Sonja Morgan: Don't Call her White Trash

[Mindthinkr]

Sonja does not need to be doing stuff like this to get attention. They should push her off the show and into some kind of therapy. 

[lasu]

Why in the entire world would Heather put this out there?  I'm not a big Sonja fan, but this is absolutely vile on Heather's part.  If Sonja needed "saving", then this sounds precariously close to assault.  If that's the case, you keep your fucking mouth shut about it until the end of time.  If she wanted to explain that she felt betrayed by Sonja, she could have said so without going into specifics.  As is, it sounds like A) she expected gratitude for "saving" Sonja from being further assaulted, and B) when that gratitude didn't pan out, she used the assault to shame Sonja.  Fuck Heather and fuck any man who participated in this.

Certainly I have plenty of "fuck Sonjas" to spare, but not for this particular thing.  Fuck that.

Edited October 28, 2021 by lasu

[Kiss my mutt]

I feel the most sorry for her daughter. 

[Marley]

Wait why would she put a cigarette in her vagina? What is the point of that lol. I don’t feel like watching that Sonja Josh video because she annoys me and makes me not like Josh when he’s with her and I usually find Josh entertaining on Million dollar listing LA. I’ve heard of some weird shit but a cig in a vagina is a new one.

[Jextella]

  

1 hour ago, JonnieUniteUs said:

Thanks Ichbin!

Good pic:

 

I didn’t mind Sonja but the other two were show killers for me at least😐

I've read a few small blurbs that make me think there was a falling out between Sonja and Ramona and possibly Luann.  The Ultimate Girls Trip seems to convey a similar message so whatever happened, it may have been awhile ago. Maybe it was the fact that Sonja did a cabaret show after Luann?

 

[RealHousewife]

Sonja just appeared in the episode I'm watching. My first impression of her is like Jill's, she's a very pretty lady. 

[RealHousewife]

Couple questions about Sonja. 

She's mentioned modeling in a few times on the show, which surprised me. Don't get me wrong. I love her looks actually. She's a beautiful woman with a great face and figure. But she talks about modeling in Europe, being on go-sees, I thought that kind of modeling required one to be more statuesque. Sonja herself said she was "tiny" compared to the "so tall" LuAnn. I suppose there are exceptions like Kate Moss. Anyone know about Sonja's modeling career? These days any pretty girl can be an IG model, but I don't think it was as easy back then. 

Second thing, I had no idea before watching the show she married into such a famous, wealthy family and that her husband was so much older! I was actually surprised he's still alive (92). How did she end up having money problems if she married so well? Was it bad business decisions with the money she got? I know she's kind of mysterious about what she actually does. Did she have a prenup that was crappy? I mean, to my knowledge it wasn't a Girardi situation where the husband wasn't as wealthy as he was portrayed and she spent money like it came out of tap. 

[65mickey]

If I remember correctly she blew a bunch of money on vanity projects and then got sued for getting someone to invest money in movie venture that never materialized. She lost the  judgement and had to fork over a bunch of money to the investors. Then she complained that old man Morgan had not paid her all that he owed in the divorce settlement. She also hinted the reason she has not sold her townhouse is that because of the liens against it she would end up with nothing. Sonja should have had a financial advisor helping her manage her money so that she wold not end up broke in her old age. But I have a feeling that she does not listen to anyone.  She is probably waiting on old man Morgan to die and her daughter's inheritance to support her.   

[Salacious Kitty]

8 hours ago, 65mickey said:

If I remember correctly she blew a bunch of money on vanity projects and then got sued for getting someone to invest money in movie venture that never materialized. She lost the  judgement and had to fork over a bunch of money to the investors. Then she complained that old man Morgan had not paid her all that he owed in the divorce settlement. She also hinted the reason she has not sold her townhouse is that because of the liens against it she would end up with nothing. Sonja should have had a financial advisor helping her manage her money so that she wold not end up broke in her old age. But I have a feeling that she does not listen to anyone.  She is probably waiting on old man Morgan to die and her daughter's inheritance to support her.   

I assume OMM set up a trust for Quincy. Do we know when she gets it? 25 isn't that far away. 

[RealHousewife]

I do really like Sonja overall. I think she’s a great Housewife. She’s sexy but not vulgar like an Erika Jayne. Even when she’s drunk, she isn’t super messy like Brandi Glanville. She’s mostly just got this cute, fun personality. I could see myself friends with her. 

[Stats Queen]

8 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

I do really like Sonja overall. I think she’s a great Housewife. She’s sexy but not vulgar like an Erika Jayne. Even when she’s drunk, she isn’t super messy like Brandi Glanville. She’s mostly just got this cute, fun personality. I could see myself friends with her. 

