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S07.E04: You Don't Forget Your Past


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12 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

"What type of birth control are you using?"  Asked of someone you've just met?  Ain't none of Grandma's business what Robert's paramour du jour is doing.

Why didn't she ask Robert when HE was going to start using birth control?  He's the one with 5 kids by 4 different women.  

(I was actually asked the birth control question at a job interview in the late 60s when employers thought they had the right to impose their "ownership" of employees all the way up to what happened in employees' bedrooms.  Didn't like it then, don't like it now.) 

I think the question was more "Robert already has 4 other kids that he is struggling to support on top of our grandchild so I would like some assurance that getting him to knock your sad, low rent gold digger womb up is not part of your idiotic plan."

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2 minutes ago, John M said:

I think the question was more "Robert already has 4 other kids that he is struggling to support on top of our grandchild so I would like some assurance that getting him to knock your sad, low rent gold digger womb up is not part of your idiotic plan."

And again, why would that question not be more appropriately addressed to Robert?

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3 minutes ago, John M said:

I think the question was more "Robert already has 4 other kids that he is struggling to support on top of our grandchild so I would like some assurance that getting him to knock your sad, low rent gold digger womb up is not part of your idiotic plan."

Nothing like an ill-planned anchor baby, especially with a man who isn’t rich.

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1 minute ago, BallisticNikki said:

And again, why would that question not be more appropriately addressed to Robert?

Because Robert is the idiot being manipulated, I think it was more of "We know what you are doing, cut it out." warning to her.

Contrary to popular belief many female sex workers are very smart, savvy and powerful in a business in many ways designed to take advantage of them. I wouldn't try and pull a fast one on Grandma, I assure you she has seen plenty of low rent women trying to take advantage of men.  

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47 minutes ago, DaphneCat said:

Even if the whole thing was producer manipulation, the fact that she was giving him crap about using a screwdriver was insane.  I think the concept behind a screwdriver (manual or power) is pretty self explanatory.  She was acting like he'd never actually seen a tool that ran on electricity before.  Plus, they were removing a cabinet - it's not like she even had to trust that he could drive in a screw straight he only had to take them out.

I'm starting to think he's extremely hot and I was really rooting for him lol 💖

3 minutes ago, John M said:

Because Robert is the idiot being manipulated, I think it was more of "We know what you are doing, cut it out." warning to her.

Contrary to popular belief many female sex workers are very smart, savvy and powerful in a business in many ways designed to take advantage of them. I wouldn't try and pull a fast one on Grandma, I assure you she has seen plenty of low rent women trying to take advantage of men.  

Right, it takes one to know one!😂

I was hoping Anny would have dragged grandma's ass all over that park! 🤣(Verbally)

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1 hour ago, gavinmac said:

My point is that in the world of international/Scandinavian online dating and swiping left and right, being a dark skinned man is generally a hindrance compared to being a white skinned man, just like fat is worse than thin, short is worse than tall, old is worse than young, poor is worse than rich, chinless is worse than strong chinned. 

Unless the dark skinned guy makes himself out to be an up and coming musician from LA

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2 hours ago, gavinmac said:

Her immediately falling in love with Blake who just happens to live ten minutes from her sister is quite far fetched when all the circumstances are considered.

Maybe she was focusing her search on a guy living in her sister's area and Blake filled the bill. 

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3 minutes ago, magemaud said:

Maybe she was focusing her search on a guy living in her sister's area and Blake filled the bill. 

I think the producer was hinting at that when he asked wasn't it crazy that her sister lived ten minutes away.

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4 minutes ago, magemaud said:

Maybe she was focusing her search on a guy living in her sister's area and Blake filled the bill. 

I think the producer was hinting at that when he asked wasn't it crazy that her sister lived ten minutes away.

Coincidence? I think NOT! This could be a sisterly plot to get Jasmin over to the States for her modeling career. It would take much longer for Janette to bring her over on a family visa if I recall correctly from Loren and Alexi's plan to bring over his brother. 

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5 hours ago, Adeejay said:

she clearly doesn’t want him to touch her.

I am not understanding how when the person just gets off the plane, and probably left their home the morning before why doesn't the person on the ground get that a hot shower and a nap would be something the person would want to do?  The local person wants to play grab ass the second they come out of the gate...what is that? They can't wait until their soul mate puts on clean clothes or naps for a few hours?  

The Finnish girl (seriously, how bland is she?) looks like she would just lay there to get it over with anyway.  

