Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[MsMalin]

7 hours ago, boes said:

What's with all the ponderous b.s. about Daniel's life-changing video game?  It's a v.i.d.e.o game, not a super strength dose of cialis or senakot.  Those, I hear, can be life-changing.  Why on EARTH do Lily and Devon buy in to this crap at all, much less buy a pitch from a guy whose never done anything remotely like it?  A guy who then hires his Mom to head up his team, a woman whose grasp on reality has not only always been pretty loose, but also one whose last creative idea was finding a way to change his paternity test so she could marry a cheesehead rockstar?

You're killing me here

[MollyB]

8 hours ago, boes said:

They were never close again after than, while he was in town. 

That's what I was screaming at the tv!  He specifically left to get away from her manipulations and protect himself and his family and he has had no contact with her since. Something is not right with that boy.

Why, why, why would he need her on his team?!  What does she bring to the table?  He says he has great coders on board and he's got the vision and so now he needs an administrator/coordinator/overlord?  What the f*ck can Phylth administrate?  She just spent the last year/months/whatever at Marchetti doing zip whilst planning the removal of Diane with the other witches.  Is she going to have to leave the office to meet with the Witches when they go into Run Sally Out of Town mode?

Small rant:  I'm big on set decoration and continuity.  I don't want to see a rolex on a caveman.  So watching the official acceptance of Danny's project at Society had me zeroed in on the table and specifically the drinks.  (Which were a Cranberry Bog Tea, Christmas Sangria and Holiday Snowflake in Black Stemware.)  No one was drinking.  The levels never changed.  They did not even toast when Danny was over the moon.  They did not drink while grilling Danny about who he was hiring.  Nor were there any sips while Danny stuttered over why he couldn't hire anyone until he had confirmation of money, etc.  While he is doing that there is a cut to commercial and then right back to continue his explanation and bam! all the drinks are done.  Even the fucking cranberries.  Get it together Continuity.

ok. not so small rant.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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This is exactly how entitled Phyllis was when she ignored Daniel's wishes, invalidated Lucy's adoption by Billy and Victoria and then forced his rapist baby on him to raise.  It looks like it all turned out okay for Daniel and Lucy, but Phyllis forgets - if she ever knew - that one of the motivators for Daniel leaving GC was the crap Phyllis pulled on him.  They were never close again after than, while he was in town.  She's been an undependable wild card in his life since he was a baby and was always just fine with upsetting his life to suit hers, so I don't understand why Daniel would choose to hire her now.   Phyllis is exactly as toxic and nuts as she was the day he left.

Yep, yep, yep. However, the show signaled a while back that Phyllis and Daniel had reached some kind of rapprochement because she went down to GA to visit him, Lucy, and Heather. Still though, he knows what a wild card she is so it doesn't make sense that he'd hire her to be such an important part of this new project of his. It'll be interesting to see Lily and Devon's reaction when they find out Phyllis will be involved. I can't imagine they'd want to be dealing with her.

[Snaporaz]

22 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

Billy isn't even entertaining in his jackassery. We all saw the situation. Adam comes literally bearing gifts for his son and makes no snide comments towards him and in fact apologizes for interrupting with little implied sarcasm and in fact seemed less mopey and more cautious and civil. And yet Billy complains to Lily that Adam came 'Oooozing misery' and he isn't good for Chelsea. Is he for real? YOU CAN'T CUT ADAM OUT OF CHELSEA'S LIFE YOU IDIOT. HE'S HER BABY'S DADDY! Sir, just try it and Adam, Connor, AND Victor will be on your ass. And you don't want Victor on your ass again.

Exactly this!  Adam shows up in an upbeat mood, armed with gifts and holiday spirit, working with Chelsea to make plans for Christmas, giving her something to look forward to.  Where was the problem here?  Billy really needs to check himself. It doesn't matter that they are divorced, Adam will always be Chelsea's family, whether sad-sack bozo Billy likes it or not.  And whatever Adam and Chelsea have put each other through, Adam never publicly humiliated Chelsea by calling her a slut as she stood at the altar waiting to marry him, so STFU. 

