"The View": Week Of 11/26/2018

[GHScorpiosRule]

  On 11/27/2018 at 3:23 AM, jumper sage said:

How do you get emoticons on here?

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From my iPhone/emoji keyboard 

Or a site called emojis something or other where you can copy and paste if you’re using a desktop or laptop 

[tinkerbell]

  On 11/27/2018 at 12:52 AM, Haleth said:

Here is the entire performance.  It's about the most chaste "making out" I've seen.  Like I said above, I doubt Sunny even saw it.

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Thanks for posting this.  What a cute dance number.  dancers were young, old, Black, White, fat, thin, gay, straight -  all dancing.  A nice change from the norm. 

I finally saw the first segment.  Meghan missed the point of thanksgiving with her "it's OK if you're not happy."  Thanksgiving is not about being bubbly and happy all the time.   It can be a time for quiet reflection of the things you ARE thankful for.  

THe segment about women taking their husband's last name -  Meghan says in her generation, women are keeping their own name,  she doesn't know ANYONE who changed their last name when they got married. (bullshit)    Sunny reads a statistic that " only 20% of women married in recent years have KEPT their last name."  And Meghan says "there you go!"  As if Sunny just confirmed what she had said, when actually Sunny's statistic CONTRADICTED Meghan's point. 

[deirdra]

  On 11/27/2018 at 3:09 AM, OnTime said:

Well, to be correct , it should say "The second Mrs. Domenech". 

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And bleached blonde

[deirdra]

  On 11/27/2018 at 4:16 AM, tinkerbell said:

THe segment about women taking their husband's last name -  Meghan says in her generation, women are keeping their own name,  she doesn't know ANYONE who changed their last name when they got married. (bullshit)    Sunny reads a statistic that " only 20% of women married in recent years have KEPT their last name."  And Meghan says "there you go!"  As if Sunny just confirmed what she had said, when actually Sunny's statistic CONTRADICTED Meghan's point. 

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Or it confirms that Meghan has very few true friends her own age.

Edited November 27, 2018 by deirdra

[jumper sage]

  On 11/27/2018 at 4:14 AM, GHScorpiosRule said:

From my iPhone/emoji keyboard 

Or a site called emojis something or other where you can copy and paste if you’re using a desktop or laptop 

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I'll try it.  Seems very complicated for a laptop.

[JakeyJokes]

  On 11/27/2018 at 12:48 AM, Apprentice79 said:

I think that you can be uncomfortable with homosexuality and not be homophobic. Change takes time and as long as you are not trying to hurt LGBT people physically and legislatively. I think that Sunny is just a prude. I remember her having a meltdown over condoms being available in the bathroom of her son's high school.  

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I remember when Dana Perino was on last, and Sunny was not having Dana's public lovefest of Nikki Haley, in part because of Haley's dismal record on gay rights. I'm with you on this one.

[suomi]

  On 11/26/2018 at 9:01 PM, Jaded said:

Tomorrow is the 3rd anniversary of my Mom's death from kidney cancer that had spread to other places including her brain. I was her sole caregiver for years before that ... My Mom died on Black Friday in 2015 and after the funeral home came to get her and the lady from the hospice who wasn't the nurse or aide left I was all alone with nobody to call or to come over to comfort me. I called the crisis line at the local mental health center because I was upset, scared and my anxiety was off the wall only to be told my the lady manning it that if I wanted to be around people I could go stay in a hotel. Then she told me since I wasn't suicidal she couldn't spend anytime speaking with me and hung up. I wasn't even on the phone with her for three minutes and she didn't even say she was sorry that my Mom had literally just died a few hours before.

I apologize for the length of my post and mentioning so much personal stuff.

