The Marvel Cinematic Universe: The Avengers, etc.

[scarynikki12]

Holland is a lovely guy. Marvel should just invite him (and Zendaya, Marissa, and the other cast members) to their premieres and parties just because. 

[Wynterwolf]

Here is some info on 355.  It is filming right now (and based on some bts photos, Sebastian Stan seems to be playing a love interest for Jessica Chastain's character). 

[Perfect Xero]

5 hours ago, scarynikki12 said:

Holland is a lovely guy. Marvel should just invite him (and Zendaya, Marissa, and the other cast members) to their premieres and parties just because. 

Iron Man 4, starring Tom Holland as Peter Stark, Tony's long lost son who grew up in Queens with his Aunt June Reilly.

[JessePinkman]

First WandaVision poster

Their shadows hint at their original costumes (Wanda's headpiece!). Everything outside of the glow of the television is in black and white. 

[Dandesun]

2 hours ago, JessePinkman said:

First WandaVision poster

Their shadows hint at their original costumes (Wanda's headpiece!). Everything outside of the glow of the television is in black and white. 

This is interesting. Very interesting.

Also, the Falcon and Winter Soldier poster came out. Bucky's cut his hair. Millions have wept. But I bet Seb Stan is thrilled that he doesn't have to maintain the long hair.

[Spartan Girl]

I'm fine with Bucky's shorter hair.  Bout time he cleaned himself up.

[Wynterwolf]

Except they're "joking" that it wasn't "respectable" for a man to have long hair, so it had to go. Even as a "joke", that's problematic as fuck.  And they seem to be conflating "starting over" after trauma, with 'ignoring it ever happened and going back to the '40s (literally in Steve's case, figuratively in Bucky's) or in Wanda's case (mentally) to the '50's'.  I hope they take a MUCH more nuanced approach than that, but after what they did in Endgame, I am highly skeptical.   

Edited August 26, 2019 by Wynterwolf

[Danny Franks]

1 hour ago, Dandesun said:

This is interesting. Very interesting.

Also, the Falcon and Winter Soldier poster came out. Bucky's cut his hair. Millions have wept. But I bet Seb Stan is thrilled that he doesn't have to maintain the long hair.

He could have kept the beard, but good riddance to that long hair. It was looking worse each time he appeared. The comic book version of Bucky wouldn't have long hair, and I see no reason that the MCU one would either. He is a man formed in the 1930s and 40s, no matter how much people might want to ignore it. His attitudes towards fashion, culture, music and everything else will be defined by his experiences growing up, and while he may come to embrace a lot of modern norms, he hasn't done it yet.

Edited August 26, 2019 by Danny Franks

[Kel Varnsen]

15 minutes ago, Danny Franks said:

The comic book version of Bucky wouldn't have long hair, and I see no reason that the MCU one would either. He is a man formed in the 1930s and 40s, no matter how much people might want to ignore it. His attitudes towards fashion, culture, music and everything else will be defined by his experiences growing up, and while he may come to embrace a lot of modern norms, he hasn't done it yet.

Not just a man from that era but a soldier. Surely he would have seen the value of keeping his hair short for combat situations.

[festivus]

I had to go over to reddit to find the poster. It's kind of underwhelming compared to the WandaVision one which has me intrigued. I have no idea where they're going with that show but the casting is interesting.

The F & WS gets a little more interesting when you look at it. Falcon is not holding the shield but it's in the background with the clouds. I don't mind that SS has short hair again but I wish it was more floppy like comic Bucky's hair. I'm not really a fan of the slicked back look that guys wear these days. I honestly wouldn't mind seeing that domino mask either. I think SS could pull off that look. 

[Morrigan2575]

9 minutes ago, festivus said:

Falcon is not holding the shield but it's in the background with the clouds.

There's also Falcon's silhouette flying through the Shield. I like it.  I also like Bucky's shorter hair but I agree, keep the beard. 

