S07.E13: Can I Get a Witness

[OnceSane]

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Blake & Jasmin, Anna & Mursel, Robert & Anny, and Tania & Syngin are out of time and must wed. Angela & Michael have a setback. Mike's call to Natalie leaves some unanswered questions. Michael talks to his ex-wife, Sarah, about his prenup decision.

Airs February 9, 2020.

[Christina]

This thread has appeared, disappeared, then reappeared again. This show has successfully driven me mad.

I've wondered if Tania would be attractive if she never spoke, and I think that answer is yes. Her personality makes her extremely ugly. When she was putting the wedding tables up she was wearing a shirt with the hashtag #keepalefree.

From the website: It's longish so I put it under the spoiler tab. 

Spoiler

Alejandra has lived in the United States since she was a baby. She grew up with her mother and brother, who are both U.S. citizens.

As a young person living in Arizona, Alejandra was arrested and convicted of several charges, including driving under the influence and possession of drug paraphernalia, some of which were felonies under state law. In 2011, after she complied with court orders for her arrests, she was detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and spent 2 years at the Eloy Detention Center in Southern Arizona, was placed in deportation proceedings, and lost her residency.

After being released from detention in 2013, Alejandra began to advocate for human and civil rights, dedicating her life to organizing for reproductive justice and the rights of immigrants.

In January 2018, Pablos was leading chants at a peaceful protest in Virginia outside of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), when she was singled out and detained by DHS agents. This arrest was a result of her work as a human rights defender, which does not pose any risk to public safety. Although she was released from jail and all charges against her stemming from this arrest have since been dropped, this flagged her case for ICE.

On March 07, 2018, when Pablos showed up for her check-in with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in Tucson, she was taken into custody. Ale was held at the Eloy Detention Center in southern Arizona awaiting a bond hearing for 42 days.

The same day she was detained, Ale’s supporters started gathering letters of support and petition signatures. They quickly gathered over 20,000 signatures demanding her release.

On April 19th, 2018 Alejandra had an immigration bond hearing in Eloy, AZ. Thanks to the overwhelming amount of community support, a federal immigration judge a declared Alejandra was eligible to be released on a bond of $8,000 and was allowed to go home with her family. She was released later that day.

Although no longer in custody, Alejandra still has to continue to fight her deportation case. Alejandra’s immigration case is complicated in part because of prior criminal history. If AZ Governor Ducey were to pardon Alejandra for the charges from a decade ago, she would have a chance to fight to  remain home in the US with her family and community.

Alejandra is yet another name added to the growing list of immigrant rights and human rights defenders in the United States who have been targeted by ICE for deportation.

Tania actually used her platform to advertise a cause that wasn't benefiting herself somehow. I'm a bit impressed; she never does anything that she doesn't think makes her look good or benefit her self-importance somehow.

[Spike]

9 minutes ago, Christina said:

This thread has appeared, disappeared, then reappeared again. This show has successfully driven me mad.

I've wondered if Tania would be attractive if she never spoke, and I think that answer is yes. Her personality makes her extremely ugly. When she was putting the wedding tables up she was wearing a shirt with the hashtag #keepalefree.

From the website: It's longish so I put it under the spoiler tab. 

  Reveal spoiler

Alejandra has lived in the United States since she was a baby. She grew up with her mother and brother, who are both U.S. citizens.

As a young person living in Arizona, Alejandra was arrested and convicted of several charges, including driving under the influence and possession of drug paraphernalia, some of which were felonies under state law. In 2011, after she complied with court orders for her arrests, she was detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and spent 2 years at the Eloy Detention Center in Southern Arizona, was placed in deportation proceedings, and lost her residency.

After being released from detention in 2013, Alejandra began to advocate for human and civil rights, dedicating her life to organizing for reproductive justice and the rights of immigrants.

In January 2018, Pablos was leading chants at a peaceful protest in Virginia outside of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), when she was singled out and detained by DHS agents. This arrest was a result of her work as a human rights defender, which does not pose any risk to public safety. Although she was released from jail and all charges against her stemming from this arrest have since been dropped, this flagged her case for ICE.

