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S05.E16: Tell All Part 1


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1 hour ago, antfitz said:

I had heard Angela was on the maury show and I looked it up. She looked much better then.  It wasn't like fried nerve endings. Her hair now looks like Phyllis Diller's old Wig.

So are we going to call Michael "Fang"?

 

3 hours ago, IllLitShips said:

I don't think Larissa is selfish for not having her children here. Not everyone is meant to be a parent. I think she knows this. If she's smart enough to recognize that and let people who can give her kids a better life take care of them that's good enough for me. Why bring them into her mess more than they need to be?

I agree.  I am not a fan of hers, in fact I mute her when she is on and I am glad TLC released her so she will be gone soon.  I have not Mommy shamed her because I do believe the kids are better offin their home(s) in Brazil.  She moves from home to home, has no place to call her own as of yet, why subject the kids to that?  They need stability and in Brazil they get that.  Familiar homes, schools, friends and family.

So.....Angela can try to make Michael jealous but if he should make a passing comment to a female at the open air market "Thank you for your time!" he gets a beatdown?  And at age 55 we are trying to make a mate jealous?  And NOW she is realizing marrying him adn following this misguided path could be an error?  I guess she is not even trying to hide her attempt for a spin off show.

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21 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

Jess might want to invest in some new frames.  They look like Coke bottles or the government-issued ones people on the dole in the UK get.

or the kind that come with the "Naughty Librarian" Halloween costume. I remember Colt saying that they had "loving cats and wearing glasses in common" so she could just be wearing them for filming. 

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3 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

That makes sense but when someone takes their dentures out their speech changes and hers doesn’t appear to have changed.

I think she had a flare up of Herpes Simplex 10 (courtesy of Axel Foley)

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1 hour ago, magemaud said:

Even with his weight loss, change of hair style and lack of crooked glasses, I still find him incredibly UNattractive and believe the only women contacting him are trying for reality show stardom. Definitely looking at you, Jess, and possibly Vanessa. 

But Larissa probably thinks being on "Botched" would further her career so it's a chance she's willing to take. 

unpopular opinion here, but I think Colt has a nice face.  He could be doing better in life than these horrible women he's been involved with.  However, I make no comment on his personality or proclivities.  

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I felt that Shawn really went after the male spouses and let the female spouses have the one-sided story telling advantage.  She even asked Michael why he did something when he knew Angela would blow up as a result instead of asking Angela why she gets angry all of the time.  Angela talked about how Michael makes her angry as she is always blaming her for her own temper and outbursts.  I also wondered why Shawn never questioned Libby about why she encourages her family to get involved in her relationship with Andrei.  Stop telling them every little thing.  

Shawn also seemed to lay blame on Asuelu without any reference/thought to Kalani's actions or the over-involvement of her family (looking at you Kolini).  I actually think that Asuelu had a point about volleyball versus stores, etc. (don't hate me...).  He may be playing volleyball with the same small group of people and they may not even have 6 people on a team; plus, it is an outdoor activity.  He also needs someone who will patiently explain things to him and I don't think Kalani is all that patient.  Even the example of smelling the milk-I think in the U.S. that we may not understand the possibilities of contamination, etc., that other people have to deal with on a daily basis.  When Kalani brought that up, everyone laughed at Asuelo without any consideration for cultural differences.  I get why Asuelo may feel he's all alone and nobody is on his side as even when he tries to explain what he means, people are laughing at him.  Shawn also went after him about teaching dancing during COVID-well, at least he is working.    I agree with Kalani and others that he has other responsibilities and that playing volleyball 6 days a week is wayyyyy too much, but lately I have gone shopping and fewer and fewer people are wearing masks and those are people I do not know at all within the confines of a building.  I guess the producers have decided who they want to show as being at fault in all of the relationships (Andrei, Asuelu, Michael). 

And it was obvious that Larissa worked on her "one-liners" prior to the Tell All as her first insult to Colt was that he was fatter than ever, yet he noticeably had lost weight.   

Hopefully the producers will start finding new people for these shows as I think I'm just overly grumpy as I don't really care for these participants.  But, you can bet I'll be watching parts 2 and 3 of the Tell All.