Edited August 26, 2019 by Morrigan2575

[Starfish35]

I am sooooo thankful they’re letting Sebastian Stan keep the short hair - he looks so much better IMO.  I hated the long hair so much.  I was startled last year when I saw a pic of him with short hair on the Infinity War red carpet, because after four years of seeing Bucky look like Grumpy Cat (RIP), I’d seriously forgotten that SS is actually a pretty good looking guy. 😂

[swanpride]

Above all I don't get why he should keep the Winter Soldier look.

[festivus]

Grumpy cat, lol. I do like Bucky with the long hair (child of the 70s and 80s here) but I can see why they're going for the short hair look for the show. I liked it more in WS when I think it was mostly Sebastian's hair than I did in IW.

[Starfish35]

3 minutes ago, festivus said:

 I liked it more in WS when I think it was mostly Sebastian's hair than I did in IW.

Oh yeah, the IW wig(s) were bad, particularly the one in the scene where he greets Steve.  That one did not look like his real hair at all.

[Dandesun]

2 hours ago, Starfish35 said:

Oh yeah, the IW wig(s) were bad, particularly the one in the scene where he greets Steve.  That one did not look like his real hair at all.

What was funny to me was that it totally looked like he got a wash and blow-out in order to look pretty when he met Steve again.

Obviously, these guys will do what they need to do for a part (although Karen Gillan expressing happiness at not having to shave her head to play Nebula is understandable) put given what you see them default to when they aren't doing something specific for a role kind of tells you what they prefer.

Stan clearly likes his hair short (even after his experimental days of bleach blondness) whereas Chris Evans so wants to keep his beard goddammit!! I will express a fondness for longer haired Bucky but, hey, he looks damn good either way so whatever.

As for what they say about it in the show. *shrug* Guess we'll see. I can appreciate Bucky wanting to go back to what HE wants as a reclaiming his life again and not living under the shadow of what Hydra made him or actively working against what Hydra did to him. Even a cosmetic change matters... it's why we usually change our hair after a break-up anyway.

[Jazzy24]

I’m not a fan of Kit Harrington at all(I actually don’t think I’m a fan of any of the GOT actors besides Madden. The show really soured me on all things connected to it over the years)I might sound mean but I don’t want him in the MCU at all. 

I range from either outright love, like and they good with the MCU actors but Kit is the first one I actively dislike. Ugh. 

As long as he doesn’t show up in Captain Marvel, Black Panther, The Fantastic Four and the X-Men than I’m good. 

[Bruinsfan]

I've disliked Gwyneth Paltrow from the very start of the MCU, and Renner from not long after. But I must admit both are usually good in their roles. Harrington is kind of the opposite—I have no beef with him offscreen, but I don't think he's a good actor at all, and the name recognition isn't worth breaking immersion in the story if he and Madden appear onscreen together.

[swanpride]

Honestly, I don't really pay that much attention to what actors do off-screen, and I also don't judge an actor before I have seen said actor in a specific role, unless I have already a pretty huge sample size of him (or her).

But then, I also never bothered with Game of Thrones. I had already dropped the book series when the TV version started.

[JessePinkman]

I never watched Game of Thrones so all I can say is that Kit Harrington is a cutie and Richard Madden was excellent in Bodyguard (and is also a cutie).

Speaking of The Eternals, I like the idea that someone at Marvel thought "Did we really waste all of Gemma Chan's beauty on a throwaway role covered in blue paint? This must be rectified!".

Edited August 28, 2019 by JessePinkman

[Morrigan2575]

23 minutes ago, swanpride said:

Honestly, I don't really pay that much attention to what actors do off-screen, and I also don't judge an actor before I have seen said actor in a specific role, unless I have already a pretty huge sample size of him (or her).

But then, I also never bothered with Game of Thrones. I had already dropped the book series when the TV version started.

GoT and that godawful Pompei pretty much tell you all you need to know about Kit's acting "range" pretty to look at, not much of an actor. I'm pretty sure his looks and name recognition are the only reasons he keeps getting big jobs (same with Emilia Clarke, who is just as wooden).

