S11.E19: Reunion Part 2

[poeticlicensed]

Millennials= millennium

Is Ramona really that dumb? 

[chewycandy]

Just now, poeticlicensed said:

Millennials= millennium

Is Ramona really that dumb? 

Yes 

[nexxie]

4 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

Not unless Tinsley borrows Lisa Rinna's strap-on!  😂

Well, maybe they could have “an arrangement” that gives Tinsley a baby and makes Pat happy.

[Steph J]

Just now, poeticlicensed said:

Is Ramona really that dumb? 

The answer to that question is only ever "Yes."

[chewycandy]

Just now, nexxie said:

Well, maybe they could have “an arrangement” that gives Tinsley a baby and makes Pat happy.

Bambi Mercer Mortimer Sudler Smith?

[Keywestclubkid]

6 minutes ago, Thumper said:

I'm not watching, only reading here, but isn't Beth the one who posted a video of herself crying hysterically over her own dog who was either sick or dying???  And now she's making fun of Tins???!!! 

[njbchlover]

They really should not show clips from previous reunions - it's amazing how different Bethenny and Ramona look.  

Bethenny's face is very different, and Ramona's body is completely changed.

Luann still looks the same, though.  That woman never ages!  

[Neurochick]

Hey, Bethenny, what do you use as a crutch?

[MrsPatrickBateman]

Wow, I was actually surprised that Andy was taking up for Tinsley. He was trying to explain that Tinsley is a completely different person and just because she doesn't want to discuss money because she was raised in a world where that is uncomfortable doesn't mean she isn't forthcoming. Watching Beth and her faces and comments she is 100% jealous of Tinsley. Which is ironic because Beth has what Tinsley wants, an engaged partner and a child. She doesn't have to agree with Tinsley's lifestyle but you can't spout on about female empowerment but then tell a woman what makes her happy is wrong.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

I believe Luanne when she says she expends a lot of energy trying to maintain her sobriety. And I also think she's totally correct that none of the rest of these women have very little idea of how hard she works to maintain her sobriety. 

Edited July 19, 2019 by eleanorofaquitaine

[Suckeredin]

12 minutes ago, Steph J said:

If the third word in your apology is "if" you aren't doing it right, Dorinda.  There's no "if" once the other person has declared themselves injured by your words/actions.

"I'm sorry that..."  Take some damn ownership of it.

So much this...I bow to you 

[Neurochick]

Andy, some people get sober and have jobs as bartenders.

And Ramona, I think you're doing more than just drinking....where's that bottle of Xanax?

[nexxie]

13 minutes ago, Thumper said:

I'm not watching, only reading here, but isn't Beth the one who posted a video of herself crying hysterically over her own dog who was either sick or dying???  And now she's making fun of Tins???!!! 

One of the many reasons that Bethenny still sucks.

[poeticlicensed]

When's the Barbara pile on? I thought that was this episode.

[divsc]

27 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Good God, Sonja, it is not any of your business as to where Tinsley's money comes from. 

Sonja REALLY needs to go back to an earlier season reunion and re-watch where she is the one telling Kelly Bensimon to stop counting Sonja's money and that it's none of her business where it comes from or what she's getting from her ex-husband or anyone or anything else.

[nexxie]

6 minutes ago, MrsPatrickBateman said:

Wow, I was actually surprised that Andy was taking up for Tinsley. He was trying to explain that Tinsley is a completely different person and just because she doesn't want to discuss money because she was raised in a world where that is uncomfortable doesn't mean she isn't forthcoming. Watching Beth and her faces and comments she is 100% jealous of Tinsley. Which is ironic because Beth has what Tinsley wants, an engaged partner and a child. She doesn't have to agree with Tinsley's lifestyle but you can't spout on about female empowerment but then tell a woman what makes her happy is wrong.

Bethenny didn’t seem so empowered in her relationship with Dennis.

[Keywestclubkid]

2 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

Andy, some people get sober and have jobs as bartenders.

