S04.E16: Tell All Part 1

[OnceSane]

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Shaun Robinson takes a deep dive with the cast into the details of their most intense and personal moments this season.

Airs June 7, 2020.

[deirdra]

Has Tom put on weight?

[Adeejay]

I don't believe Stephanie knows what the word "narcissist" means.  I am pretty sure if you were to look the word up in a dictionary, her picture would be right next to it.  Her two friends seemed drunk. They most certainly did not acquit themselves very well.  I apologize on behalf of all New Yorkers. 

 It's hard to understand how after seeing the show, Tiffany had the nerve to say Rose was deceitful.  Perhaps she was jealous and angry because her father was willing to risk their relationship to reunite with Rose.

 

[sasha206]

Tom is doing all he can to keep his 90 day fame going isn't he?  I bet he lands on other reality shows once this dries up.

Darcy and her revenge body!  I love her.  I wish someone would give her a make-under and remove the fillers.  

Rose.  She's a scammer.  I did not believe the tears at all.  Ed should be sentenced to a lifetime of her screeching monotone.

Stephanie is an idiot.  Erika is delightful.

Lisa's cackle sounded like she smoked 3 packs of Marlboro's before she got on.

1 minute ago, Adeejay said:

 It's hard to understand how after seeing the show, Tiffany had the nerve to say Rose was deceitful.  Perhaps she was jealous and angry because her father was willing to risk their relationship to reunite with Rose.

 

I felt bad for Rose on the show, but watching her on this episode made me think she's just a scammer. 

[Caseysgirl]

I think this was one of the better “Tell All’s”. Though she missed a few cues, I think Shaun is getting the hang of this now. Loved her surprising Stephanie with the stripper story.  I guess Tom must have watched the RHOA reunion & took the Nene way out.

[Adeejay]

4 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

I  felt bad for Rose on the show, but watching her on this episode made me think she's just a scammer. 

I think if Rose was a scammer, she would have stayed with Big Ed.  He was still ripe for the picking.

[My Girls]

I love this quarantine format!  I hope they can do something similar in the future.  We actually got some entertainment, I'm sure they wouldn't have spoken to each other in person this way.

[sasha206]

1 minute ago, Adeejay said:

I think if Rose was a scammer, she would have stayed with Big Ed.  He was still ripe for the picking.

Actually I don't think he was ripe for the picking.  He's fucking cheap!  

2 minutes ago, Chloe Dog said:

I love this quarantine format!  I hope they can do something similar in the future.  We actually got some entertainment, I'm sure they wouldn't have spoken to each other in person this way.

That's true!  I doubt a lot of them would break bad for fear they'd get their ass kicked!  

[SunnyBeBe]

I missed part of this and part of live chat. Did they ever say anything else about Geoffrey and V not being on the tell all?

Edited June 8, 2020 by SunnyBeBe

[Christina]

I cannot like posts again. It's very frustrating. I think this show broke Primetimer again.

Several questions and comments in the Live Feed thread are answered in the Couples' Forum. They are spoilers, though.

9 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I missed part of this and part of live chat. Did they ever say anything else about Geoffrey and V not being on the tell all?

Nope, just that they couldn't make it or something dull and not explanatory.

[Callaphera]

I'm Team Rose, Team Erika (fuck Stephanie and her drunk friends), and Team Darcey. And y'know what, I'll throw my hat in for Team Avery, too, because she might have been the most responsible, rational parent I've ever seen on a version of this show. 

Fuck Tom. Fuck Ed and his sex tourism. Fuck Yolanda's boring ass 12 hour catfish story that got stretched into 15 episodes worth of content although it may have been worth it for Usman pretending like his phone was going to ring when she was trying to call The Williams. Fuck Tom and his disappearing lips. Fuck Stephanie and her drunk friends again. I think I got them all. 

Honestly, if I was ever in a place in my life where I was having self-esteem issues or doubts about myself because of a relationship, I would want Darcey and Erika propping me up like they did for Yolanda and Rose. We love to see women supporting women. 

