S15.E01: An Unexpected Secret

[bichonblitz]

Sure, Kelly. Keep convincing us.  Sex three times a day. With a 60 yr. old man. Let's see how hot it is when you don't live across the country from each other any longer and have to look at each other every day.  

Edited October 15, 2020 by bichonblitz

[Chit Chat]

41 minutes ago, lizajane said:

Muchas gracias - I AM dense!

You're not dense!  I was thinking it was some inside joke from last season with the ladies, and I just couldn't remember that far back.  Glad to know I wasn't the only one sitting here thinking WTH?  

3 hours ago, Duke2801 said:

Still hate Shane. Emily’s attempts to convince us that he’s now a good, loving partner fell flat. 

They're both awkward together.  Emily should know Shane well enough to know that he's not into the PDA.  If he won't even hold her hand in public, well, she should know that he sure ain't going to kiss her!!  She might as well give up on that.  😉 

4 hours ago, BrownBear2012 said:

Kelly is so obnoxious. Did we really need to hear about her 60 something boyfriend/fiance being well hung and how great he is in the sack??

With their age difference, she probably thinks he's soooo old (I don't, as I'm not far behind him).  I think she feels the need to point out his virility.  I'm sure he's quite flattered by it, but for the rest of us, we're not interested or impressed! 

[bichonblitz]

21 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

She looks like hell.  When your eyes are disappearing from filler, you’re doing something wrong.  

I thought Emily lost 25 lbs. She was putting it out there all over social media a few months ago. I'm not seeing it. 

[albarino]

I liked the intro to the show.  I can't quote it exactly but something along the lines of people think the OC weather is always the same but we've had many changes along with showing a montage of former housewives.  I thought, yep, Vicki and Tamra WON'T be back.  Good riddance.

I may eat my words but I like the new HW.  I think I would love her on the RHOBH.  But seriously, how do these women marry billionaires?  I'm too old (and happily married).  Is it the Patti  (Millionaire Matchmaker) "the penis does the picking" thing?

As many of you have said, my antennae is up with Brown wind declaring herself an alcoholic.  She has seven healthy children; alcoholics have children with fetal alcohol syndrome.  She may be a problem drinker but I don't think she is an alcoholic.  I'm not a medical professional so this is my 2 cents.

We all know disaster is somehow looming but it was nice to see the women happy.

 

[howiveaddict]

11 hours ago, snarts said:

Might just me and my cold black heart, but Braunwyn's admission seemed a bit too calculated and rang false. Like let me bust out my season long storyline in episode 1 to secure my orange. That's partly due to her media blitz yesterday. There's something so creepy & disingenuous about her and her entire family.

 

I felt like it was her trying to push a story line.  Something about her I do not like. Oh, and I think she looks like Lori Vallow Daybell.

[Shannah Banana]

11 hours ago, snarts said:

There's something so creepy & disingenuous about her and her entire family.

Agree.  Braunwyn and spouse, gave me the ick factor last season and it hasn't changed.  I have a feeling she is one of those women that I will never wind up liking.  I had the same almost visceral reaction to Carlton whatsherface and her husband on HWoBH.  Yuck, yuck, and more yuck.  Her mother is a freaking weirdo, I don't care how many degrees she has. 

 

2 hours ago, Mr. Miner said:

Hard for me to dislike a dog lover from the Ozarks.

Me too!  I did feel she was being a little extra, but hopefully she will settle in. 

 

8 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

I actually like Emily and I kind of like Shane.  He reminds me of myself, he is not mushy and gooey, and just says what he thinks.  Can be a jerk sometimes, but overall is mostly joking.  

I like Shane too.  Dang, with all these fake bitches, he is a breath of fresh air with his bluntness.  Somehow he kind of grew on me last season.

[EtheltoTillie]

2 hours ago, albarino said:

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As many of you have said, my antennae is up with Brown wind declaring herself an alcoholic.  She has seven healthy children; alcoholics have children with fetal alcohol syndrome.  She may be a problem drinker but I don't think she is an alcoholic.  I'm not a medical professional so this is my 2 cents.

We all know disaster is somehow looming but it was nice to see the women happy.

 

She said she never drank during her many pregnancies so that helped her mask her problem. 

[tvfanatic13]

I think Braunwyn is full of shit. If I am wrong then good for her for admitting the problem, but we did not even see an inking of that last season. 

