Season 6 Discussion

[Rdh1314]

26 minutes ago, Drogo said:

Something smells 

I don't believe for a second we're getting an accurate depiction of what Steven and Olga's days are like.  TLC would have us believe she is breastfeeding the entire day while Steven runs errands and gets upset at her.  We couldn't see any footage of them planning their park outing... only the frustration over the carseat?  And we couldn't see them going to the pediatrician's office together about the baby's rash... only Steven's frustrating Lost In Translation experience with a pharmacist? 

I also don't believe there's any abuse or feelings of sexual ownership here - Steven was frustrated that they didn't sleep next to each other.  Which yeah, I get that and I don't think I'm a deviant.  Nobody wants to travel 5000 miles to be treated like an incapable nuisance.  I think my boy Steven's doing his best and feeling unappreciated when he's really looking for some words of affirmation that he's a good dad, which he really wants to be. 

Olga's insistence on doing everything herself ("Mom takes care of baby") and her patronizing "Steven/Steven/Steven!"s are alienating him; he's already feeling alienated in a place where he can't communicate with most people, and insecure about his abilities to father a child as a fatherless child.

And I'm not at all afraid he's going to harm her. 

Agree 100%!  

[greekmom]

10 hours ago, millennium said:

Congratulations, show!  You made me feel sorry for POS Eric.  I would have thought it impossible, but there it is.   If Leida accidentally gets smooshed by an errant steamroller in the next episode, I won't complain.  

Really? I don't feel sorry for Eric at all.

Let's say that Leida parent's are rich (doubtful but let's pretend), Eric seriously gave her false expectation on how his life in America is truly.  I bet he sold himself as solid middle class American and actually is just above the poverty line (at this point, I think that Daynelle had more while she was on the show begging for Mohamett to kiss her). Damn, even the guy that married Daya a few seasons ago, had more money and he was living with roommates and ACTUALLY had a real bed. 

So, why did little Miss Ritchie Rich Leida go after sad sack grey skinned, losing his hair pushing onto 60 Eric?  My guess, she couldn't get into the States without him.  I think her main focus is to be an actress and this was the only way.  Sad really, cause of Alless.

Steven I can't even.  The kid needs a good few slaps.  Kalani needs to go back to her real "husband" - her sister and live happily ever after. Jay and Ashley, really don't care.  Dolt/Larissa/Dolt's mom need to watch Big Love together and get a duplex or a home with a granny suite.

[Drogo]

24 minutes ago, Mr. Minor said:

It makes sense. I'm sure these people sign a contract and have no control of the edit they receive. The edit Steven is getting on this show so far is going to follow him around for a long time.

The interesting thing is, no one's really ever shown in a flattering light, necessarily.. the difference is the Steven/Olga snippets always show Olga only in reaction to Steven, so whatever she says is part of The Steven Problem anyway. 

With the other couples, there's been broadcasted evidence of each party's flaws. 

• Kalani is mean... but Asuelu is untrustworthy and incapable
• Ashley is controlling... but Jay is SKINS and too aloof
• Eric is cheap... but Leida is too spoiled and demanding
• Jonathan is inconsiderate... but Fernanda is too jealous and emotional

But in the Steve/Olga equation, they haven't given us a "too _____" for Olga, only Steven.  I just find it hard to believe she hasn't had any less-than-shining moments they could have included for us.  I agree that this will haunt him for a long time, if not forever- accurate depiction or no. 

[Dance4Life]

Kalani is winning!  Unemployed homeless unwashed single mom getting a nice wedding dress....!

 

  Woo-hooo!  I hope they buy Asuelu a tux or else he is going to show in his beach sarong!  Hahahahahah! 

 

Why are they even even getting marry?  Asuelu already hates her! 

 

Everything bothers her.  Even the brother’s joke has to be made public.  It even bothered her to take Oliver to meet his real Samoan family when she CHOSE that family! 

Edited December 3, 2018 by Dance4Life

[usernameG]

Larissa driving around in the car with the squirt bottle fan killed me. 

[islandgal140]

Kalini? So the dress is what is making it all too real for you now? The dress? Not when you spread it low and wide and lost your "virginity" to Samoa's answer to Patrick Starfish (RIP Spongebob creator)? Not when you had your feet up in stirrups and was delivering the result of spreading it low and wide to Samoa's answer to Patrick Starfish? But the dress is? An item of clothing overrides your 1st sexual experience and childbirth? Welp, I guess Miranda Priestly would be proud.

Speaking of, if we were to make a parody of that hit movie and call it The Devil Wears Bridal, the star would be Leida. Nothing else to say about that demonic she-beast besides wondering if she smells of sulphur. Eric just seems determined to create his own personal hellscape with her. 

