2020 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp

[Trixi]

On 11/4/2020 at 4:08 PM, DCCOracle said:

 

 

Is this the first video where the thumbnail is not of the person featured?

They also showed Tara on a clip about Kalyssa

[Muckypup61]

22 hours ago, DCCEuphoric said:

Dani is posted!

Love her

This may seem nitpicky, but her backdrop of a patio and wooded yard is too distracting.

[Opine]

53 minutes ago, Stee said:

Has anyone considered that maybe Alora Rose is a Message Board Operative and she was sent to the DCC to sell that product to Marissa so she would lose all her hair, as revenge for her horrible TikToks?!

Shades of Kalteen bars.......

[Trixi]

7 minutes ago, Muckypup61 said:

This may seem nitpicky, but her backdrop of a patio and wooded yard is too distracting.

The yard is more highlighted than she is. 

[vanillagum]

13 minutes ago, Muckypup61 said:

This may seem nitpicky, but her backdrop of a patio and wooded yard is too distracting.

i thought the same lol. weird choice. but clearly it worked for her

[souR77]

1 hour ago, DCCEuphoric said:

Darian is up!

 

I liked her dancing but I just don't get how they can see where and how they're filmed dancing and just hit send. In the first half you can't see her legs but she has all that space. I just find it odd. 

[DallasCeramicPot]

2 hours ago, Opine said:

Shades of Kalteen bars.......

[Jezlyn]

1 hour ago, DCCEuphoric said:

Darian is up!

 

Whats her background?

She doesn't seem as good as the others, Claire W is still the only one I am really wow with, and I found quite a few of her moves to be very childlike. Kinda what you would expect in a elementary school recital.

She is also the first to have me wonder about her flexibility, some of the moves feel like they should have had straight limbs and didn't. But she does have more control and power than yesterday's girl.

[vanillagum]

hate to continually sh*t on these videos but the darian one is really weirdly low energy and slow? 

and yes i know the music doesn't match so that's why it's a little off but it still doesn't look that great

she made the team right?

[BossKeyBlessed]

I actually can’t pass judgment on where these girls decided to film during the height of a pandemic. I’d understand most candidates may not have the luxury of a private studio space or even be able to leave their home backyard when these online auditions started back in the Spring. The DCC judges had to keep that in mind and knew what was important to focus on and not get distracted by trees, much less care if she had dark roots at that point!   I know everything here in town was shut down and going to public places was not an option.  Good for them for figuring something out.  

[kalibean]

22 hours ago, BunnyHop96 said:

Honestly, I think it would do a lot the girls a world of good. Go to school, get a degree or diploma, and even get more experience by joining the schools dance team. Spending 4 years on a university dance team that is well run and has great training can make a huge difference in a dancers ability than jumping straight from the world of competitive dance to the world of pro sports dance.

And it would give a lot of them the chance to mature and gain more worldly experiences through school and living away from home. These are things that kids and young adults need. They need to live out from under the thumb of their parents and mature into an adult on their own and I’m sorry but I just don’t think that can happen jumping from high school and straight into a pro sport dance career which requires quite a bit of maturity from the outset

I so whole-heartedly agree with this.  SMU, TCU, UNT all have great dance teams.  GREAT!  And for those not on the college path, and/or those who don't have a dance team at their university, joining one of the smaller squads to gain experience is a great way to go.  If Stefanie is still head of the Ice Angels, would be great.  She seems really nurturing and also encouraging of her ladies who go for DCC.  And most of all, they get the experience WITHOUT the reality show.  And that's key IMO.   

[Manc.UK.DCCfan]

2 hours ago, Jesiklyn said:

Whats her background?

She doesn't seem as good as the others, Claire W is still the only one I am really wow with, and I found quite a few of her moves to be very childlike. Kinda what you would expect in a elementary school recital.

She is also the first to have me wonder about her flexibility, some of the moves feel like they should have had straight limbs and didn't. But she does have more control and power than yesterday's girl.

