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3 hours ago, mamadrama said:

She is, but I'm still on her side.

Yup. She is not the one with money and power in this relationship and it makes me sad she would have to go to these lengths to escape poverty. Ed is the bigger douchebag because he clearly wants someone on an inferior position to him that he can command to do pretty much anything because she is dependent on him. 

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24 minutes ago, Takitaki said:

Yup. She is not the one with money and power in this relationship and it makes me sad she would have to go to these lengths to escape poverty. Ed is the bigger douchebag because he clearly wants someone on an inferior position to him that he can command to do pretty much anything because she is dependent on him. 

This is what makes me hate him with the heat of a thousand suns when he was there,.sleeping on this pitiful yoga mat of a mattress rose has at her home to sleep on and her pathetic poverty.....

 

and Ed's thought was "she lives in such awful poverty, anyone in this situation would want to come to the states" and then "but what if she does really love me and I'm just her way out?". 

That just made my blood boil.  The best that this fucking old ass mayo drenched turd could ever hope for, is that he can exploit desperate poverty to get a young girl.  He knows exactly what he is doing.  But now her poverty, which he exploited to get her....is a problem.  She has to LOVE him.  Fuck this guy.  The only angle of this story where Ed isn't an asshole is if he is selflessly saving a girl from poverty and she is grateful for that and stays with him.  

But this hypocrisy is so upsetting to me.  Why the hell does he think she would love him?  Because he creepily rubs her feet and talks to her like a five year old?  Because they can barely communicate?  Because she secretly has a thing for greasy old men who are under five feet and shaped like a bowling pin? 

he and Lisa are always in a race to the bottom.  But at least Lisa isn't trying to be a "good guy". 

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5 hours ago, RealReality said:

This is what makes me hate him with the heat of a thousand suns when he was there,.sleeping on this pitiful yoga mat of a mattress rose has at her home to sleep on and her pathetic poverty.....

 

and Ed's thought was "she lives in such awful poverty, anyone in this situation would want to come to the states" and then "but what if she does really love me and I'm just her way out?". 

That just made my blood boil.  The best that this fucking old ass mayo drenched turd could ever hope for, is that he can exploit desperate poverty to get a young girl.  He knows exactly what he is doing.  But now her poverty, which he exploited to get her....is a problem.  She has to LOVE him.  Fuck this guy.  The only angle of this story where Ed isn't an asshole is if he is selflessly saving a girl from poverty and she is grateful for that and stays with him.  

But this hypocrisy is so upsetting to me.  Why the hell does he think she would love him?  Because he creepily rubs her feet and talks to her like a five year old?  Because they can barely communicate?  Because she secretly has a thing for greasy old men who are under five feet and shaped like a bowling pin? 

he and Lisa are always in a race to the bottom.  But at least Lisa isn't trying to be a "good guy". 

Sing it, sister (or brother). 

He supposedly loves her but his initial reaction was to think about himself. If that were me I'd have been thinking, "Wow, it makes me so sad to see her and her son struggle and do without. I can't wait for her to California. I want the best for her." 

He'll go on about how she may be using him, but he shows no signs of loving HER.

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20 hours ago, mamadrama said:

She is, but I'm still on her side.

Agreed. So far it's been Ed wants this and Ed wants that. Ed wants Rose to take an STD test but Ed won't take one in the Philippines but in the States. Ed wants AC. Ed wants Rose to shave her legs. 

I noticed that not only was the champagne done (which I don't believe it was the finest but some cheap bottle) but the red bottle of wine.  I bet Rose had to get well and truly plastered to have sex with Ed.  If I had to guess, Ed is a two pump hump.

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13 hours ago, greekmom said:

Agreed. So far it's been Ed wants this and Ed wants that. Ed wants Rose to take an STD test but Ed won't take one in the Philippines but in the States. Ed wants AC. Ed wants Rose to shave her legs. 

I noticed that not only was the champagne done (which I don't believe it was the finest but some cheap bottle) but the red bottle of wine.  I bet Rose had to get well and truly plastered to have sex with Ed.  If I had to guess, Ed is a two pump hump.