Daniel is the one who took charge of Phyllis' care when she was in her coma, so I think they've had a truce for a while.  Unless....that clinic he found in Georgia was *keeping* her in the coma!  It was the experimental treatment of Victor's specialist that snapped her out of it, after all.          

[MsMalin]

Billy has no self awareness. Sometimes I will be ready to say something negative and then stop because I realize it's inappropriate or petty and will just bring down the mood or make me look like a jackass.

I don't buy that what is causing his actions is the death of Delia anymore. Its more than that. Its his hero complex or just plain jealousy.

[babyhouseman]

15 hours ago, boes said:

she could marry a cheesehead rockstar?

I don't know anything about videogames, but maybe Daniel, Phyllis, and Danny will have some kind of rock on videogame. Or can there be a videogame where you try to change the paternity results. 

[One Tough Cookie]

3 hours ago, babyhouseman said:

. Or can there be a videogame where you try to change the paternity results. 

Of only life imitated art........

[Chatty Cake]

Yaas honey, we’re getting a Romalatti  Christmas 🎄!

[Kemper]

Many on this Board think that Daniel may be up to something shady. Maybe that is the reason he picked his mother; he knows her ethics are almost non-existent. 

[Chatty Cake]

Billy and Chelsea chilling on her couch is creepy as can be. Did he and Lily break up?

[PatsyandEddie]

Not yet Chatty Cake. Give Lily about five more minutes. 

[Chatty Cake]

23 hours ago, MollyB said:

That's what I was screaming at the tv!  He specifically left to get away from her manipulations and protect himself and his family and he has had no contact with her since. Something is not right with that boy.

Why, why, why would he need her on his team?!  What does she bring to the table?  He says he has great coders on board and he's got the vision and so now he needs an administrator/coordinator/overlord?  What the f*ck can Phylth administrate?  She just spent the last year/months/whatever at Marchetti doing zip whilst planning the removal of Diane with the other witches.  Is she going to have to leave the office to meet with the Witches when they go into Run Sally Out of Town mode?

Small rant:  I'm big on set decoration and continuity.  I don't want to see a rolex on a caveman.  So watching the official acceptance of Danny's project at Society had me zeroed in on the table and specifically the drinks.  (Which were a Cranberry Bog Tea, Christmas Sangria and Holiday Snowflake in Black Stemware.)  No one was drinking.  The levels never changed.  They did not even toast when Danny was over the moon.  They did not drink while grilling Danny about who he was hiring.  Nor were there any sips while Danny stuttered over why he couldn't hire anyone until he had confirmation of money, etc.  While he is doing that there is a cut to commercial and then right back to continue his explanation and bam! all the drinks are done.  Even the fucking cranberries.  Get it together Continuity.

ok. not so small rant.

I noticed the drinks too. They were too distracting. It’s better when they do martinis which is easy to fake and the actors can take a drink from them.

[CountryGirl]

On 12/15/2022 at 1:05 PM, TVForever said:

Okay, Im calling out to the Y&R Historians:

Nikki dragging Sally to Nick today (again!) about faking a terminal illness in the past, blah, blah…

Am I misremembering this, or didn’t Nikki do the EXACT SAME THING several years back, during round #387 of the Nikki/Victor/Ashley triangle? I keep waiting for a character to say this to her, but it’s not happening, so now I’m wondering…
 

Please feel free to remind me what the actual situation was if my memory isn’t serving me well

 Catching up so someone may have answered but yes. Now, Nikki did think she was dying from the get go and I can’t remember if Sally initially thought she was, too, but Nikki’s faking dying was more memorable. Nikki found out that she wasn’t dying and rushed home to tell Victor the good news (he had left Ashley to reconcile with Nikki in her time of need. She spotted him with Ashley, unbeknownst to them, and it was clear they were still very much in love. So she chose not to tell him in revenge and was laying it on thick with makeup and fake fainting and even hilariously having him help her pick out her casket with fabrics draped all over the couch and everything. TL; DR: Nikki has zero leg to stand on with the faking death shenanigans nor does Victor who is up there with DOOL’s Stefano and other Salem denizens for returns from the dead. 

