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At 24 years old and over 600 lbs., Megan lives at home with her mom, who cooks for her since Megan can't do much on her own. Now Megan must travel to Houston to meet Dr. Now and change her eating habits or her life may end before it begins.

Mom is shoveling mass quantities of food and Megan is taking it all in.  What will the reason be for this dysfunction? 

This is the LIVE CHAT thread.  It will be open during the US East Coast and US West Coast showings.

Original air date 2020.04.01

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So, I muted the show at the top of the second hour to join a zoom meeting on a fun subject. I checked in on live chat a few times and looked up at the TV a few times. Am I correct that she didn't ever get the surgery? For a medical reason? She did manage to lose some weight over the 12 (?) months, though, didn't she? I hope someone will fill me in because TBH the first hour of this episode was deadly dull, and I'm unlikely to watch the second hour - unless I get severely squirrelly as this month of staying at home goes by. 

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12 hours ago, Jeeves said:

So, I muted the show at the top of the second hour to join a zoom meeting on a fun subject. I checked in on live chat a few times and looked up at the TV a few times. Am I correct that she didn't ever get the surgery? For a medical reason? She did manage to lose some weight over the 12 (?) months, though, didn't she? I hope someone will fill me in because TBH the first hour of this episode was deadly dull, and I'm unlikely to watch the second hour - unless I get severely squirrelly as this month of staying at home goes by. 

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No surgery, they did some tests and she has gallbladder issues, he said something about a blocked bile duct, he was talking about scheduling an endoscopy(?) to see exactly what was going on. That was at about 9:54. She did lose some weight but I don't remember how much total. Also her medication count went from 8 at the beginning to 12 toward the end.

I want to say something positive. She has a very cute doggie. That's all I got.

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Mom is liable to catch some flies the way she sits with her mouth gaping open, especially when gazing up at Dr. Now. Maybe she is awestruck. 

What a couple of blaaaaaaah people. 

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I'm re-watching this now after, thank God, primarily watching The Masked Singer and missing most of the original airing. I'm at her first weigh-in after being "allegedly" on the diet and "working hard." He gave her an 80 pound weight loss goal and she only lost 14. So weird that she saw that as okay and her mom said she did good.

Although she was polite to Dr. Now and not a verbally abusive asshole like so many poundticipants, she was so absolutely frustrating to watch, mouthing the right words but never seeming to grasp how dire her physical condition was for someone so young--12 medications a day, high blood pressure, blood clots. Did they ever mention what other medical issues she had? 

Seeing her also reminded me why the mortality rate of the M600PL subjects is so low: modern medicine. Those like James K, Schenee, Steven Assanti (who was also a pill popping druggie) and so many others are still alive. If this was 60, 70, 80 years ago most if not all of these folks would be dead, probably well before they reached 600 pounds.

Hahaha, took so long to write this while trying to watch this episode AND switching over to CNN's COVID-19 coverage that I just saw her second weigh-in and she only lost 32 pounds in FOUR MONTHS! Sigh.

I wish her well but I'm not very hopeful.

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3 hours ago, Jeeves said:

So, I muted the show at the top of the second hour to join a zoom meeting on a fun subject. I checked in on live chat a few times and looked up at the TV a few times. Am I correct that she didn't ever get the surgery? For a medical reason? She did manage to lose some weight over the 12 (?) months, though, didn't she? I hope someone will fill me in because TBH the first hour of this episode was deadly dull, and I'm unlikely to watch the second hour - unless I get severely squirrelly as this month of staying at home goes by. 

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Hi @Jeeves. I re-watched this episode since I missed most of it the first time around. Her starting weight was 604 pounds and she ended up losing 124 pounds over a 12 month period, ending up at 492 pounds. She did not get the surgery because, after running some tests, Dr. Now surmised that she was still too unhealthy to have it. She had gall bladder issues and there was also discussion about some problem with one of  her lungs; not sure what exactly that was since Dr. Now went all mumbly as he has done recently and it wasn't clear to me what that was all about.

