Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[GHScorpiosRule]

9 minutes ago, Kim0820 said:

I can tell who PSO is, but what does it stand for?

Pure Sainted One.😜

[Suicidy]

On 3/13/2023 at 12:42 PM, statsgirl said:

The best part were the Mac/Kevin and Laura/Felicia scenes. I's like they were from a different, more nuanced show.

Does Carly run the hospital now? Did I miss this development? Because if she isn't, she has no right telling Victor where he can go. I also did appreciated her riding her white horse to Liz's defence when Liz can handle Victor just fine by herself.

If I were Nina, I wouldn't report Carly right now, but I'd let her know that if she doesn't mind herself, it will be done. Nina is far too nice/weak dealing with Carly.

Joss telling Bobbie not to ask Cameron to perform seemed more like Joss avoiding bad feelings for what she did to Cam than genuine concern for Cam. Maybe Cameron would enjoy being able to perform after the crappy time he's had.

He also came off as pretty smarmy with Nina too in a 180 plot contrivance just so that Nina would not report him and Carly to the SEC.

It’s very important for Carly to shoehorn herself into things that don’t involve her so she can be a badass and be everyone’s savior.  

[mostlylurking]

Yeah I don’t like everyone trying to take the baby away from Esme either. She’s been duped by both Spencer and Nikolas, learned about Elizabeth’s role in her kidnapping, knows pretty much the entire town hates her, etc. why should she trust anyone?

ps I can’t tell if she’s faking or not which is a credit to AP. She’s really straddling the fence with her delivery. It’s keeping me guessing (probably keeping the writers guessing too until they decide which way they are going with this). 

[CeChase]

Well, Esme did some truly awful things.  I mean she drugged a man into a coma, right?  Am I imagining that?  She set fire to Ava's car, she left a picture of her dead daughter on the scene.  That last part is really highly disturbing.  She set Trina up for a crime that could have landed Trina in prison for years.  Revenge porn is not a joke legally.  So I think questioning her fitness as a mother is totally normal.  If this was going on in my family I don't know what I'd do, but I also can't say what I wouldn't do. 

[Auntie Velvet]

On 3/14/2023 at 3:01 PM, Daisy said:

Who is Leslie?

Who is Leslie?!! Now I feel about 100 years old ;) 

[Auntie Velvet]

Catching up on the last couple of days. Like all of you, I had my heart ripped out by Kevin's quiet, eloquent grief. That suffering was evident even today in the scenes at Spring Ridge with Esme and Ace. JL and GF should do a lot more together. (As with Nina and Sonny, it's kind of neat that Kevin and Laura are a later-in-life couple that can share their love and concern over a grandchild -- just to shorthand it -- that they have in common.) 

Just some thoughts on Cody, who I've never minded much and now pretty much like. I don't know if it's deliberate, but these first months of him on the show are very much like Mac's when he first came to PC, right down to the (literally) splashy entrances. Also, when Mac first arrived, he was all charm and swagger, and set about ingratiating himself with Robin, Anna, etc., much to Robert's dismay.

Anyway, if they'd just get the ball moving with the paternity reveal, and perhaps a romance with Sasha now that Brit's exited, I think he could be a solid addition to the cast of characters.

[mostlylurking]

34 minutes ago, CeChase said:

Well, Esme did some truly awful things.  I mean she drugged a man into a coma, right?  Am I imagining that?  She set fire to Ava's car, she left a picture of her dead daughter on the scene.  That last part is really highly disturbing.  She set Trina up for a crime that could have landed Trina in prison for years.  Revenge porn is not a joke legally.  So I think questioning her fitness as a mother is totally normal.  If this was going on in my family I don't know what I'd do, but I also can't say what I wouldn't do. 

Oh I totally agree she has committed very dangerous and disturbing crimes. Unfortunately the ones who are trying to take her baby aren’t exactly bastions of morality either, especially the baby’s father who already abandoned one child in his lifetime. Laura also abandoned a child which I know wasn’t entirely in her control but it happened.

In the future I could see things getting sticky with this kid, but right now he’s an infant who does nothing but eat and sleep and Esme seems capable of handling that bare minimum. Especially at spring ridge where she literally has nothing else to do. 

[ciarra]

42 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

In the future I could see things getting sticky with this kid, but right now he’s an infant who does nothing but eat and sleep and Esme seems capable of handling that bare minimum

And apparently Olivia is the only woman in Port Charles history who did not bottle feed.

[GHScorpiosRule]

57 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

Laura also abandoned a child which I know wasn’t entirely in her control but it happened.

Laura abandoning Baby Nikolas was a retcon. One that worked, but it was a retcon. That said, there is nothing comparable to what Laura did and what Nik did.