On March 07, 2018, when Pablos showed up for her check-in with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in Tucson, she was taken into custody. Ale was held at the Eloy Detention Center in southern Arizona awaiting a bond hearing for 42 days.

The same day she was detained, Ale’s supporters started gathering letters of support and petition signatures. They quickly gathered over 20,000 signatures demanding her release.

On April 19th, 2018 Alejandra had an immigration bond hearing in Eloy, AZ. Thanks to the overwhelming amount of community support, a federal immigration judge a declared Alejandra was eligible to be released on a bond of $8,000 and was allowed to go home with her family. She was released later that day.

Although no longer in custody, Alejandra still has to continue to fight her deportation case. Alejandra’s immigration case is complicated in part because of prior criminal history. If AZ Governor Ducey were to pardon Alejandra for the charges from a decade ago, she would have a chance to fight to  remain home in the US with her family and community.

Alejandra is yet another name added to the growing list of immigrant rights and human rights defenders in the United States who have been targeted by ICE for deportation.

Tania actually used her platform to advertise a cause that wasn't benefiting herself somehow. I'm a bit impressed; she never does anything that she doesn't think makes her look good or benefit her self-importance somehow.

As a bartender I thought she meant pale ale should be free.

Did they have a big roll of paper towel on a table right by where they got married?  Maybe to wipe the blood from the tattoos?

[Kiss my mutt]

Looks like we’re in more Jerry Springer moments next week 

[Frozendiva]

Mike and Natalie - methinks the ship has sailed and is close to sinking. The relationship has a lot of issues and both of you need time and distance to see if there is anything meaningful left in the wreck.

Blake and Jasmin - no idea of what a wedding entails? There are a gazillion bridal magazines and websites. Weddings are a multi-billion dollar industry? In your 29 years Jasmin, you have never been to anyone's wedding? No relatives? Nothing? You don't know about bouquets or anything? Have you ever read what some wedding vows sound like? Most folks don't understand wedding vows when they are young - they sound pretty and you try hard, but until you go through some crappy experiences, you have no idea. You came across as an idiot - a frozen one. No idea if you want a Green Card to stay with your sister, or have any plans for any sort of job, or what. I, I don't know.

Sarah and Michael - get out of your ex-husband's life and both of you set some healthy boundaries. What your ex does with his new wife is not your business. You may know some stuff, but Juliana has to figure out who her husband really is and whether she will put up with him. The pre-nush was a good idea, and Michael was well manipulated out of it. Sarah, your only business is as a co-parent and not to make jokes about your husband's new wife and the little fun you have with the 'she's not a prostitute' bit and still make cracks about it in other ways. As long as the kids' education is set aside for or there is some provision for doing so, let your ex mess up his own life without your help.

Angela and Michael - he really deserves some award for his performance. Maybe he does love Angela in his own way, but he loves getting to America more. Seems to be a nice guy and maybe there would be some other suitable American partners.

Anna and Mursel - the buzz will wear off. Both, plus the kids, would benefit from some sort of family counselling to blend this family. Hopefully Mursel has learned more English and can now communicate with everyone. Seemed to be a mad rush wedding. No idea what the future will bee for them.

Tania and Syngin - Tania, you will need to define what a soulmate is to you. Chances are you haven't met a real soulmate yet. You will know when you do and you will have the Wham! moment of recognition. Soulmates happen to old souls and there are many kinds of soulmates. Maybe you have the Hollywood fantasy of a soulmate. You have rushed in to an ill-advised marriage on both your ends. There is a lot of work for you and Syngin to have a successful relationship and you just seem to flit around to things that catch your eye in the moment. The black dress - a no. For the wedding, get a temporary tattoo and get a real one later.

Robert and Anny - they got the nicest little wedding. The stunt he pulled at the altar was cringe-inducing. I too wondered if he was going to admit to having more kids. The engagement ring thing was not the thing to do. Anny does seem to have some genuine affection for Bryson and maybe things will work out.