Interesting that Dr. Now told her that he was proud of her and gave her a goal of losing just 30 pounds in two munts; she lost 29. He of course scolded her for not ever even coming near her monthly goals except the last one but was rather gentle, even fatherly with her when doing so. I really do believe that he wants the best for his patients and is deeply affected when they fail, or worse, die. He wanted to monitor her health for the next four to six months and told her that she must keep losing weight to stay on track for weight loss surgery.

When she left his office she muttered something about being disappointed and that all her "hard work" had been for nothing, that she hoped to get the surgery so that she could be done with having to control what she ate (paraphrasing). I just shook my head at that one since she will have to control the way she eats post surgery for the rest of her life. In other words, she was looking at WLS as the magic bullet.

Hope this helps.

 

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I've read some of the live chat, but was too late to join.
This was a snoozer, and I'm at the last scene, but I'd already read she doesn't get surgery.
Too, I was hoping to meet the wicked stepsisters.
There was filming starting, but they were called on it, and it stopped.

Hope everyone is staying well and distant.
And there's a thread for anything Corvid at 

 

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@DC Gal in VA, thanks for that super summary. I really appreciate it! @ams1001 also thanks for the info you posted.

So good that she managed to drop over a hundred pounds, and so sad that she was still looking at surgery as the magic cure that will take away her eating problems. 

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Megan's significant blood clotting issue along with her other medical problems may prevent WLS.  I was surprised Dr. Now or his staff didn't immediately address the gall bladder and bile duct issues. With stones, infection is always a possibility. Emergency surgery for someone using blood thinners is a horror show!

On a lighter note, the visit with dad was surreal. Hopefully he got the wings he was craving.

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They needed a nutritionist from the beginning. But the mom was one of the worst saboteurs we've ever seen and that's saying something.  She was co-dependent and wanted to feel like the skinny one and be able to overeat and blame her daughter. 

They really didn't know that a 5 pound slab of bacon doesn't go on a salad with shredded cheese and a half bottle of creamy dressing? I think the mom did know that was not on the diet but want to sabotage Megan. When Dr. Now asked her about what her eating habit was, she said "I eat a lot of chef salads" and he should have pressed her on the ingredients of that. Also when she mentioned she eats a lot of cheese, he didn't press her on that. I don't think those bagged shredded Mexican cheese foods are allowed, at least not in the potions she was using. 

Then when she was trying to eat squash and the mom says "you are not gonna put brown sugar and butter on that?" oh fuck off you sabotaging bitch. So good on Megan making steady progress even while finding hidden bags of candy while cleaning.

Her body shape with all the fat in the front actually kept her mobile plus her youth. It was obvious she thought the surgery would stop her desire for food completely. At one point she said that. Near the end she said "Only 18 more pounds then I can be done with this watching what I eat". 

At the beginning I thought I would hate her, but she was polite and listened to Dr. Now. She seemed to have a good attitude. Maybe I set the bar low but she became likable to me. Her back story was not anything that would force you to get how she did. It's like she was born wanting to eat a lot.  Mean siblings? We've heard a lot worse. She was 300 pounds at age 11 when the divorce happened, so that had nothing to do with it.

Her health problems are really awful. As much as the mother goes on and on about how she doesn't want her daughter to die, she is a selfish piece of shit and if Megan dies it's her fault. 

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Looking at Live chat and loving the snark. My eating habit however, was a turkey hot dog yesterday and probably broth and oyster crackers today.

Watching morbidly obese people though...
 

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2 hours ago, winsomeone said:

The mother seemed so dull. And yet she said she was a pharmacy assistant? 

12 hours ago, Jeeves said:

I hope someone will fill me in because TBH the first hour of this episode was deadly dull, and I'm unlikely to watch the second hour - unless I get severely squirrelly as this month of staying at home goes by. 

Well, maybe we could do a memory exchange as I saw the last half but missed the first because of my eating habit.   I started to watch the first half and couldn't make it past the 3 minute mark before deciding I needed my beauty sleep.   The only thing I really wondered was where they were from---I am sure it was at the bottom of the screen at the beginning but I was multi-tasking and just listening.