Vying for Leida's demonic crown is Steven. Who would have guessed that the somewhat bratty slacker we saw in ep1 would have devolved into the abusive angry beast we now have before us? I wanted to rage when he said 'you don't know about the stuff happening inside me" or some such shit. I wanted to shake him and say that just a mere 2 weeks ago literally 1/4 of her insides were on the outside so that the docs could reach in with their hands and pull out a human being so STFU about your feelings bitch!! I mean it is not enough that she was "raised" in a Russian orphanage and has no family support, she has to deal with his bitchassedness while recovering from surgery and trying to bond with, nurse and care for her child.

WTF is Steve wanting  thanks for shit he is supposed to be doing?!? He is supposed to be taking care of and supporting Olga and his son. He is supposed to be going out and purchasing food and meds for Olga and his son. He is supposed to be cleaning and washing. All because Olga can't and newsflash, neither can the baby. Has he been generous with the thank yous? Has he thanked Olga for carrying his son to term, going through labor pains, getting cut from stem to stern to deliver the baby, nursing him, caring for him? Is his thank you card in the mail?

The only soulmates on this show are Debbie and Coltie. They make a lovely incestuous codependent lesbian couple.  Deb knows what the fuck she is doing. She threw out that living in a senior community shit and watched Coltie slowly panic. Anyone notice that with every living suggestion Coltie threw out there, his ideas kept moving Deb closer and closer to him? From in the same neighborhood, to down the block, to next door to suggesting buying a house i.e., back to living under the same roof with her.  I'm glad the scene ended there, I am sure the next move would have him just where he wants - back to living in utero. 

[shockermolar]

8 hours ago, Mothra said:

Olga's misery took me back to my early days of nursing a baby.  It's good in all kinds of ways that she's nursing, but nursing a baby does tire you, and after a week or so, you begin to feel as if your body doesn't belong to you any more.  For her pissant boyfriend to give her shit for not fucking him (I am sure that's what he means when he says she no longer "shows him that she loves him") is just too goddam much.  Don't give in, Olga.

OTOH lack of sex is probably a big part of why Steven is being extra-shitty, especially as he sees Baby Richie suckling.

EXACTLY. The minute he said she needed to "show" him her appreciation and not just tell him I looked over to Mr. Shockermolar and was like, yup he's pissed because she's not DTF. And given the surgical incision, nursing newborn, sore nipples and likely still some lochia what kind of it horrible excuse for humanity would actually say that knowing he was on camera? And all the nonsense about the baby not coming first? WTF? For Olga that baby will not only come before YOU for the rest of his life, he's come before HER. That's parenting in a nutshell.  And my hatred of him skyrocketed even more. No STEVEN you aren't running errands for Olga asshat, you're taking care of your newborn son. Even my 20 year old son, during the pharmacy scene, was all "What is up with this guy? That's like $20USD. It's MEDICINE for your BABY. Gah!"

[magemaud]

Gee, I don’t see any impressive floral arrangements at Leida’s first wedding, at least not on the altar. Maybe there were all at the reception? Or maybe those arrangements she showed the thirsty florist were just the venue’s usual displays for the public? Maybe even silk flowers? I’ve been to weddings where the lobby and other public areas have massive flower arrangements where the bride and groom take photographs, but they were provided by the venue as part of the ambiance. 

[TipseyGirl]

11 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

His unkempt eyebrows spinning in random directions

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa!

[Gobi]

When Coltie said "It's like we're living in a desert. Isn't that weird?" I wanted Larissa to say " It's like we're living in a desert without air conditioning. Isn't that weird? "

[usernameG]

9 minutes ago, shockermolar said:

EXACTLY. The minute he said she needed to "show" him her appreciation and not just tell him I looked over to Mr. Shockermolar and was like, yup he's pissed because she's not DTF. And given the surgical incision, nursing newborn, sore nipples and likely still some lochia what kind of it horrible excuse for humanity would actually say that knowing he was on camera? And all the nonsense about the baby not coming first? WTF? For Olga that baby will not only come before YOU for the rest of his life, he's come before HER. That's parenting in a nutshell.  And my hatred of him skyrocketed even more. No STEVEN you aren't running errands for Olga asshat, you're taking care of your newborn son. Even my 20 year old son, during the pharmacy scene, was all "What is up with this guy? That's like $20USD. It's MEDICINE for your BABY. Gah!"

I really want to smack this kid around. The look on poor Olga's face when he goes on rants. The poor girl looks exhausted from it all. He should be appreciating and helping HER for just giving birth to their son. 

Edited December 3, 2018 by usernameG

[Cherrio]

I loved Leida's plea that she did not want a flat wedding.  I thought it was a funny way of describing that dreary ugly reception room.

[millennium]

34 minutes ago, greekmom said:

Really? I don't feel sorry for Eric at all.

