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I watched this last night too, mostly because I wanted to get the tea on the Florian situation (This may be mean, but I didn't like how Stacey treated Darcey when she and Tom visited Albania, and if she's going to be tortured in love I want to be there to see it. Karma, baby!). Agree with all of you who think he's not very attractive, and yeah, the way Stace described him - wow, what a winner she got there! Call me a softie, but I really felt for them in the whole teased dorky introverted high school experience backstory. They could have been telling my high school story, so I really connected with that. I couldn't see anything in their pictures that was so bad (they were kind of cute girls, and as several of you have observed, were actually quite attractive before trying to "improve" their looks) and that connected me even more - I'm in my 50s, and when I look back on my college era photos (I really was dorky looking in high school!) I was pretty cute - but I didn't see it then. It's only been the last 10-15 years that I've been able to look in the mirror and like how I look. That junior high and high school crap can stay with you, unfortunately, I didn't go the plastic surgery route - I was fortunate to have a stable family that loved me just as I was, which helped my self-esteem. I also had a decent college experience to buck me up. I feel like their family instability probably didn't help them any. Dad Silva seemed okay, but they did say he's about to get married for the fourth time, so that may say something about him as a Dad? Also, warring divorced parents probably didn't help. Nothing like feeling like a pawn being used to get back at the other parent to help your self-esteem, you know? Did not need to see Tom again, and am wondering about Stacey's reasoning for meeting with him. Either he's so thirsty for TV time he's willing to look like a pathetic schlub who can't leave Darcey alone so needs to be told to do so by her sister or there were some TLC/Sharp shenanigans going on to get Tom on this show and this was the best story they could come up with. Either way her "He keeps contacting Darcey and now he's contacting me so I need to meet with him to tell him to stop" story doesn't pass the smell test. Really, Stace, you can't just block him? Finally, for aforementioned reasons I kind of enjoyed Darcey spilling the possible cheating tea to her Dad and her general enjoyment of the situation, even if it was a bit high school.

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Oy, where to begin, first, the fashion choices are deplorable. The sibling rivalry is palpable, they are fine with each other but put a man in the mix and the claws come out.  Remember how shitty Darcey was to Stacey when Tom and Darcey went to Albania? Fun, right?

We see Stacey meet Tom for no apparent reason but to put his face on TV again, then Darcey sees social media photos of Florian with some girl...neither wants to tell each other about their news. 

Darcey makes dinner for the family, not a green vegetable in sight and she put the pot of whatever on the table, (that is a huge no no in my book), and Mother Silva asks (as if she is has been told what to ask) if Darcey has been talking to anyone special and of course Darcey has found yet another inappropriate man so we can see her tearless cry over someone she met twenty minutes prior.

My husband had to go to Bulgaria for business, I usually go with him on all international trips but I sat that one out, (he was going to be miles away from Sofia or anywhere interesting), he had to take typhoid medication and I just was not that invested in going in December plus the typhoid meds, not interested.  There are a ton of abandoned buildings that because of the old communist regime nobody claims them to do anything with them.  Darcey finds herself a young, not suitable man to jerk her around till she cries tearlessly about how much she loves him and thought they would be getting engaged.

Rinse and repeat.

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16 hours ago, Kayz Opinion said:

I refuse to watch this dreck but I'm not above reading all the snark.  Were photos of them as children shown?  Wonder what there was about their looks that was off-putting.  Of course, kids will find ANYTHING to make fun of.  I did! And I had my share of ridicule too.

I watched and am one year older than them so grew up in the same era and I would say I guess it is their fairly plain look. They also said they were shy. IDK, they looked fine but average, and I guess the identical twin thing came into play. People probably didn’t notice when they entered a room and that is why they now do so much to make sure everyone notices them even if it is far too much.

ETA I see they graduated in 1992 so we were the same school year as that is when I graduated.

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Do Stacey's kids live with their dad?

i am so in for this show. 

i can't help it - i like the twins. I'm rooting for them. They don't seem like mean girls. Sure there is competitive tlc shit, but they are ok in my book. I just wish they are able to control the drinking.

wonder if they were ever approached for porn?

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43 minutes ago, seasons said:

They don't seem like mean girls.

Darcey has seemed mean (to me) in every episode...before their own show (which so far I haven't/won't watch).