 

[SunnyBeBe]

Honestly....I try to use good manners, especially special occasions like weddings, but if I were a guest and the couple announced tattoos as part of the ceremony.... I really think I’d leave.

[Leilani]

From the way Jasmin blocked that kiss from Blake at the wedding they might never consummate this marriage.

Syngin said there has been no divorces in his family for 500 years...sadly I think Tania the Terrible will break this half century streak.

 

Edited February 10, 2020 by Leilani

[Frozendiva]

Half millennium streak?

[Nilo]

Omg - Anna’s wedding drove me crazy.  Why couldn’t they just have swung by the courthouse and gotten legally married on the way home from the airport - after getting Mursel a snack?  The time pressure was ridiculous.  Not to mention the fact that he was jet-lagged, there were family issues, and wild amounts of stress. Just handle the legalities to buy some time, then they could have had a more relaxed wedding with the bees a few days later.

[Jeanne222]

Was that Darcy and Tom in the new series???  What the heck does she have going on that she's everywhere???

[seasons]

Wow wow wow. Natalie seems seriously off the rails.

For a big guy, mike has no shoulders.

 

Michael didnt get the pre nush because it got too stressful for him to deal with.the ex wife is right to be worried for their children. Being married to a doughy wuss like him would be torture. When problems come he seems to just not be able to face them.

 

What are those marks on Angela's chest? Ew.

[seasons]

The bad grammar on this show is astonishing.

ain't no doubt about it. 

[Leilani]

[seasons]

I love little Leo. Bless his heart. No snark. 💕

[Leilani]

1 minute ago, seasons said:

I love little Leo. Bless his heart. No snark. 💕

He is Anna's favorite.

[Irritable]

I don’t know what the hell is wrong with me, but I actually had feelings and smiled during Anna and Mursel’s wedding???? I would have chosen a very different gown for her, but Mursel seemed genuinely blown away by the sight of her in it. They do seem to have some real love in there among all the weirdness, communication problems and family stresses.  I don’t see how it’s enough to make a marriage work and last, but the heart makes these decisions, not the mind.  I hope they don’t end in permanent-damage-causing disaster. Her younger sons were very sweet about what is such a tough situation for them. 

I’m unclear as to why Syngin and Tania we’re running so far behind for their wedding, considering they don’t have jobs.  But this is the dumbass who had months to get the shed livable for herself and Syngin, but decided instead to just lie and say it was done, and sit on her ass instead until he got there and could do it for her.  How in the world did they not show up super early to set up? Neither one had written their vows? No one knew she didn’t have a photographer until an hour before the ceremony? She didn’t have time to bathe before wedding dress, hair and makeup? It turned out visually nice (except for the live action tattoo part), but I wonder how late the ceremony started. I have no hope or expectation that they will last, and actually hope they don’t, for Syngin’s sake. However long they make it, I expect their life together will be a disorganized, flighty, flaky mess. 
 

What in the name of all that is holy were the things tangled up deep in Robert’s hair when he took it out of a ponytail? I felt so bad for that hair stylist, having to pick all that stuff out and then manhandle the unkempt mess into something presentable. Anny looked lovely. Bryson is such a beautiful child, and seems to be the only good thing she is getting out of this deal. It will be sad for Bryson when she inevitably leaves, but if Robert ever had “peak years” they were over a long time ago, and now that he no longer has to promise her things that will make her life nicer she can forget about a 2 bedroom apartment. There’s only so much money he can ever make as a driver because there are limited hours in the day. This is as good as it gets. If she finds a decent job, that will only give her the freedom to leave, she’s not going to want to be the one to support their lives while he’s paying child support for his other 4 kids.  I giggled when he said he would “love her for his entire time on this urf.” 

I have no opinion about boring Jasmine and Blake. He’s smitten, for some reason, and she gets to be near her sister, so meh, maybe they will both be happy enough. Whatever.

