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I think my jaw hit the floor when Joss said she thought Dex being a cop meant he’d be safe. Because never, in the entire history of the world, has a cop ever been injured or killed in the line of duty? WTF is writing this shit?

So Drew is enlisting Nina to soften the blow to Curtis? I cannot wait for curtis to tell her about Drew and Nina fucking. She’ll be on Curtis’ side in a heartbeat. hell she might even do us all a favor and take out Drew altogether  🤣

anna can seriously just STFU about doing anything and everything and using any means necessary to find Charlotte. The kid wouldn’t be missing at all if not for Anna. I want Martin to tell Laura what happened and to press  charges.

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6 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

I think my jaw hit the floor when Joss said she thought Dex being a cop meant he’d be safe. Because never, in the entire history of the world, has a cop ever been injured or killed in the line of duty? WTF is writing this shit?

We always knew that Joss is a dumbass. She should have a conversation with Maxie about Nathan and that other cop she dated who took a bullet to the head.

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Suicidy

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On 12/8/2024 at 1:29 PM, KerleyQ said:

If I'm remembering right, there was no mention of Molly and TJ wanting/being ready for kids until she thought she might be pregnant. Then, instead of being pregnant, she found out she had endometriosis, and was told she can't have a baby.  They could actually explore her realizing she pushed so hard to have a baby right now, because she's the over-achiever who doesn't like being told there is something she can't do, and it created this sense of urgency in her. Let her figure out that, yeah, she might want kids at some point down the road, but, right now, she's really not ready. It would also explain so much about why she was so uninvolved in the pregnancy, and even why the cracks started showing in her relationship with TJ during the pregnancy. 

Just, for the love of God, don't have her miraculously become pregnant from a one night stand with someone like Dez or Isaiah. 

Your suggestions require nuanced writing.  That won’t be happening anytime soon.

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Suicidy

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On 12/9/2024 at 9:55 AM, 30 Helens said:

Welcome to General Oedipus Complex! Ewwwwwww…. but far more entertaining than the Incest Lite spectacle between Sasha and Cody. 

What the hell, I’d watch.

Already plenty of similar content online.  Although it’s NSFW.

1 hour ago, DanaK said:

Program note: No episode Christmas Day in favor of NBA Basketball

Because I there aren’t already enough channels to broadcast a pro sporting event.

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Suicidy

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On 12/10/2024 at 4:21 AM, YaddaYadda said:

She really is her father's daughter.

She moved really fast from my father beat up Dex to a bloody pulp and I'm so upset about it to my father murdering an FBI agent is a great thing and he might bump off Ava, so I'll just nod in approval while I sip my coffee and keep reminding him how she pushed me out the window.

I'm supposed to root for this? Never mind that Kristina keeps failing upward and that Ava did not push her out the window. But if the writers tell us enough times that that's what happened, maybe we'll start believing it.

Why has no one questioned the cheap hotel window she fell through so easily.  She didn’t take a running jump it, she tripped and fell through.  The glass used in commercial windows would never break so easily,  so she should blame Calry and sue the hotel for eleventy kajillion dollars, which is actually not so far fetched as of late.

Seriously, the failure of that window is 95% of the cause, not Ava putting her hand on Kristina’s arm.

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On 12/9/2024 at 12:32 PM, YaddaYadda said:

Gio, Joss, Dex and Trina are one boring quartet. Dex is the Eyore of this group. And I like how we have a revolving door for the fourth person in this group. Rory, Spencer, Gio. Two are dead, let's make that three.

We all knew that God loving, Bible thumping and reformed man Cyrus murdered Sam, because this show does not know how to do foreshadowing. They just know how to catapult anvils.

I guess his reasoning might be that he wants to give Lulu back everything he took from her after he almost blew her up into an early grave. Still doesn't explain him wanting to move her all the way to North Carolina, though.

I am impressed by how many scenes KeMo filmed for her exit. I thought they'd put a mannequin with a dark wig in that bed.

They can’t make them interesting because the partying and fun fo earl to mid 20 something’s has to involve lectures, a horrible accident, or an addiction storyline after the character gets drunk four or five times.  And forget pot use.  Remember that lame storyline where Cameron got busted for not buying pot, let alone smoking it.  Yeah…….

Just get them involved in some soy capers.  And cast James Callie as Mikos Cassadines unknown son, Mikos Jr.  he can be the villain.