As to the mother's being a pharmacy assistant-----I bet you one bacon topped salad that the mom only  worked as a cashier in the pharmacy dept.  She would be handing customers their bags of Rxs so that makes her an "assistant."

Both of these women are probably low average on the IQ scale. 

1 hour ago, calpurnia99 said:

Then when she was trying to eat squash and the mom says "you are not gonna put brown sugar and butter on that?" oh fuck off you sabotaging bitch. So good on Megan making steady progress even while finding hidden bags of candy while cleaning.

Was the mom hiding candy for herself and Megan found it?    About the squash with brown sugar and butter----I haven't tried that but I really like white squash pudding which if used as a side dish eliminates the need for a sweet dessert.  

https://www.realcajunrecipes.com/recipe/white-squash-pudding/

 

 

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Yes, not only was the mom ordering and eating fast food and junk food in front of her, she was hiding junk food and candy all over the house.  I think Megan was one of the first poundticipants we have ever seen actually clean her house, she kept finding hidden treats while cleaning up!

 

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35 minutes ago, nokat said:

No huge fupa or lymphadema? 
 

Yes to the fupa, no to the lymphedema. Her skin looked pretty good, too. 

Her parents were both to blame. Dad could have turned down her offer of pizza, etc. in the nursing home ( what kind of nursing home allows fast food delivery to a bedbound guy on oxygen?)

Megan herself seemed to hear what she wanted to hear, like a lot of these folks (ie, her obsession with her sodium intake). At least we didn't have to see her in the shower; also, she didn't have tattoos, piercings, heavy makeup or weird hair. However, she's probably doomed, due to her lack of support system (she didn't seem to have any friends or other relatives involved in her life).

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People in Live chat: the house looks clean. There is a ginormous walrus in there.


 

And you know she isn't picking up a mop or a vacuum.

Why do they have to do those low camera angles. We know they are fat.
 

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51 minutes ago, Twopper said:

The only thing I really wondered was where they were from---I am sure it was at the bottom of the screen at the beginning but I was multi-tasking and just listening.

Taylorville, IL.  Thirteen hour drive to Houston, accomplished in just two days, although they had allocated three.

Of course, they had to stop to get food at a drive-through before getting to the interstate.

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38 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

Taylorville, IL.  Thirteen hour drive to Houston, accomplished in just two days, although they had allocated three.

Of course, they had to stop to get food at a drive-through before getting to the interstate.

Well, in their defense Taylorville seems to be out in the boonies and according to the google app I just used it looks like it is  at least 25-30 miles from I-55 (which I use from time to time so I guess I should look for stuff I recognize once they hit the interstate )      so I can see that they both might work up a huge appetite before they get to the on ramp😂

 

3 hours ago, calpurnia99 said:

They needed a nutritionist from the beginning. But the mom was one of the worst saboteurs we've ever seen and that's saying something.  She was co-dependent and wanted to feel like the skinny one and be able to overeat and blame her daughter. 

I just saw bits and pieces of the show with Joe, and it is interesting to compare and contrast.  His epi was only an hour.  He got bypass instead of the sleeve.   Also his mother was obese, but there seemed to be no talk about her needing to get on the program as well. Also the narration was better written.   I think maybe this season Dr Now is really trying to get the family members to see how they help or hinder his patients.  Joe's mother seemed pretty passive instead of the passive-aggressive mother that Megan seems to have when it comes to meals.   Also a dietician came to Joe's apartment and showed him how to read labels. 

I am really trying to pay attention to our eating habit while we stay home.  I am not used to eating 3 meals a day at home.   I will probably end up on this show at the end of the shelter in place period because I have a compelling urge to bake cookies.  

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15 minutes ago, Twopper said:

Well, in their defense Taylorville seems to be out in the boonies and according to the google app I just used it looks like it is  at least 25-30 miles from I-55 (which I use from time to time so I guess I should look for stuff I recognize once they hit the interstate )      so I can see that they both might work up a huge appetite before they get to the on ramp😂

They would have stopped if they lived 50 feet from the on-ramp and there was a McDonalds between their house and the ramp.