Yes, 

But over they years her drinking has become a huge issue. However they person she was hurting was herself.

She really does have a good heart and soul 

[HunterHunted]

On 2/26/2023 at 1:09 AM, RealHousewife said:

Couple questions about Sonja. 

She's mentioned modeling in a few times on the show, which surprised me. Don't get me wrong. I love her looks actually. She's a beautiful woman with a great face and figure. But she talks about modeling in Europe, being on go-sees, I thought that kind of modeling required one to be more statuesque. Sonja herself said she was "tiny" compared to the "so tall" LuAnn. I suppose there are exceptions like Kate Moss. Anyone know about Sonja's modeling career? These days any pretty girl can be an IG model, but I don't think it was as easy back then.

Sonja is likely greatly exaggerating her "modeling career." Sonja is a delusional fabulist. All of her stories need to be double checked. You can't take anything she says on face value. She might have been a fit model like Carole was for Jordache Jeans. She told a story about living abroad for a year with her wealthy European boyfriend during one of the rare times we actually know where she was. It was her senior at FIT and she was working at that boutique on the Upper West Side, Arlequin.

On 2/26/2023 at 1:09 AM, RealHousewife said:

Second thing, I had no idea before watching the show she married into such a famous, wealthy family and that her husband was so much older! I was actually surprised he's still alive (92). How did she end up having money problems if she married so well? Was it bad business decisions with the money she got? I know she's kind of mysterious about what she actually does. Did she have a prenup that was crappy? I mean, to my knowledge it wasn't a Girardi situation where the husband wasn't as wealthy as he was portrayed and she spent money like it came out of tap. 

Sonja's divorce settlement was pretty substantial, about $25 million in money and property. Unfortunately, Sonja was playing at being a movie producer. She claimed she had access to more money than she did. Because she was such a dilettante, she never realized the lead of a movie she was financing and producing had a pay or play contract. This means that the actor gets paid regardless of whether the film is made. It was $7 million dollars. She, first, tried to get some of her ex-husband's contacts to strong arm the other producers into dropping the issue of Sonja paying the $7 million. They implied that the other producers would never be able to get money from New York again. She got sued and lost. Next, she declared bankruptcy. She sold off most of the properties that she got in the divorce. She ended up taking a $3.3 million mortgage on the townhouse.

Sonja is smart and dangerously charming. It makes her think she can get away with more shit than she actually can. That's how she winds up in trouble. I'm sure she was thinking the same thing when she stayed in the south of France rather than come home to be with her sick husband. Her friend swooped in and has been married to him longer than his other 4 wives.

[RealHousewife]

On 3/16/2023 at 7:59 AM, HunterHunted said:

Sonja is likely greatly exaggerating her "modeling career." Sonja is a delusional fabulist. All of her stories need to be double checked. You can't take anything she says on face value. She might have been a fit model like Carole was for Jordache Jeans. She told a story about living abroad for a year with her wealthy European boyfriend during one of the rare times we actually know where she was. It was her senior at FIT and she was working at that boutique on the Upper West Side, Arlequin.

Sonja's divorce settlement was pretty substantial, about $25 million in money and property. Unfortunately, Sonja was playing at being a movie producer. She claimed she had access to more money than she did. Because she was such a dilettante, she never realized the lead of a movie she was financing and producing had a pay or play contract. This means that the actor gets paid regardless of whether the film is made. It was $7 million dollars. She, first, tried to get some of her ex-husband's contacts to strong arm the other producers into dropping the issue of Sonja paying the $7 million. They implied that the other producers would never be able to get money from New York again. She got sued and lost. Next, she declared bankruptcy. She sold off most of the properties that she got in the divorce. She ended up taking a $3.3 million mortgage on the townhouse.

Sonja is smart and dangerously charming. It makes her think she can get away with more shit than she actually can. That's how she winds up in trouble. I'm sure she was thinking the same thing when she stayed in the south of France rather than come home to be with her sick husband. Her friend swooped in and has been married to him longer than his other 4 wives.

So if Sonja lived off the money from her husband, she'd be fine and then some? Maybe it's because I don't have that level of money (yet ;)), it's crazy to me why some people won't live comfortably off the money they have instead of making all these risky moves.

Yeah sometimes smart people overestimate their smarts. I can see the dangerously charming as well. I think Sonja is possibly the most charming Housewife across the franchise. She's super cute. Even when she's angry or critical, she doesn't come across bitchy. Her vulnerability can be endearing. She's a good flirt. She just seems like a playful little puppy. 