Granted Dane Witman is pretty much a boring/wooden character, so i can see why Kit got the job, just play a modern day Jon Snow who uses a black lightsaber instead of a sword.  Hopefully, they did a chem test with Gemma since Dane/Sersi assuming they even go there in the MCU.  

You know what i'm wondering?  In the comics, the Avengers team is much larger than the MCU.  The MCU basically treated the Avengers as just Iron Man, Cap, Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye and Widow.  With all of these characters (presumably) retiring from the Avengers.  Will next Avengers lineup be larger (mini Endgame) or will it be more limited (to the Solo Movie leads (Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Doctor Strange, maybe Ant-Man/Wasp and Scarlet Witch). Black Knight and Sersi are/were comics Avengers so will they be MCU Avengers?  

Edited August 27, 2019 by Morrigan2575

[festivus]

I'm more excited about this Eternals movie than Black Widow despite knowing absolutely nothing about them. I'm hoping this will be a GotG situation where I knew nothing going into that movie and came out blown away. BW just feels like it's too late. I wanted this movie years ago.

I agree about Kit's acting not being all that and I doubt he'll be any better in this movie but it doesn't bother me that he's in the movie.  OTOH, Richard Madden is awesome. Don't walk, run to watch Bodyguard if you haven't seen it. 

Oh and I agree about them probably realizing they didn't want to waste Gemma Chan. She was my favorite part of Crazy Rich Asians.

[Jazzy24]

Kit is not even physically attractive IMO. I don’t find any GOT actors/actresses attractive except Madden. I fell in love with Madden during Disney’s 2015 Cinderella live action he was just so charming. And Finn Jones is another GOT actor I like but that’s it. 

The showed really put me off on these actors and actresses ugh. I don’t dislike them but I don’t necessarily care for them either and have no desire to follow them in their other work. 

Im being completely unfair and unreasonable and will try my best to be objective and enjoy the movie. I wish Kit all the luck cause I love Black Knight and hope he does great. 

[Enigma X]

I was looking forward to The Eternals more than the other projects before I even knew the cast. I just have a thing for ensembles. I was a fan of GoT too. So, I am not mad at the casting. Yay me!

[Jenniferbug]

I am not familiar with The Eternals, so I could be concerned for nothing, but this seems like a really huge cast of characters to have to introduce and establish in one movie, particularly since none of them have the benefit of being introduced in previous MCU movies. I worry that they won't have the time to give them distinct personalities, which would be a huge shame given such a diverse cast.

[Dandesun]

They were able to introduce the Guardians pretty effectively. I'm not too worried about it.

[Jenniferbug]

Isn't this cast twice the size of Guardians though? Or am I not understanding who is a main character versus who is a secondary character in The Eternals? 

[Raja]

1 hour ago, Morrigan2575 said:

You know what i'm wondering?  In the comics, the Avengers team is much larger than the MCU.  The MCU basically treated the Avengers as just Iron Man, Cap, Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye and Widow.  With all of these characters (presumably) retiring from the Avengers.  Will next Avengers lineup be larger (mini Endgame) or will it be more limited (to the Solo Movie leads (Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Doctor Strange, maybe Ant-Man/Wasp and Scarlet Witch). Black Knight and Sersi are/were comics Avengers so will they be MCU Avengers?  

They started with the original comics Avengers, except Ant-Man and the Wasp as they did not have those characters rights yet.

I was sure one Ant-Man and one Wasp was going to survive the snapture in Ant-Man and the Wasp. But the 5 years needed a rat instead 

[Morrigan2575]

13 minutes ago, Raja said:

They started with the original comics Avengers, except Ant-Man and the Wasp as they did not have those characters rights yet.

True. 

I was more wondering how they were going to do it in Phase 4 or Phase 5.  Phase 1, was Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, Cap solo movies leading into Avengers.  Will MCU follow the same formula for Avengers 2.0?  Or will they be more liberal in The Avengers lineup now that the world is built?  

Sorry if that wasn't clear, i was sort of rambling in my thoughts.

