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11 hours ago, firefly said:

Leida’s real dream is to become a doctor in America and she is willing (but not eager) to marry Eric to help move her plan along. She has some qualifications from Indonesia but cannot practice as a full-fledged doctor. Baraboo has no medical schools (surprise, I know!). So Leida would have to travel to Madison or Milwaukee to take additional courses. Minimum of 50 miles one way for either choice. Buy an additional car? Plus gas and insurance. Classes are not free, so there’s that cost. Books, additional money. May have to stay overnight on occasion, so hotel room fees. Where is this money coming from? It worries me that I have thought about this more than Leida or Eric.

Actually, her first major hurdle would be getting into med school.  It's not that simple.  Plus, it would be kind of a miracle if she did get into one local to her.

My dad and brother went to med schools several states away from home/where they went to college.  And even though he had excellent grades and whatnot, it took my brother two tries to get into med school.  He actually got a Master's Degree in between attempts to be a better candidate.

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18 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Which works for her!  This is what those migrants do when they have anchor children and illegal status.

In this case, Olga isn't a migrant; she's a Russian citizen IN Russia.  The baby isn't an American anchor-baby; he's a Russian citizen IN Russia.  An American impregnated her in America, then traveled to Russia with fairytale dreams, an anger management problem, no money and no clue.  

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14 hours ago, LGGirl said:

He can afford a new car, apartment of his own, the dress, and the green card.

I'm sure many of us here would disagree.  WHY would he subject himself and his mother to the Vegas heat, driving around with a/c, if he didn't have to?

 

13 hours ago, eatsleep said:

IDK, both Colt and Jonathan both appear to have grown up middle class and are still middle class. Just Ceci is younger and prettier than Debbie, and likely still working so she doesn't have that bag lady look.

I sure can't see that...although there's a real stretch to define "middle class."  Colt was definitely raised on the lower side; otherwise, he and his mother couldn't abide that dented car without air-conditioning.   Jonathan AND his mother look like they were well taken care of all their lives: better clothing, better schools, better grooming, better vehicles, higher expectations.   A VAST difference in family incomes, in my opinion.  (Ceci will ALWAYS look good...even at Debbie's age)

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OK, Here's my non-professional attempt to try and explain the passports/Richie thing.

A child born outside of the United States and out of wedlock to a U.S. citizen father, may acquire U.S. citizenship if the father was a U.S. citizen at the time of the child’s birth and, if the father was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for five years, two of which were after the age of fourteen.  In addition, the U.S. citizen father must acknowledge paternity and agree in writing to provide financial support for the child until he/she reaches the age of 18 years old.

So Steven has to claim Richie and promise financial support.  And do a mountain of paperwork.  And pay money. And he might be rejected if they probe into ability to provide financial support.

After that process, which is not instantaneous, he can apply for a US passport for Richie.  He should also be applying for a Russian passport for him too.  You can legally have a passport for any countries you have citizenship in through birth, marriage, or choice.  

Some countries, like the US, require you to use that passport to enter or leave it.  Others don't care, as long as you have a visa.  The benefit of multiple passports is ease of travel.  Some countries don't like others, some have super strict visa requirements, these issues can potentially be avoided depending on which passport you use.  Congratulations to the poster who has dual citizenship with Germany.  A German passport is considered a golden ticket since you don't need a visa for 177 countries with it.

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11 hours ago, Ijustwantsomechips said:

God I hate those signs!!! I’m planning to hang one in the kitchen that says “Tampons” and one by the family photos that says “Inmates” just for shits and giggles.  

Do they make them for the bathroom that say "PLOP"?  Or maybe "STINKY"?

8 hours ago, magemaud said:

Your last name isn't Roloff, by any chance? 

No.  They live in Oregon and I live in Pennsylvania, but I see the crappy barn trend is going on there too.  Although, the assertion has always been that the wedding barn thingy was strictly for the show, and they never had a real wedding business.

Barn weddings can be done well, but most just look like a Pinterest board puked all over the place.  I don't care to sit on bales of hay.  I don't care to trapse around at a reception on a muddy floor.  I used to HATE that Oxy Clean commercial where the girl whined that the bottom of her wedding dress got all muddy at her barn wedding.  I used to scream "YOU GOT MARRIED IN A BARN WITH A DIRT FLOOR!!!" at the TV.  My cousins, who live in another state, were in a wedding on their mother's side (so they're not relatives of ours), and I saw the photos online.  It was the most ludicrous thing I ever saw.  They couldn't even go IN the barn.  Someone built walkways on the outside, and they all lined up on the walkways.  Like fire escapes.  Just bizarre, and IMO, stupid looking.  The reception was outside.  I'm still scratching my head over that one, because why bother with the barn unless you can go inside, but everyone who commented thought it was just amazing.  I just didn't comment on it.  If they like it, more power to them, but yeesh.  

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On 12/10/2018 at 2:41 PM, LGGirl said:

I’m sorry, I was not clear.  I think subconsciously Colt hates his mother.   The reason I say that is Colt appears to not like woman in general.   He treats Larissa with distain.  He is basically taking his anger for his mother on her while treating Debbie like gold.  A man with a healthy relationship with his mother, will normally has a healthy relationship with woman in general.  Colt has neither.  