I'm surprised she ditched her sick husband. Sonja seems like a kindhearted person. Were they already in a really bad place or something? I had no idea her friend was now married to her ex, nuts. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

I’m watching “Maid” on Netflix. The Paula/Andie MacDowell character reminds me so much of Sonja. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

They finally sold Sonja’s money pit for half of what Morgan originally purchased it for.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13473993/RHONY-Sonja-Morgan-sells-NYC-townhouse-auction.html

[heatherchandler]

25 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

They finally sold Sonja’s money pit for half of what Morgan originally purchased it for.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13473993/RHONY-Sonja-Morgan-sells-NYC-townhouse-auction.html

That’s insane!  She must really need the cash to let it go for so little.

[ZettaK]

It's too low for a (current) great real estate market. Auction? It sounds like a foreclosure auction.

Edited May 31 by ZettaK

[RealHousewife]

Eek, that makes me sad for Sonja. I read the location is not ideal, but it really is an absolutely gorgeous NYC home. 

[65mickey]

I am sure she does need the cash with no more Housewives salary. I just hope she doesn't do something stupid with this money like blow it on another get rich quick scheme. 

[heatherchandler]

5 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I am sure she does need the cash with no more Housewives salary. I just hope she doesn't do something stupid with this money like blow it on another get rich quick scheme. 

You know she will.

[bosawks]

On 6/2/2024 at 6:45 AM, 65mickey said:

I am sure she does need the cash with no more Housewives salary. I just hope she doesn't do something stupid with this money like blow it on another get rich quick scheme. 

I vote liquor and pills....

[Kemper]

Only Fans.

[PrincessPurrsALot]

I heard Nancy Grace saying, "Booze and hot pants" in my head. I feel for Sonja because she has made terrible decisions and taken bad advice. I suspect this house went for so little money because there is an enormous amount of delayed maintenance. On the show they have exposed plumbing and electrical issues as well as potentially the need for a new roof and repairs to the outside walls. 

Cosmetically it looks great in the photos in the article. It is nicely staged.  But the cost comes in repairs that are needed. I do hope whoever bought it maintains the classic look of the townhome and doesn't overly modernize. 

[Sweet-tea]

Well.... Sonja does like her cocktails. 

 

Jeff Lewis: Sonja Morgan's 'drunk behavior' was worse than what aired on 'WWHL' 15th anniversary (pagesix.com)

[Mindthinkr]

They are kind not to have her on the show anymore (RHONYC). If it isn’t already, some incident recorded for the show could destroy her reputation. 

[Palimelon]

What reputation?

[65mickey]

I saw Sonja on WWHL. She looked and acted like she was 3 sheets to the wind. I guess we were spared the really awful behavior. Sonja thinks she is cute and sexy when she is drunk. She doesn't understand that no one wants to see a drunk 60 year old woman acting out in public. She really needs to clean up her act if not for herself for her daughter who must be mortified by her mother's public behavior. 

[RealHousewife]

Sonja is a beautiful woman, and she is also charming when she is sober. I agree being so drunk and sloppy isn’t cute. It makes me sad to see honestly, because I think she seems like such a cool chick when she’s not drinking. 

[Mindthinkr]

16 hours ago, Palimelon said:

What reputation?

The one that was teetering low. She finally hit the sand. 

[chsblond]

https://pagesix.com/2024/07/03/entertainment/jeff-lewis-sonja-morgans-drunk-behavior-was-worse-than-what-aired-on-wwhl-15th-anniversary/

Jeff Lewis claims Sonja Morgan’s ‘obnoxious, drunk behavior’ was much worse than what aired on ‘WWHL’ 15th anniversary

Jeff Lewis called out Sonja Morgan for allegedly being wasted at the taping for the 15th anniversary of “Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen.”

“I was very annoyed by Sonja and, I believe … that they did a lot of work to edit her obnoxious, drunk behavior, but what you see was 20 times worse,” he recently alleged on Sirius XM’s “Jeff Lewis Live.”

“She never stopped talking. She was belligerent. She was rude and disrespectful. She was confrontational. She came for me at the break. I was completely turned off by her behavior.”

[Stats Queen]

Sonja moved to West Palm Beach and bought a condo.

https://nypost.com/2024/10/29/real-estate/sonja-morgan-buys-600k-florida-condo/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=social

I hope she finds peace and happiness.

The article says is comes furnished. do you think that includes brown ice?

[ZettaK]

16 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

Sonja moved to West Palm Beach and bought a condo.

https://nypost.com/2024/10/29/real-estate/sonja-morgan-buys-600k-florida-condo/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=social

I hope she finds peace and happiness.

The article says is comes furnished. do you think that includes brown ice?

Poor Sonja. I live just north, and this looks like a very old condo building. Her condo is also small. 