I feel like a broken record this week, but here goes:

Alexis can STFU and take several seats. When she was going through her issues, be it aftermath of Neil’s death-murder, her blink-and-you-missed-it-Osteoporosis, and drinking, she shut EVERYONE out. What she did was butt into Gonzo’s business that she had no right to do. And now she’s all offended and outraged that he “LIED” to her.

Shut up, Alexis.

GOOD GOD, Spencer is acting like such an entitled piece of shit.

STFU, miniSheBeast.

What Cam said wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be. But I still wish he’d hold onto his anger.

Edited March 15, 2023 by GHScorpiosRule

[TVbitch]

I will miss Cam. He is my fav of the younger set. I hope when WL comes back they give him a big story ...but less makeup. Sometimes he has more blush on than Joss!

Seriously, when Esme was holding the baby today, his head was bigger than hers. Maybe he is some kind of super hero Xbaby.

Dex is a mob enforcer who got grazed by a bullet in a warehouse shoot out. Then Joss calls: "Where are you?! Like, didn't you get my text?!?!

 

[Katy M]

I'm a day behind and I missed the second half of Monday.  Did Dex hire the hit man so that he could save Sonny?  If so, I hope he feels really really really bad about his death.  Also, seems a wee bit risky as far as plans go.

I don't know why everyone was so sure Nina was going to be anti-NB.  And since they thought this, they should have had Sasha ask her.

And, what's Bobbie's beef with Nina?  Is it just because of Carly?  bobbie used to compartmentalize better back in the '80s.

It's so funny.  Just last week I had remembered HOlly giving Mrs. Wu something to put in Valentine's drink and wondered whatever happened with that.  Guess now I know.  Or, not.  I'm not really sure what's wrong with Valentine.  Finn didn't seem overly concerned.  

so, Brook mentions Drew singing and they put in the Magic Milo show which doesn't involve singing.  Sounds about right.

 

[Suicidy]

On 3/13/2023 at 4:21 PM, ljr said:

Why do the writers think we want to watch a story about Mr. Sheffield having ed? Ick

Or his potential recovery (ick).

On 3/13/2023 at 12:59 PM, dubbel zout said:

Oh, look, a shootout where neither Sonny nor Dex is hit. How thrilling.

Why was Ned bringing Scout to the Qs? (I know it was for the plot point for him to hear Scout talk about Drewfus and Carly [which wasn't followed up on at all, naturally], but otherwise?)

They were so, so good. Everything those characters were feeling and saying was completely right. It proves what can happen when you use history properly in the show.

Of course Ava has the SEC in her contacts list. LOL.

"You got enough friends I can count them on one hand and have a finger leftover." "I hope you know what finger I'm saving for you." Hee.

I'm glad Laura shut him down. That faux innocent "I'm only doing this for you!" was so gross. It also came across as patronizing: "Let me take these complicated money matters off your hands, little lady!" Ugh.

Laura manages to do her job as mayor at least marginally well.  Like she couldn’t understand ELQ financial reports.  At most she would just talk to a friend or colleague in finance to explain some details she might not get.

[Suicidy]

On 3/13/2023 at 8:14 PM, Steph J said:

Joss is such a little sociopath. Carly had more of a reaction to Liz's joke that Jason would never have slept with Esme than Joss did to Bobbi bringing up Britt's death.

Did Carly Jr. ever offer her sympathy to Olbrecht, or show gratitude about her daughter saving her life?

On 3/14/2023 at 4:30 AM, Kim0820 said:

 

Soap opera plot convenience so people can run into each other at the hospital. There are no clinics or general or special practices.  All is done at the hospital.  

That’s why half the cast not only hangs out at the docks, but only dock for the whole port.  And they all dine at two or three restaurants.

[Suicidy]

On 3/14/2023 at 5:48 AM, GHScorpiosRule said:

Requoting again because I watched this after reading your comment, and honestly, there aren't enough RAGE meme or emojis to FULLY EXPRESS my rage at those scenes.

First, why Cujo decided it was any of her FUCKING business to charge in when...oh wait. Right. Because that's how she rolls. I FUCKING HATE Frank, O'Connor and whoever wrote this craptastic shitfest of dialogue.

Second, Elizabeth should have told Cujo it was NONE OF HER FUCKING BUSINESS. But nooooo. She had to go confess what she had done, and then let that harridan use Jason as a pillar of honesty and loyalty. Fuck HER. SheBeast, I mean. And when she smugly handed back that oh so OBVIOUS picture of Jeff and Caroline that was taken recently, instead of when they were younger, Elizabeth should have hauled off and smacked her. Yeah, I said it. She should have done it after she said "this was such a violation" and not fucking THANKED her, as if Cujo had done Elizabeth some grand favor.