My only opinion about Angela and Michael is that I am PISSED they didn’t  wrap their shit up on this episode.  They are going to be back on for another season, and I can’t take another minute of their story. It’s my God-given right as a taxpayer to not have to see them ever again, dammit!!!

I’m so ready for a new season of fresh couples ... and Darcy.  I’ll just fast forward past her stuff, because like Michael and Angela, I have reached my saturation point. I feel like this season was so bad there’s no way the next one won’t be better.

[seasons]

Angela and Darcy need to just go away. 

[Nickieca]

So Michael brags about being wealthy, has driven around showing us 4 flashy cars to prove it ( eyeroll).   Yet his ex wife has a huge tear on her tatty leather old sofa tonight ...lol ..I knew the I’m so rich storyline was fake.   She looked a little wasted again.  What’s with her need to be constantly on the show?   It’s like she told Michael the kids could be on it only if she was included. 

[Christina]

Here are some wedding photos

Blake and Jasmin

Spoiler

 

Anna & Mursel

Spoiler

 

I clicked on the link for Tania and Syngin but it lead me to a video of Colt and I'm now blind. So, maybe I'll find them tomorrow.

[Christina]

4 hours ago, Spike said:

As a bartender I thought she meant pale ale should be free.

Did they have a big roll of paper towel on a table right by where they got married?  Maybe to wipe the blood from the tattoos?

That was actually my thought when I searched the hashtag, leaving me disappointed to see it was a Social Justice Advocate fighting her deportation.

Now that you have mentioned the same thought, there is no reason not to believe that Tania also thought this was about a crisp alcoholic beverage and not a human being who's life doesn't affect or benefit her any. No reason at all to give her that benefit of the doubt; she's just so irksome. 

[magemaud]

I had to watch tonight on my phone, so the broadcast commercials might have been different, but I cracked up when they had an ad for Metamucil. 

[nutella fitzgerald]

This wasn’t worth waiting two weeks for.

[blubld43]

1 hour ago, nutella fitzgerald said:

This wasn’t worth waiting two weeks for.

No it wasn't.  I can't wait for the new season.

[Hangin Out]

9 hours ago, Leilani said:

From the way Jasmin blocked that kiss from Blake at the wedding they might never consummate this marriage.

Syngin said there has been no divorces in his family for 500 years...sadly I think Tania the Terrible will break this half century streak.

 

Between looking weird, eating weird and weird ideas, I could swear Jasmine is from outer space.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

Jeeez did I just watch TLC’s show Four Weddings ? I need to rewatch and come back with my ratings !! 

One thing, Anna shouldn’t have gotten married without her boy. That is sad and he is hurting. If he was 35 I would say fine he needs to suck it up. But he is a kid. With normal kid feelings and reality . I despise her. And she needed a longer fucking dress at the airport . Imagine where that hemline went when she hugged him at arrival. 

[Hangin Out]

What is wrong with Mike from Oregon?  Natalie cannot put a sentence together.  What is she talking about anyhow.  I don’t think she even knows.  I can’t stand her.

[Hangin Out]

4 minutes ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

Jeeez did I just watch TLC’s show Four Weddings ? I need to rewatch and come back with my ratings !! 

One thing, Anna shouldn’t have gotten married without her boy. That is sad and he is hurting. If he was 35 I would say fine he needs to suck it up. But he is a kid. With normal kid feelings and reality . I despise her. And she needed a longer fucking dress at the airport . Imagine where that hemline went when she hugged him at arrival. 

She’s putting herself before her son.  That’s the kind of kid that will join the military to get out of the house.  I feel so bad for him.  You would think by this time Muriel would know one word of English.  I have a feeling Muriel isn’t the first man she’s brought into the house.  Murcel, not Muriel.  Damn auto correct.  (I don’t know how to change it).  Getting back to the boy.  I hope there’s someone he can talk to like an uncle or a friends father or someone.  Now, she’s going to make the kid feel guilty that he didn’t come to the wedding.  Geeze.  Plus, she probably wants the boys on for more money.  Where’s the real Father?  Go see your beautiful sons.  They all probably look like him.