[SweePea59]

18 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Yaas honey, we’re getting a Romalatti  Christmas 🎄!

Do you think Danny will sing? I'd love to hear him sing, "Last Christmas".

Edited December 18, 2022 by SweePea59

[One Tough Cookie]

On 12/16/2022 at 6:00 PM, NinjaPenguins said:

Never send a Bouffant to do a Swoosh’s job

You are KILLING me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tricknasty]

The elephant in the room is as nauseous as I am at Sally and Nick.

[NinjaPenguins]

To be both repellent and boring at the same time is just the kind of achievement Nick stumbles ass backward into with an effortless, charmless grace. Sally is giving it her all to sell this shit sandwich of a pairing like it’s a prime rib dinner with her happy clappy talk about being in a good place with NO DRAMA. Unfortunately, I still see poop squished between two slices of banana bread. Nick and Sally should take it so slow they end up in reverse.

Speaking of repellent, I see we were meant to endure yet another banal day in the life of Chelsea Lawson. All that was missing was an extended scene of Chloe and Chelz chatting about the weather. Lol@ Chloe admitting she pulled some heinous shit and trying to apologize for it and Chelsea being all “no, no, this is my apology tour, biatch! It’s all about meeeee.”

Not a good day (for me anyway) when I find myself nodding along with Victor as he mumbles something sensible. Adam, you big dummy, it doesn’t matter if Chelsea intended to upset everyone’s apple cart or not. Intent is not magic. Do you really need to inflict her on Johnny the first Christmas after she dropped her truth bomb on him? Boundaries, man. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

Oh, Sally. Why are you wasting what you've got on Nick? Whhhyyy?

I'm with Tessa, the tree topper Mariah chose was not festive. It looked like pewter.

Faith chose to go to Europe instead of coming back to GC. Hmm. And what's the big deal about celebrating Christmas in Switzerland? She could do that anyway. Grandpa Victor probably has a chalet at the Newman family's disposal.

More of Chelsea's neverending apology tour. Yawn. Who's left, Lauren?

Lol, Victor was looking at Adam like he'd sprung a second head. You'd think being allowed to attend the holiday dinner at Newman ranch was akin to having an audience with the king at Buckingham Palace.

Sharon warned Chelsea it was dark outside. Is Chelsea not supposed to go out at night by herself?

Sally, turnabout is fair play. You might want to know what Nick's capable of too. Him and his family would make a dossier big enough to rival a set of encyclopedias.

"Ambiguous"? I don't think that's a synonym for "hypocritical." If anything, the GC people who've given Sally the most grief = unambiguous hypocrites IMO.

Wait until Billy finds out how much time Adam and Chelsea have been spending together. He'll lose what's left of his mind.

[MsMalin]

1 hour ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Nick and Sally should take it so slow they end up in reverse.

Thanks for that. I was wondering how they could take it slow when they've already had sex several times.

From the sound of it I guess I'm lucky the show was preempted by the hearings.

Edited December 20, 2022 by MsMalin

[One Tough Cookie]

On 12/18/2022 at 11:00 AM, Chatty Cake said:

noticed the drinks too. They were too distracting. It’s better when they do martinis which is easy to fake and the actors can take a drink from the

It is my opinion that people that in that fragile state of mind   have no business drinking until they are in a more stable place .

[adore]

4 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Oh, Sally. Why are you wasting what you've got on Nick? Whhhyyy?

I'm with Tessa, the tree topper Mariah chose was not festive. It looked like pewter.

Faith chose to go to Europe instead of coming back to GC. Hmm. And what's the big deal about celebrating Christmas in Switzerland? She could do that anyway. Grandpa Victor probably has a chalet at the Newman family's disposal.

More of Chelsea's neverending apology tour. Yawn. Who's left, Lauren?

Lol, Victor was looking at Adam like he'd sprung a second head. You'd think being allowed to attend the holiday dinner at Newman ranch was akin to having an audience with the king at Buckingham Palace.