[Pondlass1]

Finally Shaun is asking the follow up questions we’re all thinking. Not having the twits on the sofa together is the best thing. I prefer this format.  👍🏻

[sasha206]

5 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Honestly, if I was ever in a place in my life where I was having self-esteem issues or doubts about myself because of a relationship, I would want Darcey and Erika propping me up like they did for Yolanda and Rose. We love to see women supporting women. 

Every one of her reunion shows, I always think that Darcy is a very sweet person.  And as ridiculous as she can be, that I like her.

[spunky]

The fact that Lisa and Tom joined almost everyone else in calling out Ed on his vile behavior says a whole lot. Like father like daughter, Tiffany is just as vile as her father. David was absolutely right, if Ed truly wanted a marriage he would have told Rose he didn’t want anymore children before ever going to the Philippines. He got what he wanted, which was sex with Rose.

David of all people trying to tell Yolanda about scammers. He needed to sit this one out. I’m assuming those yahoo boys are the 50 men Lisa referenced a few episodes ago. That’s the only thing that makes sense. Stephanie’s friends are obnoxious human beings. New York State would like to apologize for the misrepresentation and would also like to trade them for someone from another state. Stephanie and Tom can get married and get off of my tv screen.

Darcey got on my nerves with her constant crying this season. However I loved her calling Ed out and building Rose up. She had me cracking up with her revenge body. I hope that she finds someone better next season, because we all know she’ll be back.

[Christina]

Does anyone have this recorded? Didn't Ed say something to Rose like, "Are we going there?" when she mentioned a sex video? If he knew what she was talking about before she said anything, then his denial is proven wrong immediately. I believe it anyway, but just read something defending him and started second guessing my memory.

[My Girls]

1 minute ago, Christina said:

Does anyone have this recorded? Didn't Ed say something to Rose like, "Are we going there?" when she mentioned a sex video? If he knew what she was talking about before she said anything, then his denial is proven wrong immediately. I believe it anyway, but just read something defending him and started second guessing my memory.

Yes, he totally did!  I was thinking the same thing, he's absolutely lied about it!

[Safadao]

Steph is the most toxic person on this season. I feel really bad for Erica.  
 

Erica will one day find happiness.  Steph will be miserable her whole life because as in her own words, “this is not how I expected It to turn out”

[Armchair Critic]

38 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

I felt bad for Rose on the show, but watching her on this episode made me think she's just a scammer.

You and me may be sitting in the corner alone but I am with you. Ed is an ass but I think she's shady and she always has a stank face and seems to get mad very quickly.

[deirdra]

Steph is delusional.  Everything she said about Erika being a narcissist who only thought about herself is true of Steph! But she doesn't see it.

[Safadao]

Steph’s obnoxious friends tells me a lot about Steph herself. That she can be friends with these miserable cretins 

[Callaphera]

8 minutes ago, Christina said:

Does anyone have this recorded? Didn't Ed say something to Rose like, "Are we going there?" when she mentioned a sex video? If he knew what she was talking about before she said anything, then his denial is proven wrong immediately. I believe it anyway, but just read something defending him and started second guessing my memory.

Ed said "We're really going to go there? We're going to go there?" So yeah, it takes the air out of his denial. 

[Safadao]

I agree with everyone who thinks Rose is a scammer. Ed is a scumbag as well. Maybe they were perfect for each other 

[1011101010001]

52 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

Perhaps she was jealous and angry because her father was willing to risk their relationship to reunite with Rose.

Didn’t Ed say in one of the last two episodes that he still wanted to try to work things out with Rose?  Then he lies yet again by saying the interest was one way from her.  I don’t doubt that she was still trying to shake him down for whatever more she could get though.

[Impalace]

1 hour ago, Caseysgirl said:

I think this was one of the better “Tell All’s”. Though she missed a few cues, I think Shaun is getting the hang of this now. Loved her surprising Stephanie with the stripper story.  I guess Tom must have watched the RHOA reunion & took the Nene way out.