According to her video, former Phoenix suns dancer and a cardinals cheerleader 

[LilyD]

On 11/12/2020 at 10:49 PM, DCCOracle said:

That shot of Kashara and Maddie perfectly highlights why one was an amazing outstanding point and the other .... well not. 
Kash radiates and draws attention and Maddie stands there wishing she could hide in a cupboard!

[Lona]

8 hours ago, LilyDutch said:

That shot of Kashara and Maddie perfectly highlights why one was an amazing outstanding point and the other .... well not. 
Kash radiates and draws attention and Maddie stands there wishing she could hide in a cupboard!

Since Maddie has been mentioned, I just wanna say to TPTB: Next season please please PLEASE just pick one point. Enough of this "most senior vet gets point for a bit, then another girl gets point" shtick.

Edited November 14, 2020 by Lona

[CheshireCat]

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[go4luca]

56 minutes ago, Lona said:

Since Maddie as been mentioned, I just wanna say to TPTB: Next season please please PLEASE just pick one point. Enough of this "most senior vet gets point for a bit, then another girl gets point" shtick.

I agree.  Not most Senior, not most "status".  Give it to the one who has the most sparkle, strength and talent to carry the position.

[BunnyHop96]

1 hour ago, DCCOracle said:

Here's the leaderboard from Season 14 as best as I could screenshot it. 

I've been trying to figure out the best way to articulate this but all I'm coming up with is how in the name of sweet baby Jesus is VK THAT HIGH IN THE RANKINGS

[Kitkatkitty]

7 hours ago, vanillagum said:

hate to continually sh*t on these videos but the darian one is really weirdly low energy and slow? 

and yes i know the music doesn't match so that's why it's a little off but it still doesn't look that great

she made the team right?

I agree, and it's also why I wish they used their choreography round video. They could use consistent music and we could see actually how on beat/energetic these girls are. Darian is gorgeous though so I can see why she at least made the second round. 

[Amandared]

43 minutes ago, BunnyHop96 said:

I've been trying to figure out the best way to articulate this but all I'm coming up with is how in the name of sweet baby Jesus is VK THAT HIGH IN THE RANKINGS

Nepotism 

[TUOwl84]

2 hours ago, BunnyHop96 said:

I've been trying to figure out the best way to articulate this but all I'm coming up with is how in the name of sweet baby Jesus is VK THAT HIGH IN THE RANKINGS

I am also surprised that Maddie is so low in the rankings considering she shared the point position with Amy last year.

[AnotherSadLove]

On 10/12/2020 at 8:54 AM, NotthebadVictoria said:

Did I miss the part where Jacie wanted natural hair and Kelly/Judy told her no? This seemed like Jacies perception based on other black cheerleaders telling her to adapt. I don’t see where she said K&J told her no natural hair. 
 

Sorry for the late reply and if this has been acknowledged already. 
 

As a Black woman, I can speak for the fact that we know when our natural hair won’t be accepted. Whether it’s for a corporate job or something like DCC. We’ve been dealing with it for decades now. Laws are getting passed allow people to not hire based on natural hairstyles. 
An employer or person in charge doesn’t have to out right say No or that something isn’t accepted for it to be obvious it’s not what they want. 
DCC has been around for decades, have any of the black women been able to wear an Afro? Locs? Braids? Or the curly/kinky hair that naturally grows from our heads? 
The DCC dance style clearly involves a lot of hair flipping. Our hair grows OUT not DOWN and there ain’t no flipping going on without it being straightened. 
Maintaining a straight hair, wigs, or weaves is a lot of work and cost and I doubt many of the black women went to the DCC salons after makeover day. 
I’d love to see them at least allow box braids. They can protect their natural hair and still give the hair choreography dcc loves. 

 

sorry for the long post. 
 

 

[AnotherSadLove]

On 10/18/2020 at 12:27 AM, RedDelicious said:

I swear I remember watching it on VH1 in the beginning.