She's fine as long as anyone she deals with is complimenting her; otherwise, watch out.

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On 8/12/2020 at 10:14 AM, Emmeline said:

The ungodly long, dull, damaged hair, the nails, boobs, lashes and lips, yikes!  If they could tone it down a bit they are probably lovely women.      

If there's ever a "Darcey and Stacey Makeover" show, let me know.  I'd love to see them made over head-to-toe.  NO LIP FILLERS or PLUMPERS, please.  They need to let their straw grow out so there's healthy hair to work with.  I bet they could be really cute...really hip.

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I get the impression that Dad is fairly successful, like, probably not super yachts and a new G-V but is more than capable of supporting his two adult daughters in relative comfort without issue...

I grew up in this world, have either of them considered looking into having a fake career that makes them not look like useless dipshits? Like, if you don't actually need to work there is an entire range of "respectable" "careers" where you don't have to do much or even do it well and still project to the world that you are not a worthless muppet.

Handbag designer, owner of a money losing "boutique", part time development associate for a small charity (you throw fucking parties for a living), start an albino ferret rescue, sit on the board of a few non-profits and call yourself a "philanthropist" because you throw them a few grand of Dad's money every year, these and many , many more options are available to you if you don't want the complete summary of "So, what do you do?" to be "Well, I get the check from the trust fund every month and ugly cry when the cheating loser I was online dating from halfway across the world calls me fat."

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I thought Darcey and Stacey did have some type of clothing company on earlier 90D shows? What does one do all day when you have nothing really to do? I guess look on the internet for younger men. I am not sure this show won’t get boring in short order. However, it is helping me tell them apart, which I never figured out on 90D.

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12 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

No. I think you work your way up from the 4 inch heels, to the small platform like the Very Prive to increasingly higher heels til you get to the 6 inch plus types. Some women can walk in them.

Yup and you take one bad fall...break your ankle and the party is over.

I wore really high heels my whole life as an adult, in fact I used to full out RUN in them!

Then one day I stepped out the door into my garage, somehow slipped, broke my ankle, both sides and now I have metal implants and screws on both sides holding my ankle together and I haven't worn heels in almost 3 years and I have no desire to ever wear them again which is shocking because much like the Silva twins I lived in heels.

I watched the show but found it terribly BORING...  They're trying too hard to be outrageous and crazy... The tennis was so embarrassing..they were swinging their boobs this way and that way and the men didn't look at all interested or even amused.

The minute Tom showed up I could barely watch and sort of fast forwarded through the rest of the show.

If Tom is going to be part of the show I won't be watching.

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23 hours ago, Kayz Opinion said:

Were photos of them as children shown?  Wonder what there was about their looks that was off-putting

They showed baby pictures and high school pictures. This is them somewhere in between. Perfectly unremarkable looking, IMO 

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6 hours ago, Kayz Opinion said:

If there's ever a "Darcey and Stacey Makeover" show, let me know.  I'd love to see them made over head-to-toe

That would be a “Makeunder” show. 

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3 hours ago, fountain said:

 

I thought Darcey and Stacey did have some type of clothing company on earlier 90D shows? 

 

Yes, their” House of 11” fashion business still has an active website which sells things like the bedazzled denim jackets, ugly oversized sunglasses, rhinestone “Goddess” barrettes and sparkly platform sneakers that you’ve seen the sisters wearing on TV. In keeping with the times, they even have a logo face mask 

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14 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Darcey makes dinner for the family, not a green vegetable in sight and she put the pot of whatever on the table, (that is a huge no no in my book), and Mother Silva asks (as if she is has been told what to ask) if Darcey has been talking to anyone special and of course Darcey has found yet another inappropriate man so we can see her tearless cry over someone she met twenty minutes prior.

Believe it or not, that was apparently a big old pot full of taco meat.  

I almost choked on my wine when someone at the table told her, "I've always loved your tacos."

This comment came at the table whilst they were eating, after seeing her dice an onion and apparently brown the meat.  Daddy Silva had dragged out one of those pre-made taco kits that includes shells from the pantry. 

Of course, we really shouldn't be critiquing her.  After all, she did used to work in a restaurant!  😄 

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Now, on a separate topic, I have a question for y'all.