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4 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I am not understanding how when the person just gets off the plane, and probably left their home the morning before why doesn't the person on the ground get that a hot shower and a nap would be something the person would want to do?  The local person wants to play grab ass the second they come out of the gate...what is that? They can't wait until their soul mate puts on clean clothes or naps for a few hours?  

The Finnish girl (seriously, how bland is she?) looks like she would just lay there to get it over with anyway.  

I would hope that my soulmate would have some clue that after probably after a 12-15 hour flight plus airport time/connections, that except for a short initial greeting, to respect that maybe I would like a hot shower and a couple hours’ nap. And disappear for those few hours.

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18 minutes ago, magemaud said:

Coincidence? I think NOT! This could be a sisterly plot to get Jasmin over to the States for her modeling career. It would take much longer for Janette to bring her over on a family visa if I recall correctly from Loren and Alexi's plan to bring over his brother. 

I think it would take 15 + years for her to bring her sister over on the "family reunification" visa. A K-1 visa takes less than a year.

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1 hour ago, OFDgal said:

I feel like Jasmin is totally scamming Blake.  Didn't he say that he didn't know she was from Finland at first.  It just seems too coincidental that her sister only lives 10 minutes away. 

I am going to watch assuming she ain't there for love.

With Blake, a lot leaves to be determined how legit his career is, and her sister being so close sure is "convenient."

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5 hours ago, gavinmac said:

Aren't you surprised that reasonably attractive, image-conscious young Finnish woman would be so desperate to move to the USA that she would promptly agree to marry a dimwitted, lower class and dark skinned man like Blake who lives with his mom? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Helsinki isn't Kiev. 

*shrug* I don't know about the dark-skinned part. My Finnish cousin married a Kenyan man back in the mid-80s and from what I remember hardly anyone batted an eyelash. And that was almost 40 years ago.

Surprised she would live with a man who lives with his mom, yes.  I don't think she would leave Finland just to live anywhere in the US. 10 minutes from her sister and La-La-Land? Someone wants to be more than just insta-famous.  To each their own. As much as I love Canada, and if I weren't married to my French-Canadian husband whom I adore, I would seriously consider taking advantage of the fact that I qualify for permanent residence status in Finland and move there.

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2 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Bojangles!!!  I thought I hear Mike say it was a tree farm?  Or was I dreaming?  But Mike - here is a tip:  Stop with the stuffed animal idea.   Like a poster said upthread, try an age appropriate gift.  How did seeing a unicorn stuffed animal remind him of her?  Does she walk on all fours?  Does she have a horn coming out of her head?

Dying laughing! Another example of this 35 year old woman behaving like she's a middle schooler with a crush. Who has she been dating all these years, to see everything with fairy sparkles in her eyes? Where is this paragon of virtue now?

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Anny is being 100% ridiculous by being dismissive of porn granny.  You KNOW that's free babysitting and she could have had someone in her corner to watch Bryson while she went to job interviews or just went out for the day.  

*****just watching this scene but I bet Turkish bees are better*****

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Wow, this shed is making me itchy.  

Well luckily syngin is used to being barefoot in the bush and doesn't know what a shed is used for.

LOL, Tania isn't going to help with any of this "work'

LOL...if Tania could have pulled an all nighter and fixed everything....why didn't she do that?

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1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I am not understanding how when the person just gets off the plane, and probably left their home the morning before why doesn't the person on the ground get that a hot shower and a nap would be something the person would want to do?  The local person wants to play grab ass the second they come out of the gate...what is that? They can't wait until their soul mate puts on clean clothes or naps for a few hours?  

The Finnish girl (seriously, how bland is she?) looks like she would just lay there to get it over with anyway.  

1 hour ago, Frozendiva said:

I would hope that my soulmate would have some clue that after probably after a 12-15 hour flight plus airport time/connections, that except for a short initial greeting, to respect that maybe I would like a hot shower and a couple hours’ nap. And disappear for those few hours.

I completely agree with the shower and nap, except that she didn't seem to even want him to put his arm around her.  Wouldn't you think that if you were seeing the person you loved after several month you would at least want them to touch you (in a non-sexual way)?  

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I like Blake's mom!!

When I used to go to clubs/bars whenever a guy said he was a "producer" "actor" "writer" "rapper" I'd ask him what his "paying day job" was. 

I think it's great to have a dream....but even then, I wanted a guy with a solid career backup plan 

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Unpopular opinion but I don't think there is anything wrong with Bryson.  He is a little hyper, but intellectually, he seems normal and conversant.  He doesn't even seem that hyper.  Drascilla was far far FAR worse. 

On another note, will Jasmine's sister melt in the sun? 