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15 hours ago, RealReality said:

If Andrei wants to man up, he needs to completely cut the purse strings.  Chuck can pull his financial support anytime.  I wish Andrei would get a job just so he could really lay into Chuck, Charlie and Jenn.  Chuck wouldn't have anything to hold over him like he does now.  But Chuck is smug in the knowledge that he has all the power.  

I believe that once a person (man or woman) leaves the work force and lives that type of lifestyle (come and go as you please, no supervisor or job description or performance reviews),it becomes harder and harder to resume compensated employment. 

I noted that Andreiiii made mention of dabbling in "real estate" because he has a lot of talent as a salesman.  That places him in a prospective loop that involves learning about the business and then attending some classes regarding qualifying for the real estate exam (no easy task).  So, that learning curve could take a LONG time. 

I see a mentality (same exists in my immediate family) in Adreiiii that seems very comfortable with putting any actual earning possibility on the back burner for as long as possible.  He rationalizes his financial dependence on Chuck the way "deniers" do and convinces himself that this is simply a stage of his living in a new country with a FIL who is wealthy (is Chuck that "wealthy"?  We'll never know) with the arrangement between them (power in Chuck's hands) accepted by both. 

As "deniers" are wont to do, Andreiii's sense of self-respect and dignity are submerged in a sea of dependence and delusion.  As the research shows a man's identity  and self esteem (more than a woman's) broadly resides in his work experiences otherwise known as "earning a living".  It doesn't matter if both spouses work and it doesn't matter if one out earns the other.....the only thing that MATTERS is that the man earns a living to the extent he can with effort and whatever he earns helps bring the family the level of financial support they need to be independent and self-supporting.

 

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2 minutes ago, seacliffsal said:

I guess the producers have decided who they want to show as being at fault in all of the relationships (Andrei, Asuelu, Michael). 

In other words, all the foreign men and the American women are blameless

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7 minutes ago, seacliffsal said:

I felt that Shawn really went after the male spouses and let the female spouses have the one-sided story telling advantage.  She even asked Michael why he did something when he knew Angela would blow up as a result instead of asking Angela why she gets angry all of the time.  Angela talked about how Michael makes her angry as she is always blaming her for her own temper and outbursts.  I also wondered why Shawn never questioned Libby about why she encourages her family to get involved in her relationship with Andrei.  Stop telling them every little thing.  

I noticed that too.  I even asked her, on Twitter why wasn't she going after "The Family Libby" as much as she was going after Andrei.  

I suspect that there was a producer was in her ear, telling her what to say, so there is that.

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5 minutes ago, alegtostandon said:

Larissa looks horrible! 

Why is she even on this show still? She is past her 90 days,  divorced from the person who brought her over and now hooked up with another sucker. She has nothing to do with the idea of the show. I'm tired of her.

In the beginning this show was mainly about the K1 process.  Then in season 2 (?) TLC hit reality gold, Dani and Mohammad.  She was clueless and he was a scammer.  We (I'll include myself here) couldn't get enough of them.  Now, every season since, TLC has decided to show train wreck after train wreck couples and if their ratings are good, then the formula is working and they're not going to stop.   

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44 minutes ago, seacliffsal said:

Shawn also seemed to lay blame on Asuelu without any reference/thought to Kalani's actions or the over-involvement of her family (looking at you Kolini).  I actually think that Asuelu had a point about volleyball versus stores, etc. (don't hate me...).  He may be playing volleyball with the same small group of people and they may not even have 6 people on a team; plus, it is an outdoor activity.  He also needs someone who will patiently explain things to him and I don't think Kalani is all that patient. 

I think Kalani is more upset that Asuelo is playing volleyball 6 days a week and not tending to the kids and other household duties than she is about the possibility of COVID. 

How could Asuelo's sister sit on the couch looking half dead then throw out the threat about beating someone up...just not very convincing.

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I think it’s a thousand dollars an episode each cast member receives, plus extras  like airfare, etc. There’s no way Angela could afford to fly back and forth to Nigeria or Tania and Syngin to flit off to South Africa at the drop of a hat, or the family Libby to travel to Moldova... ok dad probably paid for the wedding, or Coltee and Debs Brazilian holiday, etc etc.

My point is.. none of them need to find employment now. Even when this group are no longer relevant they still can earn from social media —for a while. But the gravy train always ends. At that point they’ve got to find proper work like the rest of us and reality bites.