Let's say that Leida parent's are rich (doubtful but let's pretend), Eric seriously gave her false expectation on how his life in America is truly.  I bet he sold himself as solid middle class American and actually is just above the poverty line (at this point, I think that Daynelle had more while she was on the show begging for Mohamett to kiss her). Damn, even the guy that married Daya a few seasons ago, had more money and he was living with roommates and ACTUALLY had a real bed. 

So, why did little Miss Ritchie Rich Leida go after sad sack grey skinned, losing his hair pushing onto 60 Eric?  My guess, she couldn't get into the States without him.  I think her main focus is to be an actress and this was the only way.  Sad really, cause of Alless.

I agree with everything you wrote about Eric.  THAT's how heinous I find Leida.  

[Dance4Life]

27 minutes ago, greekmom said:

Really? I don't feel sorry for Eric at all.

Let's say that Leida parent's are rich (doubtful but let's pretend), Eric seriously gave her false expectation on how his life in America is truly.  I bet he sold himself as solid middle class American and actually is just above the poverty line (at this point, I think that Daynelle had more while she was on the show begging for Mohamett to kiss her). Damn, even the guy that married Daya a few seasons ago, had more money and he was living with roommates and ACTUALLY had a real bed. 

 

Most have been desperately poor. It is a requirement to be on the show. There was that one guy from New Orleans with the Thai girl living with cockroaches and they showed it.  

 

The only ones that had a little money or at least employed with a ‘good’ house were Melonie, Molly and maybe the guy with 19 year old Nikki (?).  He got her a car. He had a daughter her age and hopefully they became friends. 

They had a cute wedding in Hawaii.

You see, that guy was simple and frugal. He was just an old perv that wanted a young new wife to enjoy his money with.

 

 He is everything Eric pretends to be!

 

(I can think of 2 other couples, but won’t drag out this post). 

[millennium]

Just now, Dance4Life said:

Most have been desperately poor. It is a requirement to be on the show. There was that one guy from New Orleans with the Thai girl living with cockroaches and they showed it.  

 

I forget his name, but he was one of the few American men on this show to demonstrate genuine compassion for his imported bride.   She was woefully unhappy here, pining away for her family and homeland.   And because he loved her, he left everything behind and moved to Thailand.

[Dance4Life]

8 minutes ago, magemaud said:

Gee, I don’t see any impressive floral arrangements at Leida’s first wedding, at least not on the altar. Maybe there were all at the reception? Or maybe those arrangements she showed the thirsty florist were just the venue’s usual displays for the public? Maybe even silk flowers? I’ve been to weddings where the lobby and other public areas have massive flower arrangements where the bride and groom take photographs, but they were provided by the venue as part of the ambiance. 

That guy watching the show laughing his ass off!  He couldn’t stand her and left in just 2 short years! The only thing he left her with was an account to American  Cupid.  It worked!

(Yea, then there is Aless but we don’t know the whole story about that).

 

She can’t keep up with the lies.  My dad is a doctor and paid $300,000 for my first wedding.

 

 I am a doctor but want to come to America because doctors don’t make any money in Indonesia.

 

Which one is it, Hun??

[LGGirl]

1 hour ago, Cherrio said:

I don't think they have much in Baraboohole Wis. except a bunch of ignorant losers.

Wow. That’s painting a description of Baraboo with a wide brush.  I’m sure there are more good intelligent residents than not.   It’s not fair to demonize a whole town over a picture of some stupid boys — and Eric.

[Dance4Life]

5 minutes ago, millennium said:

I forget his name, but he was one of the few American men on this show to demonstrate genuine compassion for his imported bride.   She was woefully unhappy here, pining away for her family and homeland.   And because he loved her, he left everything behind and moved to Thailand.

That was the cockroach guy.  They left because he couldn’t afford America. They moved away from New Orleans because she was acting kinda you know What!  He kinda slipped in his talking head and told us. They tried Oregon first. 

 

This is what Annie and Penguin need to do.  They can be Baht rich in Thailand!

[Gem 10]

2 hours ago, CoachWristletJen said:

These two! LOL!

There's so much irony here. I'm guessing Leida wants to make the local Holiday Inn look splashy to show off how well Eric can provide, but by getting in these nickel and dime bickering sessions over choosing her flowers over his child support, she kind of defeats the purpose.

What I want to know is, why do these couples have to have a wedding in the first place?  Just go to City Hall if it’s too expensive Colte and Eric, specifically.  Two cheapos and they are having a splashy wedding.  I don’t get it.  Better to buy a bed for the kid Eric, and a couch for Colte’s big shot fiancé.  Better yet Colte, buy Larissa a dress that doesn’t go up to her he-ha.  She’s beginning to look like a streetwalker.

[millennium]

1 minute ago, Dance4Life said:

That was the cockroach guy.  They left because he couldn’t afford America. They moved away from New Orleans because she was acting kinda you know What!  He kinda slipped in his talking head and told us. They tried Oregon first. 

