Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[tessaray]

3 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

really don't care about Kai. He is so boring.

Cody is an idiot.

Lulu is an insufferable and a moron to boot.

Isaiah is the smart doctor on staff. But of course we needed a smart doctor because Michael must live!!!!

I thought the scenes of Tracy talking about Monica were pretty gutting in light of LC's passing. I think the show was gearing up to exit Monica, and I think people like JE who have worked with LC for so long are probably devastated by her passing. 

I do hope that the house goes to Tracy and that she is made the matriarch of the family as opposed to fucking Olivia. 

I give the writers half a point for Kai's dialog about what a huge decision going pro vs getting an education is for young athletes. If the character wasn't dull as dishwater I might have actually felt something about it. The actor is cute but he has no chemistry with TA. In fact, they have achieved new levels of anti-chemistry for ones so young and appealing on their own.

Yes and yes. (Bolded part.)

The doctors were kinda dumb about young, fit and healthy Dex going into cardiac arrest once they knew about Sam and the other victim. Dex was also dull as dishwater but I was used to him and he was a serviceable character. But yes, Michael's status as the Golden Child must be maintained.

While I hope Tracy gets the house, I can't believe Monica would will it away from Michael as the last direct descendant of Alan and AJ. 

[dubbel zout]

8 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Cyrus is playing God to counter the doctors playing God, but his niece is a precious snowflake, so she gets to live.

Cyrus wouldn't put Laura through the agony of a dead child. He's still desperate for her approval and affection.

[tessaray]

1 minute ago, dubbel zout said:

Cyrus wouldn't put Laura through the agony of a dead child. He's still desperate for her approval and affection.

By the time they kickstarted Lulu's recovery, I had come to believe that Cyrus had transferred a lot of his Laura obsession to Lulu. I would have believed a "if I can't have her, no one will" twist. I kinda thought that's where they were going with the move to SC. But with the "angel of death" aspect,  they seem to have switched directions. 🤷‍♀️

[rur]

1 hour ago, DanaK said:

The way Nina has been looking at Drew and Willow suggests she’s starting to get jealous of the two being together. And her confab with Sonny suggested she preferred diplomacy over using the health proxy to get Willow’s kids back. So I guess she didn’t really like Drew suggesting to Willow to use the health proxy as leverage

I've been thinking that Nina has been letting Drew take the lead, not only because she knows Willow will listen to him, but because she can be the one to use diplomacy and stay in the comparatively good graces of Sonny and Carly while they actively hate Drew. 

But then, I could be thinking more about this than the writers. 

[tessabq]

I realize this is twisted but I don't want Olivia or Michael to get the mansion. Soo, if Monica doesn't leave it to Tracy, I would love her Will to read, " And I leave the Quartermaine Mansion, which is mine because Alan gave it to me, to the best lover I ever had, Ned Ashton Quartermaine, aka Eddie Maine."  

Drew recently brought up the Monica/Ned assignation so who knows?

I still remember the scene where Ned and Monica discovered they were related. Soap Gold!

 

[MarciNJ]

14 minutes ago, tessabq said:

I realize this is twisted but I don't want Olivia or Michael to get the mansion. Soo, if Monica doesn't leave it to Tracy, I would love her Will to read, " And I leave the Quartermaine Mansion, which is mine because Alan gave it to me, to the best lover I ever had, Ned Ashton Quartermaine, aka Eddie Maine."

or maybe to one of her grandkids, to be held in trust until they are of age, like Ace and the Cassadine fortune.  There could be lots of plotting and infighting over that for many years.   I am sad about Leslie's passing; I am also looking forward to the reading of Monica's will.  It totally better say "And I leave the Quartermaine Mansion, which is mine because Alan gave it to me, to......   ?"  Talk about getting the last word!

Oh, if she leaves it to Wiley and Amelia, with Michael out of commission, that would put Willow (and Drew, by default) in charge of the house!  FUN.  (though I can't imagine she'd leave it only to them, and not Danny and Scout as well)

[sacrebleu]

59 minutes ago, MarciNJ said:

 

Oh, if she leaves it to Wiley and Amelia, with Michael out of commission, that would put Willow (and Drew, by default) in charge of the house!  FUN.  (though I can't imagine she'd leave it only to them, and not Danny and Scout as well)

Depends on when she last updated her will, if she left the house to Drew ( before she learned about he and Willow) that would cause the most chaos. 