 

 

 

 

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

13 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

She’s putting herself before her son.  That’s the kind of kid that will join the military to get out of the house.  I feel so bad for him.  You would think by this time Muriel would know one word of English.  I have a feeling Muriel isn’t the first man she’s brought into the house.  Murcel, not Muriel.  Damn auto correct.  (I don’t know how to change it).  Getting back to the boy.  I hope there’s someone he can talk to like an uncle or a friends father or someone.  Now, she’s going to make the kid feel guilty that he didn’t come to the wedding.  Geeze.  Plus, she probably wants the boys on for more money.  Where’s the real Father?  Go see your beautiful sons.  They all probably look like him.

 

 

 

 

Agree I want to adopt them all! 

 Anna was teaching ESL in rural Mexico according to her LinkedIn around the time the oldest was born. It is possible their Dad is from Mexico and/or was someone she met there.  Their beautiful dark hair and skin and features could reflect that they have latino heritage. It is a stretch but a possibility their dad is no longer in this country.  It is all so secretive about him I wonder if he is away in some form. 

This could mean that Muriel hell let's call him that is not her first foreign husband/ fiance/SO.

Edited February 10, 2020 by Alonzo Mosely FBI

[Hangin Out]

8 hours ago, Nilo said:

Omg - Anna’s wedding drove me crazy.  Why couldn’t they just have swung by the courthouse and gotten legally married on the way home from the airport - after getting Mursel a snack?  The time pressure was ridiculous.  Not to mention the fact that he was jet-lagged, there were family issues, and wild amounts of stress. Just handle the legalities to buy some time, then they could have had a more relaxed wedding with the bees a few days later.

With all the craziness going on, Murcel is hungry?  Why didn’t he make a sandwich for the plane ride or buy some candy at the airport.  He could barely dress himself.  I think he’s a little boy in big boys pants.

 

[Spike]

6 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

With all the craziness going on, Murcel is hungry?  Why didn’t he make a sandwich for the plane ride or buy some candy at the airport.  He could barely dress himself.  I think he’s a little boy in big boys pants.

 

He couldn’t fix his collar and no one offered to do it for him.

[EtheltoTillie]

Sheesh TLC. We have now seen the “I can’t do this now” fourteen times with no resolution.  Now they give a stupid twist. 

[Hangin Out]

7 minutes ago, Spike said:

He couldn’t fix his collar and no one offered to do it for him.

She’s gotta be desperate.  Now, she has four boys.  All this work for a little nookie, in plain English.

[hookedontv]

8 hours ago, seasons said:

For a big guy, mike has no shoulders.

Somewhere, Tim is sitting on a couch, reading this comment, legs crossed like a lady, wearing a matching watch and cap. And he smiles. 

[Hangin Out]

Oh .. this show.  Now, they show Darcy New Face and her Sister New Face and what’s his name, the English guy.  Darcy’s face is all bloated and twisted, maybe bigger girls on her chest too.  

[PityFree]

The marks on Angela’s chest are from a CO2 laser that her dermatologist used on her chest to get rid of all those age spots and wrinkles. I’ve had CO2 laser done on my face so I have a bit of experience with this. It took about a week for all of the little marks to go away on me. That tells me that Angela either got it done on her way to the airport or she’s not healing very well. You’d better believe I was advised to stay out of the sun and wear sunscreen—neither of which Angela seems to be doing. But then she is still smoking and that’s crappy for healing so her whole trip to the dermatologist was a wasted effort, in my humble opinion.

Edited February 10, 2020 by PityFree

[seacliffsal]

Jasmine with all of her 'I don't know anything about weddings, I have never been to one...' yet she proudly stated that she didn't buy a traditional wedding gown but rather this very one.  Well, how do you know what a traditional wedding gown looks like as you don't know anything about weddings, nor have you ever been to one?  Oh, and there are some of us who watch Say Yes to the Dress, and, no, your dress wasn't that unusual (nor was Tania's black dress).