Most men want to get married and have a family.  Debbie has twisted Colt’s thinking that she is and should always be Colt’s number one.  Colt, on some level, knows his relationship with his mother is off and is preventing him from living a normal life.   Why do you think he’s with Larissa?   She’s basically being held captive.  I don’t believe he will pay for a green card so she can work.  He will make some excuse that he can’t afford it.   If she works and brings in an income, all his power is lost.   Why didn’t he stick upbfor Larissa with his cousin?  Because he knows she there for the green card and he enjoyed his cousin ripping Larissa a new one.  Plus, if he stood up for her, he’d be showing loyalty to Larissa.  A big no no in Debbie’s book.  It also would legitimize what Larissa says about Debbie is true and the emotional incest Debbie has inflicted on her son.   

Larissa needs to find a good lawyer.  Right now she is an indentured sex slave.   But as long as Debbie appears to watch her every move, I doubt she’s even allowed out of the house without a Debbie in tow.  

When I was young, I dated any number of young men who had this kind of love/hate relationship with their mothers.  Their mothers have set up this symbiotic, "I always have to be your #1 priority" relationship, and these guys go along with it, but they hate it every step of the way.  Any woman who gets involved with one of these guys is going to be the "other woman" and at the same time the object of resentment.  After the last one of these, I said "I'm not going to get involved with anyone whose mother is still alive."  And damn if I didn't get one whose mother died when he was 13, and that's another whole set of baggage right there.  (see also:  Prince Harry.)  Coltee is the king of passive-aggressive, and he will make ANY woman miserable.

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8 hours ago, HaaCHOO said:

I'm sure many of us here would disagree.  WHY would he subject himself and his mother to the Vegas heat, driving around with a/c, if he didn't have to?

I think the car is Debbie’s, not Colt’s.  So, it would be up to Debbie to get the car fixed.   What I find more disturbing is that a 31 year old man feels it’s ok for his mommy to drop him off and pick him up from work like a 5 year old.  Why not get himself a car of his own instead on inconveniencing?  A man would get himself a car, even if it’s used and beat up.  Colt is cheap, selfish and infantile.   

I will bet my life savings that Colt has a nice big nest egg.   He’s just cheap and chooses to live like he’s poor.   I’ve known very cheap people just like Colt.  They act like and live like they have no money when they actually are quite wealthy.  Colt spends money on what’s important to him. Larissa isn’t that important.  

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8 hours ago, HaaCHOO said:

In this case, Olga isn't a migrant; she's a Russian citizen IN Russia.  The baby isn't an American anchor-baby; he's a Russian citizen IN Russia.  An American impregnated her in America, then traveled to Russia with fairytale dreams, an anger management problem, no money and no clue.  

My comment is long gone and you didn’t quote the entire thing, but I think you misunderstood what I said.  Your birthplace doesn’t have to define your citizenship. Citizenship can be change.   Richie is getting a US passport. He is about to be an American citizen before he even  arrives. 

 

I was trying to say, if Olga comes here to USA and it doesn’t work out there is a chance she won’t have to leave after the 90 day visa expires.  She also won’t be pressure into getting married, either.   You know, since we see her as the vulnerable new mom at the moment.

 

If Richie is USA citizen then she can latch on to him.  Get social services, whatever. This is why it is so important for Richie to get his US passport in Russia. 

 

This is the purpose of an anchor baby/green card baby.  Also, I am not saying this in a negative way.  Just how it works. Extra insurance for the foreigner parent. Especially, since we are hoping for the best with Olga and don’t want to see her staying in a horrible relationship because she sees no way out.

 

I am over it!  Olga already told us to bugger off! She doesn’t want us worrying about her and to watch her You Tube channel, so we can see how happy she is with Steven.   Bitch, please! What are we gonna see?  Olga telling Steven, Thank You Master......100 times a day???   Hahahahahahahahaha!  If it is genuine, then more power to them! 

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24 minutes ago, LGGirl said:

I think the car is Debbie’s, not Colt’s.  So, it would be up to Debbie to get the car fixed.   What I find more disturbing is that a 31 year old man feels it’s ok for his mommy to drop him off and pick him up from work like a 5 year old.  Why not get himself a car of his own instead on inconveniencing?  A man would get himself a car, even if it’s used and beat up.  Colt is cheap, selfish and infantile.   

I will bet my life savings that Colt has a nice big nest egg.   He’s just cheap and chooses to live like he’s poor.   I’ve known very cheap people just like Colt.  They act like and live like they have no money when they actually are quite wealthy.  Colt spends money on what’s important to him. Larissa isn’t that important.  

Probably have no money because when Debbie drops off Colt at work she heads to the casinos.  Why would anyone live in Vegas?? Hahahahah!  But, if someone doesn’t have as much money as they should then it is getting spent on dumb shit like hookers, gambling and dresses for the cats!  Oh!  This sounds like them.  Lol!

 

What happened to the cats?  We haven’t seen them in a while.  How come Larissa didn’t whine to Debbie.....oh, so only your cats can have nice dresses?

 

Did we see Cousin Colt yelling at Baby Girl that she hasn’t done shit to deserve nice dresses..???

 

 This reminds me.  The  cats need to come back next episode.  They offered much needed comic relief.

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On 12/11/2018 at 12:55 PM, Spike said:

I wonder what Friendly’s restaurant chain thinks about cousin John calling a woman a bitch on national tv.   Not so friendly.  And has he just gotten off shift each time or is he some proud manager trainee that wears his uniform around the clock?