[emmawoodhouse]

42 minutes ago, tvfanatic13 said:

I think Braunwyn is full of shit. If I am wrong then good for her for admitting the problem, but we did not even see an inking of that last season. 

There must have been a lot that was left on the cutting room floor. Emily noted that she saw Brawnwyn drunk on several occasions and confronted her about it. Then Brawny, in denial, took it out on Emily to avoid facing the truth.

[BrownBear2012]

3 hours ago, ChitChat said:

You're not dense!  I was thinking it was some inside joke from last season with the ladies, and I just couldn't remember that far back.  Glad to know I wasn't the only one sitting here thinking WTH?  

They're both awkward together.  Emily should know Shane well enough to know that he's not into the PDA.  If he won't even hold her hand in public, well, she should know that he sure ain't going to kiss her!!  She might as well give up on that.  😉 

With their age difference, she probably thinks he's soooo old (I don't, as I'm not far behind him).  I think she feels the need to point out his virility.  I'm sure he's quite flattered by it, but for the rest of us, we're not interested or impressed! 

His virility...probably the result of Viagra.

[Keywestclubkid]

Are we really debating if someone is an alcoholic when they tell you that they are? (i totally get it if she was saying NO I'm NOT an alcoholic after saying she hides booze around the house hides her drinking and drinks to stop shaking we would be saying Yes lady you are) That’s not something someone would just think hey let me go on a national television show and say... no one wants to suffer or be seen as suffering from alcoholism. It’s not a good thing ......and no one wants to have the stigma of that attached to their name .... it’s not something cool to be.... given her past especially with her nutso mother I can honestly see her using alcohol has a buffer and that manifested itself into alcoholism... Again I trust the woman when she says I am an alcoholic that's not something you just throw out like its no big deal  ( there are thousands of functioning alcoholics out there that you would never know they had an issue unless you lived with them) over and edited version of her life that didn't show her hiding the booze or showing us just how fucked up she really got all the time that producers chose not to show (and this year alone we have seen how producers on these housewife shows manipulated situations) ... just putting in my 2cents 

Edited October 16, 2020 by Keywestclubkid

[Kiki777]

8 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

There must have been a lot that was left on the cutting room floor. Emily noted that she saw Brawnwyn drunk on several occasions and confronted her about it. Then Brawny, in denial, took it out on Emily to avoid facing the truth.

I believe Brawny is telling the truth - those clips from last season (where Emily calls her out on her over-drinking) were from events that I remember.  While I find some aspects of Brawnwyn annoying - ugh that family, that MOTHER - I do find her story sad, but real and inspiring.  Kudos to her for putting it out there and being a help to viewers who see themselves in her.

[Sweet-tea]

9 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

There must have been a lot that was left on the cutting room floor. Emily noted that she saw Brawnwyn drunk on several occasions and confronted her about it. Then Brawny, in denial, took it out on Emily to avoid facing the truth.

Ditto what Kiki and Keywest said. We did see some scenes of her really drunk, flashing her boobs, slurring, etc. There was also footage left out such as the plane scene. Stopping drinking for pregnancies or any periods of times doesn’t mean someone isn’t an alcoholic. It’s what happens when you do drink, how you react to alcohol. 

It takes a lot to admit you’re an alcoholic. If she is saying that, I believe her. 

Edited October 16, 2020 by Sweet-tea

[NYCFree]

I was horrified at the preview scene with Dr. Deb telling her Brownwyn that she was “more fun” when she was drinking. This is a fear many alcoholics have, that they aren’t as fun to be around without being drunk. I loathed her before, I have evil thoughts about her now.

I get the feeling that Rick’s 60th Birthday Party in Miami was the start of filming for this season. It’s weird there are so many scenes from that party, but they really didn’t show it as an integral part of the show.

[Keywestclubkid]

4 minutes ago, NYCFree said:

I was horrified at the preview scene with Dr. Deb telling her Brownwyn that she was “more fun” when she was drinking. This is a fear many alcoholics have, that they aren’t as fun to be around without being drunk. I loathed her before, I have evil thoughts about her now.

I get the feeling that Rick’s 60th Birthday Party in Miami was the start of filming for this season. It’s weird there are so many scenes from that party, but they really didn’t show it as an integral part of the show.

Her mother is a disgusting selfish monster

[Boo Boo]

Just watching now.  My GOD Kelly's talking head is horrible.  The weird hair.

I think Rick is hot.  He looks damn good for 60.