Tania and Surgeon thought they were so very unique with all of their 'this is a DIY wedding' and how they went on and on about it.  Again, no, not so unique.  Again, Tania is just so special she doesn't even need to wear a seatbelt in the car (nor did Surgeon).  And, go to the rental the night before the wedding so you have time to finish all of your DIY projects.  But, no, that wouldn't be as dramatic.  Same with Anna-she was so stressed about getting ready for the wedding-why not start your preparations earlier?

I must be wrong, but I thought that Joey was in the audience at the wedding.  I was confused about Murcel stating that brides wore the red ribbon for their first wedding.  Was Anna married to the boys' father?  And, if so, wouldn't this then be her second wedding?  Or is this something else they are trying, unsuccessfully, to hide?

I can't believe Mike told Natalie that he would talk to her later.  There were several times when they were talking on the phone that I just hoped he was going to just hang up on her.

Hopefully the Tell All will be good...  

[hookedontv]

I agree with @seacliffsal. Jasmine saying she's never been to a wedding, doesn't know about weddings, etc. was a crock. And if that was the case, honey there's a little thing you might be aware of since you want to be an "influencer" - it's call the internet. You plug in the word "wedding" or "weddings in the US" and OMG, there's pages and pages and pages of information and photos. It's producer driven or in addition to her face being frozen by fillers, the chemicals have seeped into her brains and rendered them useless as well.

Tania was ridiculous. All of it. And if you have to keep talking about how "unconvential" and "different" you are -- you really aren't. She fills me with hate and rage. She had such crazy eyes during the ceremony too. And I mentioned this on the live thread - Mystic CT is a lovely, seaside community. Very picturesque and I know it well. It's about 45 minutes from Colchester CT. I don't know why they rented an AirBnB that looked like a split level house found anywhere in any community, they could have done that in Colchester. If you go to Mystic, you go for the charming downtown, water views, etc. 

[Spike]

You’d think during the 30 days Tania was in Costa Rica there would have been plenty of time for Syngin to write his vows.  Who waits until the day of?  Maybe they are a good match, both procrastinators.

[Mrs. Hanson]

21 minutes ago, Spike said:

You’d think during the 30 days Tania was in Costa Rica there would have been plenty of time for Syngin to write his vows.  Who waits until the day of?  Maybe they are a good match, both procrastinators.

I thought this, too!  What really bugged me was:

1) Having your friends work for you, for free, on the day of the wedding.  I am sure they were serving food and bartending all night - for free.

2) You are still in shorts, need to bathe and do hair and makeup and guests are arriving

3) No vow writing until the day of

4) Officiant swears and vows include the work "drunk" and "one night stand"

5) Tattoos instead of rings of a sign that neither of you possess.

6) Vowing to try harder - wtf? 

7) Tania's mom looked unkempt.

8) The "beautiful AirBnB" was a regular split level home with weeds growing out of the gutter.

9) That food and drink better be good to make up for sitting through two people getting tattoos.

But the biggest thing I noticed all evening:  WHERE IS EVERYONE'S DAD????

That was just their wedding.  I will be back later to talk about the Bellboy and Bellboy Junior.

And if "I am About to Have a Seizure Sarah" talks about the damn prenup once more......

Edited February 10, 2020 by Mrs. Hanson

[Hangin Out]

1 hour ago, PityFree said:

The marks on Angela’s chest are from a CO2 laser that her dermatologist used on her chest to get rid of all those age spots and wrinkles. I’ve had CO2 laser done on my face so I have a bit of experience with this. It took about a week for all of the little marks to go away on me. That tells me that Angela either got it done on her way to the airport or she’s not healing very well. You’d better believe I was advised to stay out of the sun and wear sunscreen—neither of which Angela seems to be doing. But then she is still smoking and that’s crappy for healing so her whole trip to the dermatologist was a wasted effort, in my humble opinion.