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JMO

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13 minutes ago, Suicidy said:

Why has no one questioned the cheap hotel window she fell through so easily.  She didn’t take a running jump it, she tripped and fell through.  The glass used in commercial windows would never break so easily,  so she should blame Calry and sue the hotel for eleventy kajillion dollars, which is actually not so far fetched as of late.

Seriously, the failure of that window is 95% of the cause, not Ava putting her hand on Kristina’s arm.

This show would be so much more interesting if the MetroCourt was being sued over the window.  Think of all of the players----Carly and Olivia, of course, and by extension, Ned, and they would go after Nina for having owned it for a minute.  Maybe the Quartermaine wealth would be threatened in a lawsuit as well, which would bring in the rest of the family.  And Sonny, torn between Carly and the cost to that part of his family, and Krissy, who would be pressing the lawsuit.  And Ava, cackling over all of them.  Not to mention all of the eyewitnesses.  They really should do this.  

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I'm almost not even sure what happened after Joss immediately jumped to thinking Sonny was involved in Dex's stabbing because my eyes rolled out of my head and I had to locate them.  Girl, he's in like 2 other storylines right now and everyone's already forgotten about Jagger.  

Dr. Gannon is ruined on Jordan. Maybe she, Portia, and Curtis can become a throuple and live happily together entirely offscreen.  

What is it with everyone threatening violence against people who have stated very clearly that they don't know where Valentin is? I'm already bored with the search for Valentin and it's barely even started. Honestly the commercial breaks listing side effects for medications were more compelling than anything really on my screen today except for the Maxie/Lulu reunion, and that's only because it at least temporarily stopped the Carlyfication of Lulu.  

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14 minutes ago, sashabear21 said:

I'm almost not even sure what happened after Joss immediately jumped to thinking Sonny was involved in Dex's stabbing because my eyes rolled out of my head and I had to locate them.  Girl, he's in like 2 other storylines right now and everyone's already forgotten about Jagger.  

Dr. Gannon is ruined on Jordan. Maybe she, Portia, and Curtis can become a throuple and live happily together entirely offscreen.  

What is it with everyone threatening violence against people who have stated very clearly that they don't know where Valentin is? I'm already bored with the search for Valentin and it's barely even started. Honestly the commercial breaks listing side effects for medications were more compelling than anything really on my screen today except for the Maxie/Lulu reunion, and that's only because it at least temporarily stopped the Carlyfication of Lulu.  

Lulu is starting to act like Cyrus when he tried to blackmail every rando he came across into finding his mother when Martin moved her to another nursing home.

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statsgirl

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"When you become a cop I thought that you'd be safe."  Joss appears to have confused 'cop' with 'librarian'.

Almost as bad as Sasha thinking that Michael won't notice that she's pregnant and will leave her alone if he does.

Jordan and Isaiah are very pretty together but also a cure for insomnia. And why does Jordan want to interview Dex? She's not with the police any more.

It was delightful to see Nina read Drew the riot act. More people need to line up to do it.

Brennan -- another man falls at the altar of Carly.

 

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Winston Wolfe

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11 hours ago, Mirabelle said:
22 hours ago, sacrebleu said:

 NuNuLuLu

I've been calling her 2Nu2Lu

Does that mean she's "2 Legit 2 Quit?"

10 hours ago, Artsda said:

Martin does need to have Jason arrested and the so called commissioner. She acts like she's above Sonny. She's just as bad. He needs to get her. 

Last thing the show needs is another Carly. Lulu needs to relax. 

I can't wait for Laura to fire Anna's ass. And to rip Jason a new one. The Police Commissioner abiding kidnapping - of the freaking Mayor's Brother. Oh where have you gone, "Mr. Big?" (sorry, 80s GH reference).

Maybe this paves the way for PCPD Commissioner Lucky Spencer?

9 hours ago, sashabear21 said:

Lulu reunion, and that's only because it at least temporarily stopped the Carlyfication of Lulu.  

Yeah, that's starting to scare me. Alexa Havin has been doing a splendid job and now the writers want her to become one of the Snarlys. Maybe moving Lulu into Maxie and Tracey's (!!!!) orbit will derail that.