 

On 10/18/2020 at 8:19 AM, Kimrs said:

I did too. I don’t listen to country, so I first found it on VH1.  It showed reruns of the show, so when I looked around on the guide I found CMT played the new episodes.

Same. I distinctly remember that very first 2 hour special for the 2005 team being on VH1. Then transitioned to a full season show and started airing on CMT for 2006 and on. 

On 10/18/2020 at 12:27 AM, RedDelicious said:

[scorpio1031]

50 minutes ago, AnotherSadLove said:

 

Same. I distinctly remember that very first 2 hour special for the 2005 team being on VH1. Then transitioned to a full season show and started airing on CMT for 2006 and on. 

I watched it on CMT back in 2005, which was owned by MTV, which also owned VH-1.  It’s possible it aired on both channels since they were trying to sell a yearly show.

[jlc]

5 hours ago, BunnyHop96 said:

I've been trying to figure out the best way to articulate this but all I'm coming up with is how in the name of sweet baby Jesus is VK THAT HIGH IN THE RANKINGS

She's Kelli's second daughter, so she doesn't need to be a really good dancer like the other girls in order to move up. She just has to make sure those horse teeth stay nice and white!!

[aeroluv327]

12 hours ago, DCCOracle said:

Here's the leaderboard from Season 14 as best as I could screenshot it. 

And Christina was ranked SO low!  She was smart to retire after that year, she could have easily been a veteran cut.

I still can't get over how high Ashley and Julia ranked and didn't make the team.  And Ashley was such an early cut.  

[cherryblossom]

Julia was cut due to her attitude & the f bomb captured by CMT.  

 

Also, after hearing about the other DCC FB pages for years I decided to take the plunge & joined two, one with the crazy person with the rhyming name & another one that seems relatively normal. I followed them maybe two months with only posting occasionally on the sane one.  Then there was a huge love fest about VK on the crazy one.  I posted a three letter word(no not fat or any horrible word) & a question mark. Poof the magic wand zapped me out of there faster than...as they said in Shawshank Redemption, I disappeared like a fart in the wind!!!

Edited November 14, 2020 by cherryblossom
Punctuation

[kalibean]

The leaderboard is a little deceptive, though. Maddie got two votes of maybe, IIRC. It just looks super dramatic because so many other vets got a perfect score.  Based on prior comments, it was probably Neil because of her looks and Jay because she flirts with weight warnings.  Nothing wrong with a maybe, just means there’s a reason to not be 100%. Even if Maddie was ranked as low as Christina she still would have been point because she’s a sweet girl and they love her NappyTabs style of hip hop. 
 

I tend to be on the Christy Scales side of things where a vet needs to super F up to not make it back, but I can acknowledge issues. I don’t even mind VK getting all yes scores, because the judges saw major improvement in figure from the prior year, big blonde hair and long legs show well on the big screen and also they know where their bread is buttered.  

[Pau84]

10 hours ago, BunnyHop96 said:

I've been trying to figure out the best way to articulate this but all I'm coming up with is how in the name of sweet baby Jesus is VK THAT HIGH IN THE RANKINGS

Nepotism as high as the sky

Edited November 14, 2020 by Pau84
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[DCCnoname]

17 hours ago, DCCEuphoric said:

 

Girls that are left to be post

You missed Jada between Elli and Jessica 

 

17 hours ago, DCCEuphoric said:

 

Girls that are left to be posted

Elli ✅

Jessica ✅

Kelly ❌

Marissa ✅

Mckenzie ✅

Shannan ❌

Sheridan ❌

Sydney ✅

Tori ❌

 

 

[vanillagum]

1 hour ago, aeroluv327 said:

And Christina was ranked SO low!  She was smart to retire after that year, she could have easily been a veteran cut.

I still can't get over how high Ashley and Julia ranked and didn't make the team.  And Ashley was such an early cut.  