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Former hospice CNA here. I am so sorry for your loss, and sad and angry that you had a cold and negative experience with hospice care (AND the damn crisis line!). The beauty of hospice is that it's (supposed to be) about the family as much as the patient. I can't speak to weekly/bi-weekly with your mom's nurse (altho I would love to) but there should have been a CNA in your home every day of the week. Shoot, when the end drew near, my favorite nurse sometimes ordered CNAs daily x2 or x3 or assigned them in 3-4 hour blocks. Whatever Served The Family Best because by that time the patients were usually blessedly oblivious (altho not always). She did that when there was a lone caregiver (like you) or when friends/family who had been spelling each other needed relief or were just plain burned out. CNAs are a hospice nurse's eyes and ears and they cannot possibly know what is needed if a CNA is not observing every single day of the journey. If it was your desire, someone on the care team (looking at you, Nurse) should have made every reasonable effort to be there with you and your mom at the very end. And especially the next day, and the day after that, if that's what you needed. And the following week and the next month. You are entitled to counseling from the social worker or bereavement specialist prior to the death; you are entitled to bereavement visits for at least one year following the loss of your loved one. (I visited families as much as 2 years later but didn't turn in the paperwork because I didn't want the agency billing for what was in my heart. That was strictly between me and the family). Your mom's social worker (or a reasonable substitute) belongs to you for a year for other reasons as well, such as filling out forms related to death benefits or cremation/burial or insurance billing issues. Or just to talk. Sometimes an experienced hospice volunteer steps in for those things but, either way, the agency should provide an advocate for you according to your needs. Most agencies host an annual event, recognizing by name every patient who passed during the previous year, which provides an opportunity for families to meet and acknowledge each other. Agencies do that for two reasons: because some of the families and all of the care teams need it and because families tend to use an agency again when they've had a good experience. I realize that too much time has elapsed for this to help you but I hope anyone else who reads this will see what is available. Ripples in a pond, right? And again, Jaded, I am so sorry for your horrible experience. Yes, OK, there are variables because of insurance - is there only Medicaid, or only Medicare or is there also secondary insurance? Are you, Universe forbid, self-pay? Every agency should be willing to eat random costs here and there for a patient here and there because, believe me, they are making bank. I am fuming, can you tell? Gah! If you're in this situation and you're not getting this kind of attention and assistance, complain to your agency's hospice care director (they all have one) or switch to another agency. (When your loved one is on home care/rehab care, complain to the home care director). Even the lazy and cold hearted agencies get their asses in gear right quick when the family mentions leaving their service because the word BILLING flashes in front of their eyes. Shouldn't be that way but health care is a for-profit business and sometimes it's like that. Unfortunately. (The best thing about my years in hospice is that I no longer fear my own death. The method of my death, yeah, but not the end itself). 

You apologized for sharing so much personal stuff in your long (and heartfelt) post ... which reminded me that my Nana used to say Stop It. Don't Make Me Get Up. Nuh Uh. You Don't Want That, No Ma'am, You Don't. LOL. ;-)

Speaking to NutMeg's downer today, I would love to tell her who had a shitty Thanksgiving: an old friend who 12 days ago lost her 44-year-old daughter to cancer (mother of 3 - 2 still at home - and grandmother of 3). We raised our daughters together and now hers is gone and this is devastating. Compared to that, NutMeg's Turkey Day was a cakewalk. Pffftt. 

[Jaded]

Thank you @suomi and everyone else who responded to my post.

I was looking into changing hospice companies but my Mom didn't live long enough for it to happen. I only let their chaplain come out once because he said he had to. Once I accidentally slipped and mentioned not being religious he tried to recruit me into watching the local broadcast of the church he attended which luckily wasn't available to me, he also recommended watching it online and then preached at me for awhile saying I could call god "Daddy". I called about him and told them I didn't want him coming back out. The social worker was a girl who was just out of school in her early 20's who was nice enough but would call her parents if she didn't know something. I don't get out of the house a lot and that company gave me the impression that since I was home all the time I didn't really need relief time. They were also really understaffed which I didn't know until after they started coming for a bit. After my Mom died the only aftercare they offered was that social worker or the chaplain. I let the social worker come out a few times and she would bring the volunteer director along with a volunteer and lunch from a local Mexican place. She and the director knew I didn't get out much and was alone most of the time. I never went to any grief support meetings because the only one I could find was  near me was at a church and ending soon. It was some kind of meeting where they had people purchase a workbook to use during the weeks of meetings. I think it was called GriefShare. I found a support group chat online and a couple Facebook groups which helped. I had been going to live chats on a cancer site called The Cancer Support Community which was related to Gilda's Club for caregivers and then transferred to the left behind one. All the chats on that site were discontinued not much later. (The bad luck I deal with a lot)

I'm putting this second long part of my post under a spoiler tag since it might upset some. 
 

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On Thanksgiving I called the on call nurse because my Mom started coughing while the person they sent to bathe her on Thanksgiving said I needed to in a concerned way. Nobody told me beforehand what that kind of coughing was signaling the start of. The first time I called the nurse she had me moving the head of the bed up down to see if that stopped the coughing then asked if we had cough syrup which we did so I gave her some which stopped the coughing for awhile. I called her back a 2nd time but I can't remember if that was due to the coughing or something else. Late that night going into the next day Friday she started coughing again and nothing I did stopped it. I called that nurse back again told her the coughing wouldn't stop, that I didn't know what else to do and told her I was going to hold the phone up to my Mom's head so she could hear what I was. That was when she finally said she would come out but it would be over an hour or more until she could so so. It was over an hour before she got there and when she did she spent an extended amount of time in my Mom's room.