And no, FRANK. These two are NOTHING alike.

Oh and DO STFU, Cody. Your paaaaaaaaaaain is one of your own selfish making. YOU wanted the Ice Princess and steal off with the money it would gain you, instead of admitting Mac is your father, and then you act like an entitled ARSEHOLE of the first order when he almost sees the DNA results. Why is carrying it around like a lock of his sweetheart's hair? Does he want Mac to find it again and then "disown" his con-ass ASS?

The scenes with Laura, Kevin, Mac, and Felicia made up for it, though. Awesome Writer clearly snuck in. And I loved the scenes with Laura and Pod!Drew. I cackled at his dumfounded "huh?" look when Laura refused to sell.

And no, Nina. Pod!Drew is NOT a nice guy, because he also FUCKING COLLUDED in insider trading. For someone who's supposed to be business savvy, she's so FUCKING STOOPID.

Well at least Bobbie correctly explained how the Nurses Ball has always been about funding to help with research/cure for AIDS/HIV.

And yes, please, MiniSheBeast-DO ALSO STFU about Cam and LUKE. Like you gave any blue-dilly fucks about him when he was alive. I did like how Jackie did that impersonation of Luke calling her "Barbara Jean" though. Because I could hear him say just that.

I would love it if they DID get nailed for insider trading.  I would send them to prison and bankrupt both of them.  They could introduce new characters who are Aurora shareholders who sue Dwefus and SheBeast.  Who will replace them after they are shipped off to Pentonville.

[Suicidy]

On 3/14/2023 at 9:22 AM, ffwbe said:

I don’t think Valentin should be in charge of ELQ but I find Drew attempting to swindle a preteen Charlotte out of ELQ shares to be equally gross if not worse. He just wants control for himself. I doubt he’s going to hand Brook Lynn back her shares because she might not vote with him. If it was truly about family, then he’d be offering to split the shares equally amongst all of them but he wants them all to himself. 

Also, aren’t ELQ shares supposed to be extremely valuable? How does he have enough money to afford close to half of them when last year, he was desperately trying to sell off Aurora assets in order to have the funds to buy Carly’s half of the MC back for her? They’ve already said that Aurora is not anywhere close in value to ELQ. 

Valentin owns a plurality of the ELQ shares.  Which should worth billions collectively.  It was never explained how he pulled that off.  And they aren’t going to explain how Drewfus could possibly afford them.  Which would also require SEC approval.   Which would not be a given.

Edited March 16, 2023 by Suicidy

[Daisy]

2 hours ago, Auntie Velvet said:

Who is Leslie?!! Now I feel about 100 years old ;) 

LOL okay to be fair when i first saw it i was like - but Leslie IS Monica why would she fight herself. that's why i asked. LOL. i forgot about Leslie (Laura's mom) and Monica going at it back in the day 

 

16 minutes ago, Suicidy said:

Did Carly Jr. ever offer her sympathy to Olbrecht, or show gratitude about her daughter saving her life?

 

no. no one knows that britt died saving baby shrew. 

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Alexis can STFU and take several seats. When she was going through her issues, be it aftermath of Neil’s death-murder, her blink-and-you-missed-it-Osteoporosis, and drinking, she shut EVERYONE out. What she did was butt into Gonzo’s business that she had no right to do. And now she’s all offended and outraged that he “LIED” to her.

 

that bothered me. and the thing is if someone did that to alexis she would have a collective fit (rightfully so). Daddy Chase  shouldn't have lied  but Alexis shouldn't have called, been upset that she was lied to and basically glare at him because they are SUCH best friends how dare she go into his business. 

[Suicidy]

On 3/14/2023 at 11:25 AM, ffwbe said:

I swear that they’re manufacturing drama with Nina now. They’re just assuming that she wouldn’t allow them to have the NB at the MC so they can bitch about it. This is stupid. Why wouldn’t Maxie just ask her since she’s planning the damn thing and they are close  

I found that strange too.  And there is no way Nina would say no.  Specially since she’s dating Sonny and he’s such a huge booster because of Robin and Stone.,

[GHScorpiosRule]

4 minutes ago, Daisy said:

okay to be fair when i first saw it i was like - but Leslie IS Monica why would she fight herself. that's why i asked. LOL. i forgot about Leslie (Laura's mom)

Well, it’s a small thing, but Denise Alexander who plays Laura’s mom, spells her name as Lesley. 