Sharon warned Chelsea it was dark outside. Is Chelsea not supposed to go out at night by herself?

Sally, turnabout is fair play. You might want to know what Nick's capable of too. Him and his family would make a dossier big enough to rival a set of encyclopedias.

"Ambiguous"? I don't think that's a synonym for "hypocritical." If anything, the GC people who've given Sally the most grief = unambiguous hypocrites IMO.

Wait until Billy finds out how much time Adam and Chelsea have been spending together. He'll lose what's left of his mind.

Contrite, demure Chelsea is so boring. I thought the writers would do better at delivering  a compelling story of depression and suicidal ideation, but instead we have … this. Unlock the doors and unscrew the shampoo bottles! 

[boes]

Did you fellow preverts know that Chelsea and Chloe are friends?  Did you know that they are best friends?  Is it imprinted on our brains after hearing it 2745 times just today?!?  We've been told ad nauseum about their amazing friendship, their bestieship, their amazing bond, FOR YEARS already.  But, I guess Show just needed to drive that home again, like a nail in my brain.

Chelsea is milking her maybe suicide as if she's won an award and is practicing her acceptance speech for the upcoming ceremony.  I was almost surprised that Sharon didn't scoop Chelsea up in her arms and take her for the walk Chelz said she needed to lessen the strain on the poor, passive aggressive dear.  I suppose her therapist said that the best cure for suicidal depression is to always make sure you're the center of attention.

I was a bit depressed myself when Chelsea didn't end up on the rooftop after she left Crimson Lights.  I was hoping for a real Christmas miracle.

Adam, Adam, Adam.  Does he not realize that wanting to attend the Newman Christmas gathering is a clear cry for help?  Nobody with any reason to live would willingly choose to attend an event where the highlight is Victor re-telling his orphanage story from beginning to end.  God Help Us, Everyone.

Sorry Show, but no matter how hard you try to sell Nick and Sally, I'm not buying it.  I'd have less trouble believing Sally promoting a commercial about adult diapers.  Though, come to think of it, NICK would be a perfect spokesman for that product.

I feel sorriest for the poor housekeeping staff who have to clean the room and change the linens after one of Nick and Sally's "Guess My Weight" romps.  I assume they have to treat everything as hazardous waste.  I don't care what cleaning products they use, there are some stains that never come out.  Febreze can only do so much.

Don't forget, folks, Chelsea and Chloe are best friends.  Don't make me say it again.

Edited December 20, 2022 by boes

[Chatty Cake]

Victor to Adam, “ why don’t you love us Newman’s?” Also Victor “Victoria is the most important of my children” 

Poor Mariah and Tessa. They got evicted and I don’t believe that they live in the tack house. I think they are homeless. All so Chelsea can host asshole after asshole and apologize to them for being an asshole.

[Js Nana]

Did my eyes deceive me, or was Sharon furiously flirting with Tucker, her ex-lover, on today's show?

[Kemper]

6 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

Did my eyes deceive me, or was Sharon furiously flirting with Tucker, her ex-lover, on today's show?

Yes she was! And seemed to be the most relaxed and un-zombie-like she has been in months.  Hair tossing, eyes sparkling, genuine smile. He seemed to be lighter somehow, too. I don’t remember much about the first Tucker’s time on the show…was she married then?

[TobinAlbers]

34 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

Did my eyes deceive me, or was Sharon furiously flirting with Tucker, her ex-lover, on today's show?

Loved every moment of it. Most alive we've seen her in months and it was about her and his history and her not propping other people/couples.  Would love if they had regular 'therapy' sessions where they become snarky friends- or more after an appropriate mourning period for Sharon. Ashley and Nick would flip!

[SweePea59]

35 minutes ago, Kemper said:

I don’t remember much about the first Tucker’s time on the show…

This one is the 3rd Tucker. The first Tucker was great. The second one was a real schmucker. And this third one is pretty damn creepy, especially today with emotionless whatshername in the hotel room.