The nurse actually changed my Mom's diaper while she was in there. She asked about the little bottle of stuff I was given when my Mom got home from the hospital almost a month before when they came to register her. I was so frazzled I had completely forgotten about it. It was the stuff to be put under the tongue when that certain signalling cough started. (I know there's a name for it but I hate it) The nurse then told me that my Mom didn't have much time left and asked if I still wanted the other person to come later in the day to check on us which I said I did. When the other lady came later in the day she went to my Mom's room and turned off the oxygen machine so I kind of knew what had happened before she came into the den to tell me. She gave me a look kind of like she felt so bad for me and didn't want to say it so I said to her that I knew. She took care of some stuff regarding my Mom before she'd let me come in the room so after that she and I stayed in there until the funeral home people came. Then she stayed for a bit after before leaving I had to remind her to destroy the bottle of pain meds in the fridge before she left. She was really nice and was more preoccupied by the fact that she was hoping I'd be ok after she left. If my Mom hadn't died on that day I would have gone for 4 days without any help. That weekend and the Monday/Tuesday of the following week due to holiday scheduling on their part and them being understaffed as I mentioned before.

What I didn't mention before was that when they came to register my Mom it wasn't until really late in the day to the point where didn't think anyone was coming. She got registered on a Friday and they were going to leave me that entire weekend with nobody coming out and the guy who did the registration didn't show me how to do anything. I was so frazzled I called the office and got whoever was on phone answering duty and the guy felt bad for me so he sent an aide out. It turned out the aide was on her way to a relative's birthday party in a neighboring city but said she'd come when the guy called her. That aide showed me how to do the diaper changing and whatnot. The first nurse came that Monday while another aide was there and while my nose was still bleeding. It had started a couple hours before they got there and continued while they were there even after I did all the nurse recommended. They left me while I was still bleeding. When it still didn't quit almost two hours later I called the on duty person and said I needed to go to the hospital. The same aide came back out and stayed with my Mom until I got back. I went by ambulance and the hospital had to try three different methods to get the bleeding to stop. The 3rd thing they tried seemed to work so they packed my nose and sent me home. I've only gotten nosebleeds like that when I've been under extreme stress. The nurse that left me bleeding ended up being one I called about due to her telling me I wasn't feeding my Mom the right kind of food in what seemed like a rude way. My Mom barely wanted to eat and I wasn't going to force her. They ended up sending out another nurse who was the one who came for most of the time. The on call nurse that I talked about above was the one that I called about that got replaced. When she came out that night she asked why I had called asking for someone else before and I honestly told her the truth. She apologized saying she was sorry if she came across as rude, that I could have told her what she said made me feel like and she would have understood. In that moment I when she was so nice to me I kind of wondered what would have happened if I hadn't replaced her. The hospice we used was the one that was recommended by my Mom's cancer doctor and looking back I now wonder if she was getting kickbacks for referring patients to them.

Oh and someone earlier in this thread mentioned they were hoping Joy wasn't loosing her faculties. I have honestly been worried about that since this season started. There were times where she's behaved and reacted differently then she ever has before. I know a lot of us were speculating that it could be stress due to what's going on in the world or RBM's behavior on stage and behind the scenes. I'm hoping it's situational and not due to her health but would prefer it was neither at all. Sometimes it seems like RBM takes advantage of the situation when she specifically targets Joy. I've rarely watched since this season started but have still seen RBM acting like that on occasion when I have.

Edited November 27, 2018 by Jaded

[tribeca]

I swear I thought joy was about to slip up and out Abby being pregnant.   Actually watched that a few times to see if she did let it out.   I know nothing but it does look like she is expecting.  Or maybe not.   Guess we will find out in nine months lol.  

  I didn’t really find what Sunny said about the kiss that bad however I wonder how she explained to her kids that she announces on TV that her and her husband have sex in every room in the house.   

Edited November 27, 2018 by tribeca

[Coffeewinewater]

  On 11/27/2018 at 4:16 AM, tinkerbell said:

Thanks for posting this.  What a cute dance number.  dancers were young, old, Black, White, fat, thin, gay, straight -  all dancing.  A nice change from the norm. 

I finally saw the first segment.  Meghan missed the point of thanksgiving with her "it's OK if you're not happy."  Thanksgiving is not about being bubbly and happy all the time.   It can be a time for quiet reflection of the things you ARE thankful for. 