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Not too far into the season and I already have a couple on FF: Mursel and Anna. There's just nothing there to be remotely interested in.

Syngin needs to head for the hills ASAP.

I thought Grandma Porn Star was a rude bitch to Anny. I don't think Anny's attitude towards her would have been any different if she was friendly and nice but what a bitch. Have they said what happened with Bryson's mother?

The Ukraine lady has me worried about a scam of some kind in the works. By the time she gets to America, the dude's gonna be flat broke and of course she won't say, "Well, we have to work to get things back in order," but rather, "WTF?? I want stuff."

The guy from LA set off my gaydar immediately. 

The dorky rich guy's wife turned into a total bitchface as soon as the arm candy arrived. Yeah, they're friends, but only when he's not seeing anyone. I thought the conversation about "don't parent" should have taken place away from the kids. 

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So...as I thought Tania is doing absolutely no work.

I take that back....bitching and whining is a thing.  

Tania, you'd be less nervous and things would get done faster if you did things separately. 

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25 minutes ago, configdotsys said:

Not too far into the season and I already have a couple on FF: Mursel and Anna. There's just nothing there to be remotely interested in.

Syngin needs to head for the hills ASAP.

I thought Grandma Porn Star was a rude bitch to Anny. I don't think Anny's attitude towards her would have been any different if she was friendly and nice but what a bitch. Have they said what happened with Bryson's mother?

The Ukraine lady has me worried about a scam of some kind in the works. By the time she gets to America, the dude's gonna be flat broke and of course she won't say, "Well, we have to work to get things back in order," but rather, "WTF?? I want stuff."

The guy from LA set off my gaydar immediately. 

The dorky rich guy's wife turned into a total bitchface as soon as the arm candy arrived. Yeah, they're friends, but only when he's not seeing anyone. I thought the conversation about "don't parent" should have taken place away from the kids. 

I don't remember think porn granny was rude per se, I think she was brusque and to the point because everything anny does will affect Bryson, at least tangentially.  

Everyone should be worried about birth control......if anny and Robert have another kid they will be stretched even more financially thin and anny's priority will likely be her child and not Bryson.  

The two of them are going to alienate their free babysitter and someone who is a stable presence in Bryson's life.  She may be a porn granny, but it doesn't mean she doesn't love Bryson and will fight to protect him.  

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6 hours ago, BallisticNikki said:
11 hours ago, Armchair Critic said:

I know people think Porno Granny was rude, but I think she has seen Robert make mistakes with women (5 children by 4 different mothers) and she doesn't have time for more bullshit so she cut right to the chase. He should not be making more babies he can't pay for on an Uber salary.

That's a conversation to have with him. I don't recall her asking him what types of condoms he is using, either.

Maybe she figures Robert is a lost cause and she would have better luck approaching his girlfriend? I do agree she was too blunt but if I had to deal with Robert I would run out of patience.

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31 minutes ago, configdotsys said:

Have they said what happened with Bryson's mother?

All I recall Robert saying was that one day she "just disappeared." Another time he was describing his "last relationship" (which may or may not have been with Bryson's mother) with a whole list of negative words and that particular ex had put him through Hell. 

There has been some speculation here that Bryson's mother is either in rehab or jail but nothing has been said about that on the show so far. 

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6 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I'm not wild about Tania, but, I don't find her any more annoying than many of the other characters, I mean, cast members on this show.  This guy has to have already known how bossy she is before now, why act so surprised.  And, what's the problem with this strong, able-bodied man helping with the love shack? I would welcome someone staying close to me, so, I did things properly. It is her mom's property.  So convoluted, imo.  If it doesn't go well, then, thank goodness, you now have plenty of proof why you should return home and NOT get married. For me, the shed issue is not nearly as offensive as bringing a stranger into your house with children.  

Oh, not me, I don't like people over my shoulder at all.  Either let me do it or I'll let you do it....and if neither of us trusts the other to do it....let's hire someone we can trust to get it done.

.....but we we aren't going to have someone talking down to me like a child.*

If she wanted an employee, her broke ass should have hired an Andrei before bringing anyone to live with her in that......place....though I suspect he wouldn't like someone over his shoulder telling him how to do his job either.  

*Generic "you" to be clear

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17 minutes ago, Armchair Critic said:

Maybe she figures Robert is a lost cause and she would have better luck approaching his girlfriend? I do agree she was too blunt but if I had to deal with Robert I would run out of patience.

This makes sense, Robert is stubbornly and proudly ignorant.  I'm sure porn granny has tried talking to Robert over the years and it's always fallen on deaf ears.  

I wonder if Bryson is his youngest.