 

This is what Annie and Penguin need to do.  They can be Baht rich in Thailand!

I'm not sure if I missed the relevant talking head ... but my impression was that he left not for economic reasons (because there was no guarantee of employment for him in Thailand -- probably the opposite) but because she was so unhappy.    

[Lesia]

7 hours ago, Stacee said:

How Olga was able to keep it together AND deal with a newborn + that 20 yr old baby Steven is beyond me. 

and- SHE'S DOING THIS NOT USING HER NATIVE LANGUAGE!!!!

THAT to me is amazing.

[usernameG]

Every conversation that Kalani has with Ansuelo is a trap for him. She purposely sets him up to fail with her family because she's a giant asshole. I think this is the couple I hate the most this season.  That's saying a lot because I really can't stand Leida and greasy headed Eric.

[Mr. Miner]

7 minutes ago, millennium said:

but my impression was that he left not for economic reasons (because there was no guarantee of employment for him in Thailand -- probably the opposite) but because she was so unhappy.    

That, and I don't think he could get far enough away from his embarrassing and alcoholic mother.

[Pepper Mostly]

12 hours ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

Jonathan's mom certainly knows how to make an event all about her, doesn't she? She was practically rending her shirt with grief over not being the one trying on wedding dresses. And "age appropriate?" Look in a mirror, lady. 

 

The way she says, through gritted teeth, "this is not how I thought I'd spend my day!" WTF lady. You are not in jail or picking someone up at the ER. You are sitting in extreme comfort in a bridal shop watching a lovely young lady try on beautiful dresses. Sheesh. And the way she kept sniping that she should pick something "more age appropriate". Like maybe pink dotted swiss and some black patent leather Mary Janes with frilly ankle socks?

9 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Omg!  I saw that sarong and couldn’t stop laughing.  They look down on him because he is poor. I love when he talks and messes with them.  I like Kalani because she is American and rich.  Yes, I wanted to come to America. See! I set my goals and I am here in America now.  Yall heifers need your own goals!

I think  Asuelu is trolling too. And Kalani can miss me with her pearl clutching over the brother. I'm just spitballing here, but I think his remark was more along the lines of the appreciative women at the airport after Asuelu's dance. "If things don't work out, call me!". Maybe a ham fisted "compliment". Not a crude insult. Color me skeptical.

1 hour ago, trimthatfat said:

Debbie made the senior living community sound like prison. I’ve worked for one and have also visited family members living in one. They are basically apartments/condos for older individuals. They aren’t depressing at all. My aunt’s community has community activities and holiday events.

Debbie was really laying it on thick with her terror of a "senior place". Do they have workhouses in Las Vegas? It reminds me of that schmaltzy old poem, "Over the Hill to the Poorhouse"

https://www.bartleby.com/360/3/107.html

26 minutes ago, usernameG said:

Larissa driving around in the car with the squirt bottle fan killed me. 

Larissa was hilarious last night. For real.

14 minutes ago, usernameG said:

I really want to smack this kid around. The look on poor Olga's face when he goes on rants. The poor girl looks exhausted from it all. He should be appreciating and helping HER for just giving birth to their son. 

Olga looks so beaten down and exhausted. She still could barely stand up straight when they were heading out to the "fancy park". She looks so pale. I lost an insane amount of blood when I had my C section, my poor father almost fainted when he saw me. That Steven can't see how fragile she looks speaks volumes.

[StatisticalOutlier]

14 hours ago, Chickabiddy said:

A cash bar?!?! Jesus wept. You are having a wedding with 25 guests and can’t even spring for their bar tab? Then just offer soft drinks and sweet tea, but please for the love of all that is holy, don’t expect your guests to pony up for refreshments. 

I couldn't agree more.  It's the height of tackiness, and beneath even Eric.

 

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Seriously, I want start a GoFundMe  to help fund Olga’s escape from that psycho.

Watch that.  Back when 16 & Pregnant first aired, TWOP posters donated to a fund for Catelynn and Tyler because those two just needed a little help to get into college and escape their backgrounds.  We saw how that turned out.

 

14 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Ashley, you and Jay received hundreds of racist comments? Seriously? Maybe bots or people who are filled with hate trawl wedding sites. Most people wouldn't bother. I could see a handful of townspeople - that's it.

I actually think it was people associated with the show who did it.  Or I might not actually think it, but it wouldn't surprise me.

 

14 hours ago, shouldbedancing said:

There's a Google Translate app, you can use the calculator on your own phone and have her type the numbers. It's  not hard Steven, you're doing nothing!

If you're talking about the scene in the pharmacy, it looked like he didn't understand what the amount was, and was asking her to write it down, and she wouldn't do it.  I see producer involvement in that, too, because putting numbers in writing is a common way to overcome language barriers.

