2020 Squad and Social Media

[klh25]

Was reading an article about the tornado in Tyler yesterday and saw a familiar face in the ads....

[Lona]

2 hours ago, UnicornKicksBack said:

Kasharas been the only one for years and years with any personality. 

Yeah and they keep trying to recreate that. Tried with Victoria. Tried with Kat. 

[Dr. Manhattan]

On 6/7/2021 at 4:50 PM, dbell1 said:

Marvel comic characters are posting

Hello. 
 

I come from the DC Universe, not Marvel. 
 

Thank You. 
 

Gooodbye.

[Manc.UK.DCCfan]

32 minutes ago, Dr. Manhattan said:

Hello. 
 

I come from the DC Universe, not Marvel. 
 

Thank You. 
 

Gooodbye.

In that case can you please send Superman my regards, phone number and send him my way? 😅🤤

 

 

also was not a fan of Rachel’s DCC in motion - yes technically it was good of what o did watch and beautiful leaps but it bored me so didn’t even watch all of it and scrolled on past. 
 

also on a social media point Holly P has bought herself a pot of the DCC Luccese boots and has a pic of them on her story, still makes me sad over her retirement but I get why it happened. 

[Holly85]

39 minutes ago, Dr. Manhattan said:

Hello. 
 

I come from the DC Universe, not Marvel. 
 

Thank You. 
 

Gooodbye.

When will we know how many new girls actually made it to training camp 

[dccfan204]

I kinda think Rachel W will have point the whole time. Anyone else?

[Tuxcat]

1 hour ago, dccfan204 said:

I kinda think Rachel W will have point the whole time. Anyone else?

I hope not but probably.

[chabelisaywow]

On 6/8/2021 at 7:46 AM, Mardo2044 said:

You can fault TK for a lot of things, but she is not the only mother who would not allow a 12 year old to live away from home.

I call 298 (2% truth / 98 % lie) on this one. I have never seen VK compete outside of NYCDA and they award partial scholarships to summer intensives.

What REALLY makes me not believe this is VK  is a sucky dancer. She may pass in the DCC world but even NYDCA has legit dancers and awards “titles.” Those dancers travel to the different regional competitions and teach the combinations. 
 

Check out Mahalaya Tintiangco-Cubales on YouTube. She has won every national category for every age division. That’s the level of dancer that wins.

Another thing about dancing - you may have your Misty Copeland stories here and there but most dancers are eliminated before they even dance because of body type. 

 

 

[LynneH]

16 hours ago, DCC-UK said:

I know she's beautiful but she does nothing with her face! Gina can be a bit OTT but I think it's easier to tone down her facials than it is to dial it up in Rachel. She's a beautiful dancer but oh so bland. 

Wow, I perceived her completely different.  I see in the video that she smiles, changes expressions etc throughout the program and I didn't see anything "vacant" in her eyes. 

When they have group performances my eyes tend to go right to her. But that's the great thing about group performances we all have different favorites. 

Anywhere she is in the triangle works for me. 😊

 

[chabelisaywow]

4 hours ago, dccfan204 said:

I kinda think Rachel W will have point the whole time. Anyone else?

I can’t help but seeing her in blackface anytime they post a picture or video. 
 

 

[ClassicPegg]

Tanned-face...

[dbell1]

7 hours ago, Dr. Manhattan said:

Hello. 
 

I come from the DC Universe, not Marvel. 
 

Thank You. 
 

Gooodbye.

Eek!! Wrong cannon. My inner geek has died of shame. 😂 No one would believe I grew up with comic books and wanting to be Wonder Woman. Sorry blue seer. 😬

[hannahbanana]

16 hours ago, chabelisaywow said:

I call 298 (2% truth / 98 % lie) on this one. I have never seen VK compete outside of NYCDA and they award partial scholarships to summer intensives.

What REALLY makes me not believe this is VK  is a sucky dancer. She may pass in the DCC world but even NYDCA has legit dancers and awards “titles.” Those dancers travel to the different regional competitions and teach the combinations. 

I have always side-eyed this story too. Yes, she could have been offered some kind of scholarship to something in NYC (and I don't blame any parent, including TK, for not sending their kid), but I always felt like they exaggerated it so that it appeared to be way more than it was.