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8 hours ago, sasha206 said:

I'm amazed this guy found 4 women to procreate with.  He's not attractive.  He's doesn't seem to be particularly bright.   He has to have zero in his bank account.

I also think Bryson is a special needs child so it doesn't surprise me his reaction seeing the grandparents.

And one went back for a second kid. Bryson’s special need is a bed of his own.

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7 minutes ago, Apollo said:

They are truly the sweetest, most mature and well-adjusted children!  Their Mom and Dad did an awesome job with them.  I think Julianna is very lucky to get to be around them and doesn't have to deal with bratty children.  I truly hope they do not get hurt in any of this,  His ex-wife seems like a sweetheart too -- so genuine and down to earth.  She seems like she'd make a great friend too.  Wish the family was still together!  

Let’s see how things go when Michael tries to rein in Julianas spending. Michael and his ex may have some money but neither of their homes, clothes or personal appearance scream money.  My guess is he’s gotten into a lot of debt romancing Juliana and she expects that to continue.

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44 minutes ago, juicyfruit said:

I am watching Pillow Talk and the cast have also all noticed the straight-faced Finnish sisters.  Perhaps this will give some insight (credit to Very Finnish Problems website):

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I seriously need to move there. 

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4 hours ago, John M said:

I think the question was more "Robert already has 4 other kids that he is struggling to support on top of our grandchild so I would like some assurance that getting him to knock your sad, low rent gold digger womb up is not part of your idiotic plan."

Do we have any links to prove that he spends a penny on them?  When he was complaining to NAnny in the thrift store, he commented that she didn't understand that she has to pay for "the house" (which looks like an apartment to me) and the car (and I think he mentioned food).  He didn't mention child support, which one would think would be a big monthly expense . . . if he's paying it.

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8 hours ago, Adeejay said:

Syngin seems to have definite ideas of how he wants to live life in the USA.

It almost seems like one of his definite ideas is “live in a dwelling zoned for residential use”. Who does he think he is?! 

7 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Pass on the Trojans and get thee to a urologist and get snipped.  Today.  "Yeah, I was a player back in the day......" I guess that is code for wearing Zubas and getting multiple women pregnant.

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7 hours ago, shouldbedancing said:

How did Anna and Mursel pass the K1 Visa test proving they know each other and have a relationship?

I imagine the two of them having a lot of handwritten correspondence on, like, parchment scrolls, and it seemed romantic enough to disguise the fact that it was only necessary because THESE TWO IDIOTS CAN’T TALK TO EACH OTHER.

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8 hours ago, Drogo said:

I can't fault Grandma for being an adult film actress; she may have been a single mom and that was the most accommodating job she could find and didn't mind the work, who knows what the circumstances were when she got into it and it's her decision.  We all have jobs and none of us are defined by ours.   

As Bryson's grandmother and mother figure though I think she had every right to want to talk to Anny and I don't think she asked her any "very personal questions"- Anny's just an asshole.    

Also, it wouldn't shock me if Grandma is providing the majority of financial support to Robert and Bryson.  She didn't seem worried at all about being cut out of his life despite having no custodial claim to him.  

It doesn't get much more personal than asking another about her use (or not) of birth control measures.

I,  for one, was and always will be  defined by my job: I taught English close to half my life. My late husband was the department chairman. Books fill my home. And I'm a Grammar Nazi!  

As for judging Porn Granny: Maybe she could refrain from casting that first stone. She says "cordial" like a Southerner would say "Bless your heart."

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1 hour ago, RealReality said:

Why can't Robert upload these photos to a flash drive?

Why should he?  She won’t share her past and he has to erase his?  Sorry, not sorry.  They are unsuited for each other and she needs to head back to DR and try some other guy.  Seriously, she is inappropriate and nasty about it.

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5 hours ago, BallisticNikki said:

She can have whatever preferences she wants. But she has no right to impose any of them on Michael when the kids are with him. That's his parenting time and he can and should do what he thinks is best. 

parenting involves both parents, and each should respect the general rules they have decided on together. I get that he can decide what fun activities they will do while at his house, or what dinners he wants to cook. But general expectations such as bedtimes, TV limitations, etc should be decided jointly and consistent between both homes. Kids need that consistency, and if there are parameters that a parent feels strongly about, the other parent should respect that (and vice versa).

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10 hours ago, sasha206 said:

I'm amazed this guy found 4 women to procreate with.  He's not attractive.  He's doesn't seem to be particularly bright.   He has to have zero in his bank account.

I also think Bryson is a special needs child so it doesn't surprise me his reaction seeing the grandparents.