 

3 hours ago, annewithaneee said:

I'm guessing it's a filming thing, though -- if the windows are down, there'd be way too much road and wind noise. I think we may have seen Larissa crack it just a bit - like a smoker in winter - in previous episodes. I'd guess/assume that production would mandate windows up for anytime they're putting one of those little cameras on the dashboard (which might be basically all the time, they're such a reality show staple and I'm guessing it's because it's a super cheap way to get all kinds of footage).

Again with producer involvement.

 

1 hour ago, magemaud said:

I wouldn't take fashion advice from Larissa. She had an equally disturbing wardrobe malfunction where I thought I could see her sweaty thong under her too tight/short dress. 

Everything she wears is a disturbing wardrobe malfunction.  Surely she gained weight and hasn't bought new clothes, because I can't imagine picking outfits that fit that horribly.

[Dance4Life]

9 minutes ago, millennium said:

I'm not sure if I missed the relevant talking head ... but my impression was that he left not for economic reasons (because there was no guarantee of employment for him in Thailand -- probably the opposite) but because she was so unhappy.    

After the cockroach crash pad they moved into their own place.  She was unhappy in New Orleans because she didn’t like the people. This is why he took her to Oregon. 

Other than that they were in love and she wasn’t a gold digger......unlike Annie and her stupid dowry. Girls like you don’t get a dowry!  Dowries are for sweet virgins with education. It is funny seeing her family shaking the piggy bank and not even a single penny falls out! Hahaaaha! 

 

I actually think it is a good idea for some of these couples to live in the cheaper countries.  In Asia, you can do e-commerce. I actually did that and made a good living.   He can teach English which would sustain them in a comfy lifestyle.  There are things you can do as an expat.  

[CoachWristletJen]

4 minutes ago, usernameG said:

Every conversation that Kalani has with Ansuelo is a trap for him. She purposely sets him up to fail with her family because she's a giant asshole. I think this is the couple I hate the most this season.  That's saying a lot because I really can't stand Leida and greasy headed Eric.

Without question, Kalani and Asuelu are the most painful to watch. I think it's because he looks like he feels entirely trapped. She's way too big of a bitch for him to seriously be in love with her. Besides, he barely knows her! But he's hanging in there and trying to make it work for the good of his little son, whom he loves dearly! Kalani sits on her ass feeling like she holds all the cards, like he can sit there and put up with her continual degradation and abuse, or he can turn around and leave. He hates his situation with these mean people, but he feels trapped.

Olga can choose to stay in Russia. And Leida can fly home, but Asuelu feels trapped. As far as establishing his own rights as a father, he's stuck in a system that he doesn't really understand! That's why I'm wondering if he's from Samoa or American Samoa. I seriously hope someone watching the show reaches out to him. 

Despite her condescending "NPR voice," Kalani has consistently established to us that she is a stupid person who makes stupid decisions. She's lived in the states all of her life and she's still a big loser, relying on her parents at the age of 30! Her decision to spend money on a hotel room when it was still daylight and she only had an hour more on the road was perfectly indicative of what an idiot she really is.  She simply can't think good or do things good. And she's mean! 

I really hope that someone watching the show reaches out to Asuelu. I think he's smarter than she is, and he's certainly a better person than she is. Even if he did cheat on her, who could blame him? He's not in love with her and never will be at this point. He's just trying to make it work for the sake of the kid. He's only 22 years old!

I think he can move on and find another woman in the States. Also, he can get a job, perhaps not his dream job, but he can work and make a living. He really does need help from someone outside Kalani's wretched family. My guess is someone watching the show will reach out to him.  I could see him setting up house with a woman he cares about and getting joint custody of his son. Perhaps even full custody if Kalani's 'white hot rage' becomes an issue. I don't know whether it is or not, but I see more red flags of stupidity, violence, and inability to cope with Kalani at this point! One of her biggest stupid decisions was to allow her steady stream of abuse to be documented on camera. #TeamAsuelu

[gunderda]

12 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

Coltee and Debbee - Coltee deserved a tight wedgie when he shot down short-term house guest Larissa's complain about the car being hot with a snarky, passive-aggressive "It's like we live in a desert, isn't that weird?" 

I actually had to laugh at that. Although I don't know how they're even driving 1 second in that car with the windows up - something is fishy because Larissa's makeup wasn't melting at all during that car trip. 

11 hours ago, millennium said:

I am convinced Larissa is a professional comic performance artist and this is all a big Borat-like scam.   She is fucking hilarious (the sweat stains on the front and back of her skirt, not so much).

I love her - her talking heads are my favorite and comical relief from the rest of the show. 

3 hours ago, iwasish said:

And now she’s dumping her kid on Eric’s oldest daughter.i wonder if he speaks English at all. Does he even talk? And he should get enrolled in school. 