I hope Kreeny is ok. 🙁

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I find it ludicrous Larissa is still here, and not back in Brazil.    A man with a similar background wouldn't be allowed to import a K-1 fiance, so why is she still allowed to commit domestic violence, and stay?   

I love the reaction when Tammy A. made the empty threat about beating Kalani up, when they are both on camera, and very separated.     Angela would squash Tammy like a bug.     Kalani could easily flatten Mama A, and Tammy too.    I suspect that in the future, unless someone else is paying, that Family Asuelu isn't going to be dropping in on Family Kalani's dime.  

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2 hours ago, magemaud said:

or the kind that come with the "Naughty Librarian" Halloween costume. I remember Colt saying that they had "loving cats and wearing glasses in common" so she could just be wearing them for filming. 

So they can be knocked askew during doggy style.

1 hour ago, seacliffsal said:

plus, it is an outdoor activity. 

They have shown them playing and it was indoors.

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2 hours ago, Granny58 said:

unpopular opinion here, but I think Colt has a nice face.  He could be doing better in life than these horrible women he's been involved with.  However, I make no comment on his personality or proclivities.  

his face is average/passable, but look downward and it is a shitshow.  

maybe Andrei and libby could be a real estate couple catering to the Tampa Moldovan community. it might be a thing.

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does porn count as a legitimate career for someone on a Visa? why isn't Larissa deported?

TLC fired her, not because the porn (they could choose to look the other way)....but because they no longer felt her story was worth telling.  she's damaged goods at this point, and her boyfriend is a hanger on gay man. what more can she do?

I'm sure the other people that do the websites (I can't even remember their names) aren't returning for another season. because they are boring.  what is Stephanie going to do, pretend to be a lesbian again and go to Nigeria? Avery already made some kind of white supremecist remark...so she won't be renewed.

 

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32 minutes ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

 

I find it ludicrous Larissa is still here, and not back in Brazil.    A man with a similar background wouldn't be allowed to import a K-1 fiance, so why is she still allowed to commit domestic violence, and stay?   

 

Because Adam, her attorney, AKA “Dr. DUI” is a superstar 

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2 hours ago, pdlinda said:

I noted that Andreiiii made mention of dabbling in "real estate" because he has a lot of talent as a salesman.  That places him in a prospective loop that involves learning about the business and then attending some classes regarding qualifying for the real estate exam (no easy task).  So, that learning curve could take a LONG time. 

He probably has NO IDEA what "real estate" means.  He has no respect for his in-laws--probably thinks they're all beneath him in every way, yet somehow they make good money.  He thinks he can do the same.  Will he go to work as a "mere employee" to learn the business...learn what's expected of him by the laws of the State of Florida and his employer (aka Chuck)?  No, he expects to be a partner...right off.  If Andreiiii wants to work in real estate, let him start where others without connections start: the first class.  He won't cut it because he'll be correcting the instructor the first day (probably night).

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45 minutes ago, 2dogmom said:

his body looks like he has a lot of estrogen. 

I agree.   Debbie needs estrogen replacement, her own apartment, and a life.

Debbie, we could respect you if you simply admit that Colt is a liar and a womanizer.  You look like a fool sitting next to him and excusing/encouraging is pathetic behavior.  If it weren't for the Internet, he'd have no way to meet the women he "izes.

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8 hours ago, AZChristian said:

IMO . . . Angela has a GUM abscess because her teeth are dentures, not real teeth.

 

8 hours ago, AZChristian said:

The mask is there because she can't wear her dentures until her abscess heals up.

I saw the scratches that seemed to go from her elbow to her wrist.  I figured she probably fell down. When I heard her lame mask excuse I convinced myself she fell down...and maybe knocked out a coupla teeth!!  She wasn't asked about the scratches.

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We saw entirely too much of Libby’s ( I think I’ll start calling her Labia) criminal organization family this season. TLC better not be planning a Family Labia spin-off!!  I know André is no prize but she never defends him when the thugs get on his case.  

Does Motherwife know that Coltee is sending pathetic dick pics to every woman on the planet?  
 

What was HugeAnge talking about that Mahkul wouldn’t approve of?  I thought the mask might be hiding some bad plastic surgery. 

I love Shawn’s dress! 