[Suicidy]

On 3/14/2023 at 12:00 PM, Bringonthedrama said:

I think you did a good job! 😂 I really like the Cut You gif 🤣

The writers creating a scenario of Carly attempting friendship with Elizabeth reminds me of how much I miss her real friendship with Robin and Patrick. The three actors had such terrific chemistry!!

Now Carly's just letting herself into the Q mansion and Maxie tells her she's "essential" ?! WTF?!?!  Does no one remember her ugly put-downs to Robin about being HIV+?! These writers are such jerks.

Carly and Bobbie (and off-screen Olivia) are acting like teenage bratty girls with all the "oh no we have to ask evil Nina if she'll agree with Olivia to give us the Metro Court for the Nurse's Ball" is worthy of multiple vomit emojis. It's really a sad day when Maxie Jones has to be the mature woman in the room.

So Anna gets to tell us that Robin "is sad" she won't be at the NB this year.  I don't care that Anna is also "sad" - she went to the NB what, once, to support Robin?  I want to know why it doesn't seem to even occur to Maxie to mention talking to Robin about participating/contributing in some way. Instead, the focus is alll on the Carly + groupies tension with Nina. UGHHH!!!

Victor informing Dr. Finn he knows about his relationship with Nurse Baldwin. 🙄 Welll good for you, Vic. Maybe instead focus on what Dr. Finn has to say about your health issue!!

 

They should just retitle it ‘The Carly Show, with Sonny’.

[GHScorpiosRule]

2 minutes ago, Suicidy said:

I found that strange too.  And there is no way Nina would say no.  Specially since she’s dating Sonny and he’s such a huge booster because of Robin and Stone.,

Not only that, but Nina, when played by Michelle Stafford, pretty much tried to take over as Emcee of the Ball. I remember her drooling over Jax during their “red carpet” interviews. There’s NO WAY Nina would have said no or been against it. So Olivia, Cujo, and Bobbie can just FUCK RIGHT OFF.

[Suicidy]

On 3/10/2023 at 2:37 PM, statsgirl said:

Apparently not since he just offered all of Aurora's resources to Maxie to publicize the Nurses' Ball. That said, the recent Nurses' Balls with their ordinary people on the red carpets and no-talent performances have seemed more to me like a high school prom than a big time fundraising event.

I think the suspense is whether Sonny will 'adopt' Dex as a son, and how will he react when Dex betrays him. Zzzzzzz

Did Sasha just completely forgive Gladys for selling Brando's shop? What is the suspense here?

Carly telling Joss all the bad things about dating a mobster while hiding her own relationship with Drew because she knows they did wrong (although she would never admit it) seems peak hypocrisy.

It’s basically a watered amalgamation of Jason becoming a mobster with the Dante undercover storyline.  FFS, just bring back the vampires.  And maybe a werewolf.  
 

(I’ve been rewatching Dark Shadows on Prime lately)

[Katy M]

18 minutes ago, Daisy said:

no. no one knows that britt died saving baby shrew. 

not no one.  Dante, Carly, Diane, Dex.

[Suicidy]

On 3/14/2023 at 1:18 PM, PatsyandEddie said:

I have a feeling that Lucy is going to make a grand entrance at the Ball. 
Wow, apple didn’t fall far from the tree with Bobbie and Carly. Throw Joss in and you have the three witches from MacBeth. 
I am planning to FF through any upcoming Dex and Joss scenes. She’s going to be even more insufferable than usual. 🤮

That’s completely unfair.  I find the three witches from Macbeth to be delightful and charming in comparison.  In fact, there’s an idea for replacing the Carly ‘s.  They’ve already done vampires, so witches shouldn’t be a problem.

[Artsda]

How nice of Spencer to make Cams announcement all about him and his anger.

 I'm glad Esme kept the baby, Laura was going to move Spencer in that house the second she gets Ace. Esme shouldn't trust her.  

They should make Kristina the mafia princess in training. Take over for Sonny.  Interesting she and Dex interacting and he listened in, triangle? The one that is on Sonny's side versus the one who isn't. 

Can't Spencer get his own place to live with his trust fund? Instead he needs be rude to Sonny's people in Sonny's house?

[Suicidy]

11 hours ago, rur said:

I'm still hoping for something really soapy like Willow being hit by a meteor* on her way to the hospital. 

 

* because falling crane has already been used, 

Maybe she could fall down an elevator shaft, like Diana Muldaur on LA Law.

[Blackie]

7 minutes ago, Artsda said:

Interesting she and Dex interacting and he listened in, triangle? The one that is on Sonny's side versus the one who isn't. 

 

Triangle, oh I thought you meant with Joss. I was kind of getting a vibe that Sonny was going to get Dex to ask Kristina out to make her feel better about herself and then Krissy falls for Dex and Dex has to pretend he is with Kris to keep Sonny happy. Joss and Dex have to stay secret for longer.