[Manc.UK.DCCfan]

So on Facebook someone posted this pic of former DCC Kalyssa (she didn’t complete her rookie year) I genuinely find it sickening how thin she is, genuinely the only issue I have with it - not how raunchy, sexy it is, purely how Many ribs you can count on the poor girl 🦴

 

we - me included - give Gina stick sometimes on how thin she is, and how scary it is she’s so thin, lately Kalyssa was on another social site looking for a sugar daddy, genuinely wondering if she’s struggling to afford food (hence the sugar daddy hunt) or if she thinks being this thin is sexy. It’s so unhealthy. 
 

if anything it drives home more how much DCC should portray more healthy body images and allow a bit more wiggle room for weight gain in the girls. 

[Duffer]

3 hours ago, hannahbanana said:

I have always side-eyed this story too. Yes, she could have been offered some kind of scholarship to something in NYC (and I don't blame any parent, including TK, for not sending their kid), but I always felt like they exaggerated it so that it appeared to be way more than it was.

I worked at a private performing arts “school”. They constantly awarded financial scholarships for intensives or camps that were a fraction of the total cost. 

[Opine]

57 minutes ago, Manc.UK.DCCfan said:

So on Facebook someone posted this pic of former DCC Kalyssa (she didn’t complete her rookie year) I genuinely find it sickening how thin she is, genuinely the only issue I have with it - not how raunchy, sexy it is, purely how Many ribs you can count on the poor girl 🦴

 

we - me included - give Gina stick sometimes on how thin she is, and how scary it is she’s so thin, lately Kalyssa was on another social site looking for a sugar daddy, genuinely wondering if she’s struggling to afford food (hence the sugar daddy hunt) or if she thinks being this thin is sexy. It’s so unhealthy. 
 

if anything it drives home more how much DCC should portray more healthy body images and allow a bit more wiggle room for weight gain in the girls. 

If you look back at her body building days you will see this is not a new look for her.  Comparing this and those to DCC, she was a downright well-padded healthy looking DCC!

[Love2ride]

5 hours ago, Manc.UK.DCCfan said:

So on Facebook someone posted this pic of former DCC Kalyssa (she didn’t complete her rookie year) I genuinely find it sickening how thin she is, genuinely the only issue I have with it - not how raunchy, sexy it is, purely how Many ribs you can count on the poor girl 🦴

 

we - me included - give Gina stick sometimes on how thin she is, and how scary it is she’s so thin, lately Kalyssa was on another social site looking for a sugar daddy, genuinely wondering if she’s struggling to afford food (hence the sugar daddy hunt) or if she thinks being this thin is sexy. It’s so unhealthy. 
 

if anything it drives home more how much DCC should portray more healthy body images and allow a bit more wiggle room for weight gain in the girls. 

In addition to not being able to afford food, it looks like she can’t afford a bra and panties either! 🤣

[HitItHarder..BAM]

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Edited June 11, 2021 by HitItHarder..BAM
Wasn't relevant...sorry

[TB12]

On the DCC stories it shows the rookies getting their pinky rings. Remind me, did we hear who got VOTY and ROTY? I feel like we chatted about it but can't recall... :-)

[Holly85]

3 minutes ago, TB12 said:

On the DCC stories it shows the rookies getting their pinky rings. Remind me, did we hear who got VOTY and ROTY? I feel like we chatted about it but can't recall... :-)

Gina and McKenzie 

[klh25]

21 hours ago, Manc.UK.DCCfan said:

So on Facebook someone posted this pic of former DCC Kalyssa (she didn’t complete her rookie year) I genuinely find it sickening how thin she is, genuinely the only issue I have with it - not how raunchy, sexy it is, purely how Many ribs you can count on the poor girl 🦴

 

we - me included - give Gina stick sometimes on how thin she is, and how scary it is she’s so thin, lately Kalyssa was on another social site looking for a sugar daddy, genuinely wondering if she’s struggling to afford food (hence the sugar daddy hunt) or if she thinks being this thin is sexy. It’s so unhealthy. 
 

if anything it drives home more how much DCC should portray more healthy body images and allow a bit more wiggle room for weight gain in the girls. 