She’s no better.  She comes here thinking she will shop designer clothes until she drops.  He gives her fancy sexy undies ..then he gets sex.  What the hell? She’s got an attitude to boot.  Anne is here for the buck he does not have.  He wants sex, someone to cook and watch his child.  She wants clothes and night life.  It ain’t gonna work.  Send her and her attitude back.

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6 hours ago, Mr. Miner said:

WA is a legal weed state, just develop a unique popular strain of weed and watch the money roll in.

I live in WA and frequent the local pot shop fairly often. The market is pretty saturated as far as growing goes. Also, to grow good, high octane pot, you need to make an investment in expensive lights and other equipment if you're going to do it on a scale larger than growing a few plants for yourself. But, Sequim is called the banana belt of WA and has a long growing season for being in the western half of the state. Michael could grow a decent crop outside during the summer to supplement his income. I'm sure uncle Bojangles could supply a customer base!

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1 hour ago, Apollo said:

BINGO!  Yes, she ordered him around like he was her new slave. 

If she was that strapped for time and I highly doubt that, all she had to do was drop off all those clothes at a laundry service and have it all washed and folded for her into neat little bags,  Bam, half the place would have been cleared with that one move.  Then, she could have at least vacuumed in there, aired it out and arranged a few things so it looked decent.  ... and, God forbid, put some flowers and candles in her 90-day fiance "love shack" to show him that she wants to welcome him.  Has she even cooked for him yet???  She is just useless as a girlfriend so far. 

Also, she KNEW this dirty shack would be seen on national TV too!  That ONE FACT alone would get at least 90% of the women in America to hustle their asses and get it done,.  LOL

It's just her level of self-importance is so aggravating, like she is the one person in the world that has been asked to both work and keep a tidy house, and not even a house at that, it's a shed.

I work, my husband works, we both have stressful, complicated jobs with LOTS OF PAPERWORK, we have bills, two dogs, a cat, we have no domestic help, a 3 bedroom home, a good size yard and you know what...?

Our yard is done, the animals are fed, the laundry and dishes are clean and put away, the bed is made, trash bins have been moved where they belong, we cook dinner almost every night, like, actually cook in the oven or on the stove, not frozen food, there are fresh cut flowers in the house. Yes it's time consuming, yes sometimes it isn't fun but we do it because we are fucking grown ups.

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16 minutes ago, brillia79 said:

Seeing Anny’s pouting/nastiness whenever she can’t go shopping for Chanel and caviar the way she wants us to believe she did in the Dominican Republic, I have zero issues envisioning her mistreat Bryson if she has a kid of her own. She’s 100 percent “That Bitch.” So while I do think grandma’s questions about birth control were very personal, I suspect grandma knows a scammer when she sees one. 
 

I’m also not here for Anny judging grandma as having no morals for being a porn actress. What the fuck does Anny thing she was doing when she was banging a broke stranger who made a pit stop while on a cruise? Or when she was modeling cheap, ill fitting lingerie before sexing up her 20 second fiancé in hopes of securing the empty money bag known as Robert?

The only difference between Anny and Granny is that the cameramen left Robert’s room before she slept with him in exchange for money.

Work on yourself, babe.

Brilliant 

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5 minutes ago, brillia79 said:

Seeing Anny’s pouting/nastiness whenever she can’t go shopping for Chanel and caviar the way she wants us to believe she did in the Dominican Republic, I have zero issues envisioning her mistreat Bryson if she has a kid of her own. She’s 100 percent “That Bitch.” So while I do think grandma’s questions about birth control were very personal, I suspect grandma knows a scammer when she sees one. 
 

I’m also not here for Anny judging grandma as having no morals for being a porn actress. What the fuck does Anny thing she was doing when she was banging a broke stranger who made a pit stop while on a cruise? Or when she was modeling cheap, ill fitting lingerie before sexing up her 20 second fiancé in hopes of securing the empty money bag known as Robert?

The only difference between Anny and Granny is that the cameramen left Robert’s room before she slept with him in exchange for money.

Work on yourself, babe.

Exactly! Granny makes money (and is probably paid quite well) having sex in front of a camera crew. It's her job and she isn't ashamed of what she does for a living. She loves her grandson and doesn't want any harm to come to him.

Anny has sex with a guy for cheap lingerie and the hope of a green card. But, she isn't honest about it. She expects people to believe she was living the high life in the DR and is only in the US because she fell madly in love with Robert and left her Chanel lifestyle for him. She can lose me with her holier than thou act. She needs to take some acting lessons from grandma so she can pretend she's not a raging bitch 24/7.

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