It's an HVAC company that he owns or co-owns. You can google it. Pics of him and the flowerheadband wife and all the babies are all over the site.

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36 minutes ago, Dance4Life said:

Richie is getting a US passport. He is about to be an American citizen before he even  arrives. 

Do we know if Richie is an American citizen now? Filming was so long ago, it should have happened.  Steven doesn't seem to follow through very well on any of his plans.

 

37 minutes ago, Dance4Life said:

This is the purpose of an anchor baby/green card baby.

An American "anchor baby" is born in the U.S.  A baby born in Russia of a Russian-citizen mother isn't an anchor baby.  Also, he can't be a green-card baby if his mother doesn't have one.  Getting all the "services" isn't always the purpose of an anchor baby--it's just a benefit of timing...good or not.  Seems like Steven's plan was to go to Russia, get HIS baby, and come home without the mother.  Steven's so good at planning.

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On 12/10/2018 at 11:52 AM, Dance4Life said:

19 is an adult!  How can a child even concentrate to do homework in filth??  You just mix the dirty clothes with the clean clothes???  I don’t know.  It is parenting and the child’s personality. It is the parents job to teach their kids basic life skills. 

 

If Tasha was my child that room would not be like that.  It takes 5 minutes to make a bed, pick up excess trash and take dishes to the kitchen (if you have some).  5 minutes!!!  We can also agree to disagree, 

 

The good thing is Leida will clean without housekeepers!  One point for her!  LMAO

 

Does anyone know why they kept zooming in on Tasha’s suitcase in the back of her truck??  I could not figure out what was shocking about it. (At, least not anymore than her room)

I was never filthy as a teenager; there is a lot of gray area between filthy and OCD clean and most of us fit somewhere in between, depending on whose opinion.19 is an adult, but there are different levels of adult. For example, 18 yr old adult is wildly different than 30 yr old adult. Leida's desire for cleanliness does not say a thing about her filthy personality and morals however. Even though Tasha's room was incredibly cluttered and dirty, she spoke more maturely and calmly than Leida's shrieks and ultimatums to Eric that she will go back to Indonesia. 

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On 12/11/2018 at 11:32 AM, Spike said:

If they are renting the grill may belong to the landlord.

TLC probably rented the grill.  There are enough buns sitting in the house to feed the entire crew and then some.  Colt and Debbie don't have much, can't afford much (never have; never will), and have no idea how to entertain people.  I'd bet TLC came up with the, "Let's grill," plan so the segment wouldn't be completely boring.

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16 hours ago, CSS.MD said:

Noooo! Leave Magic Mike!

We don’t have those in Indonesia.

I’ll give them chairs?

You don't have bachelorette parties in Indonesia? Or strippers?? LOL

 

13 hours ago, magemaud said:

Your last name isn't Roloff, by any chance? 

It's odd to me that they (Roloff kids) would want to marry in their barn, as they spent their whole lives living on that farm. Wouldn't they want something more fresh and exciting for their wedding?

Very odd also that Ashley planned (pretended to plan) that stupid cliche barn wedding for herself and Jay. That's such a White American trend and prbly something all of her friends did or talked about doing. You'd think she would try to stretch her comfort zone a bit, esp w a foreign husband, and do something outside the box. What a "basic b"....

 

3 hours ago, brilliantbreakfast said:

When I was young, I dated any number of young men who had this kind of love/hate relationship with their mothers.  Their mothers have set up this symbiotic, "I always have to be your #1 priority" relationship, and these guys go along with it, but they hate it every step of the way.  Any woman who gets involved with one of these guys is going to be the "other woman" and at the same time the object of resentment.  After the last one of these, I said "I'm not going to get involved with anyone whose mother is still alive."  

Yep, this is really a thing: my ex-husband was in such a relationship w/ his older sister. I think it's worse when it's his sister bc it's not even repayment for giving birth to him or supporting him financially. Ugh, yeah, single women reading: plz watch out for this. Not fun.

I agree, Debbie has become a thorn in the side and I. personally, wouldn't want to deal w/ that. But it can be helpful to have a retired grandparent onsite or nearby once the babies start coming. 

 

1 hour ago, LGGirl said:

t has a nice big nest egg.   He’s just cheap and chooses to live like he’s poor.   I’ve known very cheap people just like Colt.  They act like and live like they have no money when they actually are quite wealthy.  Colt spends money on what’s important to him. Larissa isn’t that important.  

I don't think they are wealthy but yes, I think he is living way below his means. And I think he could acquiesce to a lot more of Larissa's requests if he wanted to. Esp since he does currently have the extra benefit of Debbie's SS check and no car payment.

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1 hour ago, Dance4Life said:

I was trying to say, if Olga comes here to USA and it doesn’t work out there is a chance she won’t have to leave after the 90 day visa expires.  She also won’t be pressure into getting married, either.   You know, since we see her as the vulnerable new mom at the moment.

If Richie is USA citizen then she can latch on to him.  Get social services, whatever. This is why it is so important for Richie to get his US passport in Russia.

I'm so confused by this. How would she qualify for services if she came over on a k1? And how would she not have to marry?? Wouldn't she just be deported? And what does any of this have to do w/ Richie getting a US passport? Wouldn't his US citizenship alone be what allows him to stay in the US (with or without his mother)?