 

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Larissa - Plastic surgery made her dumber. She is unlearning English and all she knows now is to jump off her seat and scream at people to call them "bitches" or "fat" - which is rich coming from someone with a scheduled appointment for liposuction. 🐖 She is very boring.

Andrei - His gleeful condescension at Larissa came from such a deep place of misogyny that I could tell he was creaming his pants while slut shaming her. Perhaps he is taking it out on women because he is such a failure given the high testosterone standards and privileges he claims for himself. Perhaps he is taking it out on Larissa especially, because Andrei's financial stability and US citizenship comes from capitalizing on his hunking good looks and height, and exploiting a woman. Larissa did exactly the same thing - capitalizing on her looks and sexuality to come to the US but unlike Andrei, she is hustling and working. Andrei is trapped with the Potthasts dusting bookshelves, vacuuming, and providing half-assed child care, but Larissa is free. Larissa ditched Colt, and is making a living from no-contact prostitution. Andrei couldn't wait to dig into her. He feels that Larissa played the same game, but she won while he lost - at least from his perspective. 🦖

Colt - Colt really enjoys showing off his cat-turd dickaroo. He has zero shame. He's like, yeah so I show my cocktail weiner to everyone all day long, wink, wink! Colt, my DMs are open. Morning, noon, evening... say hello! Don't leave out Debbie and send her a milk geyser shot every once in a while, will you? 😻

Jess - I don't care what her intentions were when she tried to be Colt and Debbie's third wheel, I love Jess. She cracks me up. She's always smiling, and manipulative in such a delightful and devious way. 🤎

Kalani - She's such a nice person. Her expectations of Asuelu were not realistic, he's not going to go from shucking coconuts to the floor of the Stock Exchange. Raking apples is about as good as it's going to get. But... she had to have known that when she married him. Perhaps she thought she could deal him being wholly unsuited for the type of lifestyle she wants. It turns out, she cannot deal with it. She's a bit of a by-the-rules stick in the mud, not the best match for a younger man who is freewheeling. 🥥

Asuelu - I agree with everyone who said that he is isolated and doing the best he can with what he's got. He will never be another person for Kalani, though.

Angela - Fast Forward

Mahkul - Fast Forward 🌛

 

 

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4 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

Jess might want to invest in some new frames.  They look like Coke bottles or the government-issued ones people on the dole in the UK get.

"Coke-bottle glasses" refer to the thick lenses (very thick)...not the shape or color of the frames.   image.png.22f0da3c4846f7cefd78590079b287c0.png

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2 minutes ago, Toaster Strudel said:

Andrei is trapped with the Potthasts dusting bookshelves, vacuuming, and providing half-assed child care,

If only!  You know that's "woman's work" and he will never stoop to that--even if Libby promotes him to House-Husband Partner.  He and Asuelu are THE MEN OF THE HOUSE.

                                              No questions. No backtalk.  And especially, no eye-rolling. 

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So, after reaming Michael for daring to be on the same boat as a woman was on (a couple of seasons ago for those new to the show), for daring to look in the direction of a dancer in a strip club, and for daring to just talk to women, Angela with glee asks Colt for a picture, admits she dirty danced while at the night club, and kids about a relationship with Chuck.  Yes, I know she was kidding (maybe?) about Colt and/or Chuck, BUT, if Michael dared to make a similar joke she would jump to angry while telling him it was his fault she was angry.

I really wish this show would take a stand on domestic violence and abuse.  Sure, they didn't include Geoffrey and Varya on Pillow Talk, and did not have Paul and Karine on the Tell All, but we have seen Angela push, hit, and verbally debase Michael without so much as a peep.

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8 hours ago, Silver Bells said:

I think Andrei was working undercover or something where he can’t talk about it.

I don't think Andrei is humble enough to let something like that go without bragging about it to everyone--especially when drunk.  I think he was a minor criminal.  "I was undercover, but that's all I can say about it; otherwise, my life is in danger."

8 hours ago, Silver Bells said:

He has good ethics I’m sure.

I'm not convinced.  "Good ethics" would have him take the jobs that were offered--real jobs...most of us have to start out near the bottom and work our way up.  He's a "big shot" who realizes he married into money and he has taken every advantage... even ORDERING Libby to TELL her father he will pay for a second wedding.  Somehow he's better than everyone else.  His attitude was a negative in his own country and it's a negative here...especially on television!