And Ramona, I think you're doing more than just drinking....where's that bottle of Xanax?

I think the difference is Luanne doesn’t think she has a drinking problem therefore is tempted easier. She is only waiting till she’s off probation she’s gonna drink again 

[tranquilidade]

Bethenny is a hypocrite. 

[Neurochick]

Ugh, Bethenny's face.  She looks like she's in her 70's.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

18 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

For someone who was blubbering about everything in part 1, suddenly Beth thinks Tinsley losing her beloved pet was hysterical. She is a stone cold bitch. 

9 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Bethennys REPEATED side snarking (over and over !)  about trying to keep a straight face during the dog convo was middle school mean girl, she is a sick damaged straight up bitch. 

[Neurochick]

6 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I think the difference is Luanne doesn’t think she has a drinking problem therefore is tempted easier. She is only waiting till she’s off probation she’s gonna drink again 

I don't know if she is an alcoholic.  She may have a mental health problem.

Ah, there it is, Bethenny makes Luann's drinking about HER, BETHENNY. 

Just because the others haven't been arrested, doesn't mean they might not have drinking problems.

Edited July 19, 2019 by Neurochick

[Suckeredin]

I used to love Dorinda.

Now I want to punch Dorinda in the throat.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Oh, for God's sake, Bethenny - Lu's issues with alcoholism are NOT all about you. 

Edited July 19, 2019 by eleanorofaquitaine

[JAYJAY1979]

Bethenny isn't an example of female empowerment either 

[Straycat80]

 I used to like Ramona but she’s really turned into a vicious bitch. 

[Chit Chat]

14 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

Millennials= millennium

I had a Star Wars moment and thought of the Millennium Falcon.  😉  Our Noodle never fails to bring the funny.

If Wikipedia is correct and Tinsley has had some business ventures, why does Bethenny then smirk when she tries to explain it?  Bethenny, Dorinda & Sonja sat on the "we be bitches" couch.  They've been horrible!

[tranquilidade]

2 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

I don't know if she has a drinking problem.  She may have a mental health problem.

Ah, there it is, Bethenny makes Luann's drinking about HER, BETHENNY. 

I had the same thought.  Her delusional and egocentric moments support this too.

[MrsPatrickBateman]

I actually feel badly for Lu because she obviously had a very dark time in her life and leaned heavily on Beth during it. It seemed Beth was a good friend and was there for her however now Beth is just relishing telling the most embarrassing stories from that time. She always finds a way to tell some story or a detail, enough that I would make the person embarrassed. Talk about kicking a person while they're down and not having empathy.

I really hope someone can knock her down a few pegs at some point.

[pieinmyeye]

Oh, Lu. You came so close to me liking you again, but you really blew it towards the end. I don’t believe a word that came out of your mouth the last 15 minutes of the show.

[Chit Chat]

3 minutes ago, MrsPatrickBateman said:

It seemed Beth was a good friend and was there for her however now Beth is just relishing telling the most embarrassing stories from that time. She always finds a way to tell some story or a detail, enough that I would make the person embarrassed.

She wants to make sure that we all know exactly what she sacrificed in order to help LuAnn.  I guess LuAnn hasn't thanked her enough.  Sheesh. 

[tranquilidade]

2 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

She wants to make sure that we all know exactly what she sacrificed in order to help LuAnn.  I guess LuAnn hasn't thanked her enough.  Sheesh. 

Don't worry she kisses Bethenny's ass next week when Bethenny wiggles it in her face.

[njbchlover]

14 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

I had a Star Wars moment and thought of the Millennium Falcon.  😉  Our Noodle never fails to bring the funny.

If Wikipedia is correct and Tinsley has had some business ventures, why does Bethenny then smirk when she tries to explain it?  Bethenny, Dorinda & Sonja sat on the "we be bitches" couch.  They've been horrible!