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On 12/12/2018 at 9:51 AM, Dance4Life said:

Adding. No, you don’t need Russian passport to get out of Russia.  You just need ANY passport.  Kenya, will do! Yes, you just tell them you are moving here because your ticket is one-way.  This gets scrutinize if you are not flying back home.  But, the visa will tell Officers at the airport your state of business in said country. Like K1.  Then they know Olga is green card bride.

 

Unless something has changed in the last 2-3 years, this is not true. If Richie tries to leave Russia on his US passport it would have to have the appropriate Russian visa in order to leave Russia. This visa would never be granted by Russia since he is a Russian citizen. Also, his US passport would state "Russia" as place of birth. I have personal experience with minor children who are dual citizens and  have traveled back and forth between the US and Russia - this is the way it works.

Richie is already a citizen of the US by US definition, he just needs the paperwork to prove it. He is also a Russian citizen.

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53 minutes ago, eatsleep said:

Very odd also that Ashley planned (pretended to plan) that stupid cliche barn wedding for herself and Jay.

That's why I'm convinced all that barn stuff and the bridesmaid's dress fitting were from the other wedding that she claims she cancelled because the guy cheated on her. I don't even believe she and Jay had a wedding website that was hacked. 

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1 hour ago, HaaCHOO said:

Do we know if Richie is an American citizen now? Filming was so long ago, it should have happened.  Steven doesn't seem to follow through very well on any of his plans.

 

An American "anchor baby" is born in the U.S.  A baby born in Russia of a Russian-citizen mother isn't an anchor baby.  Also, he can't be a green-card baby if his mother doesn't have one.  Getting all the "services" isn't always the purpose of an anchor baby--it's just a benefit of timing...good or not.  Seems like Steven's plan was to go to Russia, get HIS baby, and come home without the mother.  Steven's so good at planning.

I really don’t know. Try the spoiler section.   I think I know where she is at based on her nasty message she left us. I also know something Steven was trying to do.  But, it is best you go to the Spoiler section. Last time I posted something about Larissa that I thought everyone already knew and received a no spoiler message.  Then when I asked about it I think my comment was deleted.  It was so strange! 

 

Really, no need to split hairs if you know what I am taking about.  How about meal ticket?  Hahaha!  How about anchor-dad??  The anchoring originated in America.  Olga is a special case. No Richie. No America. annnnnnnd.....No Steven!

 

How about....Do I get papers with baby??  This is what all those girls used to ask me when I lived abroad.  I was like.  What papers?  ‘Papers and I come live in America.’  I used to tell them.  Are you crazy??  Baby.  No baby.  He is never bringing you to America.  That guy you are messing with  is married. It is not allowed! Start saving some of the money he is giving you.  That is the best you are going to do.  Now you know where my soft spot for these girls come from.  I saw too many dirty western dogs engaging in this type of behavior all over the world. 

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1 hour ago, Lily247 said:

I was never filthy as a teenager; there is a lot of gray area between filthy and OCD clean and most of us fit somewhere in between, depending on whose opinion.19 is an adult, but there are different levels of adult. For example, 18 yr old adult is wildly different than 30 yr old adult. Leida's desire for cleanliness does not say a thing about her filthy personality and morals however. Even though Tasha's room was incredibly cluttered and dirty, she spoke more maturely and calmly than Leida's shrieks and ultimatums to Eric that she will go back to Indonesia. 

Omg!  I don’t have OCD...lol!  Is that how I am coming off?  I have been known to leave a messy bathroom counter when getting ready because I don’t have time to clean before I need to leave. This kinda stuff.

 

I would never leave a dirty counter all the time.  This would affect my hygiene. My punctuality if I have to spend extra time searching for things, etc.

 

 A dirty room affects a child’s ability to have good sleep, school work, health, mental health, punctuality, confidence.....I can go on and on. There are children that are naturally clean.  Some children need parental guidance. 

 

We can agree to disagree. That apartment is just unacceptable for a 19 year old and a 40 year old.  It is more than just the filth. 

 

Leida is a clean freak.  Hey!  At least that is a positive.  Leida could turn out to be a sweet peach.  Culture shock mimics raging bitchiness.  I had it once for 4 months...maybe closer to 7’ish.....and, I am not the least bitchy. Now that I think about it my culture shock developed because my accommodations were unacceptable and they knew it!  🤔

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1 hour ago, eatsleep said:

I'm so confused by this. How would she qualify for services if she came over on a k1? And how would she not have to marry?? Wouldn't she just be deported? And what does any of this have to do w/ Richie getting a US passport? Wouldn't his US citizenship alone be what allows him to stay in the US (with or without his mother)?

Richie qualifies for social services which benefit Olga if she chooses or needs to use them.  If you don’t have to buy food, healthcare and get subsidized for things like housing and child care.....well, your life is not as stressful.  :’)

When she figures out Uncle Sam is a sweeter deal than Steven.....Adios Papi!  

 

If Olga needs more help she can just join the Catholic Church.  They are the ones that fund the migrants. 

 

If they plan not to marry, she can just go and get herself sorted.  She has more than enough reasons not to get deported before they take a good look at her case.  Mainly her son and she will probably have a domestic violence case backing her up.  

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On 12/11/2018 at 11:26 PM, jumper sage said:

Bold - I think that is a southern thing.  Up here in Michigan the girl's family throws the shower, I have never been to a bachelorette party and being in the wedding is the gift.  In our family a co-bachelor/bachelorette party is the thing to do.  You rent gambling tables from the Catholic church and have a potlock.  The couple is the house.  You can even bring your kids as the grandmothers usually stay inside and stay with the kids.