8 hours ago, Silver Bells said:

 Libby was wrong not to stick up for Andrei.  (snip)  Libby should know, you don’t knock your husband in front of people, especially those dirtbags.

Perhaps "in front of people" is the only place a wife like Libby is able to get her point across with a hot-headed husband who declares he IS the man of the house...even though he contributes little.  She is probably not nearly so brave when she's not being filmed.

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16 minutes ago, Toaster Strudel said:

Andrei is trapped with the Potthasts dusting bookshelves

Like any of them read.

17 minutes ago, Back Atcha said:

"Coke-bottle glasses" refer to the thick lenses (very thick)...not the shape or color of the frames.   image.png.22f0da3c4846f7cefd78590079b287c0.png

Yeah her lenses looked thick to me.

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10 minutes ago, seacliffsal said:

I really wish this show would take a stand on domestic violence and abuse.  Sure, they didn't include Geoffrey and Varya on Pillow Talk, and did not have Paul and Karine on the Tell All, but we have seen Angela push, hit, and verbally debase Michael without so much as a peep.

THANK YOU, SeaCliffSal.  This needs to be repeated...several times!

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9 hours ago, seacliffsal said:

  I actually think that Asuelu had a point about volleyball versus stores, etc. (don't hate me...).  He may be playing volleyball with the same small group of people and they may not even have 6 people on a team; plus, it is an outdoor activity. 

We've seen their volleyball game on the show.  They played inside a gym.  There may be____ people on a team, but there are two teams, spectators, sweat...probably some spit now and then. I won't believe they wear masks. It seems vastly different from going into a store for groceries ( not just wandering around a mall for entertainment) ...where masks are required, where employees and management are being careful--doing your essential business, and leaving the store.  I may be touchy because my vet's father-in-law just died of the Covid virus.

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All Angela would have to do is aim well, topple over, and Tammy would be squashed.   

Yes, the old graverobbers would just sit on people, and that ended them (after they ran out of graves to rob, supposedly they recruited living people to turn into inventory) 

Asuelu is playing in a crowded indoor gym, and the dance lessons looked like a smaller indoor space too, and not a mask in sight.    

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1 hour ago, Neurochick said:

I don't think Angela could last long in any altercation.  Her lungs couldn't take it. 

She doesn’t need staying power...she could swing one beefy arm across the opponent’s throat, then when they’re doubled over in pain, suffocate them in her smoky, sweaty cleavage.  When they pass out to the ground, she sits on them, and that’s all she wrote.

I’m a large woman.  But I wouldn’t take out the trash dressed like Angela.

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10 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

It would explain the cats.  

Eric is definitely an otter.

The only way they could ever be tempting.

whats an otter?

9 hours ago, Silver Bells said:

Isn’t a butt lift, tummy tuck and liposuction too much at once?  The anesthesia alone can kill her. .

It sounds like too much, though I know that when they do a tummy tuck, they often do a little lipo around there too.  It reminds me of an episode of Nip/Tuck where they had a plastic surgeon who was willing to do anything because he had to maintain an expensive drug habit.  

7 hours ago, Racj82 said:

Not true at all regarding Larissa. Milf/cougar/stepmom porn are among the biggest genres in porn. Being older in porn right now prevents nothing.

And cam stuff. You could make more with having to do way little. Some of the stuff I've heard cam girls do can be odd at times but not hard. Perfect for her lazy ass. You need to put real work in to make money as a stripper.

I feel like there is maybe she is doing some sort of escorting.  

I don't hate Larissa and I find her entertaining but I don't think I'd ever be close friends with someone like her.  She does come off a little lazy (though I think she tried to clean Colt and Debbie's house/garage and got in trouble with the lady of the manor for it) and reticent to actually work a 9-5.  

I maintain that she should find a nice older guy with some money to settle down with.  There are guys who are totally into that silicone doll look, and while I may be alone, I don't think her face looks terrible.  I just think it looks......planned.  