[Shauna]

On 10/15/2020 at 7:13 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

Well, we have seen a lot of bad decisions regarding her hair and now her relationship going from 0 to 60 and moving in to a tiny town home with this guy, shoving 6 kids in to 2 bedrooms ala Brady Bunch.  I feel like she is auditioning for her own life and she is missing the mark...between her money and his shouldn't they have been able to live a little larger, isn't she getting support from her ex?  Seriously, why not get all her ducks in a row before she drags her kids in to any situation living with anyone else let alone other kids.  

Travis should have waited in the lobby while Gina had her appointment with her lawyer.

 

Gina strikes me as someone who can't be alone.  That is, she has to have a man in her life at all times. 

I thought it was wrong for any of the other women to say how small her home was.  Some people can't afford what others have.  Some people can't see past their own nose.

I like Gina better without the extensions and was surprised at the weight gain. 

[albarino]

2 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Stopping drinking for pregnancies or any periods of times doesn’t mean someone isn’t an alcoholic. It’s what happens when you do drink, how you react to alcohol. 

My opinion only, if you can stop drinking for a year at a time, you aren't an alcoholic.  Alcoholics can't stop drinking and have babies with FAS.  Acting out once you're drunk (ala Luanne) is a problem.  Once again, my opinion only.

 

[heatherchandler]

3 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Are we really debating if someone is an alcoholic when they tell you that they are? (i totally get it if she was saying NO I'm NOT an alcoholic after saying she hides booze around the house hides her drinking and drinks to stop shaking we would be saying Yes lady you are) That’s not something someone would just think hey let me go on a national television show and say... no one wants to suffer or be seen as suffering from alcoholism. It’s not a good thing ......and no one wants to have the stigma of that attached to their name .... it’s not something cool to be.... given her past especially with her nutso mother I can honestly see her using alcohol has a buffer and that manifested itself into alcoholism... I trust the woman who lives her life everyday to know if she does or doesn’t have an issue with alcohol over and edited version of her life that didnt show her hiding the booze or showing up just how fucked up she really got all the time that producers chose not to show (and this year alone we have seen how producers on these housewife shows manipulated situations) ... just putting in my 2cents 

 

I don't think anyone is debating if she is an alcoholic, or doubts that she's an alcoholic, I am just getting a weird vibe from the performance of her "secret."  I feel for anyone struggling with addiction/alcoholism it is a disease that effects the whole family, and sometimes rips it apart.  I got a weird feeling from her making it a storyline, on a show about drunk rich women.  All the women drinking and fighting is like 99% of the show.  The show glamorizes drinking. 

I also think it must be serious if Shawn told her that he would leave her if she had another drink.  And for her to say she doesn't think she could stop forever, that is a very real feeling alcoholics have - she needs help, not a reality tv show.

 

13 minutes ago, NYCFree said:

I was horrified at the preview scene with Dr. Deb telling her Brownwyn that she was “more fun” when she was drinking. This is a fear many alcoholics have, that they aren’t as fun to be around without being drunk. I loathed her before, I have evil thoughts about her now.

 

I am also horrified by this.  What a f-ing disgusting person Dr. Deb is.  I hate her so much.

[Keywestclubkid]

8 minutes ago, albarino said:

My opinion only, if you can stop drinking for a year at a time, you aren't an alcoholic.  Alcoholics can't stop drinking and have babies with FAS.  Acting out once you're drunk (ala Luanne) is a problem.  Once again, my opinion only.

 

She was hiding booze around the house to get drunk, she was drinking in secret, she was drinking to stop the withdraws .. she would drink to the point of blacking out... that's a problem .... If she was telling herself I cant drink because I am pregnant but had No control over it now that she isnt ... she was or was becoming an alcoholic ... Normal people don't hide drinking they don't hide booze around the house to drink ....

[Shauna]

I missed it and everyone is commenting on it.  How fast did Gina allow her boyfriend to move in?

[biakbiak]

14 minutes ago, albarino said:

My opinion only, if you can stop drinking for a year at a time, you aren't an alcoholic.  Alcoholics can't stop drinking and have babies with FAS.  Acting out once you're drunk (ala Luanne) is a problem.  Once again, my opinion only.

 

Alcoholics run the gamut and what that means and what their recovery means is different for everyone. 

