Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[tessaray]

3 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

really don't care about Kai. He is so boring.

Cody is an idiot.

Lulu is an insufferable and a moron to boot.

Isaiah is the smart doctor on staff. But of course we needed a smart doctor because Michael must live!!!!

I thought the scenes of Tracy talking about Monica were pretty gutting in light of LC's passing. I think the show was gearing up to exit Monica, and I think people like JE who have worked with LC for so long are probably devastated by her passing. 

I do hope that the house goes to Tracy and that she is made the matriarch of the family as opposed to fucking Olivia. 

I give the writers half a point for Kai's dialog about what a huge decision going pro vs getting an education is for young athletes. If the character wasn't dull as dishwater I might have actually felt something about it. The actor is cute but he has no chemistry with TA. In fact, they have achieved new levels of anti-chemistry for ones so young and appealing on their own.

Yes and yes. (Bolded part.)

The doctors were kinda dumb about young, fit and healthy Dex going into cardiac arrest once they knew about Sam and the other victim. Dex was also dull as dishwater but I was used to him and he was a serviceable character. But yes, Michael's status as the Golden Child must be maintained.

While I hope Tracy gets the house, I can't believe Monica would will it away from Michael as the last direct descendant of Alan and AJ. 

[dubbel zout]

8 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Cyrus is playing God to counter the doctors playing God, but his niece is a precious snowflake, so she gets to live.

Cyrus wouldn't put Laura through the agony of a dead child. He's still desperate for her approval and affection.

[tessaray]

1 minute ago, dubbel zout said:

Cyrus wouldn't put Laura through the agony of a dead child. He's still desperate for her approval and affection.

By the time they kickstarted Lulu's recovery, I had come to believe that Cyrus had transferred a lot of his Laura obsession to Lulu. I would have believed a "if I can't have her, no one will" twist. I kinda thought that's where they were going with the move to SC. But with the "angel of death" aspect,  they seem to have switched directions. 🤷‍♀️

[rur]

1 hour ago, DanaK said:

The way Nina has been looking at Drew and Willow suggests she’s starting to get jealous of the two being together. And her confab with Sonny suggested she preferred diplomacy over using the health proxy to get Willow’s kids back. So I guess she didn’t really like Drew suggesting to Willow to use the health proxy as leverage

I've been thinking that Nina has been letting Drew take the lead, not only because she knows Willow will listen to him, but because she can be the one to use diplomacy and stay in the comparatively good graces of Sonny and Carly while they actively hate Drew. 

But then, I could be thinking more about this than the writers. 

[tessabq]

I realize this is twisted but I don't want Olivia or Michael to get the mansion. Soo, if Monica doesn't leave it to Tracy, I would love her Will to read, " And I leave the Quartermaine Mansion, which is mine because Alan gave it to me, to the best lover I ever had, Ned Ashton Quartermaine, aka Eddie Maine."  

Drew recently brought up the Monica/Ned assignation so who knows?

I still remember the scene where Ned and Monica discovered they were related. Soap Gold!

 

[MarciNJ]

14 minutes ago, tessabq said:

I realize this is twisted but I don't want Olivia or Michael to get the mansion. Soo, if Monica doesn't leave it to Tracy, I would love her Will to read, " And I leave the Quartermaine Mansion, which is mine because Alan gave it to me, to the best lover I ever had, Ned Ashton Quartermaine, aka Eddie Maine."

or maybe to one of her grandkids, to be held in trust until they are of age, like Ace and the Cassadine fortune.  There could be lots of plotting and infighting over that for many years.   I am sad about Leslie's passing; I am also looking forward to the reading of Monica's will.  It totally better say "And I leave the Quartermaine Mansion, which is mine because Alan gave it to me, to......   ?"  Talk about getting the last word!

Oh, if she leaves it to Wiley and Amelia, with Michael out of commission, that would put Willow (and Drew, by default) in charge of the house!  FUN.  (though I can't imagine she'd leave it only to them, and not Danny and Scout as well)

[sacrebleu]

59 minutes ago, MarciNJ said:

 

Oh, if she leaves it to Wiley and Amelia, with Michael out of commission, that would put Willow (and Drew, by default) in charge of the house!  FUN.  (though I can't imagine she'd leave it only to them, and not Danny and Scout as well)

Depends on when she last updated her will, if she left the house to Drew ( before she learned about he and Willow) that would cause the most chaos. 

Leaving it to Michael/ Willow jointly would also be a nightmare ( but good for conflict/ storytelling). 

But who are we kidding, she's gonna leave it to Jason. 