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bybrandy

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14 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

was rather underwhelmed by Lulu's reaction to the news Aunt Bobbie died

In actually okay with this. She’s just had so many blows. There is only so much grief you can take. 
 

my grandma died shortly after my father died more unexpectedly. It wasn’t that I didn’t love my grandma it was just I didn’t  have any more room for it. My mom apparently started grief counseling for the same reason, and her therapist told her it was normal with two big losses like that and she wasn’t the worlds worst daughter. 
 

Lulu’s learned she’s lost 4 years with her kids, one of them is missing, and her dad is dead. Of course finding out about Bobbie was a big, “of course Bobbie is dead too” moment. 
 

My sister was so disappointed one Christmas when she acknowledged how much I’d sacrificed as caretaker for our mom and one Christmas offered to not only pay for me to go on vacation but also to come look after our mom. It was such a generous offer and my literal reaction was, “oh great what is going to ruin this”? Instead of being grateful, I literally braced for impact because every bit of good for 7 years had been superseded by something horrific.  It was my Christmas 2019 gift.  
 

 

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7 hours ago, sashabear21 said:

Dr. Gannon is ruined on Jordan.

I want to like them but she’s so boring. 
 

7 hours ago, sashabear21 said:

Maybe she, Portia, and Curtis can become a throuple and live happily together entirely offscreen.  

I actually thought that trio had a moment of spark when Portia seemed momentarily jealous. 
 

6 hours ago, statsgirl said:

 

"When you become a cop I thought that you'd be safe."  Joss appears to have confused 'cop' with 'librarian'.

 

That was so bizarre. I get her not liking Sonny but being a cop is less dangerous than being a low level Corinthos employee?

Also while I am usually wildly pro Sonny hate Joss’s opinion about Sonny I feel should be fairly complicated because mixed in with justified hatred is the bit where all of her siblings love him  it should be complicated.  I mean I still want her to hate him but also more?

 

Are they wanting me to hate Anna because?!?!  Couldn’t they have at least tried to ask Martin for help before Anna went to letting Jason have his way with Martin.  
 

I shouldn’t trust Jason more in a scene than I do Anna.  
 

I really like Martin.  

 

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2 hours ago, bybrandy said:

In actually okay with this. She’s just had so many blows. There is only so much grief you can take. 
 

my grandma died shortly after my father died more unexpectedly. It wasn’t that I didn’t love my grandma it was just I didn’t  have any more room for it. My mom apparently started grief counseling for the same reason, and her therapist told her it was normal with two big losses like that and she wasn’t the worlds worst daughter. 
 

Lulu’s learned she’s lost 4 years with her kids, one of them is missing, and her dad is dead. Of course finding out about Bobbie was a big, “of course Bobbie is dead too” moment. 
 

My sister was so disappointed one Christmas when she acknowledged how much I’d sacrificed as caretaker for our mom and one Christmas offered to not only pay for me to go on vacation but also to come look after our mom. It was such a generous offer and my literal reaction was, “oh great what is going to ruin this”? Instead of being grateful, I literally braced for impact because every bit of good for 7 years had been superseded by something horrific.  It was my Christmas 2019 gift.  
 

 

I'm sorry, I hope you are in a better place today. Christmas 2019?  So you never got to go, right?  

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2 hours ago, bybrandy said:

Are they wanting me to hate Anna because?!?!  Couldn’t they have at least tried to ask Martin for help before Anna went to letting Jason have his way with Martin.  
 

I shouldn’t trust Jason more in a scene than I do Anna.  
 

I really like Martin.  

 

Maybe I'm just dumb, but  I think the kidnapping was all a set up, designed to scare Martin--Jason made a point to say that he didn't want things to get messy, Anna made a point to hand Jason the zip ties in front of Martin--they wanted to legitimately scare him.  I don't think Anna or Jason would actually hurt Martin.

That being said, when Brennan was going over all of the ways to track Charlotte--check for on line activity revolving around names of her horses--I think that's the reason Spinneli was at the warehouse, he was already checking for all that because I refuse to believe Anna didn't think of all that already.

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GHScorpiosRule

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Boring, boring, boring.

And like @dubbel zout, I didn't think I would be saying this so soon when I really liked her first few scenes: Shut up, NuNuLulu! I am SO not looking forward to this new bestie cousin relationship again; especially after what Cujo pulled on her with setting up Brookie to sleep with Dante to break them up. UGH.