[Keywestclubkid]

11 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

 

I don't think anyone is debating if she is an alcoholic, or doubts that she's an alcoholic, I am just getting a weird vibe from the performance of her "secret."  I feel for anyone struggling with addiction/alcoholism it is a disease that effects the whole family, and sometimes rips it apart.  I got a weird feeling from her making it a storyline, on a show about drunk rich women.  All the women drinking and fighting is like 99% of the show.  The show glamorizes drinking. 

I also think it must be serious if Shawn told her that he would leave her if she had another drink.  And for her to say she doesn't think she could stop forever, that is a very real feeling alcoholics have - she needs help, not a reality tv show.

 

I am also horrified by this.  What a f-ing disgusting person Dr. Deb is.  I hate her so much.

This show was never really about drunk rich woman it just showed a lot of women get drunk and do obnoxious things and 90% of the fans were getting tired of 50, 60 year old woman acting like they had no sense ... I think its smart that they are showing that drinking like that can be a problem .... it shows another side to it ... everything isnt great with shots and 15 drinks ... some people cant handle that

[Baltimore Betty]

26 minutes ago, Shauna said:

I thought it was wrong for any of the other women to say how small her home was.  Some people can't afford what others have.  Some people can't see past their own nose.

I think they were saying that six kids makes a house seem small, two rooms full of bunk beds can make for cramped quarters, kids toys etc...can fill up a house quickly. I am sure if she was there alone with just her kids nobody would think anything but the fact the house now resembles a clown car...people will talk. 

 

[NYCFree]

25 minutes ago, albarino said:

My opinion only, if you can stop drinking for a year at a time, you aren't an alcoholic.  Alcoholics can't stop drinking and have babies with FAS.  Acting out once you're drunk (ala Luanne) is a problem.  Once again, my opinion only.

 

I’m not an expert at all, but my understanding of alcoholism is that is an inability to control one’s drinking. Brownyn can’t control her drinking when she drinks alcohol. Once she starts, she can’t stop. She can also go without alcohol, even for long stretches, because she knows she can drink in the future.

[Baltimore Betty]

4 minutes ago, Boo Boo said:

Gina looks like shit, but it is nice to see women that aren't stick figures on this show.  

I also think Braunie's alcoholism story is pure fiction.  Last month, her daughter types "Fuck You Mom" on her instagram account, now she's an alcoholic.  I think her family with their 8000 sq. foot house needs the income from this show.

Also, her taste is so tacky.  That home is 8000 sq. feet of ugly.

 

I look at Kyle's stupid neon in her house and now Brawny's neon, is that coming back? Is neon a thing now?  I'll have to call my neon guy.  

How many times do we see a HW's first season and by the next season they are in much swankier digs.

Gina cannot handle the extra weight, it is from the waist up and she does not carry it well, Emily carries her extra weight in an hour glass way and is much more flattering.

[Boo Boo]

5 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

How does something posted two weeks ago impact something filmed months ago?

I feel like they're drumming up dysfunction prior to the season start to drum up interest in their family.  As such, I believe they'd come up with this alcoholism issue to make sure she continues with her orange.  

And if she's suffering from alcoholism, somehow she'd rather film then go to rehab?  She'd rather be in disruptive situations where drinking and drama is encouraged?  

 

Edited October 16, 2020 by Boo Boo

[Baltimore Betty]

12 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

Alcoholics run the gamut and what that means and what their recovery means is different for everyone. 

I have a friend who is in his 26th year of sobriety, he is as active in AA today as he was 26 years ago, happy and healthy.  

Brawny will have to commit to some sort of program if she really wants help...I am betting there will be an oops baby.

[Boo Boo]

2 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I have a friend who is in his 26th year of sobriety, he is as active in AA today as he was 26 years ago, happy and healthy.  

Brawny will have to commit to some sort of program if she really wants help...I am betting there will be an oops baby.

Right -- she'd rather be a reality star and film versus getting real help.  

Drinking so much, she'd rather die.  But she'd rather film versus rehab.

 

[biakbiak]

40 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Brawny will have to commit to some sort of program if she really wants help...I am betting there will be an oops baby.

Unlikely given all of their younger children were IVF and she talked about how they used all of their embryos.

Edited October 16, 2020 by biakbiak

[Boo Boo]

I get a gay vibe off Elizabeth.  No that there's anything wrong with it!  I just do.