THe segment about women taking their husband's last name -  Meghan says in her generation, women are keeping their own name,  she doesn't know ANYONE who changed their last name when they got married. (bullshit)    Sunny reads a statistic that " only 20% of women married in recent years have KEPT their last name."  And Meghan says "there you go!"  As if Sunny just confirmed what she had said, when actually Sunny's statistic CONTRADICTED Meghan's point. 

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Exactly.  There is always something to be thankful for always, always. And that is what the grinch that stole Thanksgiving could have focused on. She still has her mother (who I'm sure is also going through it, Losing her husband and all). MM has family, wealth and health to be thankful for. Instead she focused on what she no longer has.

Edited November 27, 2018 by Coffeewinewater

[blondiec0332]

Sunny being uncomfortable watching a same sex couple kiss on TV is fine. Sunny thinking because she is uncomfortable a same sex couple kissing shouldn't be seen on TV is not fine.

 Sunny has shown in the past to be in favor of LGTBQ rights so her reaction to the kiss threw me.

[Haleth]

I really think Sunny's issue is with any PDA, not that it was a same sex couple.  She said she doesn't like to see anyone "making out" on tv.  How do you explain it to the children? <shrug>

[blondiec0332]

  On 11/27/2018 at 1:38 PM, Haleth said:

I really think Sunny's issue is with any PDA, not that it was a same sex couple.  She said she doesn't like to see anyone "making out" on tv.  How do you explain it to the children? <shrug>

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Sunny's children are not pre-schoolers.  Her son is a teenager.  And I seriously doubt her children haven't been exposed to PDA's of any couples.  It just seemed odd for Sunny to find the kiss troubling.

[Apprentice79]

  On 11/27/2018 at 8:09 AM, Jaded said:

Thank you @suomi and everyone else who responded to my post.

I was looking into changing hospice companies but my Mom didn't live long enough for it to happen. I only let their chaplain come out once because he said he had to. Once I accidentally slipped and mentioned not being religious he tried to recruit me into watching the local broadcast of the church he attended which luckily wasn't available to me, he also recommended watching it online and then preached at me for awhile saying I could call god "Daddy". I called about him and told them I didn't want him coming back out. The social worker was a girl who was just out of school in her early 20's who was nice enough but would call her parents if she didn't know something. I don't get out of the house a lot and that company gave me the impression that since I was home all the time I didn't really need relief time. They were also really understaffed which I didn't know until after they started coming for a bit. After my Mom died the only aftercare they offered was that social worker or the chaplain. I let the social worker come out a few times and she would bring the volunteer director along with a volunteer and lunch from a local Mexican place. She and the director knew I didn't get out much and was alone most of the time. I never went to any grief support meetings because the only one I could find was  near me was at a church and ending soon. It was some kind of meeting where they had people purchase a workbook to use during the weeks of meetings. I think it was called GriefShare. I found a support group chat online and a couple Facebook groups which helped. I had been going to live chats on a cancer site called The Cancer Support Community which was related to Gilda's Club for caregivers and then transferred to the left behind one. All the chats on that site were discontinued not much later. (The bad luck I deal with a lot)

I'm putting this second long part of my post under a spoiler tag since it might upset some. 
 

  Reveal spoiler

On Thanksgiving I called the on call nurse because my Mom started coughing while the person they sent to bathe her on Thanksgiving said I needed to in a concerned way. Nobody told me beforehand what that kind of coughing was signaling the start of. The first time I called the nurse she had me moving the head of the bed up down to see if that stopped the coughing then asked if we had cough syrup which we did so I gave her some which stopped the coughing for awhile. I called her back a 2nd time but I can't remember if that was due to the coughing or something else. Late that night going into the next day Friday she started coughing again and nothing I did stopped it. I called that nurse back again told her the coughing wouldn't stop, that I didn't know what else to do and told her I was going to hold the phone up to my Mom's head so she could hear what I was. That was when she finally said she would come out but it would be over an hour or more until she could so so. It was over an hour before she got there and when she did she spent an extended amount of time in my Mom's room.

The nurse actually changed my Mom's diaper while she was in there. She asked about the little bottle of stuff I was given when my Mom got home from the hospital almost a month before when they came to register her. I was so frazzled I had completely forgotten about it. It was the stuff to be put under the tongue when that certain signalling cough started. (I know there's a name for it but I hate it) The nurse then told me that my Mom didn't have much time left and asked if I still wanted the other person to come later in the day to check on us which I said I did. When the other lady came later in the day she went to my Mom's room and turned off the oxygen machine so I kind of knew what had happened before she came into the den to tell me. She gave me a look kind of like she felt so bad for me and didn't want to say it so I said to her that I knew. She took care of some stuff regarding my Mom before she'd let me come in the room so after that she and I stayed in there until the funeral home people came. Then she stayed for a bit after before leaving I had to remind her to destroy the bottle of pain meds in the fridge before she left. She was really nice and was more preoccupied by the fact that she was hoping I'd be ok after she left.