If I looked like this I wouldn't wear clothes either...IJS.  I wish I looked this good.

[DizzySometimes86]

On 6/5/2021 at 4:43 AM, Agent Gully said:

Just a question to see what others think...Last year, I think many of us were surprised at some of the veteran cuts. Of the veterans with two or more seasons under their belt now, in your opinion:

1.) Who would be the most surprising/shocking veteran cut/s?

2.) Who would be the least surprising veteran cut/s?

Feel free to list more than one for each question. Also feel free to put your reasoning.

1.) Who would be the most surprising/shocking veteran cut/s?

Rachel W (they love her, but I agree her inMotion dance did nothing for me and did not fit the song)

Caroline (they love her for her dancing) & Kat (they love her personality)

Amanda (she's the strongest from her year!)

Taylor (she's a blender to me, but she has close ties so cutting her would be surprising. I think they also like having a teacher on their roster)

Erin (I'd be surprised if they cut a reliable, gorgeous, drama-free dancer)

2.) Who would be the least surprising veteran cut/s?

Kristin (no reasoning needed)

Lisa (I never found her a compelling dancer and I agree that they will find her body suddenly boxy)

Chandi (blender, though they may keep for diversity's sake)

 

[sleepyjean]

On 6/9/2021 at 5:26 PM, chabelisaywow said:

I call 298 (2% truth / 98 % lie) on this one. I have never seen VK compete outside of NYCDA and they award partial scholarships to summer intensives.

 

On 6/10/2021 at 9:34 AM, hannahbanana said:

I have always side-eyed this story too. Yes, she could have been offered some kind of scholarship to something in NYC (and I don't blame any parent, including TK, for not sending their kid), but I always felt like they exaggerated it so that it appeared to be way more than it was.

 

On 6/10/2021 at 1:16 PM, Duffer said:

I worked at a private performing arts “school”. They constantly awarded financial scholarships for intensives or camps that were a fraction of the total cost. 

Victoria won a 1-year, $20,000 scholarship to AMDA's New York campus. I believe it was won through the Tremaine convention system.

[dccfan204]

5 hours ago, DizzySometimes86 said:

1.) Who would be the most surprising/shocking veteran cut/s?

2.) Who would be the least surprising veteran cut/s?

1. Gina, Lexie, Caroline, Rachel W, Amber, Ashlee, Daphne, Amanda

2. Lisa, Kristin, Alora-Rose, Jessica, Jada, Darian, Elli

[hannahbanana]

3 hours ago, sleepyjean said:

 

 

Victoria won a 1-year, $20,000 scholarship to AMDA's New York campus. I believe it was won through the Tremaine convention system.

But the AMDA is a college with month long high school (age 14-19) summer programs, so what was she actually offered? A one year scholarship for what? A program especially designed for her? They acted like she was accepted into a prestigious dance school program where it would be a permanent move and she would be finishing her schooling in NYC while also studying dance (a la School of American Ballet). First, there is the age discrepancy (someone said she was 12 at the time) & second is her technical issues. Maybe someone thought there was raw talent there and they could overcome her technical issues (in a summer intensive or something), but MTT/DCC always seems to exaggerate her accomplishments and abilities -- so along with the programs AMDA actually offers & their age requirements (I know, I know, VK is so great they agreed to take her at 12 😒), I remain skeptical about what she was actually offered vs. what was portrayed on the show.

Edited June 12, 2021 by hannahbanana
Typo

[scorpio1031]

15 minutes ago, hannahbanana said:

I remain skeptical about what she was actually offered vs. what was portrayed on the show

Don't forget she supposedly auditioned for SYTYCD too

[sleepyjean]

24 minutes ago, hannahbanana said:

But the AMDA is a college with month long high school (age 14-19) summer programs, so what was she actually offered? A one year scholarship for what? A program especially designed for her? They acted like she was accepted into a prestigious dance school program where it would be a permanent move and she would be finishing her schooling in NYC while also studying dance (a la School of American Ballet). First, there is the age discrepancy (someone said she was 12 at the time) & second is her technical issues. Maybe someone thought there was raw talent there and they could overcome her technical issues (in a summer intensive or something), but MTT/DCC always seems to exaggerate her accomplishments and abilities -- so along with the programs AMDA actually offers & their age requirements (I know, I know, VK is so great they agreed to take her at 12 😒), I remain skeptical about what she was actually offered vs. what was portrayed on the show.