 

[rur]

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Alexis can STFU and take several seats. When she was going through her issues, be it aftermath of Neil’s death-murder, her blink-and-you-missed-it-Osteoporosis, and drinking, she shut EVERYONE out. What she did was butt into Gonzo’s business that she had no right to do. And now she’s all offended and outraged that he “LIED” to her.

Probably the first thought of anyone else hearing about that situation would have been that Gonzo was lying to avoid telling Alexis he didn't really want the job she was offering. That this occurred to no one in Port Charles is not surprising. 

But after today's episode, with his nearly passing out and slurred speech, I imagine we're going to find out he's got a tumor of some kind. 

[Mirabelle]

Maybe whatever infected Victor also infected Gregory but has manifested itself differently. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

15 minutes ago, Mirabelle said:

Maybe whatever infected Victor also infected Gregory but has manifested itself differently. 

Not unless Ms.Wu has also been poisoning Gonzo as well. And there’s no reason for her to do so since the deal she made with Holly, was to poison Victor.

[statsgirl]

So many people feeling ill ... they have to be moving to something, right?

7 hours ago, Daisy said:

I will say Laura wants that. but she doesn't (rightly) want the baby to be in prison. I did trust her in saying that basically once Esme got released, they would give her back the baby.esp if she does go to Pentonville or something. having a contingency plan is not a bad idea there. (and once Esme said no,Laura respected that decision which was tres awesome)

We the audience know Laura. But if I were Esmè, having just found out who her parents are and that Laura's son kept her a prisoner and Laura's grandson is trying to take her baby away, I wouldn't trust Laura not to argue that Esmè is not a fit parent and that she and her husband should continue to have the baby live with them.

7 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Huh? Regarding the bolded.

I should have said that Spencer makes it about himself, and I didn't notice that my computer cut a chunk out, including Spencer telling Cameron that there must be more to why he is leaving for Stanford, hinting that we would find out about Joss and Dex. But no, Spencer assumes that Cameron is leaving because Esmè ruined his life and goes off on a rant about her.

This is so stupid. Why shouldn't Cameron go to a top tier university? Especially when he's going on a soccer scholarship?

6 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I see these points, for sure, but it still irks me that if Michael brought up this situation to Sonny, he'd probably urge Michael to live his dreams, and do practical all the work for him. Or have his people do all the work.

When does Michael himself work? He seems to have infinite time to talk to Dex and take care of Wylie.

Certainly Sonny would have said that when he was with Carly. But this is the Sonny who is with Nina so maybe he's changed because he was right in what he told Kristina.

4 hours ago, CeChase said:

Well, Esme did some truly awful things.  I mean she drugged a man into a coma, right? 

And Portia secretly drugged him right out of it, with Curtis' help and we're supposed to think that they are the good guys.

3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Alexis can STFU and take several seats. When she was going through her issues, be it aftermath of Neil’s death-murder, her blink-and-you-missed-it-Osteoporosis, and drinking, she shut EVERYONE out.

What she did then was very self-destructive. Maybe she's trying to prevent Gregory from going down the same path. She doesn't demand that he talk to her, just tell someone for support.

2 hours ago, Suicidy said:

Did Carly Jr. ever offer her sympathy to Olbrecht, or show gratitude about her daughter saving her life?

Far from showing gratitude, she still hasn't told Obrecht or anyone except Dante that she was the person that Britt died to save. Joss has moved on so everyone shut up about it.

1 hour ago, Artsda said:

They should make Kristina the mafia princess in training. Take over for Sonny.  Interesting she and Dex interacting and he listened in, triangle? The one that is on Sonny's side versus the one who isn't.

I don't think that it was about Kristina at all. It was about Dex, Joss' boyfriend and Michael's pawn, realizing that Sonny isn't the bad guy that he thought he is.

There is a story in there about Dex being conflicted and having to decide what to do but the actor has the acting ability of a block of wood. He makes WL and NAC look like Oscar contenders.

[ciarra]

3 hours ago, TVbitch said:

Dex is a mob enforcer who got grazed by a bullet in a warehouse shoot out.

And suddenly he's too weak to hold up a shirt.  I've had paper cuts that have bled more.  What a wimp.  Let's compare him to Esme, who birthed a 6 month old baby on the floor, without an epidural.