[Keywestclubkid]

1 minute ago, Boo Boo said:

I get a gay vibe off Elizabeth.  No that there's anything wrong with it!  I just do.

its her country background its the way she walks and handles herself (body language) A lot of my female friends (i grew up in the country in Tennessee) who were raised on farms and such do this ... 

[Jel]

Big tell on her drinking problem was when Braunwyn said she'd get the shakes when she woke up (abstained from alcohol for a time) and would have to have a drink to stop them.  

I really enjoyed the show without Tamra Judge toxifying my tv. I'm excited to watch it this year.

[ladle]

You know we're really in a TV drought when I'm actively excited for this shitshow to come back.

Was that Jeana Keough as narrator?  Nice job trying to provide continuity, Bravo, but I'm not at all invested in this boring cast (except maaaybe Shannon).  

Oh, Jolie.  She always seems like a sweet kid.  I just want the best for her.  

Gina seems like someone whose life is a string of bad decisions, with her hairstyles being merely the tip of the iceberg.  

It's not that I actively like Brawny or anything, but I'm confused as to why Shannon and Gina seem to actively dislike her.

I kind of loved that Jim Bellino looked like an inmate in the brief photo they showed of him. 

Who does the new housewife remind me of?  The youngest Brady daughter grown up?  Wait, I don't care.

Edited October 16, 2020 by ladle

[Boo Boo]

Wonder how fast Rick and Kelly's passion will die out when they live together?  They strike me as two people that lust after each other and once they live in the same house, their passion will burn out and they'll divorce.  

Or maybe he just loves that she's so unpredictable?

[PrincessPurrsALot]

1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

 

I don't think anyone is debating if she is an alcoholic, or doubts that she's an alcoholic, I am just getting a weird vibe from the performance of her "secret."  I feel for anyone struggling with addiction/alcoholism it is a disease that effects the whole family, and sometimes rips it apart.  I got a weird feeling from her making it a storyline, on a show about drunk rich women.  All the women drinking and fighting is like 99% of the show.  The show glamorizes drinking. 

I also think it must be serious if Shawn told her that he would leave her if she had another drink.  And for her to say she doesn't think she could stop forever, that is a very real feeling alcoholics have - she needs help, not a reality tv show.

I believe she is an alcoholic based on what she described and what we have been shown.  I also believe that she thought about how she would present this on the show and so her recounting of her behavior, etc., sounded rehearsed.  It likely was.  It came about ina  staged, reality TV conversation, not one where they hung out for a long time, got comfortable and then it came up.  Maybe Bravo is realizing that drunken fools are not what made the franchise but has become the core to these franchises?

[Boo Boo]

8 minutes ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:

I believe she is an alcoholic based on what she described and what we have been shown.  I also believe that she thought about how she would present this on the show and so her recounting of her behavior, etc., sounded rehearsed.  It likely was.  It came about ina  staged, reality TV conversation, not one where they hung out for a long time, got comfortable and then it came up.  Maybe Bravo is realizing that drunken fools are not what made the franchise but has become the core to these franchises?

I feel like she is one of those people that gets drunk at parties, dances, flirts, does the wife swapping stuff depending on who is willing and then for the show, decided she needed a storyline, so viola!  I'm an alcoholic!  I'm not going to rehab or anything, but I'll talk about having the shakes b/c that will make it sound real!  B/c I had a 4 day binge!  

Maybe this is realistic, maybe it isn't.  What I know for sure is she's soooooo afraid of her alcoholism, that she'd rather be filmed on a show that promotes drunk drama than actually take care of the problem.  I'm also quite sure, we'll have the obligatory questionable therapist she'll be filmed with  about her problem and then magically next season it will be all under control again then the next it won't.

She needs to show for attention.  They probably need the show for a paycheck.  

Edited October 16, 2020 by Boo Boo

[heatherchandler]

2 hours ago, Boo Boo said:

does the wife swapping stuff depending on who is willing

Ahhh I forgot about that stuff!  🤮

I bet she is/was doing more then drinking, as she seemed amped up a lot of the time last season.  I know the housewives pop adderall like tic tacs so they can drink a lot without getting tired, so they can film, and then wake up and film again.  The housewives shows used to be great until they turned into binge-drinking, repetitive fighting nonsense.  They did not always glamorize the drinking like they do now.  They drank, for sure, but not like they do now.