I watched the 10 hour leaked tell all and Shawn took all her cues from Barbara in her ear piece. 

[kendi]

38 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

Didn’t Ed say in one of the last two episodes that he still wanted to try to work things out with Rose?  Then he lies yet again by saying the interest was one way from her.  I don’t doubt that she was still trying to shake him down for whatever more she could get though.

He came back so defeated, I believe that he was the one that reached out to Rose. She went into a relationship with another person and he outs her on national TV. I think she rejected him again and that's why he came out swinging. I cut him no breaks. He lied on TV, saying he was willing to risk his relationship with his daughter again and whoops! She was listening in. He'll say whatever he needs to make himself look like the good guy.  

[Adeejay]

I was shocked to hear Stephanie say she was a stripper. I don’t know much about strip clubs, but I can imagine that they are filled with germs. I wonder how she managed, what with her being so sick. And, if memory serves, she was extremely angry when Erika took her to have her breasts encased in plaster.  Miserable, effing hypocrite. 

[Colfrmb]

And the Emmy goes to the editors of reunion part one for taking a 10 hour poop show and boiling it down to a nearly sane, rational and intriguing  show!  I bet you went through a lot of bottles of booze and aspirin to get to the end.  I’m really impressed.

[kendi]

5 minutes ago, Colfrmb said:

And the Emmy goes to the editors of reunion part one for taking a 10 hour poop show and boiling it down to a nearly sane, rational and intriguing  show!  I bet you went through a lot of bottles of booze and aspirin to get to the end.  I’m really impressed.

Surprisingly, none of the 10-hour leak was on this Tell-All. The leaked 10-hours was Day Two. I'm very curious to see how Part 2 is edited.

[Callaphera]

16 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

I was shocked to hear Stephanie say she was a stripper. I don’t know much about strip clubs, but I can imagine that they are filled with germs. I wonder how she managed, what with her being so sick. And, if memory serves, she was extremely angry when Erika took her to have her breasts encased in plaster.  Miserable, effing hypocrite. 

The stripping was pre-illness. I hate that I know enough about her to know that. 

8 minutes ago, kendi said:

Surprisingly, none of the 10-hour leak was on this Tell-All. The leaked 10-hours was Day Two. I'm very curious to see how Part 2 is edited.

Some of it was. Yolanda's bit was definitely from the leak. I know because I sat through it until that point and then wondered where I went wrong with my life that I was sitting there watching it (and then I poured another glass of wine and watched for another hour because masochism, yo). ETA: Actually, that's kind of interesting because some of the reactions like Erika telling Yolanda that the threatened leaked nudes were wrong and not Yolanda's fault and others that were shown on the show weren't part of that leaked part that I watched so I'm curious to see the Nancy Drews coming up with comparisons after Part Two to see where they inserted comments from Flap Segment A into Slot Segment B. 

Reality TV editing: it's like building IKEA furniture but none of the screws are stripped and you don't lose the stupid Allen key in the first five minutes and no one threatens divorce.

Edited June 8, 2020 by Callaphera

[Colfrmb]

@kendi, I never got a chance to see the 10 hour leak.  I was just going off what people reported here.  Maybe part 2 has more chaos and yelling.  Oh no, now I’m dreading watching but you know I will!

[Frozendiva]

Ed and Rosemarie: Somewhere between the two stories, is the truth. I doubt that Rose is the pure and innocent party - she probably was a scammer who got more than she bargained for. Ed did not visit the Philippines with good intentions - he was looking for a wife to buy. He should have put no kids on his dating profile and he and Rose should have had some more in-depth conversations about both their intentions. Rose did show some emotions, but she could have been acting for some attention/make Ed the bad guy, which he could do on his own. No need to bring the daughter on-board. She was not there to witness anything and she has her own issues with her father. Ed may find love again, or a more bendable woman who will put up with his crap.