IIRC, the shower and yes, the engagement party (because that's now a thing, so now you have to show up with a gift for an engagement party, a shower, an bachelorette party, and a wedding) are held by the family, but the attendants are expected to arrange and pay for the bachelorette party.  Then let's not forget the wedding registry.  I've read that these are not as much of a thing as they used to be, but the last wedding I was invited to, there was NOTHING on the registry under $200 and the groom-to-be, who was a co-worker, explained to me that they did it that way because the expectation is that if you are invited with a guest, you're expected to "cover your plate" (which basically means you have to guess what they paid for you to go to their wedding and pay your own way).  And with that, I stopped going to my friends' weddings.  I started my tradition of buying each couple two champagne flutes from Tiffany's.  The bride gets a Tiffany blue box, I buy a nice gift, and I don't have to deal with this "cover the plate" nonsense.  Nor do I have to dress up and go eat a mediocre prime rib and dance to lousy disco pop music.  Everyone wins.

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2 hours ago, SunshineTKPA said:

Unless something has changed in the last 2-3 years, this is not true. If Richie tries to leave Russia on his US passport it would have to have the appropriate Russian visa in order to leave Russia. This visa would never be granted by Russia since he is a Russian citizen. Also, his US passport would state "Russia" as place of birth. I have personal experience with minor children who are dual citizens and  have traveled back and forth between the US and Russia - this is the way it works.

Richie is already a citizen of the US by US definition, he just needs the paperwork to prove it. He is also a Russian citizen.

 

 

I posted I don’t have kids so I don’t know about their needs.  Only that I have been to Russia twice and spent a lot of in the area in the Stan’s which are CIS. So, same devil.  Lol!

 

 

Does Russia make you have dual citizenship when Richie gets his USA passport?  Is this why Richie needs to use his Russian passport to leave Russia and why no visa is issued on his US passport?  

  Then American passport to enter US.

 

How long did it take you to  get it all sorted? (If your situation is like Olga)

 

 And, did you make the choice on dual citizenship to make things cheaper and easier since your kids go back and forth?

 

I feel like just an American passport would benefit him and her right now.  This makes it clear this kid’s only home is America since she is still vulnerable on her status if she comes here.  (Obviously, it is not what I think! Lol)

 

I also have a different country on my passport as my birth place. But, I have no need for dual citizenship. It is totally safe but I want to make it crystal clear  I only have one home! :’)

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16 hours ago, Spike said:

On the live show they explained that they bought the car when they lived in Seattle and many people don’t have AC there as it’s not needed.

I live in the Seattle area.  We need AC. I've heard people say this before though - that AC isn't needed in the Pacific Northwest. Trust me, when it's a muggy 100 degrees, it's needed. 

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On 12/10/2018 at 6:21 AM, trimthatfat said:

I respect that Kalani doesn’t want to be touched and Asuelu should as well, but she just treats him so badly.

Asuelu needs someone from his own culture...someone who has lived in the USA for a  l-o-n-g time...to explain how things work.  Mostly to explain that (sadly) he got involved with a self-absorbed, lazy, selfish princess who will NEVER be happy with anything.

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1 hour ago, Dance4Life said:

I posted I don’t have kids so I don’t know about their needs.

Teenagers are kids too. They try to live to their own standards whenever they can--they're yearning for freedom.   Most of us believe that Eric left at least half the mess in the "living" part of the house.  Tasha was just too kind to rat him out.  Leida will figure it out soon enough.  As for Tasha's room.  It's HER room.  It's messy; it's not filthy...not even dirty.  She was on the lease first; she was paying rent.  She let the Deadbeat Romeo move in because he was desperate.  Did we see him being grateful?   Now he's all puffed up because he has a "rich" and "over-educated" girlfriend who's pulling his strings.  Tasha, Tasha...wherever you go, do not give Daddy Nobucks your forwarding address

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I do not think she's genuinely materialistic to that level. I got the impression she'd take a ride in a Ford focus if it had working a/c in it. 

"The Queen" is definitely materialistic. There was a perfectly nice red car offered as an alternative for purchase to the "sexy" black SUV and she wouldn't even look at it. I think maybe it was a Kia?

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that AC isn't needed in the Pacific Northwest. Trust me, when it's a muggy 100 degrees, it's needed. 

Even if it's a dry 100 degrees, I think air conditioning is needed.

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When I was young, I dated any number of young men who had this kind of love/hate relationship with their mothers.  Their mothers have set up this symbiotic, "I always have to be your #1 priority" relationship, and these guys go along with it, but they hate it every step of the way.  Any woman who gets involved with one of these guys is going to be the "other woman" and at the same time the object of resentment.  After the last one of these, I said "I'm not going to get involved with anyone whose mother is still alive."  

Larissa knew she was getting a momma's boy when she hooked up with Colt. She thought she could change him. She can't. In fact, I don't think that anyone should ever enter a relationship with a person planning to change him/her. If Larissa doesn't want to be married to a momma's boy, she shouldn't have dated one and shouldn't have gotten engaged to one.

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I think the car is Debbie’s, not Colt’s.  So, it would be up to Debbie to get the car fixed.   What I find more disturbing is that a 31 year old man feels it’s ok for his mommy to drop him off and pick him up from work like a 5 year old.  Why not get himself a car of his own instead on inconveniencing?  A man would get himself a car, even if it’s used and beat up.  Colt is cheap, selfish and infantile.   