Braunwyn reminds me of that runner, Suzy Favor Hamilton.  She suffers from bipolar disorder, and she was actually a prostitute in Las Vegas for a while... she had been taking medication for depression, which made her mania worse and also made her hypersexual.  She was really struggling until diagnosed properly, and properly medicated.  Not that I have a clue what mental disorders Braunwyn has, but I am so reminded of Hamilton while watching Braunwyn.

 

Edited October 16, 2020 by heatherchandler

[heatherchandler]

2 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I think its smart that they are showing that drinking like that can be a problem

I just don't think this is the show for that.  The other women are all drinking in excess, and popping whatever pills.  Remember why Vicki had that adverse reaction in Iceland, she had been given adderall from Kelly, and then a Xanax to calm down - all so they could go out and drink late into the night, and she was tired.  This is a show that focuses on drinking .  Even RHNY bringing up Luanne being an alcoholic didn't send a great message, as she is back to drinking!  

Also, these women (and the women on the other franchises) put out a "persona" on the show that is not real.  The GUCCI clothes (remember Vicki was wearing cotton tank tops and shorts the first season), the hair and makeup - they are not really being real, it is all an act.  

I am 100% sure her alcoholism will not be handled properly.  She needs real help.

Edited October 16, 2020 by heatherchandler

[Boo Boo]

20 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

I just don't think this is the show for that.  The other women are all drinking in excess, and popping whatever pills.  Remember why Vicki had that adverse reaction in Iceland, she had been given adderall from Kelly, and then a Xanax to calm down - all so they could go out and drink late into the night, and she was tired.  This is a show that focuses on drinking .  Even RHNY bringing up Luanne being an alcoholic didn't send a great message, as she is back to drinking!  

Also, these women (and the women on the other franchises) put out a "persona" on the show that is not real.  The GUCCI clothes (remember Vicki was wearing cotton tank tops and shorts the first season), the hair and makeup - they are not really being real, it is all an act.  

I am 100% sure her alcoholism will not be handled properly.  She needs real help.

Right.  This show does the "bring awareness" stuff, but in the end, is she really going to quit drinking?  

Hell, look no further than Leah.  She was sober for a long time until the show.  

In my mind, if you are self-aware enough to understand you HAVE a problem, then do your family a favor and take a break from the show, get real help and then when you are strong enough, come back and talk about your deliverance from this issue.

 

[Keywestclubkid]

24 minutes ago, Boo Boo said:

Right.  This show does the "bring awareness" stuff, but in the end, is she really going to quit drinking?  

Hell, look no further than Leah.  She was sober for a long time until the show.  

In my mind, if you are self-aware enough to understand you HAVE a problem, then do your family a favor and take a break from the show, get real help and then when you are strong enough, come back and talk about your deliverance from this issue.

 

But you dont have to drink to be on this show that isn't a prerequisite...... saying oh if you dont have a good time like the rest then you dont need to be on here is not fair to the millions of people who dont drink ..she isn't even forcing any of the other woman not to drink she wasnt even making a big deal about it to the woman when they were drinking around her she just said Im having water and left it at that ... ya know what im saying ... showing a different side of a person .. someone dealing with not drinking can be informative and a change this show desperately needs ... I am tried of grown ass woman acting like idiots who dont know that being over the age of 21 and fall down drunk ant cute and shouldn't be applauded ... The only good thing about all of this is Leah saw herself drunk on the show and reevaluated her stance on drinking.,. I guess she thought that she had to drink to be around the girls cause they all did and she thought she would be fine when she wasnt ... again I just wanna say you dont have to be drunk to be entertaining...

Edited October 16, 2020 by Keywestclubkid

[nytonc]

These women, with the exception of Braunwyn who is just boring beyond words, wear way way way too much make up. They look like cadavers. 

New girl is a little too happy-giggly for me.  I’m sure her house is worth mega-bucks but who wants to sit on the deck and have all those people going by? That’s not my idea of a beach house. 
 

I could definitely do without Kelly over-sharing about her sex life. 

Emily looks more bloated than ever. 

Gina looks rough! She sure didn’t waste any time snaring and moving in with the new guy. (Is she sure he’s straight??) Her kids are so young, she should have concentrated on them for a while before bringing a new guy and his kids into it. Bad move! 

Shannon seems happy and the two families seem to get along well.  It’s nice to see her happy. I can’t stand neurotic, crazy Shannon. 

I’m not missing the other two amigas at all. It was about time they got the axe. 
 

 

[ladle]

Kelly saying the words "in the bedroom" is the stuff of my waking nightmares.