Avery and Ash: Well, the tight pants didn't do it for her. Nor the big bug eyes. Is Ash a good partner for her? Not right now. Too many lies, too many insecurities, too many energy issues with both. And the lies. A diet wouldn't be the end of them, unless it was the last in a long series of straws. Ash's being 'single' was not a good thing to say. Technically, he is single, and maybe did not value Avery in a relationship. And now Tom somehow is involved? Really?

Erika and Stephanie: Erika didn't quite get to say what she wanted. Steph and her friends did the complete override. Mostly Steph projected about herself. If her illness is that serious, she could have asked her doctor to provide a list of prohibited activities. At her age, Erika probably does not want to cater to Steph. Steph also showed her very little affection. Maybe she is bi, maybe she is confused, maybe she has to learn more about herself. But not at the expense of others. Steph's drunk friend was not welcome and Steph came across as needy, entitled, toxic, narcissistic, and a user.

Yolanda and Williams or whatever he now calls himself: Why didn't the real story as mentioned in the Couples thread come out? Very tame catfish and not worthy of the 15 weeks of coverage. Yolanda is an idiot and she should not be on social media until she takes a few courses on how to navigate the Internet. Most people would delete a catfish within a day or two.

Darcey and Tom: Tom, you are not the man you claim to be. Your reality 'fame' has turned you into an even uglier, fake man. Darcey may have her issues, but she seems to genuinely be a nice person who has a good heart. You played a lot of games with her, led her on, and used her up and spit her out to find the next blonde. No one cares about the revenge body. If you don't learn your lesson from the person you're with you will find a copy of that person til you do. That is so superficial to think that a pretty body will land someone. For a few minutes, sure. Tom, you treated Darcey badly and didn't care.

BGL and Usman: BGL got a good edit this evening and came across as mostly sane. Taking on Big Ed. She needed a better outfit and a bra that fit. The potty mouth sure came out. Not much of her and Usman - guess that is tomorrow.

[FrankieTankie]

Ed’s daughter is hot .... the real test that should be given is a  DNA to see if Creepy Ed is really her dad 

[Dobian]

2 hours ago, Adeejay said:

I don't believe Stephanie knows what the word "narcissist" means.  I am pretty sure if you were to look the word up in a dictionary, her picture would be right next to it.  Her two friends seemed drunk. They most certainly did not acquit themselves very well.  I apologize on behalf of all New Yorkers.

Stephanie is beyond narcissistic, she is a bona-fide sociopath.

[1011101010001]

48 minutes ago, kendi said:

Surprisingly, none of the 10-hour leak was on this Tell-All. The leaked 10-hours was Day Two. I'm very curious to see how Part 2 is edited.

The Yolanda stuff was in the leak. And the question about Ed taking the shower which was spliced in.

44 minutes ago, Colfrmb said:

@kendi, I never got a chance to see the 10 hour leak.  I was just going off what people reported here.  Maybe part 2 has more chaos and yelling.  Oh no, now I’m dreading watching but you know I will!

It’s a lot of David and a lot of BGL.

30 minutes ago, FrankieTankie said:

Ed’s daughter is hot .... the real test that should be given is a  DNA to see if Creepy Ed is really her dad 

She is even shorter than he is though.

[Adeejay]

38 minutes ago, FrankieTankie said:

Ed’s daughter is hot .... the real test that should be given is a  DNA to see if Creepy Ed is really her dad 

She is just as vile as he is, so, there’s no doubt. I have to admit that I was very disappointed with Avery. She seems like a smart lady. Can’t believe she sided with Ed and his crotch dropping against Rose. I am glad Darcey came to her defense. Say what you want about Darcey, but she is a good person with a big heart.

[futurechemist]

So just making sure my math is right.  On this part of the reunion, we had:

2 couples whose break up was so acrimonius they collapsed into shouting - Ed/Rose and Stephanie/Erika

1 couple who broke up before the show started filming - Darcey/Tom

1 couple who didn't exist - Yolanda

and 1 couple who were banned for the show due to criminal activity - Geoffrey/Varya

And next week we get 

1 couple who is some sort of bizarro catfish/escort- David/Lana

1 couple whose breakup might be relatively drama free - Avery/Ash

and 1 couple who actually got married - Lisa/Usman

Bonus points for some sort of 90 Day cross-pollination - Tom/Avery

I mean, if before the season aired you told me that Lisa and Usman would have been the most genuine and sensible couple, I would have spit out whatever I was drinking.  Though admittedly that is a very low bar to clear.