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This is the first time too that we have seen a pounder buy a scale and use it to weigh themselves. I think the reason is the scales that weigh to 1000 pounds are super expensive. I think this family had more money than the usual pounder family. The outside of their Texas apartment didn't look like a prison. I guess I'll google how much they cost but I am thinking over $200.  

ETA: I found it! $395!  but a livestock scale that goes up to 700 pounds is $300. The 1000 scale on amazon is "sold out". I guess lots of people need them.  This mom thought it was worth spending $400 on this scale but then kept offering to fry up slabs of bacon and pushing for butter and brown sugar on veggies!

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Yes, Megan cleared her home of forbidden foods, but according to her own criteria of demon sodium.    Of course, after that she threw a pound of bacon, shredded cheese, and a bottle of dressing on her salad.     

Megan's earlier issues are she had a ton of DVT blood clots in her legs, that went to her lungs, and severely damaged one lung,  She eventually was on 12 medications for high blood pressure, blood thinners, and other issues she had, and she's only 24.    

I loathed the mother.   Sitting there with her mouth gaping open, starring at Dr. Now like he was her dream man.    I notice that was when he told her she needed to lose a lot too.    If mother or daughter think the Now family will ever be interested in them, they're even more delusional than they are about demon sodium. 

I can say that Megan, and her mother kept a clean house, but that's all.     I see zero chance that Mom will ever lose weight, or that Megan will maintain any kind of weight loss.    

I found it interesting that though the mother drove to and from Houston the first trip, after that it was all Megan driving.   

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31 minutes ago, calpurnia99 said:

This is the first time too that we have seen a pounder buy a scale and use it to weigh themselves. I think the reason is the scales that weigh to 1000 pounds are super expensive. I think this family had more money than the usual pounder family. The outside of their Texas apartment didn't look like a prison. I guess I'll google how much they cost but I am thinking over $200.  

ETA: I found it! $395!  but a livestock scale that goes up to 700 pounds is $300. The 1000 scale on amazon is "sold out". I guess lots of people need them.  This mom thought it was worth spending $400 on this scale but then kept offering to fry up slabs of bacon and pushing for butter and brown sugar on veggies!

If gyms across the country are not re-opened soon there's going to be a run on 1000 lbs max scales!!!!

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9 minutes ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

Yes, Megan cleared her home of forbidden foods, but according to her own criteria of demon sodium.    Of course, after that she threw a pound of bacon, shredded cheese, and a bottle of dressing on her salad.      Megan's earlier issues are she had a ton of DVT blood clots, that went to her lung, and she eventually was on 12 medications for high blood pressure, blood thinners, and other issues she had, and she's only 24. 

Playing devil's advocate.

There are people who LOVE going to the doctor, and who LOVE getting new prescriptions.  Because they "doctor shop" - and doctors are busy - they can go to a new doctor and fill out their medical history with whatever they want.  SOMETIMES a new doctor will check with other doctors, but not always.  And then patients can be assigned to an assistant or nurse practitioner for ongoing checkups, etc.

My brother self-diagnosed himself with fibromyalgia ("Mom had it, so I'm sure I do too").  His last doctor just wrote that down on his records, with no tests or even a referral to a specialist.  Then he shifted him to an assistant (not even an MD) for monitoring and refills.  Bro saw commercials on TV for Cymbalta for fibromyalgia and asked the medical assistant for a prescription.  He immediately began having severe reactions (including seizures), but had I not gone with him to see the assistant (and eventually to see the doctor), no one would have realized that the Cymbalta was causing a DECLINE in his health, not an improvement.  The assistant did help him to get off Cymbalta, but the seizures continued until we found him dead on his bathroom floor.

And some doctors just love prescribing meds.  I stopped seeing a doctor who had me on 8 prescriptions in my 40s.  When I'd complain about side effects, he tried to give me another prescription to address the side effects.  I told him that I needed to stop taking statins for (borderline) cholesterol and he said, "Well, if you want to have a stroke and spend the rest of your life in a wheelchair, drooling out one side of your mouth, I guess that's your choice.