Kids that young pick it up REALLY fast. 

[usernameG]

Eric has red eyes literally ever talking head shot. Is he drunk?

[eatsleep]

16 hours ago, iwasish said:

She wanted the expensive SUV. Turned her nose up at the smaller one. Wants the furnished apt for 3250 a month instead of the 1650 a month unfurnished. In a year that’s 19000. And 38000 in two years? For furniture. Does that 1600 stop when the value of the furniture is made up? 

I can see moving to a slightly larger place, but she wants everything all at once. Baby steps, honey. One thing at a time. 

Why would Colt even agree to look at apts that cost $3k/month? Was that production-driven conflict? Or was he unaware of the price? 

 

13 hours ago, brilliantbreakfast said:

I don't think Debbie is the one holding the umbilical cord, I think it's Coltee.  See also:  The look of panic on his face at the thought that she might go to a senior residence, something she seems perfectly well prepared to do once her son grows the hell up enough to leave home.  Yes, she's making it too comfortable for him, but HE's the one clinging to mama.

She's not that old. And while she says she is disabled, she seems able to live alone. Drives, walks, climbs stairs, cooks, speaks. You'd think she would finally want some freedom! But if she feels she needs to stay w/ Colt forever, I wonder why she doesn't try harder to get along w/ Larissa?

 

12 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

If it is real..... because I  find it hard to believe as well.   My first thought was that the comments were coming from Jamaica. From his friends that got jealous he is in America with a cute young white girl. Like, he didn’t have to settle for someone like Angela.     Which Jay mentioned on his talking head, too.

Like women who liked him? Doubt it. The rhetoric seemed very American: 14 kids....single mother.....2nd Ammendement.....N word....

 

8 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Like Luis and Kenzie (was that her name?).  Call me Daddy. No!  Says the child.  Lol!

Kensley (not sure of the spelling). 

 

5 hours ago, CoachWristletJen said:

Kalani pisses me off more than any of them because Asuelu doesn't seem to perceive all of his options.

I hope someone watching the show will reach out and offer Asuelu some legal help because he does have rights and judges do frown hard on alienation of affection which Kalani and her Cousin It Twin seem to be working up to doing! Kalani doesn't realize she could lose custody. 

What options? What rights? How could Kalani lose custody?? To Asuelu? In an American court? Never in a million years! For mocking the idiot wearing a grass skirt and no shoes who didn't know what a car seat was? I doubt she's even slightly worried.

 

1 hour ago, Drogo said:

I don't believe for a second we're getting an accurate depiction of what Steven and Olga's days are like.  TLC would have us believe she is breastfeeding the entire day while Steven runs errands and gets upset at her.  We couldn't see any footage of them planning their park outing... only the frustration over the carseat?  And we couldn't see them going to the pediatrician's office together about the baby's rash... only Steven's frustrating Lost In Translation experience with a pharmacist? 

Oh we definitely see Olga becoming more the humorless, wet blanket in each episode! Steven is just tolerating her (barely). He's there for his baby and that's it.  I bet he's thinking of a way he might secure a visa for Richie and leave her behind.

[Gem 10]

Leida wants a room full of expensive flowers, while her little boy sleeps on the floor.  Nice.  I guess he’s not a priority.

[Lady Iris]

1 hour ago, islandgal140 said:

There are diamonds being forged in the bowels of the earth that are experiencing less pressure than the buttons on Coltee's shirt. 

If I'd have made a bet with myself last night, I'd have won. I KNEW this exact scene would pop up here today and I thank you for not disappointing! Ya got shirts that fit Coltee. Put 'em on.

I don't see Eric being the one to decorate that sad plain room adequately for a wedding. It'll take more than flowers to dress it up.

I do hope we're getting a bad edit of Steven and Olga. I'll keep my fingers crossed on that one.

I was surprised Fernanda went with the last dress. Reminded me of Meghan Markle's. I'd have loved to see more. She wore them all beautifully.

[Cherrio]

45 minutes ago, LGGirl said:

Wow. That’s painting a description of Baraboo with a wide brush.  I’m sure there are more good intelligent residents than not.   It’s not fair to demonize a whole town over a picture of some stupid boys — and Eric.

I am sure there are a few good folks, but its population 12,000 so its a very small city.  The photo shows an entire group of juniors participating so that's not great. Plus, many other people spoke about the widespread problems there.

[Dance4Life]

18 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

 

 

If you're talking about the scene in the pharmacy, it looked like he didn't understand what the amount was, and was asking her to write it down, and she wouldn't do it.  I see producer involvement in that, too, because putting numbers in writing is a common way to overcome language barriers.

 

Again with producer involvement.

 

 

That is exactly how they act in Russia.  They have  Soviet mentality and won’t bend over to help foreigners and Americans get the brunt of that attitude.  