Edited January 14 by sacrebleu

[Daisy]

23 minutes ago, sacrebleu said:

But who are we kidding, she's gonna leave it to Jason. 

I am too sick to rage. but you know this is happening. 

My secret wish until the will is read, that it' left to AJ's Secret Children along with her shares of ELQ. 

Edited January 14 by Daisy

[statsgirl]

I was really hoping that the writers would let Willow stand up to Carly but when Carly screeched "How could you keep us from Michael?" instead of saying "How can you keep me from my children?" she fell back on Drew again. It was nice that Nina solved the custody status and Sonny got a win in that without resorting to violence. I figure the reason was Nina's face as she was expecting Willow to thank her and Willow ran into Drew's arms instead. An interesting situation for Nina that she at last has a good relationship with Willow but Willow is running for support to Drew instead.

Overkill:  Beefing up Quartermaine security in case Willow tries to take her own children.

Tracy advising Cody against the crypto deal reminded me of a certain person who said that going crypto would solve the country's financial problems.

Could Kai be any more perfect/ Is he a chess grand master too?

11 hours ago, Desperado said:

I saw it as him wanting to hire her for shady honey trap work. In my head, that’s why Anna went over the top trying to stop him from recruiting Emma.

That would be awesome. The show needs a shady dark grey character as opposed to Sidwell and Victor who were/are both mustache-twirling villains.

5 hours ago, DanaK said:

Tracy’s worry about Monica’s health in today’s episode were a little too foretelling since the actress only died on Sunday

I figured that it was written deliberately in view of LC's failing health.

5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Joss playing Girl Detective is also annoying because she's acting as if she's the only one who can solve things.

She's a Carly! (tm @YaddaYadda)

4 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

I do hope that the house goes to Tracy and that she is made the matriarch of the family as opposed to fucking Olivia. 

I'd like that, especially as Tracy would get the say on who gets to move in but it would require pivoting from Tracy being the complained-about outsider to being the matriarch and this show doesn't pivot well.

3 hours ago, JMO said:

I would love it if this resulted in Nina and Carly somehow becoming allies in saving the kids from this situation.

Regarding the kids situation:  Presumably, the court was led to believe that they were not safe in Willow's care, and thus should be removed.  For Sonny and Carly to violate that order and send the kids back to Willow would rightly lead the court to believe that they aren't keeping the kids safe, either.  Which would result in them being placed in someone else's care entirely.

Nina would be foolish to ally herself with Carly for any reason because Carly will turn on her on a dime and attack and use her if if benefits Carly.

Who know what Diane told the judge to get Carly custody before Willow was even informed that it was taken to a judge. It's Diane, she's Carly-adjacent.

It will look bad in a Carly vs Willow custody hearing though.

@Daisy I hope that you feel better soon.

Edited January 14 by statsgirl

[absnow54]

4 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Overkill:  Beefing up Quartermaine security in case Willow tries to take her own children.

So let me get this straight. Did Carly have Diane file a court order to have the children returned to the Quartermaine mansion instead of sending them to her home? Talk about a full circle moment. 

[Auntie Velvet]

Obviously they are not going to recast Monica. And Lesley's death definitely takes anyone's appetite for that, I'm sure. But I can't help wishing we could have that character up and kicking right now. I really don't think she'd be washing her hands of Drew over this affair, given the shenanigans must Qs get up to on the regular. 

And, of course, it would have been so nice for her to have Drew and Jason, plus all the grandchildren, under her roof after Sam's death, as was briefly considered. 

Tracy is a lot of things, but a big-hearted matriarch she is not. For all her talk about Quartermaine superiority, she sure is quick to disown the ones that displease her.

 

[Cheyanne11]

15 hours ago, sacrebleu said:

But who are we kidding, she's gonna leave it to Jason. 

the only reason I'm not 100% convinced of this is Monica has always keenly, in recent years, respected what Jason wants and doesn't want.  And there's no way he'd want that mansion.  But oy if she left it 50/50 to Jason and Drew.

So, let me get this straight: Willow was playing dirty with using the medical proxy to get her kids back but Carly wasn't by having Diane race down to the courthouse and pull whatever shady strings she has to get the court order to take the kids in the first place?  Never change, you self-righteous hypocrite.  

Willow, jfc, grow a pair.  Having to have Drew fight your battles just makes you look as weak-willed as the Carlys are accusing you of being.  And thanking DREW?  it was Nina who got those kids back in your custody.  Lord.