I am currently on only over-the-counter medications at 73.  My cholesterol numbers were brought down slightly (enough to make my new doctor happy) with Niacin.  She knows I'm not going to take statins.  I feel fine, and I don't have to deal with side effects (other than Benadryl makes me sleepy).

Sorry if this is TMI . . . but doctors need to recommend options other than prescription drugs to help patients.  Why wasn't her primary doctor working with her about her weight?  Mine monitors mine closely.

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25 minutes ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

Yes, Megan cleared her home of forbidden foods, but according to her own criteria of demon sodium.    Of course, after that she threw a pound of bacon, shredded cheese, and a bottle of dressing on her salad.      Megan's earlier issues are she had a ton of DVT blood clots, that went to her lung, and she eventually was on 12 medications for high blood pressure, blood thinners, and other issues she had, and she's only 24.    

I loathed the mother.   Sitting there with her mouth gaping open, starring at Dr. Now like he was her dream man.    I notice that was when he told her she needed to lose a lot too.    If mother or daughter think the Now family will ever be interested in them, they're even more delusional than they are about demon sodium.            I can say that Megan, and her mother kept a clean house, but that's all.     I see zero chance that Mom will ever lose weight, or that MEgan will maintain any kind of weight loss.    

I found it interesting that though the mother drove to and from Houston the first trip, after that it was all Megan driving.   

Every time the mother was shown with her mouth open I kept thinking of Patrick Starfish.

Patrick.jpg

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Also, from the beginning, when Megan and mom are shopping in the grocery store at the beginning, Megan's mom says something like, "Megan has a sweet tooth.  I try to get her to eat healthier snacks, like chips, but she does have a sweet tooth."

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1 hour ago, dahling said:

Also, from the beginning, when Megan and mom are shopping in the grocery store at the beginning, Megan's mom says something like, "Megan has a sweet tooth.  I try to get her to eat healthier snacks, like chips, but she does have a sweet tooth."

I loved that one. Wherever did she get the idea that chips are healthier? It's like they think it's only unhealthy if it's got sugar or sodium.

Also, you have a sweet tooth? Eat some fruit! Healthier and sweet! (I believe the diet doesn't encourage too much fruit, but still. It's better than candy and cake.)

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1 hour ago, dahling said:

Also, from the beginning, when Megan and mom are shopping in the grocery store at the beginning, Megan's mom says something like, "Megan has a sweet tooth.  I try to get her to eat healthier snacks, like chips, but she does have a sweet tooth."

I heard that too! I thought maybe I had too much wine 

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2 hours ago, dahling said:

Also, from the beginning, when Megan and mom are shopping in the grocery store at the beginning, Megan's mom says something like, "Megan has a sweet tooth.  I try to get her to eat healthier snacks, like chips, but she does have a sweet tooth."

Mom obviously meant kale chips.  When I add chips to my list, I make a beeline to those!

 

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Just want to say that I thoroughly enjoyed my first experience on Live Chat!  I'm a west coaster and my new provider airs TLC on Eastern Time.  I couldn't keep up at all but irregardless it was a lot of fun!  Thanks for making me feel so welcome (being a virgin and all)!


I can't even imagine what the chat was like for the Assantis and James K.  

 

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Regarding the chips: I consider the Beanfields black bean chips, or kale chips, vegetable chips, somewhat healthier than blazing hot Doritos. It is probably a mistake on my part.
 

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41 minutes ago, Otter said:

I can't even imagine what the chat was like for the Assantis and James K.  

Epic.

I always have chat open in two tabs. I'll read in one and when something inspires me to comment I'll do it in the other tab. If I want respond to a post I'll open it in a new tab so I don't lose my place.

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47 minutes ago, Otter said:

I can't even imagine what the chat was like for the Assantis and James K.  

Go back and read them, and Schnee too.  
They are great fun to read, sometimes especially when you know what's coming.
I've reread  some occasionally.

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1 hour ago, auntjess said:

Go back and read them, and Schnee too.
They are great fun to read, sometimes especially when you know what's coming.
I've reread  some occasionally.