Anybody here watch Gilmore Girls?  Set in the fictitious Stars Hollow, Connecticut?

Anybody here recall the character of Babbette (played by Sally Struthers), the sweet but quirky neighbor?

Remember how odd her speech was?  The odd inflections and cadence and up-ticks?  

Remember how she was so short and her house had almost kid-sized appliances and extremely low ceilings and doorways?

I was watching a rerun of it yesterday and (because quarantine and this heatwave are driving me batshit crazy), I couldn't help but wonder if Amy Sherman Palladino was inspired by the Silva twins when she wrote the character of Babbette.  The weird speech patterns and the extremely short stature added to the Connecticut locale really had me raising an eyebrow and giggling.  

Of course, Babbette was quirky and not a batshit crazy drunk, so I guess it's all just an entertaining coincidence.  😄 😄 😄

 

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2 hours ago, Persnickety1 said:

Believe it or not, that was apparently a big old pot full of taco meat.  

No lettuce, tomatoes, cheese, quac or salsa, who has taco night without the toppings or refried beans or rice??

I have a feeling we will get some more well timed lines from Pappa Silva before this show is over!

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On 8/17/2020 at 8:31 AM, lulu69 said:

I'm sure this has been covered before but are they identical twins? Darcey's jawline appears to be much broader than Stacey's. In fact, this is how I always tell them appart. No doubt they've aggressively pursued the identical angle through plastic surgery.

My ex-husband had an identical twin and they really weren't identical, especially as they got older. The only time I had the least difficulty telling them apart is if they were far away. I think there are always slight differences.

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I find Stacey to be the prettier twin. There's something very unattractive to me about Darcey's pinched-looking snout. Stacey appears a bit "softer" and not as "severe" as Darcey in the face. 

The both of them though, are a carnival side show. Darcey's daughters really have to be appalled by them. Having a 13 year old daughter myself, basically breathing or speaking annoys and embarrasses teen daughters. 

And I feel they pic the most unattractive men. Florian, Jesse and Tom are just so creepy. 

Dying to know more about their ex-husbands and the whereabouts of Stacey's kids..because, I have no life. And I enjoy sending Mr. Snarkish out of the room.

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1 hour ago, snarkish said:

The both of them though, are a carnival side show. Darcey's daughters really have to be appalled by them. Having a 13 year old daughter myself, basically breathing or speaking annoys and embarrasses teen daughters. 

I feel so sorry for them.  I can't imagine what they put up with from friends and classmates.  They probably had enough to deal with before their mother was on TV ... and then to have them see what a pathetic, needy fool she is.  Appalling!

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Tom:  “I must have the last word with Darcy!”

Darcy:  “I just want Stacy to be happy . . .but not happier than ME-E-E!”

Stacy:  “I only see my boyfriend a few times a year, but I just KNOW he would NEVER cheat on ME-E-E!”

Florian:  “Stacy who??”

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On 8/18/2020 at 12:26 PM, Baltimore Betty said:

No lettuce, tomatoes, cheese, quac or salsa, who has taco night without the toppings or refried beans or rice??

I have a feeling we will get some more well timed lines from Pappa Silva before this show is over!

That is what I was thinking - where is the lettuce, cheese, green onion, tomatoes, jalapenos.  I have never seen anyone (except my son who only likes meat and cheese) put nothing on a taco.  The hard shells and pre-mixed taco seasoning okay I will let that go.  But just meat, seems weird to me.

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19 hours ago, snarkish said:

And I feel they pic the most unattractive men. Florian, Jesse and Tom are just so creepy. 

Dying to know more about their ex-husbands and the whereabouts of Stacey's kids..because, I have no life. And I enjoy sending Mr. Snarkish out of the room.

Stacey's ex-husband is a retired professional soccer player so it's fairly easy to find pictures of him back in the day and even fairly recently. He lives in Middletown so I've always assumed they had shared custody of the boys. Whereas Darcey's aspiring rapper ex-husband had primary physical custody of the girls and lived in upstate New York. He dropped the rap and became a real estate agent and opened a B&B.

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23 hours ago, snarkish said:

Darcey's daughters really have to be appalled by them. Having a 13 year old daughter myself, basically breathing or speaking annoys and embarrasses teen daughters. 