I don’t get what happened with Ashley. One second Kelli is complimenting her and saying “her former Mav teammates who are now DCCs love her and that’s a good sign,” only for her to be the first cut for kicks almost immediately and get a really harsh goodbye. Ashley’s sitting there for two seconds trying to process the cut and Kelli snaps, “We don’t need to drag this out!”

[GaveIn]

2 minutes ago, vanillagum said:

I don’t get what happened with Ashley. One second Kelli is complimenting her and saying “her former Mav teammates who are now DCCs love her and that’s a good sign,” only for her to be the first cut for kicks almost immediately and get a really harsh goodbye. Ashley’s sitting there for two seconds trying to process the cut and Kelli snaps, “We don’t need to drag this out!”

I can't remember if it was speculation or a poster was in the know, but wasn't there talk on here at the time about some kind of rift with Ashley and either Lisa or Julia that trickled over from the Mavs?  I think they were in the same TC group too, which if there was tension, I'm sure that didn't help.

[vanillagum]

4 minutes ago, GaveIn said:

I can't remember if it was speculation or a poster was in the know, but wasn't there talk on here at the time about some kind of rift with Ashley and either Lisa or Julia that trickled over from the Mavs?  I think they were in the same TC group too, which if there was tension, I'm sure that didn't help.

But why would that give Kelli such vitriol toward her 

[GaveIn]

3 minutes ago, vanillagum said:

But why would that give Kelli such vitriol toward her 

Yeah, I don't get it either. I recently rewatched that season and it still puzzles me, because like Kelli said, it seemed like the former Mav vets loved her (when she was announced for TC I believe it was Lexie you see get super excited and greet her when she ran up to to the TC group) and she ranked pretty high.  If I remember correctly, the speculation was the cut was more to appease either Julia or Lisa (I'm leaning more towards it was Lisa....probably around the time she was BFFing with VK 🤣) bc it was very odd that it seemed like Kelli just turned on her.  I know her kicks were kinda low, but to cut her so early for it seemed absurd compared to other girls in her situation in past seasons that did end up making the team.

[Holly85]

33 minutes ago, GaveIn said:

Yeah, I don't get it either. I recently rewatched that season and it still puzzles me, because like Kelli said, it seemed like the former Mav vets loved her (when she was announced for TC I believe it was Lexie you see get super excited and greet her when she ran up to to the TC group) and she ranked pretty high.  If I remember correctly, the speculation was the cut was more to appease either Julia or Lisa (I'm leaning more towards it was Lisa....probably around the time she was BFFing with VK 🤣) bc it was very odd that it seemed like Kelli just turned on her.  I know her kicks were kinda low, but to cut her so early for it seemed absurd compared to other girls in her situation in past seasons that did end up making the team.

Actually her cut was way more then the lisa julia Ashley rift on the Mavs 

[Route66]

28 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

Actually her cut was way more then the lisa julia Ashley rift on the Mavs 

Please elaborate.

[Pau84]

47 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

Actually her cut was way more then the lisa julia Ashley rift on the Mavs 

 

19 minutes ago, Route66 said:

Please elaborate.

 

It was said on these boards that Ashley held some sort of acquaintance with a financial sound individual who promised Ashley that he would 'buy' a spot on the team for her. What Ashley had to do for this favor was never specified. I remember different posters claiming this and stating that Julia was some sort of Mother Teresa. There were quite some (positive and negative) posts about Julia and Ashley.

Perhaps Kelli did not like Ashley's alleged arrangement.

Edited November 14, 2020 by Pau84
I added the question to Holly85

[Holly85]

Just now, Pau84 said:

It was said on these boards that Ashley held some sort of acquaintance with a financial sound individual who promised Ashley that he would 'buy' a spot on the team for her. What Ashley had to do for this favor was never specified. I remember different posters claiming this and stating that Julia was some sort of Mother Teresa. There were quite some (positive and negative) posts about Julia and Ashley.

Perhaps Kelli did not like Ashley's alleged arrangement.