[UsernameFatigue]

1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

Ahhh I forgot about that stuff!  🤮

I bet she is/was doing more then drinking, as she seemed amped up a lot of the time last season.  I know the housewives pop adderall like tic tacs so they can drink a lot without getting tired, so they can filem, and then wake up and film again.  The housewives shows used to be great until they turned into binge-drinking, repetitive fighting nonsense.  They did not always glamorize the drinking like they do now.  They drank, for sure, but not like they do now.

Braunwyn reminds me of that runner, Suzy Favor Hamilton.  She suffers from bipolar disorder, and she was actually a prostitute in Las Vegas for a while... she had been taking medication for depression, which made her mania worse and also made her hypersexual.  She was really struggling until diagnosed properly, and properly medicated.  Not that I have a clue what mental disorders Braunwyn has, but I am so reminded of Hamilton while watching Braunwyn.

 

Hmmm, you could very well be right about bipolar. Brauny is a lot like Leah on RHNY. Out of control when drinking, but even when not drinking has a need to always be the centre of attention, and to be doing or saying something that she thinks will shock others. Also agree that she could be on something other than booze. 

[itsadryheat]

6 hours ago, nytonc said:

New girl

So her story is: she married a rich guy who wanted her to be arm candy, she wanted a kid, he did not want a kid, he then had a kid with an affair, hence divorce? Big money from combo of player wealthy husband and her business?

Edited October 17, 2020 by itsadryheat

[watcherwoman]

I don't like Brownwind or her husband.  They both try way too hard to be interesting.  She said she has drank every day since she was 14. I doubt that, between 7 pregnancies and breastfeeding each one to nearly 2 years old, I'm not buying it.  But who cares, if she wants to be the alcoholic this season...go for it. BTW, drinking 4 straight days on vacation sounds normal to me.  Unless she was puking on the waitstaff, no big deal.   

I hate saying this because I don't judge people on their looks, but this group has really went down hill.  Shannon is still pretty and I think Kelly is attractive, but the rest, not so much.  If I liked these ladies and admired them, their looks wouldn't matter, but I think they are all nasty.  However, the new girl seems okay this early in the game.

I don't miss Tamra at all!  Vicki was always good in a Ramona sort of way.  They are both so ridiculous, they made for good tv.  At least for me.

 

 

 

[PrincessPurrsALot]

I did enjoy the editor's choice to show the clip of Shannon yelling [paraphrased], " Go suck cock for money! That's what you're good at!" after yet another clip of Kelly going on and on about all the sex she's having and how it's the bestest ever. 

[dosodog]

4 hours ago, Jel said:

Big tell on her drinking problem was when Braunwyn said she'd get the shakes when she woke up (abstained from alcohol for a time) and would have to have a drink to stop them.  

I really enjoyed the show without Tamra Judge toxifying my tv. I'm excited to watch it this year.

I'm excited to watch Shannon.  I'd like to see her have a "happy" season.

2 hours ago, ladle said:

Kelly saying the words "in the bedroom" is the stuff of my waking nightmares.

At least, so far, it's just "in the bedroom".  We could have to listen to a whole list of rooms.

[ladle]

2 minutes ago, dosodog said:

At least, so far, it's just "in the bedroom".  We could have to listen to a whole list of rooms.

Valid.

[BrownBear2012]

6 hours ago, NYCFree said:

I was horrified at the preview scene with Dr. Deb telling her Brownwyn that she was “more fun” when she was drinking. This is a fear many alcoholics have, that they aren’t as fun to be around without being drunk. I loathed her before, I have evil thoughts about her now.

I get the feeling that Rick’s 60th Birthday Party in Miami was the start of filming for this season. It’s weird there are so many scenes from that party, but they really didn’t show it as an integral part of the show.

Her mother is a freak show...and I'm using the word "mother" lightly...she gave birth to Braunwyn. That's about it. Maybe that's why Braunwyn drinks...self medicating her childhood away. And the reason she has so many kids. She needs to cut her mother out of her life. She's useless and pathetic. 

2 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Hmmm, you could very well be right about bipolar. Brauny is a lot like Leah on RHNY. Out of control when drinking, but even when not drinking has a need to always be the centre of attention, and to be doing or saying something that she thinks will shock others. Also agree that she could be on something other than booze. 

And both Leah and Braunwyn have unplugged and emotionally distant mothers.