What I didn't mention before was that when they came to register my Mom it wasn't until really late in the day to the point where didn't think anyone was coming. She got registered on a Friday and they were going to leave me that entire weekend with nobody coming out and the guy who did the registration didn't show me how to do anything. I was so frazzled I called the office and got whoever was on phone answering duty and the guy felt bad for me so he sent an aide out. It turned out the aide was on her way to a relative's birthday party in a neighboring city but said she'd come when the guy called her. That aide showed me how to do the diaper changing and whatnot. The first nurse came that Monday while another aide was there and while my nose was still bleeding. It had started a couple hours before they got there and continued while they were there even after I did all the nurse recommended. They left me while I was still bleeding. When it still didn't quit almost two hours later I called the on duty person and said I needed to go to the hospital. The same aide came back out and stayed with my Mom until I got back. I went by ambulance and the hospital had to try three different methods to get the bleeding to stop. The 3rd thing they tried seemed to work so they packed my nose and sent me home. I've only gotten nosebleeds like that when I've been under extreme stress. The nurse that left me bleeding ended up being one I called about due to her telling me I wasn't feeding my Mom the right kind of food in what seemed like a rude way. My Mom barely wanted to eat and I wasn't going to force her. They ended up sending out another nurse who was the one who came for most of the time. The on call nurse that I talked about above was the one that I called about that got replaced. When she came out that night she asked why I had called asking for someone else before and I honestly told her the truth. She apologized saying she was sorry if she came across as rude, that I could have told her what she said made me feel like and she would have understood. In that moment I when she was so nice to me I kind of wondered what would have happened if I hadn't replaced her. The hospice we used was the one that was recommended by my Mom's cancer doctor and looking back I now wonder if she was getting kickbacks for referring patients to them.

Oh and someone earlier in this thread mentioned they were hoping Joy wasn't loosing her faculties. I have honestly been worried about that since this season started. There were times where she's behaved and reacted differently then she ever has before. I know a lot of us were speculating that it could be stress due to what's going on in the world or RBM's behavior on stage and behind the scenes. I'm hoping it's situational and not due to her health but would prefer it was neither at all. Sometimes it seems like RBM takes advantage of the situation when she specifically targets Joy. I've rarely watched since this season started but have still seen RBM acting like that on occasion when I have.

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My goodness! my heart goes out to you. I am was in tears reading your post.  

[JayD83]

MM has been "talked to" by producers per her own words.  Interesting. 

[Haleth]

  On 11/27/2018 at 4:21 PM, JayD83 said:

MM has been "talked to" by producers per her own words.  Interesting. 

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Ding, ding, ding!  About being too emotional?  About defending unsavory Republicans?  About screeching in general?  I wonder what that conversation was. 

[Apprentice79]

I want Mike Espy to win, but, he will not. Mississippi is Mississippi. Megan cannot give a Democrat a win at all. How is Mike Espy a bad candidate?  He made a mistake and rectified it. She always has to say something negative about a Democrat when a member of her tribe is awful and loathsome like Hyde-Smith. If Mike Espy were to win, he would be the first Black Senator from Mississippi since Reconstruction. 

Edited November 27, 2018 by Apprentice79

[blondiec0332]

  On 11/27/2018 at 4:25 PM, Apprentice79 said:

I want Mike Espy to win, but, he will not. Mississippi is Mississippi. Megan cannot give a Democrat a win at all. How is Mike Espy a bad candidate?  He made a mistake and rectified it. She always has to say something negative about a Democrat when a member of her tribe is awful and loathsome like Hyde-Smith. 

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I'm not watching yet.  Did Meghan say Espy was a worse candidate than Hyde-Smith?  Because I don't see how anyone can defend her.  She  might have misspoke once but she has said numerous things that are racist.

[1SimonMom]

Ok I flip it on for two minutes and I am already to throw the remote or change the channel.  Abby STFu up she is trying to explain the behavior in MS due to her family and yet because of her own views is tripping over, she knows she does not believe anything she is trying to get out.  Elisa, couple things the wardrobe people must really  hate you otherwise you had no taste, your dress looks like someones great great grandmother wallpaper or sofa and no matter what you say, no one believes you when you get upset with your precious party, your actions, non actions and treatment of others - especially your sense of superiority tells everyone you are your party.