I know I just said it was way more then Ashley julia lift rift Someone else asked for it to be elaborated 

[aeroluv327]

1 hour ago, GaveIn said:

Yeah, I don't get it either. I recently rewatched that season and it still puzzles me, because like Kelli said, it seemed like the former Mav vets loved her (when she was announced for TC I believe it was Lexie you see get super excited and greet her when she ran up to to the TC group) and she ranked pretty high.  If I remember correctly, the speculation was the cut was more to appease either Julia or Lisa (I'm leaning more towards it was Lisa....probably around the time she was BFFing with VK 🤣) bc it was very odd that it seemed like Kelli just turned on her.  I know her kicks were kinda low, but to cut her so early for it seemed absurd compared to other girls in her situation in past seasons that did end up making the team.

Ashley was in Lexie's wedding just a couple of weeks before auditions, they were really close (maybe not anymore, but at least at the time of training camp).  She and Julia seemed close as well, I followed them on Insta and they were together a lot both before and after training camp.

Edited to add: I believe that was also the year that Lexie moved up a lot in the triangle and was a 2GL, so I'm not sure why Judy and Kelli would side with Lisa (a rookie candidate) over Lexie.

Edited November 14, 2020 by aeroluv327

[Pau84]

4 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

I know I just said it was way more then Ashley julia lift rift Someone else asked for it to be elaborated 

I fixed my post and added the right post I was reacting on and which I should have included!

[lemonbus230]

There was no rift that caused Ashley’s cut. Ashley tanked her test during auditions. The day they got groups which was also the day she got cut, they gave her a chance to retake it prior to practice. She bombed it again. We are talking not knowing how many stripes are on the flag. They realized how ridiculous it would look to have her in training camp considering how big a deal they claim to make the test, so they pivoted and made her cut about kicks. That’s why the cut seemed so awkward and abrupt on the show. She was responding to questions about why she didn’t know anything vs statements about kicks. Welcome to the magic of cmt edits.

[rosebud927]

SO my ex boyfriend went to highschool with Annabelle, so if we have any questions, I got the connection!

[vanillagum]

30 minutes ago, lemonbus230 said:

There was no rift that caused Ashley’s cut. Ashley tanked her test during auditions. The day they got groups which was also the day she got cut, they gave her a chance to retake it prior to practice. She bombed it again. We are talking not knowing how many stripes are on the flag. They realized how ridiculous it would look to have her in training camp considering how big a deal they claim to make the test, so they pivoted and made her cut about kicks. That’s why the cut seemed so awkward and abrupt on the show. She was responding to questions about why she didn’t know anything vs statements about kicks. Welcome to the magic of cmt edits.

I forgot they had an actual test. They never mention it. What kind of test is it lol

[Jezlyn]

42 minutes ago, DCCEuphoric said:

Next TCC is Elli!

 

Wow so not keen on all the rolling on the floor. Some parts seem good, overall quite a bit of booty shaking but not the worst.

[MrsEVH]

43 minutes ago, Jesiklyn said:

Wow so not keen on all the rolling on the floor. Some parts seem good, overall quite a bit of booty shaking but not the worst.

Interesting how these girls had to get creative on where they filmed their auditions. Seen a few of inside and outside of garages. It's not just the DCC some of the those auditioning for the Dallas Sidekicks did the same things.

[sATL]

2 hours ago, MrsEVH said:

Interesting how these girls had to get creative on where they filmed their auditions. Seen a few of inside and outside of garages. It's not just the DCC some of the those auditioning for the Dallas Sidekicks did the same things.

I'm looking forward to how they handling the taping. The same was true for things like the professional team drafts. Some players were able to get the HS/college to open privately, some were able to call pvt gym owners, some turned places like storage garages into practice areas (getting the closed gyms to donate/loan equipment),  some traveled to non-hot spot towns, some weather permitting -alot were outside.

Just find a way to work with the rules, as each municipality had varying degrees of shutdown. and shutdown to who/when. I think we (metro ATL)  opened back up late May/June - when were the audition tapes due to K&J ?