That's an interesting perspective. What other possessions must a real manly man own? I don't know who originally owned the car, but I'd guess that Debbie doesn't find it an inconvenience to drive Colt to and from work and sharing a car has worked for them. Plenty of people would find it wasteful to own two cars and have one of them sitting on the driveway all the time.

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I will bet my life savings that Colt has a nice big nest egg.   He’s just cheap and chooses to live like he’s poor.   I’ve known very cheap people just like Colt.  They act like and live like they have no money when they actually are quite wealthy.  Colt spends money on what’s important to him. Larissa isn’t that important.  

More power to him, then. His mother has reached retirement age and is not able to be financially independent. Maybe Colt is maxing out a 401(K) so he doesn't have to worry about that? Maybe he follows Suze Orman's advice and has 12 months of expenses in savings and he only buys things when he can pay for them outright. When did it become emasculating to live beyond your means?

I'm not a fan of Colt's by any stretch. I do think that he's cheap and he would drive me nuts. There's no way I'm living in Vegas (or anywhere else without an air conditioned car. BUT - Larissa knew who he was when she agreed to marry him. She's just pissed off because she can't change him, no matter how short her skirts or low cut her tops are. If Colt is happy living with few material possessions, there's nothing wrong with that. If Larissa wants a more extravagant lifestyle - and it's crystal clear that she does - she can find someone who will support that or wait until she can earn enough money to support her extravagances herself.

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On ‎12‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 3:57 AM, Kellyee said:

I think Colt and Mommy Deb are extreme cheapskates. And that's fine, but they need to find a like-minded person to bring in to their family. I think Colt full-on lied to Larissa about finances and never let on what his real thoughts were about money. Now he uses Mommy to enforce his budget rules at stores. Anyone living in Vegas without air conditioning in their car needs to fess up to anyone coming to live with them that that is the deal. I was in Vegas once in August and I thought my skin would melt off after being outside for 3 minutes. 

While I do know two people who found very nice wedding dresses for under $800, $2k is not crazy for a wedding dress. And its a discussion that Larissa and Colt should be having, without Mommy the Enforcer. 

In Deb's defense, ColtE is the one who said under 1,000 for a dress.  Deb is just saying that the gown was over the budget ColeE came up with (not HER).  For Larissa to blame Deb for not getting the dress she wants is wrong.  ColtE also explained that he bought his car before living in Vegas.  Maybe Larissa will get her car with AC if less is spent elsewhere.  ColtE either does not want to spend excess money on Larissa or does not have the money to spend. He choses to live with Deb. He's probably just one of those guys who doesn't like to spend money.  Larissa needs to realize that she is not going to get the kind of lifestyle she expected from ColtE.  Maybe she should cut her losses, go back home and try to snag another American.  Why do these people think all Americans are rich?  Plus there is a reason why they can't find a partner at home.

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1 hour ago, brilliantbreakfast said:

IIRC, the shower and yes, the engagement party (because that's now a thing, so now you have to show up with a gift for an engagement party, a shower, an bachelorette party, and a wedding) are held by the family, but the attendants are expected to arrange and pay for the bachelorette party.  Then let's not forget the wedding registry.  I've read that these are not as much of a thing as they used to be, but the last wedding I was invited to, there was NOTHING on the registry under $200 and the groom-to-be, who was a co-worker, explained to me that they did it that way because the expectation is that if you are invited with a guest, you're expected to "cover your plate" (which basically means you have to guess what they paid for you to go to their wedding and pay your own way).  And with that, I stopped going to my friends' weddings.  I started my tradition of buying each couple two champagne flutes from Tiffany's.  The bride gets a Tiffany blue box, I buy a nice gift, and I don't have to deal with this "cover the plate" nonsense.  Nor do I have to dress up and go eat a mediocre prime rib and dance to lousy disco pop music.  Everyone wins.

Engagement party?  Oh, hell no!  I will do a bridal shower and wedding once per person that is it.  As for cover the plate - usually in our family someone calls the sister or mother of the bride/groom and is told the plate cost.  It is then spread around the family.  Usually we, for the wedding, give the plate + $100 per adult and the plate for children.  As I get older we have increased the $100.  Most of the plates are around $30 - $45.  My niece who not only held her wedding an hour and a half away (screaming all around) but her plate was $120 and we were aghast.  Our rule is this:  We would like to help you financially start off your household IF you are economically reasonable.  Act all uppity and you lose.  Why would we match the usual formula if she is going to throw away the money like that?  Love your idea of champagne flutes.  Cracking up over "Nor do I have to dress up and eat mediocre prime rib and dance to lousy disco music............"  Hilarious but true.

7 minutes ago, Palomar said:

Maybe Larissa will get her car with AC

How does one even find a car without AC?  That is my question.

I don't know why Larissa's family wouldn't send her a wedding dress. Oh! I get it, this is all pretend.

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Leida is absolutely psychotic.  She loved telling Tasha that her father is chasing after her after she supposedly called off the wedding.  I bet the reason she is with Eric in general is NO ONE ELSE wants her.  

What kills me is she's so upset that Eric is paying for HIS OWN BIO CHILD because he should be supporting her AND HIS NOT EVEN STEPCHILD yet.  The logic...it's awful you have to pay child support for your daughter.  It's taking money out of support for my son!  