I'd have gotten downright drunk if it were me.

Ed wants her to sit down on her "butt" ("As opposed to her head?" my son asked). Ed wants her to take a hot bath (he doesn't have to, of course). Ed wants her to kiss him on the mouth. Ed needs 1000 tc sheets. Ed needs certain food so he sends a grill. Hell, even his "gifts" are about him. Cause you know he has some of that "massage oil" and other "gifts" for "her" at the bottom of that ill-packed suitcase. Ed wants a lot. So far the only thing Rose has wanted (on camera, at least) is for him to shave his beard.

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3 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Ed needs 1000 tc sheets.

Will Rose make up the sleeping mat with the sheets that Ed sent or were they sold in the store?I am sure if Ed asks where are the gifts he sent they will feign ignorance, shrug and say how corrupt the mail service is and things disappear all the time.

I noticed that the hotel sheets did bother Ed's oh so sensitive skin.

 

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6 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Will Rose make up the sleeping mat with the sheets that Ed sent or were they sold in the store?I am sure if Ed asks where are the gifts he sent they will feign ignorance, shrug and say how corrupt the mail service is and things disappear all the time.

I noticed that the hotel sheets did bother Ed's oh so sensitive skin.

 

Gotta admit, I'd have been tempted to sell them...

When he was talking about all the stuff he'd sent her I was wondering if she even had the room/storage for all of it. 

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This went down on Ed's FB in Tagalog, but this is the only English translation I see. It was translated to English using Facebook's translation and the Google translate examples made no sense. 

I don't know why it's showing as video; there doesn't appear to be anything other than what you see. This is from Rosemarie's sister to Ed.

It's being further reported that she made comments about him cutting off the money and gifts he was sending and responded to someone that yes, her sister is with a woman, but that doesn't absolve Ed from sending the stuff he said he was going to send, and accuses him of leaking the girlfriend/wife info to get the heat of himself and back on Rosemarie. Others are saying that they cannot find those posts, and they could have been deleted or not have existed at all. Who knows.

There are more photos of Rose and her son with her girlfriend and her family, but they are blurry and you really can't tell it's her, so I didn't bother to link them.

59 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Wouldn't have been easier for Big Egg to just go to a brothel in the Philippines instead of trying to get a relationship/wife?  And is Rosemarie's sister named Maryrose?

Then he could only get a Pornhub video if he pays extra. This way he stars on TV without the risk that the police raids on the week he is there 

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3 hours ago, Gobi said:

I'm pretty sure there are prostitutes in San Diego, must be too expensive for him.

Unless it's golden poon it should cost less than a plane ticket to the phillipines.  

But, I think Ed, much like colt, crunched the numbers and figured that long term it was less expensive to sponsor an indentured servant wife than it was to regularly pay for sex over the next 20 years.  You add to that the savings of having to pay for a caregiver for Ed and possibly his mom and Ed comes out ahead financially. 

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Based on my experience of traveling in Southeast Asia, I'm going to guess that Rose is/was a prostitute. The tattoo of her name on the inside of her bicep is strong indicator giveaway. I would never say that tattoos on American women are indicative of promiscuity or prostitution, but in Southeast Asia, they are.

"Good" poor girls don't get tattoos there, and display them prominently, because they don't want to be mistaken for prostitutes.  

Then you add in "She or her sister ask Ed for money," "Reaches into his wallet for cash," "Willing to be seen walking around her village with Ed,"  "Not at all embarrassed about checking into a hotel with Ed," "no one cares she's sleeping with Ed in her family home a day after meeting him," "gives him a death stare of rage when angry" and "apparently bisexual."  

It adds up to probable prostitute to me.

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1 hour ago, gavinmac said:

Based on my experience of traveling in Southeast Asia, I'm going to guess that Rose is/was a prostitute. The tattoo of her name on the inside of her bicep is strong indicator giveaway. I would never say that tattoos on American women are indicative of promiscuity or prostitution, but in Southeast Asia, they are.