 

Edited June 8, 2020 by futurechemist

[The Goon]

51 minutes ago, Dobian said:

Stephanie is beyond narcissistic, she is a bona-fide sociopath.

She a definite head case. I don't get the whole "conservative,celibate" thing. If you check out her onlyfans vids they are basically mild hard core porn so If you dare, google search her as "stepanka nude" (that's her real name) and don't say I didn't warn you. There are some eye opening ones. finger probing and such.

[magemaud]

48 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

It’s a lot of David and a lot of BGL.

They’re all that’s left for the last hour. All the other couples have uncoupled 

[magemaud]

For some reason all I can think think is when “I Dream of Jeannie” was lounging inside her bottle. 

[Christina]

1 hour ago, futurechemist said:

And next week we get

Not next week, tomorrow starting at 8:00 pm EST

[Dobian]

1 hour ago, magemaud said:

For some reason all I can think think is when “I Dream of Jeannie” was lounging inside her bottle. 

Except I would take Barbara Eden over her in a minute.

[Texasmom1970]

Love how Darcey always puts herself together, no matter what she is doing. That being said with her tan skin her hair color was too blonde. It was jarring.

Ed is still greasy, Tom still an ass, Steph still trying to play the victim.

[Trackdawg]

4 hours ago, kendi said:

Surprisingly, none of the 10-hour leak was on this Tell-All. The leaked 10-hours was Day Two. I'm very curious to see how Part 2 is edited.

[Trackdawg]

6 hours ago, deirdra said:

Has Tom put on weight?

5 hours ago, sasha206 said:

Every one of her reunion shows, I always think that Darcy is a very sweet person.  And as ridiculous as she can be, that I like her.

[Trackdawg]

5 hours ago, Safadao said:

I agree with everyone who thinks Rose is a scammer. Ed is a scumbag as well. Maybe they were perfect for each other 

[Trackdawg]

On 6/7/2020 at 9:18 PM, Colfrmb said:

And the Emmy goes to the editors of reunion part one for taking a 10 hour poop show and boiling it down to a nearly sane, rational and intriguing  show!  I bet you went through a lot of bottles of booze and aspirin to get to the end.  I’m really impressed.

Edited June 11, 2020 by Trackdawg
Bro can lynx

[Trackdawg]

4 hours ago, Dobian said:

Stephanie is beyond narcissistic, she is a bona-fide sociopath.

[SabineElisabeth]

So to recap, Avery announced to Ash that she needed  yet another break from him to "clear her head" regarding just how inferior to her in every way Ash is the many complications inherent in Ash moving to the U.S..  Fully expecting him to sit around pining away for her, as usual, Avery was clearly stunned that instead, Ash called their relationship off for good.  And when she was trying to explain exactly what had gone wrong for her between them, she ended up sounding inarticulate, petty, and bitter... which was really not a good look on her.

Edited June 8, 2020 by SabineElisabeth

[Trackdawg]

9 hours ago, sasha206 said:

Actually I don't think he was ripe for the picking.  He's fucking cheap!  

That's true!  I doubt a lot of them would break bad for fear they'd get their ass kicked!  

Edited June 8, 2020 by Trackdawg
Size Matters

[Trackdawg]

7 hours ago, Adeejay said:

I was shocked to hear Stephanie say she was a stripper. I don’t know much about strip clubs, but I can imagine that they are filled with germs. I wonder how she managed, what with her being so sick. And, if memory serves, she was extremely angry when Erika took her to have her breasts encased in plaster.  Miserable, effing hypocrite. 

Edited June 8, 2020 by Trackdawg
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