Because NO ONE except Bethenny is allowed to have any type of business, successful or not.  NO ONE except Bethenny can be involved in branding or marketing.  NO ONE except Bethenny can slap their name on shit.

If I recall correctly, Tinsley was a "brand"  (with her handbags and as a Dior beauty ambassador) before Bethenny was trying to sell her all-natural cookies in grocery stores.  You know - back when she had a different face, and all she wanted to do was get married and have a baby and maybe a side business.

So, in Bethenny's world, if all of this happened before Bethenny made Skinnygirl a pseudo household name, it actually didn't happen.

Edited July 19, 2019 by njbchlover

[Gem 10]

Why all the beating up on Tinsley?  They wouldn’t stop.  From money to Scott, then the dog .. they all should be ashamed of themselves.  Talk about Luann;  I didn’t hear her say one bad thing about Tins.  The rest were animals.  Why was Bethenny laughing at her about the dog?  If I remember, she was filming her dog dying and was hysterical.  WTF.  Ramona really showed her stupidity tonight.  Dorinda was downright mean.  I think she is a jealous woman. A whole hour of fiasco.  Terrible.  Luann was the only Lady there tonight.

[Chit Chat]

1 minute ago, njbchlover said:

So, in Bethenny's world, if all of this happened before Bethenny made Skinnygirl a pseudo household name, it actually didn't happen.

She says she's all about female empowerment, but when it comes to someone else's accomplishments, she can be very dismissive and rude.  Way to support your fellow friend there, Bethenny. 

[njbchlover]

6 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

She wants to make sure that we all know exactly what she sacrificed in order to help LuAnn.  I guess LuAnn hasn't thanked her enough.  Sheesh. 

To be honest, I don't think that Luann has shown enough thankfulness or gratitude to Bethenny.  I hate that Bethenny thinks nothing of spilling secrets that should remain secret, but I also think that she did a WHOLE lot of stuff for LuAnn during her darkest moments.

[tranquilidade]

Just now, njbchlover said:

To be honest, I don't think that Luann has shown enough thankfulness or gratitude to Bethenny.  I hate that Bethenny thinks nothing of spilling secrets that should remain secret, but I also think that she did a WHOLE lot of stuff for LuAnn during her darkest moments.

Yes she did but oddly Bethenny said she did what she would have done for anyone which indicates that it wasn't ever about friendship with the one she called a snake and a whore in an earlier season.  In my view it was more about being a hero, superwoman, a goddess.  It was all about loving herself because that is what she is programmed to do with the way she grew up.  I think she was on her own way too much and now lacks the ability to really connect with people in anything other than a self serving way.  If kindness can make her look good, then she is kind but she is not kind because she is kindhearted. She proves with her lack of empathy she is cold.

[hoodooznoodooz]

38 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

I believe Luanne when she says she expends a lot of energy trying to maintain her sobriety. And I also think she's totally correct that none of the rest of these women have very little idea of how hard she works to maintain her sobriety. 

Well, she only has one month left. 

[Suckeredin]

Here’s what I learned tonight...

• Tinsley got grounded because she was bad but now she’s good so she got a raise in her allowance
• Ramona is feeling so good, she feeling like a Millenium
• Luanne is thinking about putting a little singing act together and maybe taking it on the road.  
• Bethenny is basically just narrating her own life now as one, long, on going monologue and we are all merely players in her story...
• Dorinda has a gross misunderstanding of the definition of the word “nice”.  And she sucks
• Sonja...was also there

Edited July 19, 2019 by Suckeredin

[Chit Chat]

2 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

To be honest, I don't think that Luann has shown enough thankfulness or gratitude to Bethenny.  I hate that Bethenny thinks nothing of spilling secrets that should remain secret, but I also think that she did a WHOLE lot of stuff for LuAnn during her darkest moments.

I can see that side of it, and I do think that LuAnn should be more grateful, but on the other hand, hearing LuAnn talk about how much she was struggling and was trying not to bother the ladies any more than she did, then to have them come at her drunk and with a drink in their hand shows how little understanding they truly have in regards to her trying to stay sober.