Loved the Stella/Tracy scenes and, yeah, they really hit after losing Leslie just yesterday.  And I cracked up at Tracy telling Cody a better use of his money would be to burn it as at least that would keep him warm for a minute.  Too bad the idiot's Plan B is just as bad an idea as the crypto investment.

Edited January 14 by Cheyanne11

[Daisy]

35 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

@Daisy I hope that you feel better soon.

thanks. a winter cold + chronic fatigue + iron def. anemia = wilted Daisy LOL

 

12 minutes ago, Auntie Velvet said:

Tracy is a lot of things, but a big-hearted matriarch she is not. For all her talk about Quartermaine superiority, she sure is quick to disown the ones that displease her.

 

she gets that from her Daddy LOL. but in all realism - this is where murdering off all the Q's in the 2000s is really hurting this family now. The writing has really been pushing for BLQ and I'm not feeling it. And Monica basically had to cow-tow to the people who were responsible for hurting the family 90% of the time. 

 

39 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

. I figure the reason was Nina's face as she was expecting Willow to thank her and Willow ran into Drew's arms instead. An interesting situation for Nina that she at last has a good relationship with Willow but Willow is running for support to Drew instead.

that look broke my heart. Nina needs someone to be team her. like the eff. (that look also looked like she was actually hearing what Carly was saying as in Drew is making it so Willow is dependent on him) and Katy Mc. is playing this very Cult-drone like too. 

what were the Stella/Tracy scenes? I haven't seen these

[Bringonthedrama]

13 minutes ago, Auntie Velvet said:

Tracy is a lot of things, but a big-hearted matriarch she is not. For all her talk about Quartermaine superiority, she sure is quick to disown the ones that displease her.

That's Stella's perception of her; Tracy and Stella being friends only happened in recent history. Tracy is sad and worried, which Stella sees. I interpreted that part of the conversation as her friend encouraging her to love all the kids and take over the matriarch role from Monica in order to support her in her failing health, instead of mourning that Monica's spark is gone. 

[Mirabelle]

8 minutes ago, Daisy said:

 

she gets that from her Daddy LOL. but in all realism - this is where murdering off all the Q's in the 2000s is really hurting this family now. The writing has really been pushing for BLQ and I'm not feeling it. And Monica basically had to cow-tow to the people who were responsible for hurting the family 90% of the time. 

If the show hadn't killed off Emily, she'd be the logical one to inherit the Monica Quatermaine for Displaced Children and Adults Who Refuse to Launch. 

[Suicidy]

5 hours ago, KittyQ said:

Carly to Willow: "People are going to be hurt. You know me..."

Me: Yup, you'll be sure people get hurt.

In other news, what's the deal with Cyrus? He's now an "Angel of Death", praying over the victims? How does he decide who to pick? Other than Michael, the other people weren't in such bad shape, especially Sam. 

Lulu, be careful what you wish for - Charlotte is still flaky and unpredictable. Maybe ask Valentine to work out an arrangement? And while you're at it, maybe visit with your son? 

 

The only thing wrong with Dex was Cyrus stabbing him in the first place.

[Artsda]

I can't stand any of these people, but Carly took the kids and then yelled at Willow for exercising her right? Then blame Willow? Carly struck first. Willow didn't do anything to the kids they didn't deserve to be taken at this time. 

Nina only one thinking of them and speaking sense.  Not Drew or Carly. Willow needs to get some sense. 

Oh Cody don't be a fool and bet with insider information. 

Laura claims that Valentine is so bad, but Anna is poor her she feels bad for shooting a kid? Anna's been more a criminal than anyone lately. 

The Monica writing by Tracy is the writers setting the stage, they knew her death was coming.

Tracy better get that house.

 

 

 

[ciarra]

5 hours ago, JMO said:

Presumably, the court was led to believe that they were not safe in Willow's care, and thus should be removed.

I'd like to know what designated Willow as "unfit".  Having an affair that her kids aren't even aware of doesn't qualify.  Maybe if they were bruised, unfed or sitting around in dirty clothes.

 

 

[DanaK]

6 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

She wasn't exactly wrong. The way Willow kept deferring to Drew on everything was all kinds of gross and the way Drew was speaking on her behalf was even worse. But if that's not a callback to Willow's upbringing in cults and her stint at Dawn of Days, I don't know what is.

Oh, I’m totally with you on that. Even Michael called Willow on glomming onto people

[Winston Wolfe]

16 hours ago, tessaray said:

The doctors were kinda dumb about young, fit and healthy Dex going into cardiac arrest once they knew about Sam and the other victim.

It also speaks to what a piss-poor Co-Chief of Staff Portia is. Once I realized someone on my staff is using Digitalis to kill patients, every single bottle would be locked in my office and only one trusted designee per shift would have access to it, should such a strategy be possible.