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4 hours ago, seacliffsal said:

Shawn also seemed to lay blame on Asuelu without any reference/thought to Kalani's actions or the over-involvement of her family (looking at you Kolini).  I actually think that Asuelu had a point about volleyball versus stores, etc. (don't hate me...).  He may be playing volleyball with the same small group of people and they may not even have 6 people on a team; plus, it is an outdoor activity.  He also needs someone who will patiently explain things to him and I don't think Kalani is all that patient.  Even the example of smelling the milk-I think in the U.S. that we may not understand the possibilities of contamination, etc., that other people have to deal with on a daily basis.  When Kalani brought that up, everyone laughed at Asuelo without any consideration for cultural differences.  I get why Asuelo may feel he's all alone and nobody is on his side as even when he tries to explain what he means, people are laughing at him.  Shawn also went after him about teaching dancing during COVID-well, at least he is working.    I agree with Kalani and others that he has other responsibilities and that playing volleyball 6 days a week is wayyyyy too much, but lately I have gone shopping and fewer and fewer people are wearing masks and those are people I do not know at all within the confines of a building.  I guess the producers have decided who they want to show as being at fault in all of the relationships (Andrei, Asuelu, Michael). 

Please come sit with me. I so agree with you. Asuelu seems very troubled to me. Lost. Confused. Trapped between two worlds and with the stubborn mindset of a 10 year old who thinks they know everything and instead of having someone around to explain things to him, he is laughed at and treated like a dolt. There is something about Asuelu that tugs at my heart strings. I don't see him as vindictive and mean. Everyone has limits and considering how much he probably holds inside, it doesn't surprise me that he either blows up or becomes passive aggressive. I completely disagree with being unsafe playing volleyball and can also see how his simplistic type of thinking wondered about grocery shopping too. He is so childlike. I felt bad for him with the milk and people laughing at him. I remember many, many years ago, my sister tore the hem on her pants and was sitting on the bed sewing it. It was a Sunday. My mother (immigrant) came into the room and said, "Don't do that. You can't sew on Sunday or when you die you have to rip out all the stitches with your nose." We thought that was crazy but she was serious. The lack of appreciation for the cultural differences and mocking laughter from the "foreign" spouses was stunning considering that each of them likely has experienced something similar at some point. 

I do not like Andrei at all. The whole "man of the house" Ralph Kramden, King of the Castle stuff needs to just stop. Libby needs to tell his ass to STFU with that. That being said, I don't understand why we once again had to sit through the rehash of why Andrei left Moldova. First of all, it's none of Libby's family's business. Second of all, Andrei explained why he left, to Libby, on camera. Why did she not say to her family, "Listen, he told me and that's all that matters so mind your business." No, she sat there and said nothing about it. So they kept asking. Oh, and folks, he not only takes out the trash, but he washes the cars too! I think he's a moocher. He seems unwilling to start at the bottom as if that is somehow beneath him. I will say that I felt so bad while they were showing the clips of the Family Libby dissing Moldova and saying peasant food and stuff. I felt so bad for Andrei having to hear all that. What a disgustingly uncouth group of people they are. 

I have no interest in Angela/Michael, Larissa, and Colt so I didn't pay much attention to those segments. One thing I did notice was that Tania had bugged out looking eyes at many points when they showed her. 


 

 

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On 9/27/2020 at 7:23 PM, Kangatush said:

Some cultures just don't sexualize a breast used for feeding.  I spent time in super Catholic Guatemala where I had to wear pants, or preferably a long skirt, because bare legs in shorts were way to risque, but most of the traditional women's tops had a huge open slit down the front for baby feeding ease.  It's quite possible that Samoa is the same way and mother Kalani understands.

When I visited Egypt I saw women in the full on burkas - the kind with just eye screens- walking around with a full boobie with baby sticking out.

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Possibly, "Most Memorable Comment of the Evening" came from the 'Daughter of Chucky," Jenn.  And that would be her response to Andrei that "at least the bacon SHE eats has some 'meat' on it."  Yup, bacon is always touted as part of a 'good nutritious American meal.' ☢️

Reminds me of when I was a kid choosing my treat from the Good Humor Man.  I always wanted a twin popsicle, but my mother insisted I get an ice-cream bar because "they were more nutritious."  (To this day, I'm still not sure if she was "putting one over on me" or fooling herself!  ☺️

(By the way, some interesting dynamics were displayed by the Chucky family -- sounds like there may be 'family favorites.'  Kids keeping count of 'who gets what from Daddy' COULD be an underlying family issue.  And their newfound show stardom may have fanned the flames.) ♨️

 

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