There is a commercial (for amazon) where the ballet dancer recital was cancelled due to COVID.  I think it was a sibling who arranged her recital on the roof area of the apt complex. Viewers watched from their windows. Her dance and costume was truly something

https://www.geekwire.com/2020/new-amazon-ad-pays-tribute-human-spirit-kicks-off-holiday-season-midst-pandemic/

Edited November 14, 2020 by sATL
found commercial - the dance/the show must go on

[scorpio1031]

3 hours ago, vanillagum said:

I forgot they had an actual test. They never mention it. What kind of test is it lol

Written test on a variety of topics from who won the Oscars that year to how many yards on a football field.  Here is a website with flash cards

https://quizlet.com/184255439/dcc-auditions-flash-cards/

 

[M1977G]

"I am also surprised that Maddie is so low in the rankings considering she shared the point position with Amy last year."

[Not sure why the above isn't in a quote box, but it's from another poster a few pages back and I guess I copied wrong and now I can't find the original. Sorry to the original poster! I'm not trying to quote without proper credit!] I wasn't surprised that Maddie was so low in the rankings last year, because I am not a fan and I can see how judges would like her less than most of the other vets for appearance and dance reasons. What surprised me is that they chose 3 leaders last year who were among the lowest ranking vets: Maddie, Alexis and Miranda (both 2nd leaders). It also surprises me that they would blatantly pick a point who is not overwhelmingly loved by the judges. They have so many who get perfect scores, why pick one of the least favorite vets at auditions to be a point? I found it strange and telling that they make choices that go against the judges' grain and it just highlighted for me that K&J are gonna do what they want no matter what. Of course, I understand that they have different insight into the kind of team members and leaders the vets are than the judges would have. I felt rather gratified, actually, that Maddie was ranked so low, and it just verifies for me that I'm not alone in thinking she's not top DCC at all.

Regarding the first-round videos: I love that they are posting them so we can "meet" the TCCs before the show (finally) begins, and I think maybe they went with these videos because they have the girls introducing themselves at the start. I don't think these are really freestyle performances; I think they all are choreographed, but some are just really bad choreography that doesn't look...choreographed. Annabelle's definitely was a hot mess hodgepodge of every style she's ever done. That back humping on the ground move was so 1980s jazzercise. What impressed me was her scissors leap. I, like others, am pretty underwhelmed by the majority of these videos (but I'm eager to see the rest!). I agree it is the crappy music, as some have suggested, and I also agree with other posters that the filming environment matters. I begrudge no one for having access to less than studio or backyard-tastic dance and filming locations, but I couldn't help but notice how nice (and large!) some of the houses are where they filmed. It reminds me of the old conversations on here about elitism and privilege and that who makes it onto the DCC are the ones who've had access to expensive dance classes much of their lives. 

Edited November 14, 2020 by M1977G

[Opine]

17 hours ago, Amandared said:

Nepotism 

Oh and a little ass kissing (Brenda's nose is so far up Kelly's ass it is RIDICULOUS) and judge intimidation (Scott, who was our hero the season before suddenly thought she was awesome? ridiculous).

[EricaShadows]

11 hours ago, BunnyHop96 said:

I've been trying to figure out the best way to articulate this but all I'm coming up with is how in the name of sweet baby Jesus is VK THAT HIGH IN THE RANKINGS

I liked the leaderboard because it gives us a visual representation of how the judges see the girls (with a healthy dose of Kelli thrown in).  However, even if I had not seen her first audition and trip through Training Camp, I would have thought the same thing based on the Preliminary round.  How could a girl who falls out of turns get through to the next round?  We've seen MANY a girl who was downright gorgeous but did the same thing or had amazing kicks and danced just fine, but needed a little help in the makeover department or were just overall BETTER, get sent home for who knows what reasons yet Victoria who has technique issues gets passed through.