18 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Faith chose to go to Europe instead of coming back to GC. Hmm.

I guess she won't be having her "traditional" peppermint tea with her mother. Remember one year they sprang that on us claiming it was a tradition although we never saw or heard about it before, or again.

Edited December 20, 2022 by SweePea59

[Julyolo]

IMO today was Yawnsville except for when Ashley nearly caught Tucker with Audra. I can hardly wait until the super sanctimonious Ashley finds out she isn't the player she fancies herself to be. Billy drooling over finding an excuse to dial up Project Chelsea was off-putting. I have been wondering lately if the show might not get rid of Billy with a plot twist of him successfully suiciding. He has no job, no plans for his future. His relationship with Lily is over. He has never accepted the death of his daughter. He had such a bad reaction when Lily said they needed counseling, strange that Chelsea's mental health would be a more immediate concern than his own. Maybe he has been using Chelsea's situation as camouflage over his own need for help. Also, it sucked that he couldn't wait to go shopping with Johnny for Chelsea and Connor. Wouldn't Johnny also need to be getting gifts for Lily and Victoria as well?

3 minutes ago, Julyolo said:

Sorry, new site problems

 

Edited December 20, 2022 by Julyolo

[Js Nana]

One thing I really liked about tnoday's show was Ashley calling Jack out about Diane.  I swear, if Diane shot a puppy with a shot gun, all she'd have to do to get Jack to take her side would be to give him that look of wide-eyed innocence and claim she hadn't know the gun was loaded and that she's a changed person and she'll never, ever shoot another puppy again - - and about poor Diane missing all those Christmas' with her son, when it was she who pulled a self-serving disappearing act and left her son to spend every Christnmas believing his mother was dead!!!

[Desperado]

I wasn’t watching when they were involved, but I am here for a flirty, happy Sharon and really liked her and Tucker today. Both actors seemed to enjoy themselves and TSJ even smiled for real and looked very good doing it… then he had sex scenes with the Audra character and… nothing.

I did enjoy the “what is your end game” speech though, because I want to know too.

[Waldo13]

It’s amazing how fast Natey Nate Nate how fast he’s become a man among men when he hasn’t done anything more than what Sally has done so far. 

Cruella Cruella Cruella, it’s the holiday season. Like your father there is no peace on earth and goodwill towards men. So what if Chelsea gives Johnny a present.  It’s not like it will make Johnny feel any less of Cruella.  The gut punches for Cruella is Johnny wanting to spend time with Connor and Chelsea and Johnny wanting to buy a present for Chelsea. At first Cruella turned 🤢 than her face faded to sheet white. 

Who appoint Ashley Jack’s and Kyle’s guardian angel. Did she think about Jack’s well being when she took the patents and ran to Paris?  Did she think about Jack when she tried to take over Jabot?  Was Ashley this adamant about saving Jack from Copperhead.  Is thinking about leaving Jack to go with Tucker to Jack’s benefit?  

If Ashley catches Tucker with Audra it wouldn’t matter because nothing is more important that protecting Jack from She Devil, Diane. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

"Unholy trinity." Good one, Jack. Ashley and her cohorts are Satan in three persons for sure.

Sharon must've bought a new bra because her breastesses were unusually perky today. And yeah, she really, really seemed to want Tucker to notice. Really. 🙀

Yikes, Victoria's blowout. I'm thinking she ought to get those scraggly ends trimmed.

So Billy's taken an unpaid position to serve as Chelsea's advocate. Guess he didn't learn his lesson from the first Johnny & Chelsea debacle.

Audra seemed rather animated today too, with a lot of extra hand movements. It was like Nate was an orchestra and she was conducting him.

If ever there was a time Ashley needed a good punch in the neck...She's figured out Kyle and Jack have Diane hidden somewhere. Now she'll likely share that knowledge with the coven.

Weird outfit on Ashley. I don't think the top worked with the pants because the textures were too disparate. And she really needed some support in the boobular area because her girls were hella droopy.