I feel so awful for Tasha.  Whether she's a slob or not, her room is her room.  I can understand bitching about the common areas.  But if Tasha is paying rent (yes, Eric let her slide one month) and it's not a hoarding situation, her room should be off limits.  

I hope Tasha emancipates herself from her shithead dad who is more worried about landing someone HE thinks is rich and getting laid than his adult daughter's feelings.  I would also bet he bitches and moans about child support off air to Leida.  Anyone that could talk that way to his adult daughter while psycho bitch from hell is bullying her is someone that probably would be a deadbeat dad if he knew it didn't mean possible jail time.

Meanwhile, Larissa continues to now be my favorite with her "nasty" dress comment.  Sure, she may have a mugshot and is playing Coltie, but at this point I love the dynamic and I would totally watch a spinoff Larissa, Coltie, Deb show.  The cousin was way out of line with his comments to her and showed himself to be a redneck asshole!  I did get the feeling he was also playing to the camera though.

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On 12/12/2018 at 3:57 AM, Kellyee said:

While I do know two people who found very nice wedding dresses for under $800, $2k is not crazy for a wedding dress. And its a discussion that Larissa and Colt should be having, without Mommy the Enforcer.

For most people getting married, I don't think 2k is that crazy. For all of these people, I totally think it's crazy. They literally have a quickie wedding with like a handful of people there and a tight budget. I personally would just go to the courthouse. But that's me.

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1 hour ago, Dance4Life said:

I posted I don’t have kids so I don’t know about their needs.  Only that I have been to Russia twice and spent a lot of in the area in the Stan’s which are CIS. So, same devil.  Lol!

Does Russia make you have dual citizenship when Richie gets his USA passport?  Is this why Richie needs to use his Russian passport to leave Russia and why no visa is issued on his US passport?  

  Then American passport to enter US.

How long did it take you to  get it all sorted? (If your situation is like Olga)

 And, did you make the choice on dual citizenship to make things cheaper and easier since your kids go back and forth?

I feel like just an American passport would benefit him and her right now.  This makes it clear this kid’s only home is America since she is still vulnerable on her status if she comes here.  (Obviously, it is not what I think! Lol)

I also have a different country on my passport as my birth place. But, I have no need for dual citizenship. It is totally safe but I want to make it crystal clear  I only have one home! :’)

If you are born in Russia to a Russian citizen, Russia recognizes you as a citizen unless and until you renounce citizenship when you are 18 or older (which is a ridiculously difficult process and I have yet to hear of anyone who arrived in the US as a child, is a US citizen and has done it successfully).  A parent can't choose for a Russian minor child to no longer be a Russian citizen, so Richie is bound by the Russian rules. He must travel on his Russian passport and there is no way to get around it. Yes, he would enter the US on his US passport.

My situation is different. Both my children were born in Russia and my husband and I adopted them. They originally left Russia on their Russian passports with US visas and entered the US with same. They were not officially US citizens until we provided all the paperwork at Immigration. I have been told they became US citizens once the wheels of the plane hit US soil, but there was still all the paperwork to provide and process. When entering and leaving Russia, they are still bound by Russian citizenship rules.

By the way - US citizenship is different for children from countries (like South Korea) who complete the adoption process in the US - ours was completed in Russia.

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54 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

More power to him, then. His mother has reached retirement age and is not able to be financially independent. Maybe Colt is maxing out a 401(K) so he doesn't have to worry about that? Maybe he follows Suze Orman's advice and has 12 months of expenses in savings and he only buys things when he can pay for them outright. When did it become emasculating to live beyond your means?

 

Do you know that for sure?   Unless you are privy to Debbie’s financials, you would know as much as I. 

 

54 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

That's an interesting perspective. What other possessions must a real manly man own? I don't know who originally owned the car, but I'd guess that Debbie doesn't find it an inconvenience to drive Colt to and from work and sharing a car has worked for them. Plenty of people would find it wasteful to own two cars and have one of them sitting on the driveway all the time.

 

Then, if that was the case, why doesn’t Colt drive himself to work like a big boy?  Why, because Debbie uses the car during the day.  So if they had two cars, both could in use at the same time and not sitting in the driveway.

Second, it’s probably a pain to drop off and pick up everyday. Debbie is probably happy to do it, because it makes her feel needed.  But it is babying her son which really isn’t good for him.   If Colt acted like an adult man, he’d get a car for himself and drive his big boy self to work.  Hey, bet he could find a car for cheap without air conditioning.  

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14 minutes ago, LGGirl said:

Do you know that for sure?   Unless you are privy to Debbie’s financials, you would know as much as I. 

 

Then, if that was the case, why doesn’t Colt drive himself to work like a big boy?  Why, because Debbie uses the car during the day.  So if they had two cars, both could in use at the same time and not sitting in the driveway.

Second, it’s probably a pain to drop off and pick up everyday. Debbie is probably happy to do it, because it makes her feel needed.  But it is babying her son which really isn’t good for him.   If Colt acted like an adult man, he’d get a car for himself and drive his big boy self to work.  Hey, bet he could find a car for cheap without air conditioning.  

He could just leave Debbie home without a car.  

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43 minutes ago, Spike said:

He could just leave Debbie home without a car.  

But then Larissa would have to sit home with Debbie doing nothing, instead of going out shopping for things she can't have.  I guess then there's the question of whether or not this would improve her quality of life...