Since I only had it did the show say she was talked too.

[Cementhead]

So none of the other kids in school wanted Meghan on their team and the only sport she is good at is shooting guns.  I am shocked said no one ever.

[Apprentice79]

  On 11/27/2018 at 4:28 PM, blondiec0332 said:

I'm not watching yet.  Did Meghan say Espy was a worse candidate than Hyde-Smith?  Because I don't see how anyone can defend her.  She  might have misspoke once but she has said numerous things that are racist.

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She said they are both bad for Mississippi. I disagree with her assertions. Mississippi needs a lot of help. Alabama has attracted a lot of investment like tourism after Doug Jones was elected as Senator.  So, Espy's win would change a lot of things for that state. Like Joy said, Republicans never vote in their interest, just blind ideology.

[JayD83]

MM is such a bitch.  So now Joy's career aint shit because she doesn't have an Oscar or isn't an EGOT?  GTFOH!

[Cementhead]

That 30 Rock episode that Whoopi mentioned was hilarious and one of my faves.  And because I am old and can't remember things properly anymore, that episode may  or may not have also included the joke where someone asks Whoopi why she would take a job on The View and Whoopi responds, "Bitch has gotta eat!" 

[HaaCHOO]

  On 11/26/2018 at 5:39 PM, Apprentice79 said:

Or a book about middle America, why she is the only who understands them and why she has anointed herself as their spokesperson.

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Middle America, where Krysten Sinema is HER senator.  Her AZ-Dem senator!

[HaaCHOO]

  On 11/27/2018 at 4:21 PM, JayD83 said:

MM has been "talked to" by producers per her own words.  Interesting. 

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Which of these is the best response?    1.  Not often enough.    2.  We want an Executive Producer to "talk to" her.

[GoldenGirl90]

I'm glad they didn't include idiot Meghan in the segment about Sandra Bland. Her family members are way too composed, classy and dignified and I'm sure Meghan would've tried her "whatboutism" on them.

[Vixenstud]

  On 11/27/2018 at 4:33 PM, JayD83 said:

MM is such a bitch.  So now Joy's career aint shit because she doesn't have an Oscar or isn't an EGOT?

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Did she actually say that to Joy?

[Coffeewinewater]

 When Meghan was bitching about the awful Republican candidate in Mississippi.  She said something like Mississippi voters deserve better. I realized she's pissed not because the woman is a racist but because Republicans will HAVE to vote for a racist.  Meghan said I'm stuck with her.  Meghan would never vote for a Democrat even if the Republican candidate was the devil himself.  Nobody is stuck with that woman they are choosing her. And that is truly embarrassing. Meghan should be embarrassed. Embarrassed that she puts party before country and expects all Republicans to do so. 

Yeah, MM  was a shit to Joy in regards to whoopi's egot . 

What does Meghan ever want to talk about? Politics? She shouldn't, she sucks at it.

  On 11/27/2018 at 5:01 PM, Vixenstud said:

Did she actually say that to Joy?

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Basically. 

[JayD83]

  On 11/27/2018 at 5:01 PM, Vixenstud said:

Did she actually say that to Joy?

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When Joy was talking about her parents supporting her dream of being a comedienne, she said that they applauded for her but didn't give her an agent.  She couldn't really finish her thought because MM jumped in with "This one's got an Oscar (pointed at Whoopi) so I'm sorry it worked out for her" and Joy continued "I needed an agent, that's all I needed" - MM again - "Yeah, but there's a difference between that and having an EGOT winner sitting with us, I'm sorry". 

[Vixenstud]

  On 11/27/2018 at 5:08 PM, JayD83 said:

When Joy was talking about her parents supporting her dream of being a comedienne, she said that they applauded for her but didn't give her an agent.  She couldn't really finish her thought because MM jumped in with "This one's got an Oscar (pointed at Whoopi) so I'm sorry it worked out for her" and Joy continued "I needed an agent, that's all I needed" - MM again - "Yeah, but there's a difference between that and having an EGOT winner sitting with us, I'm sorry". 

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Wow.  The next time MM brings up her daddy, Joy should make a groaning noise and respond how her father has been gone for a long time but she eventually moved on, and MM should do the same.

What a bitch!

[Tosia]

  On 11/27/2018 at 5:23 PM, Vixenstud said:

Wow.  The next time MM brings up her daddy, Joy should make a groaning noise and respond how her father has been gone for a long time but she eventually moved on, and MM should do the same.