LuAnn tells them it's okay for them to drink, but if I had a friend who was struggling in this way, I would refrain from drinking in front of her.  These women don't seem capable of that though.  

I did like how Ramona told Bethenny that whenever she comes after her, it's with guns blazing and she's afraid of her!  Bethenny needed to hear how it feels to be on the receiving end of one of her rants!  Granted, Ramona needs a swift kick in the butt from time to time, but sometimes Bethenny goes off the rails.  It can be scary!

[eleanorofaquitaine]

1 minute ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Well, she only has one month left. 

She has one month left in terms of her legal issues but maintaining sobriety is a lifelong issue.

[mbaywife123]

Our crazy noodle has gone full on ROtini mode tonight and the sauce has definitely slipped off that noodle.

[Ms Blue Jay]

1 hour ago, pieinmyeye said:

I’m with Tinsley. You don’t talk about money and it is no ones business where she gets hers.

I also don't want to know if she's with Scott or not WHO CARES THESE WOMEN ARE ALL HORRIBLE TO HER and jealous they're AWFUL

Dorinda's the most awful, Sonja's the second most awful, and Bethenny's the third.  At least Ramona and Luann stayed out of it.  WHO GIVES A SHIT

1 hour ago, Straycat80 said:

Andy is really throwing a lot of shade at this reunion. 

Only if it's not directed at Bethenny.

[Chit Chat]

1 minute ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Dorinda's the most awful, Sonja's the second most awful, and Bethenny's the third.  At least Ramona and Luann stayed out of it.  WHO GIVES A SHIT

I didn't know that being friends with someone required that I print them out my bank statement!  That's pretty much what Dorinda wants her to do.  It's none of her damn business!  Being friends means sharing everyday experiences together, not financial ledgers.  

Stay true to yourself, Tinsley.   A lot of us out here like you just the way you are, and we don't give a rat's ass how you pay for your hotel room!  

[biakbiak]

14 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

She has one month left in terms of her legal issues but maintaining sobriety is a lifelong issue.

Based on how she was talking last week on WWHL, I don’t believe she is going to attempt to maintain that sobriety after her probation is over. I can so see her popping a cork as soon as it’s official.

Edited July 19, 2019 by biakbiak

[Yours Truly]

43 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I think the difference is Luanne doesn’t think she has a drinking problem therefore is tempted easier. She is only waiting till she’s off probation she’s gonna drink again 

But that’s the thing. I don’t really think lu has a drinking problem. I think it’s so dangerous to always slap “alcoholic” in a problem. Drinking was the symptom of Lu not handling the upheavals in her life well. In all of the seasons Lu’s been on there hasn’t been a hint of her being irresponsible with her drinking.  Maybe once or twice she was visibly more intoxicated than usually but I’ve never seen her be very messy. Just hamming it up like the rest of them. I like the idea that she seems more invested in WHAT was causing her to lose control and not allowing that one label encompass everything that was wrong with her. There’s a meme out there that lists vices and says they aren’t the gateway to XYZ but that trauma is the gateway drug to most addictions and vices etc etc and I really wish we would get away from the one size fits all diagnoses of substance/alcohol abuse. 

[Ms Blue Jay]

1 hour ago, njbchlover said:

They really should not show clips from previous reunions - it's amazing how different Bethenny and Ramona look.  

Bethenny's face is very different, and Ramona's body is completely changed.

Luann still looks the same, though.  That woman never ages!  

Ramona's face to me looks INCREDIBLY different.  A lot of work done, sorry not sorry.  And I kind of like Ramona.

I think Luann is always gorgeous with an amazing unbelievable body.