10 hours ago, Amandared said:

Nepotism 

In a nutshell, yes.  Any girl who did even just ONE of the things she did her first year in Training Camp would have been sent packing and, depending on the issue, would never have been considered again, especially if they lied to Kelli's face.

9 hours ago, TUOwl84 said:

I am also surprised that Maddie is so low in the rankings considering she shared the point position with Amy last year.

To see her that low in the rankings is shocking, but she might have had a poor performance in other areas.  However, she's been there more then long enough to know exactly what Kelli and Charlotte wants so it makes me think that Maddie has an issue with her interview, especially given how poorly she performed when she was with Kelli.  It could also be that she doesn't do well when she's under a lot of pressure or the boss's eye.  If so, she REALLY needs to work on that.

8 hours ago, DCCOracle said:

Also, Brennan is ranked higher than Maddie.

Only 1 year ago, one of the people who was told that she wasn't good enough this year ranked higher than one of the two current 5 year veterans.

Brennan is a solid dancer and a great example of a blender in the good sense.  She doesn't stand out for mistakes or for being too extra, but she is a solid performer who does exactly what she needs to do and brings maturity and something extra off the field.  Granted, she isn't the most beautiful girl on the squad, but she fit every criteria needed until Kelli decided she didn't.

5 hours ago, jlc said:

She's Kelli's second daughter, so she doesn't need to be a really good dancer like the other girls in order to move up. She just has to make sure those horse teeth stay nice and white!!

Yup, but also keep the long legs and blonde hair looking good.

3 hours ago, DCCEuphoric said:

The only reason Maddie and Amy got split point was because there were not solo point girls left to go with (altho Heather was right there) If for example Maggie stayed a 3rd and 4th year she would defo be point without having to share it

I think there were a LOT of girls they could have gone with at the time who could not only dance, but were photogenic and had that spark (Bridget, Caroline, Jalyn, Heather etc.), but they were second or third year vets.  That SHOULDN'T stop Kelli from putting them at point, but she chose Maddie and Amy, both of whom either don't stand out or stands out for looking ridiculously young.   While Amy is good at public speaking, Maddie isn't and there are probably other issues.  I wouldn't be surprised if they were on the list of Kelli's favorites and THAT'S why they got point.

1 hour ago, aeroluv327 said:

And Christina was ranked SO low!  She was smart to retire after that year, she could have easily been a veteran cut.

I still can't get over how high Ashley and Julia ranked and didn't make the team.  And Ashley was such an early cut.  

I think that Christina shouldn't have even made the squad, especially over Brennan that year (I think it was the year they went to Canton) as Brennan was overall a stronger performer, stronger dancer, and a locker room favorite while Christina, well, wasn't (she might have been a locker room favorite, but I don't know about that).  Christina was an easy cut EVERY year since she went to Training Camp, due to her VERY weak solo, poor flexibility, and weak dancing.  There were several rumors about Ashley (which have already been addressed) and Kelli had to come up with SOME reason to cut her because she couldn't very well admit that took a rookie to Training Camp that had the issues Ashley did.  I don't buy Julia's cut either.  She may have been a little rawer, a little less filtered, and a little sexier then Kelli wanted and wasn't getting the polish quite quick enough.  There was probably other reasons that we haven't heard about (but the swear word shouldn't have been one of them).

32 minutes ago, kalibean said:

I tend to be on the Christy Scales side of things where a vet needs to super F up to not make it back, but I can acknowledge issues. I don’t even mind VK getting all yes scores, because the judges saw major improvement in figure from the prior year, big blonde hair and long legs show well on the big screen and also they know where their bread is buttered. 

Problem is, that there have been veterans HAVE super F'd up who made it back while others have one bad day and they're gone.  It all depends on if Kelli likes them or not (among other things).

 

[sATL]

7 minutes ago, Opine said:

Oh and a little ass kissing (Brenda's nose is so far up Kelly's ass it is RIDICULOUS) and judge intimidation (Scott, who was our hero the season before suddenly thought she was awesome? ridiculous).

Brenda is whose child/relative ?