of stuff there that we have in America too, hang out at nice places as long as you have money. Colombia is a classist society, it's how I grew up, what I'm used to and what gives me comfort. For Americans, however, it's very foreign. For that reason they almost always end up with a very low class, low cultured girl :(.

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RCharter

RCharter

I'm a little more sympathetic to Kyle. The apartment is a pig sty to be sure. However, the walk down Bourbon St reeked of TLC manipulation, and while this admittedly comes from about 15 minutes of total airtime, I'm pretty sure the parents stuff is on them not him.

I love New Orleans, in part because its just a city that shouldn't work.  Its dirty, its messy, and it does often have faint overtones of liquor and urine.  But it works.  It has such a personality as a city.

 

I remember taking clients to a fancy restaurant on Bourbon Street called "The Court of the Two (or Three) Sisters"  And it was a classy place, easily $40- $50+ a plate.  I was sitting there having this expensive dinner with clients and out of nowhere this mangy street cat just showed up and started to casually walk the table.  And no one cared!  There was no one who was like "we gotta shoo this cat away" it was just all acceptable because that is New Orleans to me.  You can pay that much for a dinner, at a classy restaurant and have a mangy cat patrolling the tables.  It somehow, amazingly, added to the charm...although I did shoo the cat away from my table because I don't know what it had and I didn't want an allergy situation.

 

I mean, in Southern California people would pitch a fit if a street cat suddenly showed up at the Standard or at the Ivy, or at Bottega Louie's.  Even at the expensive hipster places someone would have an issue.  But in New Orleans....it was whatever....

 

You can have that classy restaurant on Bourbon street, not even 500 feet away from the part of the street where you'll see a drag queen in 6 inch platform heels directing traffic in a mini skirt!  It shouldn't work!  None of it should work but it does and it somehow comes off charming.

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Raja

Raja

Isn't buying a spouse illegal?  Like slavery or prostitution?

 

 

Mail order brides have been around for a while.  My son had a preschool classmate and the mom was very young, fashionably dressed and beautiful and from Russia.  The dad was much older and very nerdy and unattractive - it was so obvious what was going on there.  Interestingly, I was just watching Forensic Files the other night and there was an episode about a mail order bride that had gone missing and turned up murdered by the husband.  She was from the same town in the Phillipines as Nikki and her predecessor.  In those days, they were from mail order catalogues, now they have internet "dating" sites.

Only a mail order bride is not being bought anymore than someone on match.com or its competitors are being turned out as a  prostitute. Many cultures do in a way "sell off" daughters and sons when the families get together to negotiate bride prices and terms of the marriage. But the "mail order bride" is merely being put in touch with someone predisposed to marry because nations do not allow girl/boyfriends to immigrate to be together, only spouses get that privalege.

okerry

okerry

LUCIANO, ON 10 NOV 2015 - 2:47 PM, SAID:
How would that apply to Aleksandra? She had someone helping her pay her way over here - if she couldn't come up with the money, her fiance would most likely help out. She lives with his grandma. She doesn't need a pimp to help her out financially, she has someone who has shown the government that he could support her.

So according to some, it's more likely that this Angolan student, who is attending school in Prague presumably on a student visa, became a pimp to a Russian student who is also in Prague presumably on a student visa (which means both people showed that they had sufficient funds and available accommodations before getting approved) and their grand plan is to get the Russian to marry an American, get her green card, remain married to this man for at least three years in order to become a citizen, divorce him, apply for, say, a K1 visa to get Angolan dude over here IF she has the income, and not trip up any fraud suspicions on the part of the Immigration. And I say a K1 visa because Ary is not related to her and she is not his employer, so that cuts off the two main ways to sponsor someone. While I'm sure there may be ways to get a non-relative/employee over here, I'm guessing "He was my best friend during the years I was in Prague" is not going to cut it as an adequate reason.