Leaving it to Michael/ Willow jointly would also be a nightmare ( but good for conflict/ storytelling). 

But who are we kidding, she's gonna leave it to Jason. 

Edited 13 hours ago by sacrebleu

[Daisy]

23 minutes ago, sacrebleu said:

But who are we kidding, she's gonna leave it to Jason. 

I am too sick to rage. but you know this is happening. 

My secret wish until the will is read, that it' left to AJ's Secret Children along with her shares of ELQ. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Daisy

[statsgirl]

I was really hoping that the writers would let Willow stand up to Carly but when Carly screeched "How could you keep us from Michael?" instead of saying "How can you keep me from my children?" she fell back on Drew again. It was nice that Nina solved the custody status and Sonny got a win in that without resorting to violence. I figure the reason was Nina's face as she was expecting Willow to thank her and Willow ran into Drew's arms instead. An interesting situation for Nina that she at last has a good relationship with Willow but Willow is running for support to Drew instead.

Overkill:  Beefing up Quartermaine security in case Willow tries to take her own children.

Tracy advising Cody against the crypto deal reminded me of a certain person who said that going crypto would solve the country's financial problems.

Could Kai be any more perfect/ Is he a chess grand master too?

11 hours ago, Desperado said:

I saw it as him wanting to hire her for shady honey trap work. In my head, that’s why Anna went over the top trying to stop him from recruiting Emma.

That would be awesome. The show needs a shady dark grey character as opposed to Sidwell and Victor who were/are both mustache-twirling villains.

5 hours ago, DanaK said:

Tracy’s worry about Monica’s health in today’s episode were a little too foretelling since the actress only died on Sunday

I figured that it was written deliberately in view of LC's failing health.

5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Joss playing Girl Detective is also annoying because she's acting as if she's the only one who can solve things.

She's a Carly! (tm @YaddaYadda)

4 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

I do hope that the house goes to Tracy and that she is made the matriarch of the family as opposed to fucking Olivia. 

I'd like that, especially as Tracy would get the say on who gets to move in but it would require pivoting from Tracy being the complained-about outsider to being the matriarch and this show doesn't pivot well.

3 hours ago, JMO said:

I would love it if this resulted in Nina and Carly somehow becoming allies in saving the kids from this situation.

Regarding the kids situation:  Presumably, the court was led to believe that they were not safe in Willow's care, and thus should be removed.  For Sonny and Carly to violate that order and send the kids back to Willow would rightly lead the court to believe that they aren't keeping the kids safe, either.  Which would result in them being placed in someone else's care entirely.

Nina would be foolish to ally herself with Carly for any reason because Carly will turn on her on a dime and attack and use her if if benefits Carly.

Who know what Diane told the judge to get Carly custody before Willow was even informed that it was taken to a judge. It's Diane, she's Carly-adjacent.

It will look bad in a Carly vs Willow custody hearing though.

@Daisy I hope that you feel better soon.

Edited 11 hours ago by statsgirl

[absnow54]

4 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Overkill:  Beefing up Quartermaine security in case Willow tries to take her own children.

So let me get this straight. Did Carly have Diane file a court order to have the children returned to the Quartermaine mansion instead of sending them to her home? Talk about a full circle moment. 

[Auntie Velvet]

Obviously they are not going to recast Monica. And Lesley's death definitely takes anyone's appetite for that, I'm sure. But I can't help wishing we could have that character up and kicking right now. I really don't think she'd be washing her hands of Drew over this affair, given the shenanigans must Qs get up to on the regular. 

And, of course, it would have been so nice for her to have Drew and Jason, plus all the grandchildren, under her roof after Sam's death, as was briefly considered. 

Tracy is a lot of things, but a big-hearted matriarch she is not. For all her talk about Quartermaine superiority, she sure is quick to disown the ones that displease her.