I think Darcey's daughters take on the "encouraging mother" role in the relationship and are probably flattered that she treats them as her besties/contemporaries/confidantes. 

I also believe Stacey's sons might live with her (and Darcey and their cousins) at least part-time, but they're not filmed. 

"(Stacey) was first married to a Siberian soccer player named Goran Vasic who played professionally in Yugoslavia and the United States. They have two sons Parker and Mateo Vasic.. It's not known if Stacey shares the custody of her sons with her ex-husband, but it does seem like she prefers to have them off-camera."

according to Goran's FB page, he also lives in Middletown, CT and runs a soccer academy. There are pictures of him and his kids, one with a woman who may be his second wife. 

Edited to add: I noticed on the preview when Darcey says “I don’t trust Florian” the way she pronounces it sounds just like “Goran.” 

 

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What I've noticed is these two have outrageous expectations for everything.   It all has to be the perfect Fairy Tale.   Stacey wanted her first night in America with Florian to be a Fairy Tale.  He was likely exhausted.   No wonder they are always disappointed.  Life isn't perfect.  Ugh these two give me anxiety. 

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On 8/19/2020 at 7:51 PM, Azanscrazyhair said:

Ugh these two give me anxiety. 

If they gave me anything, it would probably be gas (only for comedic effect).image.png.864d80b44f3bb48b3d97fb578aa856d5.png

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9 hours ago, Azanscrazyhair said:

What I've noticed is these two have outrageous expectations for everything.   It all has to be the perfect Fairy Tale.   Stacey wanted her first night in America with Florian to be a Fairy Tale.  He was likely exhausted.   No wonder they are always disappointed.  Life isn't perfect.  Ugh these two give me anxiety. 

It's always like that, the import has been travelling for 24 hours, finally lands and the local only wants to go to the hotel and jump in bed...never really thinking about the person that just got off a plane wanting a shower, nap or meal let alone to go potty! Rose petals on a bed just does not do it for me, all I can think of is how the petals will stain a white comforter, a bubble bath would be more welcoming but not if there was someone else expecting to jump right in.  Florian will be trotted out to the local photographer for a sexy photo shoot, he will meet the parents and kids but will be unable to have a conversation, Father Silva has really got to start saying no to these girls.

The Silva Twins have read way too many bodice rippers and watched way too many rom coms. 

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I will say after watching the show gives me insight into why these two are the way they are.   They have to constantly one up each other.   The very best thing would be for them to live in different houses.  Darcey needs intensive in patient treatment for her alcoholism and emotional issues.  What she deserves is to live a happy normal life with her daughters without all these pathetic 20 something year old men or any man for that matter.    

 

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1 minute ago, Azanscrazyhair said:

I will say after watching the show gives me insight into why these two are the way they are.   They have to constantly one up each other.   The very best thing would be for them to live in different houses.  Darcey needs intensive in patient treatment for her alcoholism and emotional issues.  What she deserves is to live a happy normal life with her daughters without all these pathetic 20 something year old men or any man for that matter.    

 

Other than the D I cannot fathom what the attraction is to Florian, he does not seem to have a job other than being a gym rat/fitness model, has no money, not very interesting, hardly speaks English, how and why does Stacey love him? I really should not knock Florian for not having a career because neither does Stacey or Darcey but honestly, how can you be in love with someone when your conversations consists of "you look so hot," "I can't wait to see you in person so we can have the sex," "what do you think of my outfit today, don't I look hot?" 

Daddy Silva will be supporting Stacey, Darcey and now some Eurotrash named Florian.

Darcey will start to drunk cry about being left out, excluded from the couple's activities, wedding plans, etc...I predict that will fill 80% of her future screen time.  I am waiting for the actual wedding because Darcey will blow a gasket and make an ass out of herself, anything for the spot light to be on her.

Daddy Silva has got to start saying no to those girls.

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5 hours ago, Azanscrazyhair said:

Darcey needs intensive in patient treatment for her alcoholism and emotional issues. 

And TLC executives should foot the bill...personally!   Giving Darcey "her own" show is only adding to her decline.

And, although Tom isn't likeable, WHY aren't his comments about her many (many!) issues given the credence/attention they deserve?  He can provide an excellent and complete bullet list while semi-conscious.