[swanpride]

That wasn't really a matter of character rights and more that they wanted Wright to make the movie, but he kept delaying it in favour of other projects.

[Raja]

1 hour ago, swanpride said:

That wasn't really a matter of character rights and more that they wanted Wright to make the movie, but he kept delaying it in favour of other projects.

Well they avoided stuff with Ant-Man like Captain Marvel seeming different in her own movie than in Endgame or the Wakandans not bringing their all in Infinity War because the Russo's just didn't know

[Danny Franks]

5 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said:

GoT and that godawful Pompei pretty much tell you all you need to know about Kit's acting "range" pretty to look at, not much of an actor. I'm pretty sure his looks and name recognition are the only reasons he keeps getting big jobs (same with Emilia Clarke, who is just as wooden).

And 7 Days In Hell showed that he can do more than just be the taciturn, brooding hero, when the material asks for it. He's not going to win any Oscars, that's not the sort of acting an MCU movie requires, so I don't see his presence being a big problem. Especially not for what will be a secondary role, at best.

And Black Knight was actually a pretty interesting character in the Captain Britain and MI13 book from a few years ago (which featured another Muslim woman in a lead role - Dr. Faiza Hussain).

5 hours ago, festivus said:

I'm more excited about this Eternals movie than Black Widow despite knowing absolutely nothing about them. I'm hoping this will be a GotG situation where I knew nothing going into that movie and came out blown away. BW just feels like it's too late. I wanted this movie years ago.

While I agree the movie is a few years late (they should have done it after either Winter Soldier or Civil War) I still really want to see the Black Widow movie, and I think it will have the intention of setting up Yelena Belova to be used in MCU projects moving forward. And I love the idea of David Harbour playing a burned out old superhero.

Unfortunately, I think the take they appear to be using is less interesting (to me) than the idea I had for a Black Widow movie, but I don't get paid to write movies, so what do I know?

Edited August 27, 2019 by Danny Franks

[Morrigan2575]

11 minutes ago, Danny Franks said:

And 7 Days In Hell showed that he can do more than just be the taciturn, brooding hero, when the material asks for it. He's not going to win any Oscars, that's not the sort of acting an MCU movie requires, so I don't see his presence being a big problem. Especially not for what will be a secondary role, at best.

And Black Knight was actually a pretty interesting character in the Captain Britain and MI13 book from a few years ago (which featured another Muslim woman in a lead role - Dr. Faiza Hussain).

If you say so. I've never been impressed by anything. I'm not bitching about him being in the movie, he's certainly not going to ruin it but, he's never done anything that impressed me. Even his VO work is just there. He's like Orlando Bloom, pretty to look at.but, otherwise he's a block of wood.

As for Black Knight I only know him from the late 90s Avengers with the Love Quadrangle and Proctor storyline and, he wasn't a particularly interesting character

Edited August 27, 2019 by Morrigan2575

[johntfs]

On 8/24/2019 at 6:22 PM, scarynikki12 said:

Holland is a lovely guy. Marvel should just invite him (and Zendaya, Marissa, and the other cast members) to their premieres and parties just because. 

I don't suppose anyone has started a petition for Disney to just buy out and take over Sony (or at least that portion of the company that makes films) so we can keep Spidey and especially Tom Holland and Zendaya in the MCU.

[Jazzy24]

5 hours ago, johntfs said:

I don't suppose anyone has started a petition for Disney to just buy out and take over Sony (or at least that portion of the company that makes films) so we can keep Spidey and especially Tom Holland and Zendaya in the MCU.

I doubt Disney would buy Sony and if they could I wouldn’t want that, not with their recent purchase of FOX. 

Im sad that Holland and Spider-Man is out of the movies and though I don’t care for non Marvel Studio movies, I wish Sony all the best with going forward. I just won’t be with them because I prefer my Spider-Man to be with the other Marvel characters. 

Anyways give or take a few years and the way Sony is doing money wise they will be selling soon from what I hear and Spider-Man movies rights will revert back to Disney. 