I wouldn't say they "acted like" anything, in particular. What they said was she's had a lot of opportunities through dance, one of which was winning a $20k scholarship when she was in 8th grade, and Tina didn't want her baby girl to go. It was a very short segment (about a minute in). Unless there were other times it was mentioned (and there very well might be, I don't remember everything that happens on the show), that's pretty much all that was said.

I suppose you could fault her for not mentioning that the competition gives out plenty of scholarships, many in greater amounts than what she won, but if someone were to ask me about my achievements, I wouldn't list all the scholarships I won and then point out that other people got scholarships too, and better ones than I did. I wouldn't consider it bragging or showing off to limit my comments to my own experiences. Your mileage may vary.

It could've been for a summer intensive, but $20k seems like a lot for just the summer. Having said that, I'm not familiar with the competition world in general or AMDA in particular, so I'm just sharing the facts that I am aware of.

Edited June 12, 2021 by sleepyjean

[ByTor]

16 minutes ago, sleepyjean said:

It could've been for a summer intensive, but $20k seems like a lot for just the summer.

Yikes! These are 2020-2021 prices, and they are NOT inexpensive!!

[sleepyjean]

48 minutes ago, ByTor said:

Yikes! These are 2020-2021 prices, and they are NOT inexpensive!!

It looks like $20k is less than 1/2 of one year for a 2 year or 4 year program. Don't get me wrong, any scholarship amount helps, but that's still a lot to come up with out of pocket.

[EricaShadows]

1 hour ago, scorpio1031 said:

Don't forget she supposedly auditioned for SYTYCD too

Yes, but that was more recent and, unless I'm mistaken, she never made it out of the cattle call round.  Rumor had it that, when she didn't make it out of the cattle call round, she was telling people that she HAD moved on, but turned it down to audition for the DCC (or was saying something really similar).

[ByTor]

8 hours ago, sleepyjean said:

It looks like $20k is less than 1/2 of one year for a 2 year or 4 year program. Don't get me wrong, any scholarship amount helps, but that's still a lot to come up with out of pocket.

Remember, though, that Victoria would have been offered that scholarship around 10 years ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if the price doubled by now. I'm not a Victoria fan, I really don't care about her either way, but I'm guessing the story Tina told was the truth.

[Duffer]

1 hour ago, ByTor said:

Remember, though, that Victoria would have been offered that scholarship around 10 years ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if the price doubled by now. I'm not a Victoria fan, I really don't care about her either way, but I'm guessing the story Tina told was the truth.

It’s presenting some fact in a way that makes the story seem better than it is. I agree she didn’t say full-ride scholarship.  But it’s like the reasonably priced house in good shape on a real estate site. They don’t say it has no driveway, is next to a concert venue, backs up to oil refinery and the schools are an hour away. It’s not the whole story. A $20k scholarship towards a summer intensive in NY would have been more accurate and just as quick. 

[Jennv]

17 hours ago, hannahbanana said:

But the AMDA is a college with month long high school (age 14-19) summer programs, so what was she actually offered? A one year scholarship for what? A program especially designed for her? They acted like she was accepted into a prestigious dance school program where it would be a permanent move and she would be finishing her schooling in NYC while also studying dance (a la School of American Ballet). First, there is the age discrepancy (someone said she was 12 at the time) & second is her technical issues. Maybe someone thought there was raw talent there and they could overcome her technical issues (in a summer intensive or something), but MTT/DCC always seems to exaggerate her accomplishments and abilities -- so along with the programs AMDA actually offers & their age requirements (I know, I know, VK is so great they agreed to take her at 12 😒), I remain skeptical about what she was actually offered vs. what was portrayed on the show.