Geez, Nate loves getting in people's business. Audra is a corporate shark and if she went to work for him at NM she'd eat him alive. Looked to me like she had to restrain herself from laughing in his face at how clueless he is.

I liked Elena's suede stiletto booties.

Tucker and Audra are starting to skeeve me out. She says she might be thinking about going her own way and he's like, "Nah, my peen says otherwise." Is Audra d!ckmatized? And if Tucker's so in love with Ashley why is he screwing another woman?

Victoria saw how Billy deftly manipulated Johnny toward Chelsea. IMO she needs to drop the hammer on him, soon. Billy is mainly using Johnny to score points with Chelsea and that's not appropriate.

[MsMalin]

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Weird outfit on Ashley. I don't think the top worked with the pants because the textures were too disparate.

That outfit was an abomination. 

Both Billy and Victoria will go wild when they find out Adam is inviting Chelsea and Connor for a Very Newman Christmas.

 

[Jaded]

9 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

 The first Tucker was great.

I remember when he first appeared on screen I wasn't really following the show's BTS news closely at the time. Imagine my surprise when I saw the Dad from Boy Meets World playing the exact opposite of that character...😆

Stephen Nichols was a miscast as Tucker. Luckily he wasn't the worst miscast ever so it wasn't a total disaster. I did enjoy seeing him in a role again where he wasn't forced to wear that damn patch.

Edited December 21, 2022 by Jaded

[Sake614]

Well I tried, really I did. But I just can’t with TSJ. There is nothing sexy about him. Nothing. Nada. Zip. And I’m not buying him as some corporate raider either. The best I can say is he’s not awful. But please no scenes of him trying to seduce Audra. Or anyone else. 

[Snaporaz]

8 hours ago, Kemper said:

Yes she was! And seemed to be the most relaxed and un-zombie-like she has been in months.  Hair tossing, eyes sparkling, genuine smile. He seemed to be lighter somehow, too. I don’t remember much about the first Tucker’s time on the show…was she married then?

I think this was the time Sharon was briefly married to Victor (the time everybody wishes they could forget!), and amnesiac Victor went missing and ended up working on the docks in Los Angeles. That was when Tucker worked the angles to get Sharon named CEO at NE.

Unless I missed a big adoption story, Summer is not Harrison's mother.  How can Tara still be in prison for some minor white collar crime?

[JNavarro]

Not that we're covering new ground here, but wow Billy and Chelsea are disgusting.  Of course they'll play the "leave it Johnny" angle now.  The damage has been done.  Chelsea already forced all the ugly details on her pre teen son, knowing full well he'd tell Johnny and elicit sympathy.  

I don't like Victoria for a million things but man I suddenly switch to her side when it comes to the Chelsea stuff.   She's absolutely right.  

 

[boes]

15 hours ago, JNavarro said:

I don't like Victoria for a million things but man I suddenly switch to her side when it comes to the Chelsea stuff.   She's absolutely right.  

I'm with you.  Victoria is hardly my favorite person, but today she was face to face with steamroller delusional ButtBiscuit, the guy who trashed her life more than once.  She's recognizing all the symptoms, that was apparent from the way she was looking at him.  I expect a Victoria/Lily conversation very soon.

Every woman he's ever been involved with has made the same mistake.  He needs to be kenneled and never allowed to roam free.  If he isn't kenneled, then he should be confined to one room with plenty of newspapers on the floor.  He should also NEVER be allowed off leash.  It might be too late, but perhaps he could still be distracted by a chewy toy, though I doubt it.

This is what happens when you don't train them early.  That's on you, Jill.

Think how nice it would be if the writers actually looked at what each of them wrote.  If they did, we wouldn't get a scene like we had today between Ashley and Jack.  Ashley's back to being completely unrepentent about ganging up with Beowolf and Grendel when last week she was very clear she'd thought they went too far.  She also felt bad about how all this was affecting Bouffant Boy and Lil' Hassenpheffer.  Today, she was much more interested in sticking it to Jackie than being a bit reasonable about what was going on.  That's Ashley, though, to a tee.  When it comes to Jack, it's never too long before they're at each other's throats.  It's also never very long before she's happily ganging up with outsiders against her brother.