All of this is more likely than two international university students who are studying in the same foreign city, and have at least one common interest in dancing, becoming friends?

 

 

okerry said:

I didn't say it was for sure; I said it was possible. Far stranger things have happened with this marriage brokering, and it can be hard for some of us who where born and raised in the U.S. to understand.

Everyone seems so so very worried about getting caught in fraud and then being deported - but I can tell you, L'Emigre does virtually nothing about people who aren't supposed to be in this country. My ex-bro-in-law met a Filipina girl who was already living in his podunk Midwestern U.S. town. She'd come here on a K-1 visa to marry Bachelor #1, but ended up not marrying him on claims he was "abusive."

Enter Bachelor #2, my former bro-in-law. They meet, they like each other, they have a child together. But they can't get married because she's gotten a deportation notice due to not marrying Bachelor #1.

I saw the court papers and legal notices because my ex-husband was trying to help them figure why marrying Bachelor #2 - my ex's brother - wasn't good enough to keep her in this country. The answer was, "Because she didn't come here to marry your brother. She came here to marry Bachelor #1, but she didn't, so now her K1 visa has expired and she's supposed to go back to the Phiippines and start over."

Did she? Naw. What happened to her? Nothing. She just stayed anyway and nobody did a thing. Last I heard, she married my ex-bro-in-law and was living in a trailer with him and their child.

Don't underestimate the lengths people will go to in order to live in the U.S. This little TV show isn't presenting the half of it, even with people like Dani and Mo.

Raja

Raja

Everyone seems so so very worried about getting caught in fraud and then being deported - but I can tell you, L'Emigre does virtually nothing about people who aren't supposed to be in this country. My ex-bro-in-law met a Filipina girl who was already living in his podunk Midwestern U.S. town. She'd come here on a K-1 visa to marry Bachelor #1, but ended up not marrying him on claims he was "abusive."

Enter Bachelor #2, my former bro-in-law. They meet, they like each other, they have a child together. But they can't get married because she's gotten a deportation notice due to not marrying Bachelor #1.

I saw the court papers and legal notices because my ex-husband was trying to help them figure why marrying Bachelor #2 - my ex's brother - wasn't good enough to keep her in this country. The answer was, "Because she didn't come here to marry your brother. She came here to marry Bachelor #1, but she didn't, so now her K1 visa has expired and she's supposed to go back to the Phiippines and start over."

Did she? Naw. What happened to her? Nothing. She just stayed anyway and nobody did a thing. Last I heard, she married my ex-bro-in-law and was living in a trailer with him and their child.

Don't underestimate the lengths people will go to in order to live in the U.S. This little TV show isn't presenting the half of it, even with people like Dani and Mo.

What happened is she is an illegal alien, complete with the proverbial anchor baby but low on the enforcement priority list.
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Luciano

Luciano

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okerry said:

I didn't say it was for sure; I said it was possible. Far stranger things have happened with this marriage brokering, and it can be hard for some of us who where born and raised in the U.S. to understand.

Everyone seems so so very worried about getting caught in fraud and then being deported - but I can tell you, L'Emigre does virtually nothing about people who aren't supposed to be in this country. My ex-bro-in-law met a Filipina girl who was already living in his podunk Midwestern U.S. town. She'd come here on a K-1 visa to marry Bachelor #1, but ended up not marrying him on claims he was "abusive."

Enter Bachelor #2, my former bro-in-law. They meet, they like each other, they have a child together. But they can't get married because she's gotten a deportation notice due to not marrying Bachelor #1.

I saw the court papers and legal notices because my ex-husband was trying to help them figure why marrying Bachelor #2 - my ex's brother - wasn't good enough to keep her in this country. The answer was, "Because she didn't come here to marry your brother. She came here to marry Bachelor #1, but she didn't, so now her K1 visa has expired and she's supposed to go back to the Phiippines and start over."