They probably exaggerated it for the show. For instance, when Grace sells was in training camp they showed her ice skating and stated she " got 5th place at nationals" that is technically true, but they left out it was 5th place in the novice division, pairs ice dancing. Its still an accomplishment, but I feel like cmt wanted to insinuate she almost got a spot on the olympic team, or something.

[chabelisaywow]

20 hours ago, hannahbanana said:

But the AMDA is a college with month long high school (age 14-19) summer programs, so what was she actually offered? A one year scholarship for what? A program especially designed for her? They acted like she was accepted into a prestigious dance school program where it would be a permanent move and she would be finishing her schooling in NYC while also studying dance (a la School of American Ballet). First, there is the age discrepancy (someone said she was 12 at the time) & second is her technical issues. Maybe someone thought there was raw talent there and they could overcome her technical issues (in a summer intensive or something), but MTT/DCC always seems to exaggerate her accomplishments and abilities -- so along with the programs AMDA actually offers & their age requirements (I know, I know, VK is so great they agreed to take her at 12 😒), I remain skeptical about what she was actually offered vs. what was portrayed on the show.

Thank you - exactly.

I mentioned a dancer that danced with my daughter and while she has won titles and scholarships to summer intensives, she’s never won a school scholarship (she’s 16 or so now). 

Same dancer has won first place in her division consistently at YAGP which I feel is the more “legit.” 

I know of two dancers that have won 4 year college scholarships through NYCDA. Their level of dancing is just mind blowing - two very different styles too. VK isn’t up to their level now - what more at 12? 

[chabelisaywow]

9 hours ago, Duffer said:

It’s presenting some fact in a way that makes the story seem better than it is. I agree she didn’t say full-ride scholarship.  But it’s like the reasonably priced house in good shape on a real estate site. They don’t say it has no driveway, is next to a concert venue, backs up to oil refinery and the schools are an hour away. It’s not the whole story. A $20k scholarship towards a summer intensive in NY would have been more accurate and just as quick. 

Why this is unbelievable to me is regardless of how many awards are given - you still have to have skill.

Technique is not VK’s forte, hell natural dance ability isn’t either (I admit that may be personal opinion).

I compare her to the many dancers I’ve  seen win and I just don’t believe it. 

 

[sleepyjean]

I'm not going to speculate about whether she deserved it or not. I'm not educated enough on the topic to have an informed opinion. However, I believe this was the award. This was posted on the facebook page of one of the other girls. If my math is correct, Victoria would have been 16 at the time.

 

[chabelisaywow]

2 hours ago, sleepyjean said:

I'm not going to speculate about whether she deserved it or not. I'm not educated enough on the topic to have an informed opinion. However, I believe this was the award. This was posted on the facebook page of one of the other girls. If my math is correct, Victoria would have been 16 at the time.

 

I have never heard of Tremaine. My daughter’s studio participates in YAGP, NYCDA, and maybe Showstopper every once in awhile. 
 

I asked my daughter if she’s every heard of them and she said yes. She’s not sure if they have conventions in CA but they had one in the Midwest where she went to undergrad. 
 

I don’t know how many people watched Dance Moms - but for the show at least, the competitions where they competed were made up. Most of the larger ones didn’t allow taping. My daughter mentioned that Tremaine is more of a “jazz” type convention which makes sense. 

I also google’d what a Tremaine year long scholarship was and from their website it looks like free entrance to their conventions for a year. 
 

Dance competitions are half competition/half convention. Teams/solos compete - but they also learn combinations from different choreographers. They usually have the winners help teach the combinations. 
 

It’s not cheap to attend or compete.  I don’t want to say what she won was worthless - but I don’t think the scholarship covers transportation/housing to these competitions when they are in different states (like a tour). 
 

Being a NYCDA national title holder - part of the responsibility is to teach, but they don’t pay for transportation. The winners are banking on the exposure. 

[UnicornKicksBack]

I always just thought this $20k scholarship was legit but value prob inflated, like when people brag on getting a $100k scholarship to some little cow town private school that literally awards every applicant what sounds like a high value scholarship. Sounds like big $$ but not really does anyone ever actually pay that.

also at 12 VK May have been far more advanced than now. Potential is not actuality or reality 10 years down the line. 