Edited October 31 by ZettaK

[RealHousewife]

I have a soft spot for Sonja. I don't always love her behavior, but I think she has a good soul. I wish her well on this next chapter of her life. This new property may not be very big or as glamorous as her old NYC, but it's still a place many of us would be thrilled to live in. I know it's not for everyone, but I always thought it would be cool to live in a big building. I would feel a sense of safety with so many people nearby, and the condo spares her from some of the responsibilities that come with a regular house. The unit is really pretty imo, not to mention the view is also beautiful. 

My only concern is, does Sonja have much family or friends in Florida? I know some people make big moves without having anyone, but it just seems like so much of Sonja's life is New York, and I read her daughter is in LA. 

As a fan of hers and RHONY, I still wished the real RHONY would return with Sonja. I know that's been wishful thinking for some time, but I guess I can't even dream now.

[Marley]

Whoops wrong thread.

Edited October 31 by Marley

[Stats Queen]

1 hour ago, RealHousewife said:

As a fan of hers and RHONY, I still wished the real RHONY would return with Sonja. I know that's been wishful thinking for some time, but I guess I can't even dream now.

I have a soft spot for Sonja. I don’t want her on my screen again until she gets a handle on her over drinking problems.She does have a great soul and I want her to be healthy and happy.

[hoodooznoodooz]

“The West Palm Beach condo, a cozy 1,170-square-foot unit, boasts two bedrooms, two bathrooms and a balcony with waterfront views. That’s a far cry from her former 5,500-square-foot, five-level NYC home, which featured five bedrooms, six bathrooms and an elevator.“

The article makes it seem as if Sonja’s townhouse was not a moldy moneypit.

[Baltimore Betty]

8 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Poor Sonja. I live just north, and this looks like a very old condo building. It is also small. 

Remember when Lu was all about West Palm Beach is not Palm Beach! LOL!

1,170 sq. ft. is not much space at all but hopefully all the memories of yachts and John John and P. Diddy can fit in her walk-in closet.

[SweetieDarling]

8 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

“The West Palm Beach condo, a cozy 1,170-square-foot unit, boasts two bedrooms, two bathrooms and a balcony with waterfront views. That’s a far cry from her former 5,500-square-foot, five-level NYC home, which featured five bedrooms, six bathrooms and an elevator.“

The article makes it seem as if Sonja’s townhouse was not a moldy moneypit.

With a view of a parking garage

[Book Junkie]

I would take her new condo over her NYC townhouse any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Waterfront views, pools, workout room, fully furnished, and 24/7 doorman? Yes, please! She probably was able to pay cash for too. I wonder why it had such trouble selling?

[RealHousewife]

8 minutes ago, Book Junkie said:

I would take her new condo over her NYC townhouse any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Waterfront views, pools, workout room, fully furnished, and 24/7 doorman? Yes, please! She probably was able to pay cash for too. I wonder why it had such trouble selling?

Yeah her lifestyle there sounds pretty darn nice if you ask me. I’m not sure why it had such a hard time selling either. 

[ZettaK]

48 minutes ago, Book Junkie said:

I would take her new condo over her NYC townhouse any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Waterfront views, pools, workout room, fully furnished, and 24/7 doorman? Yes, please! She probably was able to pay cash for too. I wonder why it had such trouble selling?

West Palm Beach is not like what it used to be. There is a regeneration going on for some years. There are many new high end condo buildings (the prices start from the millions). Also luxury office/professional buildings, high end shopping, nice new restaurants- some New York restaurants opened branches in WPB. Some already existed (like shops and restaurants in City Place/Rosemary), but more opened. 

Edited October 31 by ZettaK

[ZettaK]

I forgot to say that Sonja's condo is on the water, but on the Intracoastal. Beyond that is Palm Beach (Island), and the ocean. 

[Baltimore Betty]

11 hours ago, ZettaK said:

I forgot to say that Sonja's condo is on the water, but on the Intracoastal. Beyond that is Palm Beach (Island), and the ocean. 

Close enough to watch wealthy people on their yachts! Something tells me that Sonja will also become a Boca Babe hanging out at the trendy expensive restaurant/bars in Mizner Park looking for the next guy with some pocket change and no sense, lol. 

Edited November 8 by Baltimore Betty

[ZettaK]

On 11/8/2024 at 7:34 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

Close enough to watch wealthy people on their yachts! Something tells me that Sonja will also become a Boca Babe hanging out at the trendy expensive restaurant/bars in Mizner Park looking for the next guy with some pocket change and no sense, lol. 

She could also hang out with Ramona who bought a condo in Palm Beach in January of 2022, and spends months a year in the area. Are they close friends though? 

Edited November 10 by ZettaK