Did she? Naw. What happened to her? Nothing. She just stayed anyway and nobody did a thing. Last I heard, she married my ex-bro-in-law and was living in a trailer with him and their child.

Don't underestimate the lengths people will go to in order to live in the U.S. This little TV show isn't presenting the half of it, even with people like Dani and Mo.

But that's nothing like this scenario. In your woman's case, she came over here to marry a citizen and was already here when she decided to marry another citizen. The Aleksandra scenario would involve her bringing in a foreigner on her own with the government's approval in the first place.

I just think it's baffling that people are assuming that this young guy, who we saw less than a minute of and who spent half that time talking about dancing (after we saw him introduced as a dance partner by a woman so obsessed with dance that her Mormon fiance tried to give salsa a shot and after we saw footage of them dancing and a shot of him dancing in his seat), could be (or is most likely, according to another person) a pimp. What is it about being an international student in Prague that says "pimp"? Is it because he is friends with a Russian girl?

And then these scenarios assume that a black man that has studied abroad and lives in cosmopolitan Prague (and already had the money to make the initial trip to study in the first place) wants to live in the United States.

As for Mo and Dani, just by what the show showed us, it was a wonky situation. Aleksandra/Josh seem more like Amy/Danny.

 

[Actually, does this belong in the Aleksandra/Josh topic?]

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BethBud

BethBud

@okerry - you asked on the other thread what other ways there are - there is the spousal visa where the couple gets married in the foreigner's home country and he/she has to stay there and wait for the spousal visa to come through. Once it's approved, they take off for the States and get their green card upon arrival. In my case, I came to visit my sister in the States, had 6 months on my visa. Met my husband, we fell in love, talked about going back to South Africa to get married. We spoke with an immigration lawyer who said it's easier to just get married here and do an adjustment of status from visitor to family based green card. If we did get married in South Africa, we'd be separated for the first 8+ months of our marriage. I'd have to stay there and my husband would have to come back to the States to work and pay bills. No ways we'd be able to pay for his house and credit card on a South African salary (the South African Rand is very weak against the US dollar). We also thought about doing the K-1 but again we'd be separated for months. Since I only met him after I came here, we could legally do an adjustment of status. We had to prove that I didn't enter the US with the intent to get married. It took less than 4 months to get my green card after we got married. Three years later I was eligible to apply for citizenship.

 

We now have two young children. Although I miss South Africa a lot, I do enjoy living in the US. I won't mind moving to Cape Town for a few years though with my husband and kids :)

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LillysPad

LillysPad

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I am leaning towards there was a mix-up at the hospital or an adoption that is going unmentioned or something. Because Loren looks NOTHING like her mother or sister.  And usually (not always, of course) when one kid resembles one parent that much, usually the other kids will at least have some resemblance to that parent, too.  Or maybe look like the other parent or something, I don't know.  But, man ...  Loren looks like she got dropped off in a basket on their doorstep.  No biological relation to anyone in that house at all. 

 

Would it be unfeeling of me to say she is lucky?  sorry

 

 

DNA is funny that way. I thought the same thing, then my husband reminded me of of friends son who is a carbon copy of his Grandfather. Not his parents or siblings. When he was tiny, people thought his Mom was the family's maid.

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KarmaG

KarmaG

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That reminds me of a funny Boca story ... my in-laws live there, and my MIL was a real estate agent in Boca.  She sold houses in a very fancy development while they were in the building stage, and when some people who bought there went to close or move in or whatever, they discovered to their HORROR they actually had a Delray Beach address!!! omg the shame of it all .... their houses were located just a smidgen over the line and they actually SUED the development for misrepresentation.  Having a Boca address is truly that important to some people.  They will settle for less house if they have to, just so they can "live in Boca."

 

I never truly believe when a show says someone lives in a certain city anymore. Last season on Newlyweds: The First Year (on Bravo) they said a couple lived in one large city and locals watching realized they lived elsewhere. *shrugs* I think they just go with the more "known" names.

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