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Episode 2:

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"Arrivals and Departures"

Stacey's Albanian fiance, Florian, arrives in America, and the couple's 90 days begin. Darcey reveals a sexy new love interest. Stacey comes clean about meeting up with Darcey's ex, Tom.

Airs August 23, 2020.

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2 hours ago, Kayz Opinion said:

And, although Tom isn't likeable, WHY aren't his comments about her many (many!) issues given the credence/attention they deserve? 

I think we can figure out Darcey's issues with little input from Tom.  Tom is more than unlikeable.  He's a completely egotistical phony, phony in his English gentleman pose, phony in his accent, phony in his staged photos of where he lives or hangs out.  I don't want to hear anything from him!

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Re: Darcey's poor daughters -- I remember when the 3 of them went bowling after one of her big blowouts with Jesse (this seems like 100 years and bottles of wine ago) and the scene was basically the 2 girls consoling Mom over her man troubles.  It made me so sad and so mad.  They've probably spent their entire life having to console her and try and make her feel better even before they knew what they were doing.  There goes Mom ... flung across her bed drunk crying again.  Let's go try and wrestle the cell phone and wine glass out of her hand...

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On 8/17/2020 at 8:42 AM, Scarlett45 said:

The first episode was BORING. 

They make The Family Chantal seem like riveting tv.

In her talking heads Darcey looks like Courtney Love.  I hope that’s not intentional.

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On 8/19/2020 at 1:16 PM, HunterHunted said:

Darcey's aspiring rapper ex-husband had primary physical custody of the girls

Interesting. Would think primary might go to the mother. Apparently, she's been like this for awhile. 

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6 hours ago, sagittarius sue said:

I think we can figure out Darcey's issues with little input from Tom.  Tom is more than unlikeable.  He's a completely egotistical phony, phony in his English gentleman pose, phony in his accent, phony in his staged photos of where he lives or hangs out.  I don't want to hear anything from him!

No problem. It wasn't about figuring out.  I'd like to hear Tom's little litany now and then--organized and precise.  But wait!  I refuse to watch the D&S S-Fest, so...never mind.   Perhaps I've forgotten...is Darcey NOT phony?

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On 8/18/2020 at 8:00 PM, snarkish said:

And I feel they pic the most unattractive men. Florian, Jesse and Tom are just so creepy. 

I was just thinking how good these three make Pedro look.

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15 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Darcey will start to drunk cry about being left out, excluded from the couple's activities, wedding plans, etc...I predict that will fill 80% of her future screen time. 

That’s why Central Casting gave us the Bulgarian with the man bun.  Boris or Sergei or whatever.

9 hours ago, OnceSane said:

Darcey reveals a sexy new love interest.

I think they meant “sexy.”

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I cannot watch this drivel.  The boobs and lips twins. All that fake hair, all that fake crying, all that fake boobs all that fake lips... Just too much! And I hate their whiny voices. Guys could do better with a blow up doll, I think.  At least dolls are quiet.

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Omg the airport kissing... Ugh!

She wraps her legs around him as he lifts her ass... That's OK for teenagers or early twenties... She's damn near 50 and looked like a fool plus Florian looks young enough to be her kid.

That coat and those shoes topped off with the scraggly mermaid hair lolol!!!

They have absolutely no idea what's appropriate or attractive.

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Those impossible shoes they like to stuff their feet in!  My husband is from Queens and last time we went to NYC, I asked that do the midtown tourist thing (think walking thru Central Park, going to Grand Central, hitting up the NY Public library, drinking a coffee in Bryant Park, etc etc).  You know what I wore?  Some damn sneakers because I'm mad cute, but we did 27K+ steps that day, and I didn't want to be hobbled.  

I told my friends we should start a drinking game every time Florian the Sloth calls Stacey "angel".  We quickly abandoned the idea b/c our livers would give up 10 min in.  "I trust you, but the phone I just bought you will have my thumbprint"  is SOOOOO Darcey/Stacey.   You can tell Sloth is in it for the sugar mama.  His modeling pictures are SUCH A LIE compared to what he looks like IRL. 

How does Darcey and her issues keep hooking into these men?  DC Viktor Krum is actually giving me good vibes.  He's cut, cute, down for the chase, but isn't yet weird.  I'm sure we'll find out 100 weird things about him b/c that is what Darcey attracts, but for the moment, he seems great.  Also, this is rebound is totally b/c Stacey has the Sloth coming into town.  Everyone but Darcey knows. 