What a bitch!

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Or Joy could, say to MM, that her father was a senator, and MM is NOT. So there!

Edited November 27, 2018 by Tosia

[KicksandGiggles]

  On 11/27/2018 at 5:08 PM, JayD83 said:

 

When Joy was talking about her parents supporting her dream of being a comedienne, she said that they applauded for her but didn't give her an agent.  She couldn't really finish her thought because MM jumped in with "This one's got an Oscar (pointed at Whoopi) so I'm sorry it worked out for her" and Joy continued "I needed an agent, that's all I needed" - MM again - "Yeah, but there's a difference between that and having an EGOT winner sitting with us, I'm sorry". 

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Good grief. How extremely rude and dismissive.

Just a couple of thoughts regarding yesterday's show... I thought Meghan was quite the Debbie Downer with regards to the Thanksgiving conversation, not because she shared her difficult holiday, but because it seemed that she shamed others for having an enjoyable one when she and others are suffering through grief. At least that's how I took it. I don't judge her for her difficulty in processing her grief, and I won't make comparisons of her loss to others. Regardless of her privileged life, and all that she has to be thankful for, she is clearly grieving and is entitled to do so. I just don't want to hear about it every damn day. She and I are not friends. And I don't tune in to The View for some substitute grief support group session.

The only other thing that I have to add is that I really do appreciate how excited and smiley Sunny and Abby are when they walk out on the set. They seem genuinely excited and happy to be there. A cranky puss face gives a bad omen of things to come.

[Cementhead]

Joy could also ask Meghan to list her own accomplishments aside from being born a McCain.   And then say, "see that's the difference between sitting at this table because you've earned your spot or sitting at this table because of your last name.  Sorry!"

[jumper sage]

  On 11/27/2018 at 4:24 PM, Haleth said:

Ding, ding, ding!  About being too emotional?  About defending unsavory Republicans?  About screeching in general?  I wonder what that conversation was. 

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@WonderWuman73 - get on this stat.  Maybe you could hire in behind the scenes for us.  No?  

  On 11/27/2018 at 5:08 PM, JayD83 said:

 

When Joy was talking about her parents supporting her dream of being a comedienne, she said that they applauded for her but didn't give her an agent.  She couldn't really finish her thought because MM jumped in with "This one's got an Oscar (pointed at Whoopi) so I'm sorry it worked out for her" and Joy continued "I needed an agent, that's all I needed" - MM again - "Yeah, but there's a difference between that and having an EGOT winner sitting with us, I'm sorry". 

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I zone out when she speaks so now I have to watch it on Hulu tonight.  HOW DARE SHE!  Joy was in many movies including one of my favorites Manhattan Murder Mystery and also Hall Pass.  There are more too.  She will wind up on the rememberance reel for the Oscars and Emmys.  ETA Joy also has Broadway credits.

 

  On 11/27/2018 at 5:34 PM, KicksandGiggles said:

I thought Meghan was quite the Debbie Downer with regards to the Thanksgiving conversation, not because she shared her difficult holiday, but because it seemed that she shamed others for having an enjoyable one when she and others are suffering through grief.

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Yes.  She could have listened and said she had a quiet day to reflect on family.  No one would have faulted her for that.

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[geekburger]

Add undermining the show they work on as reasons why Whoopi and MM get along so well. Laughing about topics they hate cause they don’t want to talk about it. 

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[Cementhead]

Joy also came into acting late in life which is a huge accomplishment in that business!  To be over 40 (or older) when she got started and land acting gigs?  You go girl!  And Meghan can go fuck herself.

[blondiec0332]

  On 11/27/2018 at 5:48 PM, Cementhead said:

Joy also came into acting late in life which is a huge accomplishment in that business!  To be over 40 (or older) when she got started and land acting gigs?  You go girl!  And Meghan can go fuck herself.

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And what Joy has accomplished she accomplished all on her own. Her talent got her to where she is today.  Meghan is where she is at because she got lucky and was born into that particular family.

[Tammee]

  On 11/27/2018 at 5:35 PM, Cementhead said:

Joy could also ask Meghan to list her own accomplishments aside from being born a McCain.   And then say, "see that's the difference between sitting at this table because you've earned your spot or sitting at this table because of your last name.  Sorry!"