Re: Leslie Charelson, there's been so much on-screen and off-screen death attached to GH over the last three or four years it's getting really depressing.

ETA: I just realized that locking the Digitalis down within GH wouldn't stop Cyrus or someone else from bringing it in from the outside.

Edited January 14 by Winston Wolfe

[Grinaldi]

7 hours ago, Mirabelle said:

If the show hadn't killed off Emily, she'd be the logical one to inherit the Monica Quatermaine for Displaced Children and Adults Who Refuse to Launch. 

F$#@ it. Say Emily has been chilling in the same place Monica hid AJ and bring her back. 

Lately I have been of the opinion that Olivia should get the house. I like the idea of it going to the non-Q who loved it the most. (There's a case to be made for Lucy on those grounds too)

Or hell, give it to Yuri. He has been hanging out with her for a long time.

Tracy can't get the house. That would betray Edward, Alan and to some extent Lila. And Monica respects Jason too much to hand him that white elephant.

There's story in Drew getting it but he's so odious now that would rub the audience the wrong way. 

It'll probably be Michael which, meh. But if it is, I hope there's some sort of stipulation in the will that Carly can never live on the property and Sonny can only visit for 90 minutes on national holidays and every other birthday. 

I'd also love it if included with the will was a signed affidavit stating that from her window, Monica witnessed Sonny shooting Jagger Cates.

[YaddaYadda]

7 hours ago, Winston Wolfe said:

Re: Leslie Charelson, there's been so much on-screen and off-screen death attached to GH over the last three or four years it's getting really depressing.

Especially with a show that has been so bleak in general. 

Michael gets sent to some burn victim place, with Carly howling in the background, then they probably move on to Monica died in her sleep. 

[DanaK]

I think the obvious answer to who gets the Q home is that it goes into some kind of trust for the kids and the successive generations for them to live there and the adults, probably Tracy and Ned, and maybe Jason and Drew as well, co-manage it for the good of the family. For drama, it will probably just go to Tracy or Ned

2 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Especially with a show that has been so bleak in general. 

Michael gets sent to some burn victim place, with Carly howling in the background, then they probably move on to Monica died in her sleep. 

I suspect it will be several weeks or 2 or 3 months before they handle Monica’s death just because that’s usually how long it takes to deal withe the death of a character where the actor has died

[absnow54]

1 hour ago, DanaK said:

I suspect it will be several weeks or 2 or 3 months before they handle Monica’s death just because that’s usually how long it takes to deal withe the death of a character where the actor has died

Presumably they’ll try to bring back actors for a memorial, although most of the characters she’s connected to are already dead. Maybe they’ll get NL or AT back as Emily to usher Monica up the pearly spiral staircase. Or we’ll just get a lot of clips. I’m surprised they didn’t sneak any Monica v Tracy flashbacks into yesterday’s episode. 

[dubbel zout]

13 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Overkill:  Beefing up Quartermaine security in case Willow tries to take her own children.

That was absurd. When Stella is asked for ID before she enters the property, you know you've gone too far.

13 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Could Kai be any more perfect/ Is he a chess grand master too?

Next thing we'll hear is that he's brought peace to the Middle East.

[Ambrosefolly]

4 hours ago, Grinaldi said:

Lately I have been of the opinion that Olivia should get the house. I like the idea of it going to the non-Q who loved it the most. (There's a case to be made for Lucy on those grounds too)

Or hell, give it to Yuri. He has been hanging out with her for a long time.

Fuck that too. Considering how she openly disparages the memory of her murdered cousin Kate, after she inherited half a hotel from her, and how she judges the Qs, a hard pass too. It should go into a trust for the great grand kids and grand kids besides Michael, as @DanaKsaid.

So if the stress of the combo of Willow and Michael's impending divorce and especially Michael going away to heal from life threatening burns finally does Monica in, then Jason's constant traitorous bullshit finally killed her. I know people deem Drew worse (and he is slimy), what Drew did has happened in the family before: Monica had an affair with Ned (before realizing it was her nephew, at least to her credit) and Jason stole Courtney away from AJ with the family cheering it on. But Jason constantly choosing Carly and Sonny and even helping them keep Michael away from most of the family, not mention directly or indirectly getting members of family killed, probably broke her heart.   