[Daisy]

56 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

This is so stupid. Why shouldn't Cameron go to a top tier university? Especially when he's going on a soccer scholarship?

he could - but i do think some of the points Spencer made was valid - including the one that Cam did love playing soccer for PCU. and alot of people do choose not to go to a far off school (even with a scholarship) because the programme is still just as strong at a local school as much as it is at an Ivy. 

also i feel a bit of that rant is that he is going to lose his best friend and cousin.  very admittedly sometimes my first reaction is not "Oh yay!" if something happened with my friend and it results in them going far far away lol 

[GHScorpiosRule]

38 minutes ago, Daisy said:

he could - but i do think some of the points Spencer made was valid - including the one that Cam did love playing soccer for PCU. and alot of people do choose not to go to a far off school (even with a scholarship) because the programme is still just as strong at a local school as much as it is at an Ivy. 

also i feel a bit of that rant is that he is going to lose his best friend and cousin.  very admittedly sometimes my first reaction is not "Oh yay!" if something happened with my friend and it results in them going far far away lol 

Except that Cam’s original choice was Stanford. He GAVE UP that scholarship to go to PCU after Franco died. So if he managed to get another scholarship, why not go? And it’s not like these decisions happen within weeks. He had to have applied before miniCujo dumped him. Then again, this is SoapoperaLand, so Cam probably applied in January and got the scholarship within a month.

Spencer can whine until the cows come home. Dude has money to burn and doesn’t care about higher education. His choice. But Cam does. It’s Cam’s life.

[Daisy]

7 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Spencer can whine until the cows come home. Dude has money to burn and doesn’t care about higher education. His choice. But Cam does. It’s Cam’s life.

I don't ever recall Spencer saying he doesn't care about higher education.  And while yes, Stanford was his first choice and he chose to stay at home, it doesn't change the fact that he did like playing at PCU. All I was saying was that Spencer's points do ring a tick true because I feel if Esme didn't interfere and if the Joss thing didn't happen, does Cam apply? (or does he accept if he was reached out to etc). probably not (I mean we'll never know)  - and this is probably setting up Spencer finding out about the Dumpster Relationship.

As I said, I think Spencer's outburst did have a tiny tinge of truth to it. Is it 50/50 - most likely not. but maybe even 10/90. If he starts talking Cam out of NOT going, or saying it's a stupid decision, then yeah for sure, he needs to hush. but i am not going to get grouchy at the guy for finding out his best friend is leaving town, and having a thought that it might not just be all about the opportunity when there is a lot of evidence that does show it could have other factors behind it as well, that's all. 

[mbluecpa]

2 hours ago, statsgirl said:

So many people feeling ill ... they have to be moving to something, right?

I like this angle.  Finn was talking in such vague terms about how focused the pathogen is so maybe that’s why.  Of course maybe the writers just think it’s cute to talk around the word ‘penis,’ who knows?  Something mysteriously affecting a chunk of Port Charles in different ways might be more entertaining than a cheeky “Victor can’t get it up” story.

1 hour ago, ciarra said:

And suddenly he's too weak to hold up a shirt.  I've had paper cuts that have bled more.  What a wimp.  Let's compare him to Esme, who birthed a 6 month old baby on the floor, without an epidural.

Besides a reason for Dex and Spencer to be roomies and to keep Dex and Carly Jr apart, I’m guessing the bullet-graze will also be an excuse for Dex to be shirtless in the next few episodes.  

More Kristina, please.  While the content of their scene wasn’t really plot-related, I thought that was the most chemistry I’ve seen from MB with a screen partner in a while.

[racked]

9 hours ago, CeChase said:

Well, Esme did some truly awful things.  I mean she drugged a man into a coma, right?  Am I imagining that?  She set fire to Ava's car, she left a picture of her dead daughter on the scene.  That last part is really highly disturbing.  She set Trina up for a crime that could have landed Trina in prison for years.  Revenge porn is not a joke legally.  So I think questioning her fitness as a mother is totally normal.  If this was going on in my family I don't know what I'd do, but I also can't say what I wouldn't do. 

I enjoy amnesiac Esme and it’s a soap so I can suspend disbelief of most anything, but seriously. Esme was many different flavors of awful, Spencer still (rationally) doesn’t trust that she’s actually lost her memory, and she just busted out of jail with her two serial killer parents. Pushing for custody here is not a wild thing to do. 

[Asp Burger]

The writing is always telling us that one of Sonny's kids is like him...and expecting us to forget that we hear that about all of them. When Sonny was "dead," we had that scene of Dante visiting Carly and hearing how much he was like Sonny. We heard a lot about how MoreGun was the most like him when the bipolar story was going on. And didn't Willow recently tell Mykill that even though they aren't biologically related, he and Sonny are so much alike?  

Today it was Kristina's turn. "Of all my kids, she's the most like me."

[kitmerlot1213]

11 hours ago, ciarra said:

And suddenly he's too weak to hold up a shirt.  I've had paper cuts that have bled more.  What a wimp.  Let's compare him to Esme, who birthed a 6 month old baby on the floor, without an epidural.