She's going to partner with Tucker and she's going to regret it.  I can't wait.

Diane whines with the best of them, and she's done some incredibly shitty things, no argument.  But she's an Olympic silver medal holder at best, compared to Phyllis, Nikki and Ashley, who have bringing home the gold in petty ugliness for quite some time.

I almost forgot!  Nate Natey Nate Nate Giant empty-brained gasbag of a man, Nate.  His head is so big I'm sure he's going to be a balloon in the next Macy's Thanksgiving Parade.  So, according to him, "everybody" in the L.A. office was just THRILLED to meet him, just wowed by his ideas and think he's the smartest guy in shoe leather.  What an idiot.  Newman Media folks have been through how many CEO's by now?  They're just shining on the latest Big Boss because they know another one will be by in 15 minutes.

Thank God this guy got out of medicine.  He's nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is, and he thinks is Brainiac.  

Tell us again how they all lubbed you, Oh Nate of my Heart.

I know it won't happen, but I wish wish wish somebody would tie his shoe laces together or put a urinal cake in his underwear drawer.  Come ON, Show, please??  Please prank the big head for us, we all could use a laugh.

Edited December 21, 2022 by boes

[gingerella]

Dear Show,

Fuck MoP. Fuck Billy. Double fuck Chelsea. Fuch Syph. Fuck Mopey Noah. Fuck Audra. Fuck Jack. Fuck Drinkki. Triple fuck Peepaw. Fuck Natey Nate Nate. Quadruple fuck Darvon. I could go on but you get the idea. This show currently has no redeeming characters to watch. None. Nada. Null. Zip. Zilch. Zero. The Empty Set.

Hatefully Yours,

Gingerella

Edited December 21, 2022 by gingerella

[MsMalin]

^ Now THAT'S what they call a clusterfuck!

[Chatty Cake]

Why should Chelsea have anything to do with Johnny? She raped his dad and is a con artist and an unstable one at that. He can be polite when he sees the asshole bit there is no reason for him to have to see her. He doesn’t need to be a part of her stupid amends. Why are they shoving this shit show at us?

[luna1122again]

14 hours ago, Desperado said:

I wasn’t watching when they were involved, but I am here for a flirty, happy Sharon and really liked her and Tucker today. Both actors seemed to enjoy themselves and TSJ even smiled for real and looked very good doing it… then he had sex scenes with the Audra character and… nothing.

I did enjoy the “what is your end game” speech though, because I want to know too.

I would really love to see Sharon and Tucker together. They had insta-chemistry, and yeah, they were both more alive and twinkly/flirty with one another than anyone else we've seen them with so far. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Unless I missed a big adoption story, Summer is not Harrison's mother.  How can Tara still be in prison for some minor white collar crime?

Right? I don't like how the show is trying to erase Tara by letting Summer keep declaring she's Harrison's mother. She can't adopt him as long as Tara is alive and hasn't agreed to give up her parental rights to her son. Why would Tara do that? This is a weird way of trying to prop Summer at the expense of the viewers who are wondering why Tara isn't out of prison by now and hasn't reclaimed her child.

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Why should Chelsea have anything to do with Johnny? She raped his dad and is a con artist and an unstable one at that. He can be polite when he sees the asshole bit there is no reason for him to have to see her. He doesn’t need to be a part of her stupid amends. Why are they shoving this shit show at us?

Yes, it's appalling. Imagine if the situation were reversed and Billy was the one who drugged and raped Chelsea. I don't think the show could get away with having Billy demand Johnny be told he's his father. Certainly not unless it was fully explained to Johnny how his conception occurred. That part of the story is oddly missing from what Chelsea and Billy want Johnny to know and IMO it's a key factor.

[MollyB]

16 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

She's figured out Kyle and Jack have Diane hidden somewhere. Now she'll likely share that knowledge with the coven.