Edited January 14 by Ambrosefolly

[rur]

5 hours ago, Grinaldi said:

 

Lately I have been of the opinion that Olivia should get the house. I like the idea of it going to the non-Q who loved it the most. (There's a case to be made for Lucy on those grounds too)

 

I vote for Monica leaving it to the descendants of Mary Mae Ward. If done correctly, (ha ha ha, who am I kidding?) the shakeup could be good soap and provide some counter programing to Beyond the Gates. As much as I like Ned, I wouldn't mind it if Olivia, who I think is pretty useless,  had to live above Bobby's. And add Gio, Joss, Trina, and Lois to that list. 

 

I am having fun right now imagining Olivia haranguing Joss.

 

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I'd also love it if included with the will was a signed affidavit stating that from her window, Monica witnessed Sonny shooting Jagger Cates.

 

This! 1000 times!

Edited January 14 by rur

[Bringonthedrama]

35 minutes ago, Ambrosefolly said:

I know people deem Drew worse (and he is slimy), what Drew did has happened in the family before: Monica had an affair with Ned (before realizing it was her nephew, at least to her credit) and Jason stole Courtney away from AJ with the family cheering it on.

It's the details of this situation, which are disgusting to the family: they both live on the Q property and Drew used the proximity and Willow's concern for his young daughter to his advantage, Drew is getting with a much younger (and very naive) woman, the first time they had sex was in the children's playroom (kids including the teenagers could have witnessed as I don't think they locked the door), and he didn't just break up a marriage a la Jason/Courtney/AJ - the couple has two young children. Neither Monica nor Ned had young children at the time of their affair either.

[FilmTVGeek80]

18 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

It's the details of this situation, which are disgusting to the family: they both live on the Q property and Drew used the proximity and Willow's concern for his young daughter to his advantage, Drew is getting with a much younger (and very naive) woman, the first time they had sex was in the children's playroom (kids including the teenagers could have witnessed as I don't think they locked the door), and he didn't just break up a marriage a la Jason/Courtney/AJ - the couple has two young children. Neither Monica nor Ned had young children at the time of their affair either.

None of the people in that house have any room to judge. So what they had sex on Q property. And getting together with someone much younger - wasn’t Ned much younger than Monica? Paul much younger than Tracy? Jason stealing AJ’s child is so much worse than anything Drew has done.

[GHScorpiosRule]

7 hours ago, Grinaldi said:

Lately I have been of the opinion that Olivia should get the house.

Hell to the NAW! That horrid stereotype, who is always trash talking the family she married into and who deems who can have sex and who can't? NopeNopeNope. It should go to a QUARTERMAINE, and the only one TRUE Quartermaine is Tracy!Fucking!Quartermaine! Fuck how it would be a "betrayal" of Edward. PUHLEAZE. That old asshole still denigrated AJ when Jaysus rejected them for the likes of Cujo and Mooby. And thought the SLS was some protege of a great businessman or some shit or other when he put him in a top executive position at ELQ.

Drew is a Caine. Jaysus is a 'roid. Forget the grandkids. Ned would only give it to Olivia and Frank would think that it was just like Alan giving it to Monica, which no.

And it makes me so sad to realize that Jane Elliott and Genie Francis are the only original cast from this show's heyday from the 70s. Sure, Genie's Laura is a recast-but that happened when she was a teenager. And Kin is gone, meaning he's not a regular/retired/quit/whodafuckknows? And of course Geary has long retired and left the show.

Edited January 14 by GHScorpiosRule

[Ambrosefolly]

33 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

It's the details of this situation, which are disgusting to the family: they both live on the Q property and Drew used the proximity and Willow's concern for his young daughter to his advantage, Drew is getting with a much younger (and very naive) woman, the first time they had sex was in the children's playroom (kids including the teenagers could have witnessed as I don't think they locked the door), and he didn't just break up a marriage a la Jason/Courtney/AJ - the couple has two young children. Neither Monica nor Ned had young children at the time of their affair either.

Counterpoint: Jason constantly runs cover for the ASSHOLE THAT MURDERED HER BIOLOGICAL SON AJ IN COLD BLOOD AND HIS BITCH EX-WIFE. This isn't some Dorian/Vicki shit or on this show, Leslie/Monica drama, Jason is a complete traitor.  Not only is he still friends with the guy that murdered Monica's son AJ, he  even recently covered up a murder that Sonny committed, again in cold blood, on her fucking property. In any other circumstance, even the heighten ones, what Drew did was worse than Jason, it is the worse case of family stealing away another spouse, and that is a pretty high bar. At least this time around with the spouse stealing, people are disgusted by the people involved in the betrayal, unlike with what Jason pulled with AJ/Courtney with everyone celebrating it. And if kids being involved makes it worse, Jason fully supported Sonny knocking up Carly while she was (in an admittedly sham) marriage to AJ and taking full custody and then Sonny kidnapping AJ to steal his parental rights. If Jason truly felt sorry about it with his own experience with his own sons, he would be keeping his distance away from Sonny, instead of helping him cover up a murder. 