But of course, like with Robin, after she was happy to be safe again, was all forgiveness for Mooby after cutting him off.

Finola is a good actress. She's also very beautiful; she's got talent. Does she NEED the job at this fakakta show? Does she even question the craptastic shitfest that they are writing for Anna?

As others have stated, the hypocrisy is UNREAL; SHE'S the reason Charlotte is not in Port Charles; and she didn't give any bluedilly fucks about Lulu when she let Valentin run away-because she didn't and doesn't give a fuck about Lulu-she was in a coma, after all. So I did like Martin throwing that in her fucking face.

And I really hope Laura nails her ass-and FIRES her.

I'm just going to sit at my table here and enjoy the slivers of scenes with Lucky and Elizabeth and the miserly flashbacks Frank deigns to give me us.

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15 hours ago, JMO said:

This show would be so much more interesting if the MetroCourt was being sued over the window.

It'll never happen because Carly owns the hotel. I'm surprised no one has suggested that Kristina file a wrongful-death suit against Ava. It's a civil suit, so Ava wouldn't go to jail, but Kristina could ask for a ton of money, and the burden of proof is a lot lower than for a criminal case. Then Ric could point to the shoddiness of the window at the MetroCourt and the whiff of a case against Carly and Olivia would be enough to make the case go away. Then Ava can sue Kristina for libel and win the bucks Kristina was asking for from her.

I know it was a plot point, but if my lawyer had my bank details on his cell phone, I'd have a new lawyer before the old one could delete the info. And I might sue for breach of confidentiality or something. The new lawyer would figure it out.

23 minutes ago, MarciNJ said:

Sasha could have puked over the turkey; would be a novel way to announce her pregnancy.

Or taken one bite and run out of the room with her hand over her mouth, with Olivia looking insulted. (You know Olivia would take over the cooking for Thanksgiving.) And then telling everyone to eat the ziti instead.

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16 hours ago, JMO said:

This show would be so much more interesting if the MetroCourt was being sued over the window.

Kristina and Ava both sue the MetroCourt, win, and are awarded the hotel and have to run it together.

1 hour ago, MarciNJ said:

Sasha could have puked over the turkey; would be a novel way to announce her pregnancy.

Sasha walks in on Willow and Drew having sex in the kitchen, runs away screaming, and the turkey burned.  Over pizza, Willow shoots Sasha snotty glances while throwing shade that the ruined turkey Sasha's fault.

On 12/11/2024 at 7:38 AM, sacrebleu said:

NuNuLuLu

50ef6a293b33138df10035aad5ee2b6547-mork-

Sorry, I can't help it.

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Cheyanne11

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Anna has not been this unlikable since her #JusticeForDewk days.  The absolute nerve of her to act like it's up to Martin to provide the information to find Valentin when she's the reason he's gone is like whoa.  Also, I take issue with her "he kidnapped Charlotte" justification.  He has full custody of his kid, her mother was in a coma--how is that kidnapping?  I presume she's just telling herself that to claim it's not all on her why the kid is MIA.

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Tracy, Lulu is an adult not a 6-year-old. Laura is not the gatekeeper to whom with and how Lulu spends her time, so Tracy needs to stop with the bitchy attitude about Lulu's mother.

I thought BLQ and Chase could not be any more unsexy, but then they go and brag deliberately in front of her grandmother about how active they are in trying to conceive. Yet sadly that's not the grossest thing to happen at this Quartermaine non-Family holiday party. 

I did, however, love Tracy telling Joss in front of several people that she has no say. And kudos to Tracy for being pissed off at them all about the game, thus unintentionally playing the Willow-Drew playroom sex recording in front of everyone.

I also liked Nina's comment to Carly about her entitled/rude behavior and then calling Drew out on using poor Scout to as an excuse to be near Willow. 

Who didn't see the alarms going off in Dex's room coming? 

 

 

 

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Tracy is so disrespected. Take a seat, Trina, with your "I was watching that." No you weren't. This isn't your house. It's not your house either, Joss. 

So is Michael lying about his ONS, as in keeping Sasha's name out of it, means that he won't be able to claim the baby right away? Can't claim the kid without telling the truth.

Sonny/Natalia is such a gruesome twosome. Two gross people acting like their shit don't stink. There's a reason your kids don't want to be around you, Natalia. You're hateful. And the only reason Sonny's kids are close with him is because the writers want us to believe that he is a good guy.