 

[Cheyanne11]

1 hour ago, sacrebleu said:

But who are we kidding, she's gonna leave it to Jason. 

the only reason I'm not 100% convinced of this is Monica has always keening, in recent years, respected what Jason wants and doesn't want.  And there's no way he'd want that mansion.  But oy if she left it 50/50 to Jason and Drew.

So, let me get this straight: Willow was playing dirty with using the medical proxy to get her kids back but Carly wasn't by having Diane race down to the courthouse and pull whatever shady strings she has to get the court order to take the kids in the first place?  Never change, you self-righteous hypocrite.  

Willow, jfc, grow a pair.  Having to have Drew fight your battles just makes you look as weak-willed as the Carlys are accusing you of being.  And thanking DREW?  it was Nina who got those kids back in your custody.  Lord.

Loved the Stella/Tracy scenes and, yeah, they really hit after losing Leslie just yesterday.  And I cracked up at Tracy telling Cody a better use of his money would be to burn it as at least that would keep him warm for a minute.  Too bad the idiot's Plan B is just as bad an idea as the crypto investment.

[Daisy]

35 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

@Daisy I hope that you feel better soon.

thanks. a winter cold + chronic fatigue + iron def. anemia = wilted Daisy LOL

 

12 minutes ago, Auntie Velvet said:

Tracy is a lot of things, but a big-hearted matriarch she is not. For all her talk about Quartermaine superiority, she sure is quick to disown the ones that displease her.

 

she gets that from her Daddy LOL. but in all realism - this is where murdering off all the Q's in the 2000s is really hurting this family now. The writing has really been pushing for BLQ and I'm not feeling it. And Monica basically had to cow-tow to the people who were responsible for hurting the family 90% of the time. 

 

39 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

. I figure the reason was Nina's face as she was expecting Willow to thank her and Willow ran into Drew's arms instead. An interesting situation for Nina that she at last has a good relationship with Willow but Willow is running for support to Drew instead.

that look broke my heart. Nina needs someone to be team her. like the eff. (that look also looked like she was actually hearing what Carly was saying as in Drew is making it so Willow is dependent on him) and Katy Mc. is playing this very Cult-drone like too. 

what were the Stella/Tracy scenes? I haven't seen these

[Bringonthedrama]

13 minutes ago, Auntie Velvet said:

Tracy is a lot of things, but a big-hearted matriarch she is not. For all her talk about Quartermaine superiority, she sure is quick to disown the ones that displease her.

That's Stella's perception of her; Tracy and Stella being friends only happened in recent history. Tracy is sad and worried, which Stella sees. I interpreted that part of the conversation as her friend encouraging her to love all the kids and take over the matriarch role from Monica in order to support her in her failing health, instead of mourning that Monica's spark is gone. 

[Mirabelle]

8 minutes ago, Daisy said:

 

she gets that from her Daddy LOL. but in all realism - this is where murdering off all the Q's in the 2000s is really hurting this family now. The writing has really been pushing for BLQ and I'm not feeling it. And Monica basically had to cow-tow to the people who were responsible for hurting the family 90% of the time. 

If the show hadn't killed off Emily, she'd be the logical one to inherit the Monica Quatermaine for Displaced Children and Adults Who Refuse to Launch. 

[Suicidy]

5 hours ago, KittyQ said:

Carly to Willow: "People are going to be hurt. You know me..."

Me: Yup, you'll be sure people get hurt.

In other news, what's the deal with Cyrus? He's now an "Angel of Death", praying over the victims? How does he decide who to pick? Other than Michael, the other people weren't in such bad shape, especially Sam. 

Lulu, be careful what you wish for - Charlotte is still flaky and unpredictable. Maybe ask Valentine to work out an arrangement? And while you're at it, maybe visit with your son? 

 

The only thing wrong with Dex was Cyrus stabbing him in the first place.

[Artsda]

I can't stand any of these people, but Carly took the kids and then yelled at Willow for exercising her right? Then blame Willow? Carly struck first. Willow didn't do anything to the kids they didn't deserve to be taken at this time. 

Nina only one thinking of them and speaking sense.  Not Drew or Carly. Willow needs to get some sense. 