Edited January 14 by Ambrosefolly

[Bringonthedrama]

8 minutes ago, Ambrosefolly said:

Counterpoint: Jason constantly runs cover for the ASSHOLE THAT MURDERED HER BIOLOGICAL SON AJ IN COLD BLOOD AND HIS BITCH EX-WIFE. This isn't some Dorian/Vicki shit or on this show, Leslie/Monica drama, Jason is a complete traitor.  

I wasn't trying to start a fight and wasn't even thinking of Jason because he only moved in there for Danny's sake. I was mostly thinking of Monica, Tracy, Ned and Olivia, BLQ, and Lucas (I know he's not a Q but he was Bobbie's son/is Michael's uncle and has known the Q family his entire life because Bobbie and Tony were colleagues with Monica and Alan). 

[Ambrosefolly]

31 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I wasn't trying to start a fight and wasn't even thinking of Jason because he only moved in there for Danny's sake. I was mostly thinking of Monica, Tracy, Ned and Olivia, BLQ, and Lucas (I know he's not a Q but he was Bobbie's son/is Michael's uncle and has known the Q family his entire life because Bobbie and Tony were colleagues with Monica and Alan). 

My point is that while what Drew did managed to outdo what Jason and Monica did in terms of cheating, it is Jason's support of Sonny and Carly that has lead to Michael being gravely injured, again, that would cause Monica the most stress. Monica is probably furious with Drew as she was one of the few people that didn't demand that everything be taken away from him turned over to Jason when Jason came back from the dead the first time, but it isn't enough to stress her out as similar things have happened in the past and no one died directly from those events. However, Jason alliance with Sonny and Carly, even after what happened with Jason, has caused the Michael to be fighting for his life a second time. Michael to his stepfather's house for advice shouldn't put him in the hospital, but it did, again, not from an accident but from one of Sonny's enemies. Jason put Michael that lifestyle, when a safer option was available, because Carly can't compromise. He's threatened AJ several times when AJ tried to legally get custody of Michael. The alliance has cost the lives of Emily, Alan and Justus (with Justus being the most direct one as he was representing Jason when he got killed). The danger element would be bad enough, but Sonny cold bloodily murdered AJ and is freely living his life. If he cared about Monica out all, he would be distance between CarSon, but no. Instead he allows Sonny to use her property to stage another murder and Jason helps cover it up. Now Michael is again paying for the lifestyle that Jason got him in and refuses to quit. 

[tessaray]

38 minutes ago, Ambrosefolly said:

Counterpoint: Jason constantly runs cover for the ASSHOLE THAT MURDERED HER BIOLOGICAL SON AJ IN COLD BLOOD AND HIS BITCH EX-WIFE. This isn't some Dorian/Vicki shit or on this show, Leslie/Monica drama, Jason is a complete traitor. 

To Monica's credit, she never distinguished between her biological son and her adopted son. They were both her sons.

But I have never forgiven the writers for the decades of indignities. For making her tolerate Sonny and Carly - from the early days of just wanting to know her grandson to the point of welcoming Carly into the family (blech) during Jason & Carly's mob-inspired wedding. 

[Desperado]

I could see Brooklyn inheriting the house where she could remain happily fully clothed forever.

[Cheyanne11]

44 minutes ago, Desperado said:

I could see Brooklyn inheriting the house where she could remain happily fully clothed forever.

The East Wing for her blazers alone. 

[mostlylurking]

I don’t think I’d mind if Joss was being recruited for the WSB.  Eden McCoy is a capable actress and Joss is actually bearable when she’s away from the Corinthi cult.  Speaking of cults, Willow went from one (Dawn of Day) to another (Corninthi) and now to another (Drew), with only a slight reprieve when she was with Chase.  I don’t think Nina is getting jealous at all, she seemed disgusted and concerned.  I liked her appealing to Sonny and I liked even more that he heard her and decided to give in to Willow’s demands without consulting Carly.

Cameron seems to have completely embraced sleazy, smarmy Drew.  I mean if this is the material he’s being given, might as well go all in!

 

[Asp Burger]

6 hours ago, absnow54 said:

Presumably they’ll try to bring back actors for a memorial, although most of the characters she’s connected to are already dead.