[Keywestclubkid]

5 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

But that’s the thing. I don’t really think lu has a drinking problem. I think it’s so dangerous to always slap “alcoholic” in a problem. Drinking was the symptom of Lu not handling the upheavals in her life well. In all of the seasons Lu’s been on there hasn’t been a hint of her being irresponsible with her drinking.  Maybe once or twice she was visibly more intoxicated than usually but I’ve never seen her be very messy. Just hamming it up like the rest of them. I like the idea that she seems more invested in WHAT was causing her to lose control and not allowing that one label encompass everything that was wrong with her. There’s a meme out there that lists vices and says they aren’t the gateway to XYZ but that trauma is the gateway drug to most addictions and vices etc etc and I really wish we would get away from the one size fits all diagnoses of substance/alcohol abuse. 

Wasn’t she falling in bushes and stuff? You haven’t seen her messy drunk? She’s a drunk. She just doesn’t think she’s one it’s always someone else causing her to do it. She thinks she can control it and obviously can’t and has been slipping. She has a countdown in her head to 5..4..3..2...1.. drink again. She basically has to keep herself sober just for this and that’s hard for her. Why if you aren’t an alcoholic would it be hard NOT to drink? You just don’t drink it’s not a struggle 

Edited July 19, 2019 by Keywestclubkid

[breezy424]

Not much else to add but I can't state it enough:  Shut up Beth.

And....I wish they showed a clip of Beth being on social media being hysterical about Cookie dying when she was making snarky faces when Tins was talking about calling 911 for Bambi.  I have no doubt that Beth would have called 911 if she had thought of it.

As Doris once said;  Money talks.  Wealth whispers.  Apparently not when it comes to Tins.  They all want access to Tin's bank statements.

Ro?  Really?  You lie a lot just like Beth exaggerates.  We got both your numbers.

[BluBrd47]

5 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

But that’s the thing. I don’t really think lu has a drinking problem. I think it’s so dangerous to always slap “alcoholic” in a problem. Drinking was the symptom of Lu not handling the upheavals in her life well. In all of the seasons Lu’s been on there hasn’t been a hint of her being irresponsible with her drinking.  Maybe once or twice she was visibly more intoxicated than usually but I’ve never seen her be very messy. Just hamming it up like the rest of them. I like the idea that she seems more invested in WHAT was causing her to lose control and not allowing that one label encompass everything that was wrong with her. There’s a meme out there that lists vices and says they aren’t the gateway to XYZ but that trauma is the gateway drug to most addictions and vices etc etc and I really wish we would get away from the one size fits all diagnoses of substance/alcohol abuse. 

Oh wow, as a former opiate abuser I can’t like this post enough. I find it so weird that LuAnn was the one who was forced to “get sober” when Sonja, Dorinda and Ramona have all shown patterns of seriously destructive drinking. But because LuAnn is the “alcoholic” it provides a good shield for them to hide under. I’ve also seen this pattern with the Beverly Hills ladies- a lot of them are heavy drinkers but since Kim Richards was designated “the addict” they are in the clear.

[Ms Blue Jay]

55 minutes ago, MrsPatrickBateman said:

I actually feel badly for Lu because she obviously had a very dark time in her life and leaned heavily on Beth during it. It seemed Beth was a good friend and was there for her however now Beth is just relishing telling the most embarrassing stories from that time. She always finds a way to tell some story or a detail, enough that I would make the person embarrassed. Talk about kicking a person while they're down and not having empathy.

I really hope someone can knock her down a few pegs at some point.

I think that this is the mark of a very disgusting person.

When you're at a low point and you trust someone by showing them the tough things you're going through, the worst parts of yourself, your insecurities, your flaws, your weaknesses.  When that person waits until you're in a different place and then throws those things back in your face - that person is evil, low, disgusting, and should never be trusted again.

I really, truly have always thought this and Bethenny is exemplary. 

Say what you will about Luann, but she wouldn't do this to Bethenny.  She'd bitch about the Fish Room and be narcissistic and self-involved, yes, but that's really the extent of her crimes.

Edited July 19, 2019 by Ms Blue Jay