"Good" poor girls don't get tattoos there, and display them prominently, because they don't want to be mistaken for prostitutes.  

Then you add in "She or her sister ask Ed for money," "Reaches into his wallet for cash," "Willing to be seen walking around her village with Ed,"  "Not at all embarrassed about checking into a hotel with Ed," "no one cares she's sleeping with Ed in her family home a day after meeting him," "gives him a death stare of rage when angry" and "apparently bisexual."  

It adds up to probable prostitute to me.

I would say times, they are a changing as far as tattoos are going. While lesbians are going full sleeves others following local celebrities are at the easily hidden tramp stamp stage with some going for the pre Catholic and Islamic tribal tattoos.

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21 minutes ago, gingerella said:

 And they still don’t look anything like Rose...

Those photos are her girlfriend/wife, not Rose. She's been referred to as both and I don't know which is correct. Rosemarie confirmed they were together to one of the tabloids, Blast I think, and got yelled at by production with her income threatened, so they agreed to hold the article. Her comments are on FB and someone had cut and pasted it to Twitter and Reddit. 

 

On 4/8/2020 at 10:34 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

Will Rose make up the sleeping mat with the sheets that Ed sent or were they sold in the store?I am sure if Ed asks where are the gifts he sent they will feign ignorance, shrug and say how corrupt the mail service is and things disappear all the time.

I noticed that the hotel sheets did bother Ed's oh so sensitive skin.

 

I noticed that as well.

This episode coming on Sunday shows them making up the mat on the floor with the sheets he sent over.  

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8 hours ago, Christina said:

Those photos are her girlfriend/wife, not Rose. She's been referred to as both and I don't know which is correct. Rosemarie confirmed they were together to one of the tabloids, Blast I think, and got yelled at by production with her income threatened, so they agreed to hold the article. Her comments are on FB and someone had cut and pasted it to Twitter and Reddit. 

 

There are two women. If one is girlfriend/wife than who is the other?

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20 hours ago, gavinmac said:

Based on my experience of traveling in Southeast Asia, I'm going to guess that Rose is/was a prostitute. The tattoo of her name on the inside of her bicep is strong indicator giveaway. I would never say that tattoos on American women are indicative of promiscuity or prostitution, but in Southeast Asia, they are.

"Good" poor girls don't get tattoos there, and display them prominently, because they don't want to be mistaken for prostitutes.  

Then you add in "She or her sister ask Ed for money," "Reaches into his wallet for cash," "Willing to be seen walking around her village with Ed,"  "Not at all embarrassed about checking into a hotel with Ed," "no one cares she's sleeping with Ed in her family home a day after meeting him," "gives him a death stare of rage when angry" and "apparently bisexual."  

It adds up to probable prostitute to me.

That's been said for almost every Asian woman who has appeared on the show so far.

Personally, I don't give a fudge. Whether she's a hooker or the madam of The Best Little Whorehouse in the Philippines, Ed and his mayo head is still gross, he's still rude, and Rose's situation is still sad. People turn to prostitution out of desperation; it's generally not a career aspiration.

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3 hours ago, mamadrama said:

That's been said for almost every Asian woman who has appeared on the show so far.

Personally, I don't give a fudge. Whether she's a hooker or the madam of The Best Little Whorehouse in the Philippines, Ed and his mayo head is still gross, he's still rude, and Rose's situation is still sad. People turn to prostitution out of desperation; it's generally not a career aspiration.

Noon's Asian and I don't think many people suggest Noon was a prostitute. Or Daya. Or Aya. Or Jenny. Because they didn't look, dress, or act like prostitutes.



 

 

 

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4 hours ago, mamadrama said:

There are two women. If one is girlfriend/wife than who is the other?

@mamadrama, that photo's been circulated on the internet, saying it's Rose but it doesn't look anything like it to some of us. This show in particular seems to bring out all sorts of speculation and 'articles' but most are from dubious-at-best sources so who the hell knows...?!? To me, it doesn't add to the show in any way because it's all speculation. There's enough to bag on that's shown on the actual show, and wrt MayoEd, it's almost a well of things we can comment on because the guy is just beYOND disgusting.