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Perfect time for someone to speak up and mention the husband authored blue cards....SORRY lol

[rcc]

  On 11/27/2018 at 5:08 PM, JayD83 said:

 

When Joy was talking about her parents supporting her dream of being a comedienne, she said that they applauded for her but didn't give her an agent.  She couldn't really finish her thought because MM jumped in with "This one's got an Oscar (pointed at Whoopi) so I'm sorry it worked out for her" and Joy continued "I needed an agent, that's all I needed" - MM again - "Yeah, but there's a difference between that and having an EGOT winner sitting with us, I'm sorry". 

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Bitch!!!

  On 11/27/2018 at 5:35 PM, Cementhead said:

Joy could also ask Meghan to list her own accomplishments aside from being born a McCain.   And then say, "see that's the difference between sitting at this table because you've earned your spot or sitting at this table because of your last name.  Sorry!"

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Right!

[OnTime]

  On 11/27/2018 at 4:21 PM, JayD83 said:

MM has been "talked to" by producers per her own words.  Interesting. 

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I missed that.  Details, please!

[HaaCHOO]

Today we learned that Abby is NOT an expert on:

1)  Pardons

2)  Mississippi History

Shall I keep a record...just so we know?

[blondiec0332]

  On 11/27/2018 at 6:25 PM, HaaCHOO said:

Today we learned that Abby is NOT an expert on:

1)  Pardons

2)  Mississippi History

Shall I keep a record...just so we know?

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Perhaps it would be easier if she just said what she is an expert on.  I'll wait.

[HaaCHOO]

  On 11/27/2018 at 5:08 PM, JayD83 said:

When Joy was talking about her parents supporting her dream of being a comedienne, she said that they applauded for her but didn't give her an agent.  She couldn't really finish her thought because MM jumped in with "This one's got an Oscar (pointed at Whoopi) so I'm sorry it worked out for her" and Joy continued "I needed an agent, that's all I needed" - MM again - "Yeah, but there's a difference between that and having an EGOT winner sitting with us, I'm sorry". 

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From the Urban Dictionary:  Step on the Joke

To 'step on a joke' is a term in comedy writing. It means to ruin a decent joke by by following it too quickly with a riff or another punchline in an attempt to draw more laughs. 

In non-comedy Meghan's case, it's to make sure Joy can't complete a punchline...OR because Meghan truly doesn't understand comedy, timing...and courtesy.

[Apprentice79]

  On 11/27/2018 at 6:25 PM, HaaCHOO said:

Today we learned that Abby is NOT an expert on:

1)  Pardons

2)  Mississippi History

Shall I keep a record...just so we know?

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She was also uncomfortable when she brought up her husband's grandmother who loved the confederacy. When Joy brought up the racism associated with that, she tried to take it back, but, it was too late. I wish that she had expanded on that topic. It would have been very interesting for her to talk about that in light of Hyde-Smith in Mississippi.

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[Tammee]

  On 11/26/2018 at 5:34 PM, Coffeewinewater said:

Good idea. She will probably write a book about her father. 

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Maybe if we all chipped in a buck or two, we can raise enough to send her ourselves hee

[JayD83]

  On 11/27/2018 at 6:21 PM, OnTime said:

I missed that.  Details, please!

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She wanted to call that horrendous Republican running for the MS Senate seat a racist but said she couldn't because she'd been 'talked to' by producers.  Then, Whoopi said something along the lines of I'll say it, she's said some racial things. MM didn't expand further. 

[HaaCHOO]

DRISTAN...     The nasal spray and all other remedies are still available at your corner store...and online.

[JayD83]

  On 11/27/2018 at 6:30 PM, HaaCHOO said:

From the Urban Dictionary:  Step on the Joke

To 'step on a joke' is a term in comedy writing. It means to ruin a decent joke by by following it too quickly with a riff or another punchline in an attempt to draw more laughs. 

In non-comedy Meghan's case, it's to make sure Joy can't complete a punchline...OR because Meghan truly doesn't understand comedy, timing...and courtesy.

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I'm sure as it relates to MM, it's a combination of both. 

[HaaCHOO]

Sunny's make-up looked nicer today...more toward the pink tones than the yellow.   Alas, her hands always look purplish.

[Apprentice79]

  On 11/27/2018 at 6:31 PM, JayD83 said:

She wanted to call that horrendous Republican running for the MS Senate seat a racist but said she couldn't because she'd been 'talked to' by producers.  Then, Whoopi said something along the lines of I'll say it, she's said some racial things. MM didn't expand further. 

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Why can't they call a spade a spade. If the woman is racist, call her that. Plus, Megan's anger  about Hyde-Smith rang hollow because she would have voted for her if she lived in Mississippi.  That is what is so appalling  and disheartening about all of this.  

Edited November 27, 2018 by Apprentice79