[UnicornKicksBack]

So overall I don’t think they lied about a $20k scholarship especially if that included housing and no way in hell would I let a 12year Old go live in NYC alone

[go4luca]

17 hours ago, chabelisaywow said:

I have never heard of Tremaine. My daughter’s studio participates in YAGP, NYCDA, and maybe Showstopper every once in awhile. 

I asked my daughter if she’s every heard of them and she said yes. She’s not sure if they have conventions in CA but they had one in the Midwest where she went to undergrad. 

My daughter mentioned that Tremaine is more of a “jazz” type convention which makes sense. 

Joe Tremaine Dance Center was in N. Hollywood for nearly 30 years.  Joe's style was jazz but the studio offered various dance styles.  Doug Caldwell, known for his lyrical style, was a huge favorite in the dance world and also taught at Tremaine conventions until his untimely passing.  Tremaine Dance Center was packed back in the day.  I was on scholarship, used to assist one of the teachers at conventions and later also taught for Tremaine.  Eventually Joe closed the studio to solely focus on his dance conventions.  They do have conventions in California as well as other states.

[dccfan204]

Amber has announced this is most likely her final season

[Holly85]

3 minutes ago, dccfan204 said:

Amber has announced this is most likely her final season

Taylor j made the same comment few weeks ago 

[Holly85]

[Katmcc]

I’ve always felt like Amber was one to ask not to be featured much on the show. Doesn’t she have plans to be a lawyer? I could see her laying low but dancing because she enjoys it. 

[Tuxcat]

2 hours ago, dccfan204 said:

Amber has announced this is most likely her final season

 

2 hours ago, Holly85 said:

Taylor j made the same comment few weeks ago 

They are just referring to senior year as in 4th year. Amber said in the comments she might still do a "victory lap."

[Kamal]

Is there anyone who agrees with all three of my opinions?

1. I like both Marissa's dancing and her personality.
2. I think Alora-Rose is a great dancer even in DCC style
3. But I don't like Alora-Rose's personality. (I dunno but I don't like her instagram posts)

I felt like there are a lot of Marissa and Alora-Rose haters on this forum but I wanted to know if there is anyone who only dislikes Alora-Rose's personality.

 

Edited June 20, 2021 by Kamal
Edited to delete "please repost this" part

[go4luca]

1 hour ago, Kamal said:

Can someone repost this post if you agree with all three of my opinions?

Just like on FB, I never do the repost copy/paste thing.  But I can't stand Marissa (especially her fan's "marauders" moniker which I find beyond ridiculous).  Alora-Rose does nothing for me.

[parrotfeathers]

I don't feel as though I know any of the girls that got on the team last year.

[MeeMee2]

8 hours ago, Kamal said:

I felt like there are a lot of Marissa and Alora-Rose haters on this forum but I wanted to know if there is anyone who only dislikes Alora-Rose's personality.

I actually don't have an issue with Marrisa at all. I know her look isn't  everyone's cup of tea, but the girl can dance. Every single prep class clip I see with her in it, she's kicking everyone's butt. My eye can't help but go to her in a group. Her show off style is perfect for the DCC. I feel like she earned her spot. 

Now Alora-Rose...I mean, if you are going to cut proven veterans to keep  rookies, then all the rookies you keep over them, BETTER be amazing.  I know she was a Rockette and I actually find her very pretty to look at, but she isn't amazing. Even in the most recent prep class vids we've seen of her, she's getting out danced by non DCC dancers.  There was so much unnecessary drama with the vets, because of Kelli in the bubble last year,  Alora-Rose got lucky. I know opinions on Hannah and Brennan are a bit split, but I would of at least kept Lilly over her.  If the show is renewed and she gets the "struggle bus" edit, I won't be surprised. Especially with all the crazy technical dance TCs coming coming in this year

 

Edited June 19, 2021 by MeeMee2
English is my 2nd language.

[scorpio1031]

10 hours ago, Kamal said:

Can someone repost this post if you agree with all three of my opinions?

Can't we just use the "like" button if we agree?  Doesn't clog up the thread that way.