So how is it that Ava has no money? Did upstanding guy, Sonny, do something to her accounts?

Is Dex a victim of the digitalis? I don't think it works on blocks of wood, but who knows.

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Bringonthedrama

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3 minutes ago, Daisy said:

NO WAY!!! so now everyone saw them do it?!?!

Well, not Sasha or Monica or any of the kids. We'll get to see more of the video and the reactions from BLQ + Chase, Joss-Trina- Gio, Tracy, Ned, Carly, Nina, Willow, Drew etc. in the tomorrow/Friday episode. Carly confronts Drew and BLQ and Chase are discussing Michael and Willow in the previews. 

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"I'm not going to talk about Avery with you," Sonny snarls at Ava, her mother. He's such a petty bitch. And there's a way not to go bankrupt from lawyers' fees in the custody suit with Ava—compromise. Put Avery first for a change, instead of your pathetic ego.

22 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Sonny/Natalia is such a gruesome twosome. Two gross people acting like their shit don't stink. There's a reason your kids don't want to be around you, Natalia. You're hateful.

Yeah, boo-frickin'-hoo that your son doesn't want a noted bigot as his manager. And even if you weren't a noted bigot, some kids don't want their parents involved in their lives to that extent. 

I'm shocked that Joss didn't dump Dex the instant she discovered he always rooted for Llanview. Doesn't he know her viewpoint is the only one that matters?

The Q holiday party was really grim. No wonder people watched the game instead. And LOL that nearly all of the guests live somewhere on the property, so they see one another often enough. 

44 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

And kudos to Tracy for being pissed off at them all about the game, thus unintentionally playing the Willow-Drew playroom sex recording in front of everyone.

The best part of the episode by a mile. Too bad the last shot was Michael, annoyed that the secret is out and he's lost his leverage over Drew.

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Does Port Charles have the title of Rudest City in the State? Because all the people at Tracy's party certainly qualify. If you're that desperate to watch The Game (which no one has ever cared about before Kai arrived on screen), tape it or give your regrets to the hostess and don't show up at all.

Double rudeness points to Carly for interrupting Nina's conversation  with Olivia because she had to talk to her Right. Now. and then making a face like a 4 year old when Nina called her on it.

Good try Alexis but I don't think that anything will get through to Kristina.

Sonny/Natalia and Ric/Ava ... living wallpaper as my old boss used to say.

4 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I know it was a plot point, but if my lawyer had my bank details on his cell phone, I'd have a new lawyer before the old one could delete the info.

I think that it was Ric's own bank info that he had, saying that Ava's cheque to him had bounced.

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Tracy, Lulu is an adult not a 6-year-old. Laura is not the gatekeeper to whom with and how Lulu spends her time, so Tracy needs to stop with the bitchy attitude about Lulu's mother.

Also, it's not like Laura has an electric fence around her house keeping people out.  Even then, Lulu hasn't even spent any time there yet since she's been running around town like a lunatic since the minutes she woke up.  

 

 

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I think that it was Ric's own bank info that he had, saying that Ava's cheque to him had bounced.

Do people still use checks?  My house alarm company still takes checks so I still have them on hand, but every other bill is paid through my bank or vie etransfer or credit card.   

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35 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:
41 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I think that it was Ric's own bank info that he had, saying that Ava's cheque to him had bounced.

I think that @dubbel zout was referring to yesterday's show when Martin told Jason and Anna that he had Valentin's bank account information on his (Martin's) phone.

Yes, it refers to yesterday's ep.

29 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

Do people still use checks? 

I do, for a few specific businesses. My dentist charges me a credit card fee, and I don't need that kind of nickel and diming. (Annoyingly, more and more places pass this on to the customer, though we probably would pay anyway with higher prices.) Plus, I have a lot of checks left from the days when you used them much more frequently, so I might as well get rid of them.

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33 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Yes, it refers to yesterday's ep.

I do, for a few specific businesses. My dentist charges me a credit card fee, and I don't need that kind of nickel and diming. (Annoyingly, more and more places pass this on to the customer, though we probably would pay anyway with higher prices.) Plus, I have a lot of checks left from the days when you used them much more frequently, so I might as well get rid of them.

Some workman only take checks, which drives me crazy

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