[swanpride]

No, they won't. If Sony sells the whole studio, the right will move with it. They can't sell the rights separately, but they are part of the package.

[Jazzy24]

10 minutes ago, swanpride said:

No, they won't. If Sony sells the whole studio, the right will move with it. They can't sell the rights separately, but they are part of the package.

Yes they will. The deal was that Spider-Man be made by SONY and SONY only. If another studio bought them and dismantled Sony than the rights would revert back to Marvel. 

Just like if some other studio bought FOX and dismantled it the X-Man and FF would revert back to Marvel. 

And I'm sure that if Sony was selling the movie brand that yes Disney/Marvel would step in and buy Spider-Man back and they could. 

[swanpride]

Another studio wouldn't dismantle Sony, though, just like Disney didn't dismantle Fox.

[Jazzy24]

16 minutes ago, swanpride said:

Another studio wouldn't dismantle Sony, though, just like Disney didn't dismantle Fox.

They could but I think even than Disney would step in and buy back Spider-Man. 

[Morrigan2575]

It's all hypothetical and, I'm not sure any of this matters to Disney/Marvel right now. They got Spider-Man back even if it was on the short-term, they can play the waiting game now. They have X-Men/FF/Deadpool to integrate back into the MCU. Which actually gives them a larger Galactic Universe with the Shi'ar and Star Jammers. Plus we're still waiting on Warlock and maybe even Magnus/Goddess and Infinity Watch (Drax, Gamora, Moondragon).

Disney/Marvel have enough on their plates to last another 10 years and, who knows maybe by 2030 Sony will be looking to partner again.

[JessePinkman]

I can't stand this dude. No one wants a Drax solo movie. He's fine in a group and in that only in small doses. 2 hours of Drax acting like an idiot is not my idea of a good time. 

Edited August 29, 2019 by JessePinkman

[Morrigan2575]

Yeah. I don't think Drax needs or deserves a solo movie. Plenty of other characters I'd rather see explored

[Jenniferbug]

39 minutes ago, JessePinkman said:

I can't stand this dude. No one wants a Drax solo movie. He's fine in a group and in that only in small doses. 2 hours of Drax acting like an idiot is not my idea of a good time. 

He really doesn't seem to understand the expression "don't bite the hand that feeds you".

[swanpride]

that's strange...Batista was in the past pretty realistic about his acting abilities. Either he got too much praise or he doesn't realize that carrying a movie is more difficult than just being in one.

[Bruinsfan]

Yeah... I was surprised by how well he did an understated guest role in Blade Runner 2049, but that's not an indication he could carry a whole movie by himself, and Drax as a character sure as hell can't.

[xaxat]

Umm, did China just find the Blue Area?

China's Lunar Rover Has Found Something Weird on the Far Side of the Moon

(I wonder how much Marvel is regretting green lighting that shitty Inhumans TV show.)

[Bruinsfan]

Not at all, I'm betting. For what looked like a $19.95 production budget and barely a ripple in the popular consciousness, they got to remove Perlmutter's interference from MCU development.

[benteen]

One of the first comic books I ever read was Avengers #225, which featured the return of The Black Knight.  So I'm definitely interested in seeing how he'll be on the big screen.

[Kel Varnsen]

13 hours ago, Bruinsfan said:

Not at all, I'm betting. For what looked like a $19.95 production budget and barely a ripple in the popular consciousness, they got to remove Perlmutter's interference from MCU development.

Honestly I get the feeling that if Feige said he wanted Blackbolt to be in his Fantastic 4 movie but he wanted to completely ignore the show and recast the character, no one at Disney would be against it.

[Morrigan2575]

3 hours ago, benteen said:

One of the first comic books I ever read was Avengers #225, which featured the return of The Black Knight.  So I'm definitely interested in seeing how he'll be on the big screen.

I had to Google that one. Yikes on that old Costume, his late 90s one was better (don't know what he looks like now).

Speaking of late 90s comics...wht was up with all the Bomber Jackets? 

Edited September 3, 2019 by Morrigan2575