And here I said to the hubs, “Angela had her tattoos taken off”.  Didn’t she have tattoos all over her chest and back?

[shouldbedancing]

So Tania hired a tattoo artist to do live tattoos at the wedding? That explains why they didn't have a photographer...

[hookedontv]

6 minutes ago, shouldbedancing said:

So Tania hired a tattoo artist to do live tattoos at the wedding? That explains why they didn't have a photographer...

Priorities.

She's so unconvential (gag) that she has to keep trying to prove it to everybody! 

Tania and Singin are no Pam Anderson & Tommy Lee....

[Mrs. Hanson]

7 minutes ago, shouldbedancing said:

So Tania hired a tattoo artist to do live tattoos at the wedding? That explains why they didn't have a photographer...

And she cancelled the photographer without telling her mate.  Now that is teamwork, people!!!

[ethalfrida]

Muriel, lol. Too funny.

Tania is so annoying I put it on mute until their scenes were done. She tries to be edgy but what she doesn’t realize is edgy people don’t know they are. It isn’t contrived. 

Anny is one sexy woman, I love the way she speaks. And she has connected with little Robert so well. Juliana has a lovely personality also. Both these women are just naturally appealing.

I have met couples like Michael and Angela. I volunteered to take promo shots for a Reggae band and met them at the home where one of them stayed. As I remember the wife was just like Angela, blond, tall, heavy but not quite so boisterous. Anyways, Big Ang was kind of cool last night. I don’t care that Michael is in it for the green card.

Jasmine...

 

 

[BradandJanet]

I wonder if Jasimin is worried her face might crack if she smiles. Speaking of faces, why do we need Darcy back to frighten us with her over-processed, bloated visage? 

[Spike]

41 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

And she cancelled the photographer without telling her mate.  Now that is teamwork, people!!!

Well the camera does add ten pounds so I could see why she would want to avoid photos.

[Spike]

9 minutes ago, BradandJanet said:

I wonder if Jasimin is worried her face might crack if she smiles. Speaking of faces, why do we need Darcy back to frighten us with her over-processed, bloated visage? 

Jasmin looked even odder last night. I wonder if she had additional procedures in California.

[hookedontv]

1 hour ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

"I am About to Have a Seizure Sarah"

Dead.

I'm still convinced she's drunk or on drugs 24/7. 

[Palomar]

6 minutes ago, Spike said:

Jasmin looked even odder last night. I wonder if she had additional procedures in California.

Her sister looks and acts much more normal than Jasmin or I should say at least tries to fit in.  Their mother seems more in the Jasmin mold as well. For a young girl to only have ambition to be taken care of her whole life is unbelievable!  

[greekmom]

2 hours ago, Silver Bells said:

I think he’s a little boy in big boys pants.

He seemed shocked when Anna suggested he do the steaming on the suit. Anna may have lost Joey (who is a functioning teenager) but gained a man baby in the process who will want her to cook 3 square meals a day, clean the pee pee off the toliet seat, and basically cater to his every whim. "Anna where spare batteries?"  "Anna where is cola?" "Anna where my slippers?"  "Anna change tv channel for me."

1 hour ago, seacliffsal said:

  Was Anna married to the boys' father?  And, if so, wouldn't this then be her second wedding?  Or is this something else they are trying, unsuccessfully, to hide?  

Anna wasn't married to the kid's dad.

Personally, this was the biggest waste of 2 hours but there was nothing else on as I don't do the Oscars. Juliana had the best wedding dress followed by Anny.  

The reason I don't think that Mursel and Anna went to the courthouse to just get married was probably because they wouldn't have made it in time for their hours of operation.  Seriously, she should have invited a minister or Justice of the Peace, got 2 friends to witness and done it as soon as they got home to get it out of the way. Then she could have planned another wedding with family, friends the whole nine yards and maybe worked on Joey and her mom to attend. 

I won't be expecting much from the Tell All. TLC has frauded me one too many times.