I was just thinking Monica fans shouldn't get their hopes up for a great funeral scene, given the present composition of the cast. Tracy will surely be the highlight. Characters like Ned and Liz will get a little time to flesh out the personal and professional sides. But we'll also get a man-of-few-words eulogy from Jason, a smug and insincere-sounding one from Drew, and Carly will have a prime spot to talk at length about how she and Monica didn't always get along, but they loved some of the same people (meaning Jason and Michael) and came to respect each other.

And there will be shots of Sonny looking thoughtful.

[Prairie Rose]

Would it be too much to hope for Denise Alexander (Lesley) to come back for any memorial? She could also come back to see her fresh-out-of-coma granddaughter/namesake.

[Bringonthedrama]

So glad to see JJ in the opening credits, finally!!

Loved Tracy snarking at nuLulu and then giving her a reality check. Good for her, when she's being asked to bank roll the "find Charlotte and bring her home" mission. 

I also loved seeing Lucky in investigative mode, then treating Joss as the interrupting/annoying entitled young person she is and the WTF look on his face when she thanked him like she's an officer while he's a witness and then walked away.

BHerbst's hair looks gorgeous and I really enjoyed Elizabeth, nuLucas and Lucky talking about Cyrus and the patients' deaths.

Since Wiley and Amelia were supposedly getting cookies, in the main house, I was expecting him to hear something since Tracy and Marty were so loudly bellowing at each other. The only good thing is the writers made clear that Tracy is refusing to let the kids go because of Monica, not because she is suddenly invested in Michael or his children.

I enjoyed Nina slamming the door in Drew's face and I thought she would slap him when he was all "I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, but..." 

The Willow-Sasha showdown was unexpected.  Is the Show now trying to tell us that Sasha never fell out of love with Michael?  I wonder if Sasha will move into the gatehouse once she acknowledges to everyone she's pregnant. 

I guess they are trying to move the burn storyline along quickly with CD exiting.  It's been what, a day or two at most? since Michael got burned and Carly's all "the world is cruel and I don't want Michael to have to live with scars - yes, let's send him to where Ava was treated!" Umm, maybe be sure he's not going to die first?! I did like Felicia telling her and Jason nope, you can't see Michael.  How's it feel to have karma bite you, Carls?

I wish Joss and Donna heard their mother tell Jason that Michael is "perfect." 

Did anyone else get a good laugh out of the preview of Joss telling Anna to arrest Cyrus?

[ciarra]

27 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

Cameron seems to have completely embraced sleazy, smarmy Drew.

He's the new LWB.

[GHScorpiosRule]

15 minutes ago, Asp Burger said:

I was just thinking Monica fans shouldn't get their hopes up for a great funeral scene, given the present composition of the cast. Tracy will surely be the highlight. Characters like Ned and Liz will get a little time to flesh out the personal and professional sides. But we'll also get a man-of-few-words eulogy from Jason, a smug and insincere-sounding one from Drew, and Carly will have a prime spot to talk at length about how she and Monica didn't always get along, but they loved some of the same people (meaning Jason and Michael) and came to respect each other.

And there will be shots of Sonny looking thoughtful.

WORD! Especially the bolded. I don't have any hopes at all that this won't have Cujo and Mooby and Jaysus getting the lion's share.

13 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

So glad to see JJ in the opening credits, finally!!

Loved Tracy snarking at nuLulu and then giving her a reality check. Good for her, when she's being asked to bank roll the "find Charlotte and bring her home" mission. 

I also loved seeing Lucky in investigative mode, then treating Joss as the interrupting/annoying entitled young person she is and the WTF look on his face when she thanked him like she's an officer while he's a witness and then walked away.

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Did anyone else get a good laugh out of the preview of Joss telling Anna to arrest Cyrus?

1. WOOHOO!!!!!!!! FINALLY!!!!!!!!! I've been wondering and worrying that JJ only came back for a short stint and didn't want to be in the credits. Same for Alexa

2. Go TRACY!!!!! But did it have any effect?

3. That's my Lucky!!!! JJ is so good with facial expressions! I know it's unpopular, but when he saw Nik and Elizabeth boinking on that couch, the look of utter disgust was such UCG along with conveying how I felt with those loud, squicky kisses

4. Someone needs to sit that bint down and tell her to GTFO. But she's Cujo's spawn, so that will never happen.

[dubbel zout]

I am SO sick of hearing about Lulu's quest for Charlotte. Can't this story be backburnered for forever? It's amazing how quickly this story has made me dislike AH as nuLulu.

"Sorry, I don't mean to intrude," says Girl Reporter, as she proceeds to intrude. Joss needs to learn the hallowed GH art of the eavesdrop.