Oh Cody don't be a fool and bet with insider information. 

Laura claims that Valentine is so bad, but Anna is poor her she feels bad for shooting a kid? Anna's been more a criminal than anyone lately. 

The Monica writing by Tracy is the writers setting the stage, they knew her death was coming.

Tracy better get that house.

 

 

 

[ciarra]

5 hours ago, JMO said:

Presumably, the court was led to believe that they were not safe in Willow's care, and thus should be removed.

I'd like to know what designated Willow as "unfit".  Having an affair that her kids aren't even aware of doesn't qualify.  Maybe if they were bruised, unfed or sitting around in dirty clothes.

 

 

[DanaK]

6 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

She wasn't exactly wrong. The way Willow kept deferring to Drew on everything was all kinds of gross and the way Drew was speaking on her behalf was even worse. But if that's not a callback to Willow's upbringing in cults and her stint at Dawn of Days, I don't know what is.

Oh, I’m totally with you on that. Even Michael called Willow on glomming onto people

[Winston Wolfe]

6 hours ago, tessaray said:

The doctors were kinda dumb about young, fit and healthy Dex going into cardiac arrest once they knew about Sam and the other victim.

It also speaks to what a piss-poor Co-Chief of Staff Portia is. Once I realized someone on my staff is using Digitalis to kill patients, every single bottle would be locked in my office and only one trusted designee per shift would have access to it, should such a strategy be possible.

Re: Leslie Charelson, there's been so much on-screen and off-screen death attached to GH over the last three or four years it's getting really depressing.

[Grinaldi]

7 hours ago, Mirabelle said:

If the show hadn't killed off Emily, she'd be the logical one to inherit the Monica Quatermaine for Displaced Children and Adults Who Refuse to Launch. 

F$#@ it. Say Emily has been chilling in the same place Monica hid AJ and bring her back. 

Lately I have been of the opinion that Olivia should get the house. I like the idea of it going to the non-Q who loved it the most. (There's a case to be made for Lucy on those grounds too)

Or hell, give it to Yuri. He has been hanging out with her for a long time.

Tracy can't get the house. That would betray Edward, Alan and to some extent Lila. And Monica respects Jason too much to hand him that white elephant.

There's story in Drew getting it but he's so odious now that would rub the audience the wrong way. 

It'll probably be Michael which, meh. But if it is, I hope there's some sort of stipulation in the will that Carly can never live on the property and Sonny can only visit for 90 minutes on national holidays and every other birthday. 

I'd also love it if included with the will was a signed affidavit stating that from her window, Monica witnessed Sonny shooting Jagger Cates.

[YaddaYadda]

7 hours ago, Winston Wolfe said:

Re: Leslie Charelson, there's been so much on-screen and off-screen death attached to GH over the last three or four years it's getting really depressing.

Especially with a show that has been so bleak in general. 

Michael gets sent to some burn victim place, with Carly howling in the background, then they probably move on to Monica died in her sleep. 

[DanaK]

I think the obvious answer to who gets the Q home is that it goes into some kind of trust for the kids and the successive generations for them to live there and the adults, probably Tracy and Ned, and maybe Jason and Drew as well, co-manage it for the good of the family. For drama, it will probably just go to Tracy or Ned

2 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Especially with a show that has been so bleak in general. 

Michael gets sent to some burn victim place, with Carly howling in the background, then they probably move on to Monica died in her sleep. 

I suspect it will be several weeks or 2 or 3 months before they handle Monica’s death just because that’s usually how long it takes to deal withe the death of a character where the actor has died

[absnow54]

1 hour ago, DanaK said:

I suspect it will be several weeks or 2 or 3 months before they handle Monica’s death just because that’s usually how long it takes to deal withe the death of a character where the actor has died

Presumably they’ll try to bring back actors for a memorial, although most of the characters she’s connected to are already dead. Maybe they’ll get NL or AT back as Emily to usher Monica up the pearly spiral staircase. Or we’ll just get a lot of clips. I’m surprised they didn’t sneak any Monica v Tracy flashbacks into yesterday’s episode.