Honestly, those are such long threads and as an outsider looking in I wasn't inclined to read.  But it's totally different being able to participate!  

But now that I have more than just a taste of what live chat is (did read a bit) I shall go look!  

 

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11 hours ago, Otter said:

Honestly, those are such long threads and as an outsider looking in I wasn't inclined to read.  But it's totally different being able to participate!  

But now that I have more than just a taste of what live chat is (did read a bit) I shall go look!  

 

Otter....you have to go through the James K chat.  Like Uncle Sy would say...."that boy is a special kind of stupid."  If you have not seen the rerun it may prevent you from ever eating cauliflower again.

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13 hours ago, ams1001 said:

Epic.

I always have chat open in two tabs. I'll read in one and when something inspires me to comment I'll do it in the other tab. If I want respond to a post I'll open it in a new tab so I don't lose my place.

See now you are very industrious! That's commitment! 

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17 hours ago, AZChristian said:

Playing devil's advocate.

There are people who LOVE going to the doctor, and who LOVE getting new prescriptions.  Because they "doctor shop" - and doctors are busy - they can go to a new doctor and fill out their medical history with whatever they want.  SOMETIMES a new doctor will check with other doctors, but not always.  And then patients can be assigned to an assistant or nurse practitioner for ongoing checkups, etc.

My brother self-diagnosed himself with fibromyalgia ("Mom had it, so I'm sure I do too").  His last doctor just wrote that down on his records, with no tests or even a referral to a specialist.  Then he shifted him to an assistant (not even an MD) for monitoring and refills.  Bro saw commercials on TV for Cymbalta for fibromyalgia and asked the medical assistant for a prescription.  He immediately began having severe reactions (including seizures), but had I not gone with him to see the assistant (and eventually to see the doctor), no one would have realized that the Cymbalta was causing a DECLINE in his health, not an improvement.  The assistant did help him to get off Cymbalta, but the seizures continued until we found him dead on his bathroom floor.

And some doctors just love prescribing meds.  I stopped seeing a doctor who had me on 8 prescriptions in my 40s.  When I'd complain about side effects, he tried to give me another prescription to address the side effects.  I told him that I needed to stop taking statins for (borderline) cholesterol and he said, "Well, if you want to have a stroke and spend the rest of your life in a wheelchair, drooling out one side of your mouth, I guess that's your choice.

I am currently on only over-the-counter medications at 73.  My cholesterol numbers were brought down slightly (enough to make my new doctor happy) with Niacin.  She knows I'm not going to take statins.  I feel fine, and I don't have to deal with side effects (other than Benadryl makes me sleepy).

Sorry if this is TMI . . . but doctors need to recommend options other than prescription drugs to help patients.  Why wasn't her primary doctor working with her about her weight?  Mine monitors mine closely.

A friend’s 90 year old mother had several low level complaints, mostly about being tired and achy. The doctor told her that it was part of the package of being 90 and that she didn’t require anything. Her daughter was furious and took her mother to several other doctors and had her mother on 8 prescriptions. She was dead within a year.

There are people who don’t feel the doctor cares unless they get blood work and a prescription. These people help make doctors rich and Medicare broke.

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I'm 30 minutes in and so far, Megan has a lot of plusses in my book:

She's articulate

She's clean

She's nice to her mother

She has a little insight into her abuse of food and how it is affecting her health and her aspirations

She HAS aspirations

She wears shoes

She has nice hair

She is pleasant.


I hope she doesn't let me down.

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10 minutes ago, KateHearts said:

I'm 30 minutes in and so far, Megan has a lot of plusses in my book:

She's articulate

She's clean

She's nice to her mother

She has a little insight into her abuse of food and how it is affecting her health and her aspirations

She HAS aspirations

She wears shoes

She has nice hair

She is pleasant.


I hope she doesn't let me down.

She is a nice enough person,, but if you are 24 and let yourself get to 600 pounds, you have some serious issues with reality. Something is wired way, way off. She came out of the womb stuffing her face.

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