Wow, AJ has been dead for years and he still can't get a break from this fakakta show. "Michael had the wrong father"?! Carly could have made the point that Jason took care of him without slagging AJ at the same time. Or I guess not, since she's Carly and AJ was fat.

May the nanny looks Up to No Good.

8 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Carly's all "the world is cruel and I don't want Michael to have to live with scars - yes, let's send him to where Ava was treated!" Umm, maybe be sure he's not going to die first?

Yes, that for the immediate time. Michael's face was untouched, and it's not as if he ran around in a Speedo. Any scars he might end up with will be covered by clothes for most of the time. Also, who cares about his scars? Way to focus on the most shallow part of things, Carly.

[Bringonthedrama]

5 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

2. Go TRACY!!!!! But did it have any effect?

Yep. Plus NuLulu told Martin that she doubts Det. Dante Falconeri or his PCPD colleagues will help take the children away from his brother's home. Martin left, telling them "it's not over", Willow exited the gatehouse without the kids (because Sasha pressured her to let them go w/the nanny to the main house for cookies Grandma Monica wants them to have) and thought she was getting her kids at the main house. The next thing you know, Felicia stops Carly from going in to sit with unconscious Michael and Carly looks shocked.

[GHScorpiosRule]

12 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

"Sorry, I don't mean to intrude," says Girl Reporter, as she proceeds to intrude. Joss needs to learn the hallowed GH art of the eavesdrop.

I thought Mini-Cujo was Girl Detective? Or did she steal this moniker from NuNuLulu?😆

[Cheyanne11]

22 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

NuLulu told Martin that she doubts Det. Dante Falconeri or his PCPD colleagues will help take the children away from his brother's home.

So the PCPD isn't going to intercede on a family keeping children away from their only conscious parent because...reasons?  ISTG, this fucking show.  

[Desperado]

1 minute ago, Cheyanne11 said:

So the PCPD isn't going to intercede on a family keeping children away from their only conscious parent because...reasons?  ISTG, this fucking show.  

After assisting in taking them away, to boot. Yep, this f*cking show.

 

1 hour ago, Bringonthedrama said:

The Willow-Sasha showdown was unexpected.  Is the Show now trying to tell us that Sasha never fell out of love with Michael? 

This is what it looked like to me, especially considering sleeping with Michael should’ve given her pause of the “glass house” kind but she was quite emotional about protecting her Mikey.

In other news, I think we might be looking at another round of Nina/Sonny. They could be interesting to me, especially if the character is finally moving away from the coffee mob.

[JMO]

Too many murderous people on this show---I had totally forgotten that Dex once tried to kill Cyrus.

I like Liz, Lucky and Lucas (the new Triple L Detective Agency)working together, but I think the idea that the police haven't been made aware of the unexpected deaths by the ME is foolish. 

I'd expected to have a story about the kids at the Quartermaine mansion, but I'd expected it to be about Rocco, Danny and Scout, and their processing of the loss of Sam and the awakening of Lulu.  I'm disappointed that it's not.  I realize the current story is very soapy, but I would have found it more interesting to watch the three dads get it right, or wrong, and learn from each other.  We got just the smallest taste of that when Jason looked to Dante for advice, and I wanted more. The young actors were all quite good in the lead up to Sam's death, only to be dropped pretty abruptly.  

JE looked like she enjoyed her scenes with MK more than I did.  I preferred her persona with Gregory much more, but if having MK as a scene partner makes JE happy, then so be it.  

I don't understand why Nina thinks Sonny and Carly couldn't see Michael just because Tracy got in the way of Willow retrieving the kids.  That's not the nature of the agreement.  

 

[dubbel zout]

33 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I thought Mini-Cujo was Girl Detective? Or did she steal this moniker from NuNuLulu?😆

Brain fart. *shrugs*

Edited January 14 by dubbel zout

[Winston Wolfe]

38 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I thought Mini-Cujo was Girl Detective? Or did she steal this moniker from NuNuLulu?😆

Brain fart. *shrugs*

Hmmm. Isn't it that Lulu is "Girl Reporter" and Cujo Jr. is now "Girl Detective?"

Other than that, there's a lot to unpack from today's episode. For right now, I only have one huge question:

Why were so many characters speaking as if they were delivering bad William Shatner monologues from ST:TOS?

IF. YOU. KNOW. WHAT. I. MEAN.

Drew and Nina were particularly offensive with the yelling and over-enunciating.

Btw, get well soon @Daisy - I enjoy your posts so much!

Edited January 14 by Winston Wolfe