Well, the cabin is probably the dumbest place to stash her.  When the three hags hash this new theory of Assley's over, it won't take them to long to zero in on the cabin and share that info with Tucker or Jeremy.  They'll all caravan up in their SUVs and chase Diane out into the snow-where she will be turned into a popsicle a la Brad.  The Christmas Miracle will be the Coven falling through the ice, too, when they stand around admiring their work.

Second dumbest idea is Summer wanting to take Harrison to the cabin to share Christmas with Granny DeDe.  Yes, Summer, it's really sad that Kyle won't be able to have the Norman Rockwell Christmas you all want and so desperately need but try to see the bigger picture.  Kids talk about what they do.  And Assley is already suspicious.  What is this obsession with Kyle having this Christmas with his Mom?  I think he'll survive.  What entitled aholes.

16 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I liked Elena's suede stiletto booties.

No wonder she's tired.  My feet hurt just looking at them.  I also don't want someone treating me if I wind up in her ER who wrapped up her podcast in the wee hours, then worked a busy ER shift and then covered for someone else and then, instead of getting some much needed sleep, powers up with a jolt of caffeine to go party.  Nate's blow off when she shows up to celebrate his trip to LA (?!) should have been enough for her to go back to bed-alone.  I've divorced for less.

 

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

That part of the story is oddly missing from what Chelsea and Billy want Johnny to know and IMO it's a key factor.

And we all know that it will be revealed eventually.  Right about the time Johnny has bonded with his brother and mom and begun to trust everyone.  Nothing good will come of this.

[MsMalin]

4 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Why should Chelsea have anything to do with Johnny? She raped his dad 

yeah but last week Billy said it was fun.😵😱😠

[TVForever]

15 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

 

Unless I missed a big adoption story, Summer is not Harrison's mother.  How can Tara still be in prison for some minor white collar crime?

 

5 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Right? I don't like how the show is trying to erase Tara by letting Summer keep declaring she's Harrison's mother. She can't adopt him as long as Tara is alive and hasn't agreed to give up her parental rights to her son. Why would Tara do that? This is a weird way of trying to prop Summer at the expense of the viewers who are wondering why Tara isn't out of prison by now and hasn't reclaimed her child.

 

I'm actually lowkey offended everytime I hear Summer talk about "my/our son" as if the kid doesn't already have a mother who did not in any way give him up.

I guess we're supposed to forget she exists.

[MsMalin]

Noah must have gotten all F's in chemistry because he has absolutely none with Allie and I doubt he would have any with Audra. Why would Audra chase after Noah when she has side piece Tucker to satisfy her? I was almost crying I was so bored with the Noah scenes. Just the worst ever.

[Kemper]

I think Audra has been presented with a possible new love interest. Chance! I would normally be appalled by this but it is better than Sharon waiting in the wings. Chance is no fool, so who knows.

Honestly, between the Tucker/Audra quickies; and the horrible ick of Adam/Sally/Nick, I feel like viewers could use a shower. The writers have about ruined Sally for me. I don’t know how they can redeem her. Not the actress fault.

For once, I feel badly for Victoria. I loathe Billy for pushing his Chelsea obsession onto his ex-wife and child. He needs to have a huge, huge fall.

[Waldo13]

It seems the monkeys with a keyboard are hell bent on the idea if at first you don’t exceed try try again.  The bribery was an epic fail with Locke and now they are trying once again with Stark.  Now that Jack is taking Stark to see Diane, will Kyle go all Banana Breath on Stark?  

The only one that doesn’t blame themselves for bringing Stark to GC is Nikki. Well so far.  Like Copperhead, Ashley believes whole hardest, the means justifies the ends. 

Chance’s problem was always Abby because she’s a demanding self centered bitch.  Now, all of a sudden, Chance is worried about having family time with Bowie.  Sharon is looking for some me time with Chance but Audra may put a monkey wrench into her plans. 

 

[Gam2]

I really despise the way Sharon stutters her way through her lines. Well…..if you want……to talk to…..me, I do……have a BS……in Psychology. As if that would get her anywhere!

Also cannot stand Ashley, her attitude and especially her wardrobe. She can go back to Paris and stay there!!