 

They blame their suffering on us and don’t see as powerful unlike most other countries! Basically, they don’t have any respect for Americans.  This is why the pharmacist acted like that.  They do it everywhere.

 

 So, if you go to Russia acting helpless like Steven they ignore you.  You need to go there prepare and ready to be independent.

 

Too bad he can’t spend his time in Russia doing nice things since Olga has to stay home.  This is why he is frustrated.  

 

 

He is the one leaving the apartment running all the errands in a foreign Soviet land! I believe it is hard for him. Olga doesn’t understand this part. 

 

When Olga came to America she had a job, money, spoke English and is a cute girl.  Of course, she had a different experience.  

 

We don’t get that in her country!

 

(Yea, I still think he is an abuse boohole).

[Granny58]

2 hours ago, Drogo said:

I would agree, if it wasn't so familiar.  Rather, it reminds me of feelings I felt once (and I know other non-abuser/murderers have felt also when their children were born) but taken completely out of context of the full new-parent experience.  Like someone took your worst moments during a stressful time, and made that into a blooper reel of your life to show the world "who you are."  Not sure if that makes sense. 

well, Drogo, I hope you're right.  I know TLC edits these shows to create "characters," and Steve is now the "evil character."  Again, I hope it is all just bad editing but more than the rage is the gaslighting her...making his rage her fault.  

[Gem 10]

Why was Olga in this country to begin with?  Did she work here in the summer where they met?  I think she said Ocean City, Maryland.  Am I right?

[Gobi]

Just now, Gem 10 said:

Why was Olga in this country to begin with?  Did she work here in the summer where they met?  I think she said Ocean City, Maryland.  Am I right?

You are correct. A lot of tourist areas hire foreign workers for the season.

[KateHearts]

6 hours ago, Rdh1314 said:

I don't see Steven as "fraught with anger" at all.  He and Olga are 20 years old...of course they're out of their element taking care of a baby! I understand Olga just had a C-section and fluctuating hormones, but she could make even the SLIGHTEST effort to be kind and loving to Steven, and things would improve greatly.  She comes across as a very dull bitch.

Wow, really? I find Olga's self-constraint while Steven is grilling her ("have you EVER thanked me for EVERYTHING I'VE DONE FOR YOU?") admirable and notat all dull. She is exhausted (yes, they both are), trying to learn parenting (yes, they both are), and she doesn't have a moment to be "kind and loving" because he is constantly running his mouth about how she puts the baby first (which she should), and about how HIS feelings are hurt.  New dads are sure to feel displaced, especially in the early months as babies require nearly 24/7 direct attention and moms are tired/recovering (in this case from a major surgical procedure); still, any guy with a brain in his head would realize that this is all new and stressful.  Steven doesn't consider her feelings, at all.

[Dance4Life]

23 minutes ago, eatsleep said:

 

 

She's not that old. And while she says she is disabled, she seems able to live alone. Drives, walks, climbs stairs, cooks, speaks. You'd think she would finally want some freedom! But if she feels she needs to stay w/ Colt forever, I wonder why she doesn't try harder to get along w/ Larissa?

 

Like women who liked him? Doubt it. The rhetoric seemed very American: 14 kids....single mother.....2nd Ammendement.....N word....

 

 

Debbie seems like the type that fudge some paperwork to get herself a nice government check!  I think this is what she means by ‘budget.’

 

  She needs to go!  Be free Debbie!  Larissa feels it is 2 against one...so, why should Larissa make any effort to fund her? Debbie needs to be nice to Larissa.  Then come on here and post with us to tell how she acts in real life. 

 

Well, in foreign countries they know all about American lifestyle.  They know that stuff. If not by education then the rap culture.  If Jay is always on the phone and sneaking out then it is more believeable that the person posting those comments are indeed from his Jamaicans honeys.  They are doing it to be hateful towards Ashley and get Jay to come back to Jamaica.

 

or, someone from Ashley’s past.  But, strangers?  Ashley is not that important! 

 

But, producers did not write that.  That is taking it too far from TLC. They have to much too lose. 

[eatsleep]

I wonder if Olga and Steven would have kept in touch and tried to continue their relationship had she not gotten pregnant. Was it just a casual fling or were they actually falling for each other? 

[eatsleep]

3 minutes ago, Dance4Life said:

Well, in foreign countries they know all about American lifestyle.  They know that stuff. If not by education then the rap culture.  If Jay is always on the phone and sneaking out then it is more believeable that the person posting those comments are indeed from his Jamaicans honeys.  They are doing it to be hateful towards Ashley and get Jay to come back to Jamaica.