THIS!  Dex acts so differential with Sonny but now he's trying to stare down Spencer like he's some kind of tough guy?  

And did I hear Cam correctly?  Joss has always hated Sonny and the mob life?  SInce when?  She'd still be Sonny's biggest supporter if he was still married to Carly.

I'd like to take a minute to say how impressed I am with the ease the actress playing Esme has with the baby playing Ace.  She's very good with him and natural with how she holds him and picks him up.  And I also loved Laura's whispering her lines when she realized baby was asleep--I bet that was Genie's own ad lib.

I hope Kevin and Laura become Esme's firm allies because I really think Esme could use some legitimate support.

Edited March 16, 2023 by kitmerlot1213
Fixed usage of wrong name

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3 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

The writing is always telling us that one of Sonny's kids is like him...and expecting us to forget that we hear that about all of them. When Sonny was "dead," we had that scene of Dante visiting Carly and hearing how much he was like Sonny. We heard a lot about how MoreGun was the most like him when the bipolar story was going on. And didn't Willow recently tell Mykill that even though they aren't biologically related, he and Sonny are so much alike?  

Today it was Kristina's turn. "Of all my kids, she's the most like me."

Sonny’s a narcissist so I always take it with a grain of salt when he says one of his kids are like him. He also told Alexis Kristina was exactly like her just a few months ago so I think it’s just something the writers like doing whether it makes sense or not. 

[Kim0820]

12 hours ago, Suicidy said:

Did Carly Jr. ever offer her sympathy to Olbrecht, or show gratitude about her daughter saving her life?

That’s why half the cast not only hangs out at the docks, but only dock for the whole port.  And they all dine at two or three restaurants.

Today's example:  For Alexis and Gregory to have their little tiff, they happen to be having breakfast with the sons/daughter in the same restaurant.  

[GHScorpiosRule]

8 hours ago, Daisy said:

I don't ever recall Spencer saying he doesn't care about higher education.  And while yes, Stanford was his first choice and he chose to stay at home, it doesn't change the fact that he did like playing at PCU. All I was saying was that Spencer's points do ring a tick true because I feel if Esme didn't interfere and if the Joss thing didn't happen, does Cam apply? (or does he accept if he was reached out to etc). probably not (I mean we'll never know)  - and this is probably setting up Spencer finding out about the Dumpster Relationship.

As I said, I think Spencer's outburst did have a tiny tinge of truth to it. Is it 50/50 - most likely not. but maybe even 10/90. If he starts talking Cam out of NOT going, or saying it's a stupid decision, then yeah for sure, he needs to hush. but i am not going to get grouchy at the guy for finding out his best friend is leaving town, and having a thought that it might not just be all about the opportunity when there is a lot of evidence that does show it could have other factors behind it as well, that's all. 

We'll just have to agree to disagree. Because Spencer is acting like a selfish, entitled turd, and making it all about himself. Yes, he said that it was "BS" for the reason Cam is now going to Stanford. But that doesn't matter. It's Cam's choice and he did what was best for him. Spencer, like all other wimmins on this show, has now been infected with rabies babies and he's obsessed with getting custody of his baby brother.

And Cam and Spencer being best friends is a new development anyway.

[rur]

Cam probably is Spencer's best friend, since he doesn't have any other friends. 

And, as for the soccer argument, I don't think it's that Cam likes playing soccer at PCU as much as Cam likes playing soccer, period, and if he can get a scholarship to do it, all the better, since I don't think we ever heard that PCU had offered him one.

For the heck of it, I looked it up, and Stanford's team ranks 9th nationally*, so kudos to the writers for sending him to a good soccer school. 

 

*PCU was not in the top 25. 😉

 

[Daisy]

Just now, rur said:

Cam probably is Spencer's best friend, since he doesn't have any other friends. 

And, as for the soccer argument, I don't think it's that Cam likes playing soccer at PCU as much as Cam likes playing soccer, period, and if he can get a scholarship to do it, all the better, since I don't think we ever heard that PCU had offered him one.

For the heck of it, I looked it up, and Stanford's team ranks 9th nationally*, so kudos to the writers for sending him to a good soccer school. 