And once she kicks Debbie out she may be fortunate enough to be the one picking up Colt-ee from work, in their totally un-sexy, a/c'less - but fan equipped - car.

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1 hour ago, jumper sage said:

 

How does one even find a car without AC?  That is my question.

 

On the Tell All, Debbie said that the AC broke in Seattle and they never bothered getting it fixed. How anyone could move to Vegas and not get the AC fixed is another question.

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4 minutes ago, Gobi said:

On the Tell All, Debbie said that the AC broke in Seattle and they never bothered getting it fixed. How anyone could move to Vegas and not get the AC fixed is another question.

What I don't buy is how they drive it with the windows up? They would suffocate.

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4 minutes ago, Cherrio said:

What I don't buy is how they drive it with the windows up? They would suffocate.

They have to keep the windows closed while filming, otherwise the road/wind noise would drown out the dialogue.

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34 minutes ago, Gobi said:

On the Tell All, Debbie said that the AC broke in Seattle and they never bothered getting it fixed. How anyone could move to Vegas and not get the AC fixed is another question.

She also said they plan to fix it but have more pressing expenses.

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29 minutes ago, Gobi said:

They have to keep the windows closed while filming, otherwise the road/wind noise would drown out the dialogue.

I agree, but I don't think there would be much discussion when you are gasping for air. :)

I live in a climate where 100 degrees and terrible humidity is the norm at times and I have to open the car and let it get some air before I get in.   I actually never run my A/C and drive with the windows open.   But I could never ever drive with the windows closed, there is no air to breathe.

I think Dolt and Debbie saw an opportunity to make a few bucks and like most reality folks are dumb enough to do it. Debbie will be able to splurge on a few more vinyl tablecloths, Coltee a few more cat clothes.

As far as I have read, this show pays very little, so I guess I watch because I continue to be fascinated why these people do it and always end up looking stupid and the rest.

19 minutes ago, Spike said:

She also said they plan to fix it but have more pressing expenses.

More hamburger and hot dog buns?  :)      Eyebrow pencil?

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I’ve read all 10 pages of the snark as of 4pm today, so forgive me if I somehow missed it, but am I the only one who noticed that Leida called Tasha a c-u-next-Tuesday during their argument? 

Yes, Tasha said it first, and that wasn’t OK. However, I’d be more than angry if someone I didn’t know and/or couldn’t stand (who would eventually become my “stepmother”) had the audacity to open a closed door, that lead into my bedroom, to essentially case the joint and then proceeded to behave like Leida did. Additionally, add up all of Leida’s shenanigans + screeching like an improper banshee = I’d most likely call her that word as well. 

That said, for Leida to turn right around (without zero hesitation!) and call her fiancé’s daughter the same word?

I don’t have the words. I just can’t with Leida. I thought she was a terrible person before, but the c-u-next-Tuesday word is pretty extreme.

Also, her son eating breakfast out of a styrofoam “to go” container, in the living room, glued to a video game, without any adult supervision tells me all I need to know about her “parenting skills.” I couldn’t tell what he was eating, but I noticed it was big & round and should have been cut into small pieces. I know he’s old enough not to choke on a Cheerio, but I began to babysit at the age of 10 and worked as a nanny while in college. I would never let a child eat unsupervised - ever. In fact, when I had to attend a CPR recertification class, I took away two pieces of info about choking that forever changed my life:

1. No one (especially adults who are driving solo) should eat in an automobile. Ever.  The risk of choking while driving or riding in a car is insanely high. I never knew that or even had it on my radar, but it made so much sense once the instructor told us about it. 

2. Depending on the size of your fur baby, (dogs that can be scooped up and fit on your lap are the best candidates) you can perform the Heimlich maneuver on them the same exact way you’d perform it on an infant (face down on one thigh).

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24 minutes ago, Cherrio said:

I live in a climate where 100 degrees and terrible humidity is the norm at times and I have to open the car and let it get some air before I get in.   I actually never run my A/C and drive with the windows open.   But I could never ever drive with the windows closed, there is no air to breathe.

OMG!  I live in Michigan with temps not that hot as yours and I still use the auto start to get the ac going in the summer.  Using auto start in the winter is the best invention ever.

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4 hours ago, sasha206 said:

shithead dad who is more worried about landing someone HE thinks is rich and getting laid than his adult daughter's feelings.  I would also bet he bitches and moans about child support off air to Leida. 

I have serious doubts about the fulfillment of said desire. Haha the way Leida refused his hand claiming she's "holding stuff" on the way to check out the venue was telling. He hasn't hit that yet. And likely the "marriage" will be null and void when she refuses to consummate it bc the bed isn't proper.

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21 minutes ago, Kdawg82 said:

I have serious doubts about the fulfillment of said desire. Haha the way Leida refused his hand claiming she's "holding stuff" on the way to check out the venue was telling. He hasn't hit that yet. And likely the "marriage" will be null and void when she refuses to consummate it bc the bed isn't proper.

Very good point!  Is he holding out in HOPES she'll fuck him?  Or that maybe mom and dad will expire and they will be the rightful heir to their fortune?  

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1 minute ago, magemaud said:
5 hours ago, HaaCHOO said:

Asuelu needs someone from his own culture...someone who has lived in the USA for a  l-o-n-g time...to explain how things work.

Paging Father Kalani! 

Priceless!  You would think he would be helpful.

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