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2 hours ago, gavinmac said:

Noon's Asian and I don't think many people suggest Noon was a prostitute. Or Daya. Or Aya. Or Jenny. Because they didn't look, dress, or act like prostitutes.



 

 

 

But it HAS been speculated about Annie (David), Aya, Hazel, Aika, and Daya. Juliana, Abby, Melissa, Niki, Akinyi, and Anny (Robert) have also been accused of prostitution though they're not Asian . So perhaps I should just cross out the word "Asian" and just say "women" though I hardly think that makes it better...

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3 hours ago, mamadrama said:

But it HAS been speculated about Annie (David), Aya, Hazel, Aika, and Daya. Juliana, Abby, Melissa, Niki, Akinyi, and Anny (Robert) have also been accused of prostitution though they're not Asian . So perhaps I should just cross out the word "Asian" and just say "women" though I hardly think that makes it better...

You forgot Larissa. 

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Gobi said:

I think Avery is a prostitute: multiple tattoos, unwed mother with children from different fathers, into drugs, insists on drinking hard liquor when with people who don’t, has sex with someone the first time they meet in person. The signs are there.

Avery is hipster dope-cooking American, that's why she's tattooed. She isn't from a country where there's a strong correlation between tattoos and prostitution. 

Similarly, I don't think Geoffrey is involved in organized crime just because he has the horrible chest/nipple tattoos. But if he were a heavily tattooed Japanese guy with a record of drug dealing and beating women, I would definitely assume he was a member of the "Yakuza."

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I want to say that I have no idea if Ed's and Rose's relationship is real or not. Or if they are together or not. 

I have said this before, but I think Ed should have gotten his vasectomy before he met Rose. If he doesn't want kids, he could have taken care of it years ago. I think Ed may want to have a baby, but he's saying he doesn't to get out of parenting responsibilities like changing diapers. "Since having a kid was your idea, you change the diapers."

I hope this is a shomance, and Ed and Rose don't have babies together.

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Most countries are too big and have too many outside cultural influences for us to make a singular ironclad statement about them. Filipinos have access to the internet, to Western media and to outside travelers. Culture is not stagnant, it's forever changing. "Asia" is a huge place and encompasses many different countries whose own history and geography help shape their culture. Heck, you can barely make a singular statement that encompasses one end of my state and the other.

Tribalism tattoos have been a huge part of Filipino culture for centuries and some of these tattoos were definitely not about being loose women. In fact, they were rights of passage. The Phillipines is made up of many different tribes. 

This female tattooist in the Philippines has been recognized as an artist. https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/fang-od-oggay-kalinga-tattoo-philippines

"Filipino tattoos symbolize unity and belonging to a tribe, in contrast to the western tattoo culture where designs are often used to show individuality"

 

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On 4/10/2020 at 5:18 AM, gavinmac said:

Based on my experience of traveling in Southeast Asia, I'm going to guess that Rose is/was a prostitute. The tattoo of her name on the inside of her bicep is strong indicator giveaway. I would never say that tattoos on American women are indicative of promiscuity or prostitution, but in Southeast Asia, they are.

"Good" poor girls don't get tattoos there, and display them prominently, because they don't want to be mistaken for prostitutes.  

Then you add in "She or her sister ask Ed for money," "Reaches into his wallet for cash," "Willing to be seen walking around her village with Ed,"  "Not at all embarrassed about checking into a hotel with Ed," "no one cares she's sleeping with Ed in her family home a day after meeting him," "gives him a death stare of rage when angry" and "apparently bisexual."  

It adds up to probable prostitute to me.

I think your views are very outdated.

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1 hour ago, Takitaki said:

I think your views are very outdated.

Very out dated, the only prosti's have tattoos prejudice. You can Google search the tattoo of most 30 something into their 40s Filipina celebrities, if you knew their names, and see the tattoos. The general society has followed suit and it is no big deal as they are now starting to show up on places not easily hidden by working clothes.

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