 

*PCU was not in the top 25. 😉

 

LOL poor PCU. haha

Like i said. I just find that Spencer's reaction was relatively realistic. but then again I don't really just go "ugh so entitled" whenever Spencer does anything. (not to say that he isn't but that's how he was raised and he's still like 19 or whatever, so i still hope a chunk of it will be knocked out of him). as I said. I do think its realistic for friends not to be super happy at first if their friend is moving etc. it doesn't mean they are not happy about them doing something great or the experience or whatever - but it's the moving away part that is key here.

like if Spencer after a day or two isn''t supportive of the opportunity. (still allowed to feel bad/sad he's leaving)then yeah i'll get on him. I steal this from FRIENDS all the time; Im 80% Happy, 20% [insert negative emotion here]  - and sometimes the 20% shows up first before i can process and let the 80% shine through

[slayer2]

On 3/14/2023 at 9:46 PM, sunnyface said:

If only Aunt Ruby was around.  Back then, Aunt Ruby would whip Bobbie and Luke back into shape (only effective for a short while) when they acted out.   

And Ruby HATED Sonny, I can't imagine she would have much love for Carly wither especially when she saw what "Caroline" put Bobbie through.

The writing was poor in the "Cam is leaving" scene because yes Esme is indirectly responsible since the revenge porn tape screwed up Joss and Cam's relationship and then she made her silly choices. Would she have made her silly choices without the sex crime, we can't say but it seems less unlikely. Of course the writing didn't articulate that and it was right there for the taking. Silly. I definitely think Cam is Spencer's best friend and his cousin so of course he's upset but they should have had Spencer and Trina needle him more on why or have Joss confess but I suppose her family lineage isn't predisposed to accountability.

Spencer is definitely blinded by rage right now but what else should he be? Esme did more than run game on him she was part/parcel and the driving force in a years long plot to destroy his family and his life. Of course he is paranoid and angry and upset, what else should he be? To expect him to shake it off and move on is the kind of toxicity that we rail against when it comes to masculinity. He's paranoid, vulnerable and broken, but just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't watching you.

Edited March 16, 2023 by slayer2

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When I started watching the show, Bobbie might have given Carly way too much grace but she definitely didn’t agree with her all of the time and let her know when she didn’t. Which made sense considering Bobbie liked a lot of people Carly had issues with like the Qs and Elizabeth. She even sided with Jason instead of Carly during that Michael custody battle.
 

That’s the type of relationship Carly desperately needs, someone she cares about questioning or disagreeing with her, and what’s missing from her life. Bobbie’s turned into another one who echoes everything Carly says and thinks she’s always right. 

[Cheyanne11]

Everyone saying Spencer's reaction to Cam leaving is bad, but at least it's honest.  Joss being ~happy for him is more about how SHE won't have to see him around town and have a reminder of what an asshole she is.  "Make things easier for me" is always the #1 reason for everything a Carly does.

[slayer2]

2 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

When I started watching the show, Bobbie might have given Carly way too much grace but she definitely didn’t agree with her all of the time and let her know when she didn’t. Which made sense considering Bobbie liked a lot of people Carly had issues with like the Qs and Elizabeth. She even sided with Jason instead of Carly during that Michael custody battle.
 

That’s the type of relationship Carly desperately needs, someone she cares about questioning or disagreeing with her, and what’s missing from her life. Bobbie’s turned into another one who echoes everything Carly says and thinks she’s always right. 

True. Bobbie needs to remember how Carly came into her life with her vindictive plan which was very much Scream 3 Ghostface when she could have just introduced herself. Carly's first instincts are always the worst and Bobbie of all people should remember that.

[Cheyanne11]

18 minutes ago, slayer2 said:

Carly's first instincts are always the worst and Bobbie of all people should remember that.

They actually write Bobbie to not only forgive it now, but friggin' laugh about it.  "Haha, oh honey, remember when you can to town and slept with my husband?  Good times, good times!"

[Daisy]

2 hours ago, slayer2 said:

but they should have had Spencer and Trina needle him more on why or have Joss confess but I suppose her family lineage isn't predisposed to accountability.

this is the one that ticks me off the most.  like he was so (rightfully) angry when he caught Joss & Baby Jason -and she threatened to have him killed if she didn't keep her secret, but now he's okay with being friends? (I am actually surprised he called Joss to begin with). 

Again. that would be the soapy thing to do - so. of course the show decided not to do it. 

[Semiglued]

2 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Everyone saying Spencer's reaction to Cam leaving is bad, but at least it's honest.  Joss being ~happy for him is more about how SHE won't have to see him around town and have a reminder of what an asshole she is.  "Make things easier for me" is always the #1 reason for everything a Carly does.

I’m with Spencer on everything - his being upset about Cam leaving, his hatred for Esme and distrust of her. He’s right about all of it.

I don’t know what story the show is trying to tell though, and his hyper focus on Esme makes me worried they’re destined for a triangle with Trina. Honestly at this point I would rather see a Joss/Dex/Esme triangle even though Dex is super lame, because I want to see Joss lose.