SUPER telling how mad Darcey got about the suggestion to see a therapist.  This is part of the sister's issues right there - why wouldn't she pull her sister aside and let her know what's up about seeing Tom and in a very separate conversation talk to her about just seeing something to talk about the two very ugly, very public breakups she's had?   They have no idea how to communicate with each other. 

Darcey's girls seem fairly well adjusted, and I always appreciate a mean girls reference.  

Finally, these woman have a problem with expectations and the fantasy being real.  Whether Darcey's bathtub scene (which was actually adorable b/c Darcey is a bit of a klutz, which I appreciate) or Stacey's "perfect night" when poor Sloth came in from a multi hour flight, their level of expectation is too high to fulfill or sustain for a long, healthy relationship. 

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2 hours ago, TrininisaScorp said:

How does Darcey and her issues keep hooking into these men? 

She's on television?   She has been on various reality shows since 2010?  Additionally, her clothing line seems successful, so she has some money.   "These men" are the types who also yearn for fame*, so they'll hook their "whatever" to a Silva Sister.

*Fame or a life of ease.

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Ugh I  am utterly ashamed to admit that I watched this train wreck. Everything about this show is so fake and over the top. And yet the most unbelievable thing to me is that these two imbeciles allegedly went to college. 

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2 hours ago, lizajane said:

Ugh I  am utterly ashamed to admit that I watched this train wreck. Everything about this show is so fake and over the top. And yet the most unbelievable thing to me is that these two imbeciles allegedly went to college. 

Did they say which college?

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Darcey is fine when it is all about her but Stacey gets attention from a guy and Darcey cannot deal so she scrambles to find a man then brag about how much better he is, I have a feeling it has been like this since they were in utero. They are stunted mentally, none of their relationships ever work out because they use men to one up each other, they could have been great material for Shakespeare.

Seriously, they really scrape the bottom of the barrel for men, they know that, right? They know these men do not work, have no career goals, have no money and use the same photo filters they use, right?

 

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First of all, from. the live thread, courtesy of @charmed1

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“First of all Darcey, there are a lot of skeevy European guys in this room that love ya like crazy...”

Killed me dead. I am slain. Please scatter my ashes in Middletown Connecticut, New York City, and Moldova.

 

11 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

Omg the airport kissing... Ugh!

She wraps her legs around him as he lifts her ass... That's OK for teenagers or early twenties... She's damn near 50 and looked like a fool plus Florian looks young enough to be her kid.

That coat and those shoes topped off with the scraggly mermaid hair lolol!!!

They have absolutely no idea what's appropriate or attractive.

What a mess. Imagine walking down the street and seeing Darcey and Stacy bearing down on you--those huge rabbit coats, the ersatz Loubs, the horsetail extensions, the watermelon boobs, and the lips that precede them into a room by a full five minutes. I'd either be struck dumb or run for cover. 

On 8/17/2020 at 10:59 PM, John M said:

I get the impression that Dad is fairly successful, like, probably not super yachts and a new G-V but is more than capable of supporting his two adult daughters in relative comfort without issue...

I grew up in this world, have either of them considered looking into having a fake career that makes them not look like useless dipshits? Like, if you don't actually need to work there is an entire range of "respectable" "careers" where you don't have to do much or even do it well and still project to the world that you are not a worthless muppet.

Handbag designer, owner of a money losing "boutique", part time development associate for a small charity (you throw fucking parties for a living), start an albino ferret rescue, sit on the board of a few non-profits and call yourself a "philanthropist" because you throw them a few grand of Dad's money every year, these and many , many more options are available to you if you don't want the complete summary of "So, what do you do?" to be "Well, I get the check from the trust fund every month and ugly cry when the cheating loser I was online dating from halfway across the world calls me fat."

I wondered that myself! There are so many do nothing "socialites" out there. If Daddy's pockets are deep enough the society. dames will surely overlook their utter social gaucheness.

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When Stacey was describing Florian's kissing style what with him biting on her lip and then sucking it...

I had a visual of him being a vampire and feeding off of the silicone in her lips instead of blood.  

Maybe that's why he looks ill, silicone ingestion.  

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