If the comments were from Jay's girlfriends, i'd expect them to be a lot more hateful toward Ashley, belittling her looks, telling her he'll cheat on her, etc. I doubt they would attempt to deride her about the possibility of becoming a single mom to a bunch of kids....bc that's not a thing there. A lot of Jamaican families are single-parent families. That's White American rhetoric.

[Gem 10]

2 minutes ago, Gobi said:

You are correct. A lot of tourist areas hire foreign workers for the season.

Eatsleep just answered my question.

[Cammi]

On Steven getting a "bad edit": Olga went into labor, was cut open and had major surgery where a big hoss of a baby was pulled from her, hormones out of whack, and is a new mom with no support other than her POS boyfriend who is behaving worse than her infant son in terms of neediness. Whatever bad edit they even decided to give her, would get an automatic pass from me!

And I guess it is because I learned from a young age to detect signs of abuse, that I can recognize the red flags of an abuser. Whether it be emotional or physical. It's abhorrent because when we see someone at the end of an abusive relationship, we ask: "Didn't you see the signs?" Well, imo Steven is waving BRIGHT RED flags and signs aplenty, My guy friend was watching last night with me and he said, "I dunno why everyone is thinking Steven could turn into an abuser, I don't see any abuse". I looked him dead in the eye and asked how old he was when his Mom taught him to walk to his car at night with his keys tucked between his fingers as a weapon. Dead. Silence. Sometimes women have to have a 6th sense about things. End of. Not saying men don't get abused (not going off topic), but as the weaker sex historically, I believe nature has given us a better sense of certain types of danger/harm. Now, whether we listen to our gut is another story. 

Fully agree with everyone saying they fear for Olga. Editors can work magic yes, but dude sat there last night in one long, continuous, unedited take and basically berated this poor girl for not paying him enough attention. She is probably tired, Steven, you colossal asshole. From MAKING A SMALL HUMAN for the past 9 months and still sharing her body's nutrients to feed said human while recuperating from major surgery. Can't believe this is 2018 and I just had to type that out ffs. Steven is just like Molly's vacation side piece from last year. Her dude wanted "vacation Molly". Steven wants "American. unpregnant, vacation, sexpot Olga". Steven even said he was worried she wouldn't look the same pregnant. You think, you little dumbfuck? No pass for you Steven. Go back to the US and tweak your little heart out on some friend's sofa, and leave Olga to fend for herself. She'll be better off. 

[Rdh1314]

21 minutes ago, KateHearts said:

Wow, really? I find Olga's self-constraint while Steven is grilling her ("have you EVER thanked me for EVERYTHING I'VE DONE FOR YOU?") admirable and notat all dull. She is exhausted (yes, they both are), trying to learn parenting (yes, they both are), and she doesn't have a moment to be "kind and loving" because he is constantly running his mouth about how she puts the baby first (which she should), and about how HIS feelings are hurt.  New dads are sure to feel displaced, especially in the early months as babies require nearly 24/7 direct attention and moms are tired/recovering (in this case from a major surgical procedure); still, any guy with a brain in his head would realize that this is all new and stressful.  Steven doesn't consider her feelings, at all.

Please explain and describe how Olga considers Steven's feelings.  When we see them together.  Maybe I'm missing something. 

[Gem 10]

Let’s face facts here.  Colte and Larissa do not gel together at all.  Colte is a nerd, and Larissa is a hot number.  They look ridiculous together.  She is here for the green card, then will dump him.  Am I correct?

[KateHearts]

4 minutes ago, Rdh1314 said:

Please explain and describe how Olga considers Steven's feelings.  When we see them together.  Maybe I'm missing something. 

Olga, for one, doesn't constantly complain about what Steven is not doing for her. And honestly, the first few weeks post-partum are not the time to "work on relationships" or try to pussyfoot around their partners' feelings.  Perhaps she isn't going out of her way to be a loving spouse/partner, but I would have to give her a pass as a new mother who is recovering from surgery and breastfeeding. I've been there; it's a level of exhaustion, hormonal turmoil and a sense of being overwhelmed unlike no other.

I don't see either one of them as being overly considerate or loving. But Steven is the only one of the two who is complaining and demanding much more of his partner than she can possibly give at this point in time.

[Guest]

#FreeOlga

[iwasish]

1 hour ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I couldn't agree more.  It's the height of tackiness, and beneath even Eric.

 

Watch that.  Back when 16 & Pregnant first aired, TWOP posters donated to a fund for Catelynn and Tyler because those two just needed a little help to get into college and escape their backgrounds.  We saw how that turned out.

 

I actually think it was people associated with the show who did it.  Or I might not actually think it, but it wouldn't surprise me.

 

If you're talking about the scene in the pharmacy, it looked like he didn't understand what the amount was, and was asking her to write it down, and she wouldn't do it.  I see producer involvement in that, too, because putting numbers in writing is a common way to overcome language barriers.

 

Again with producer involvement.

 

Everything she wears is a disturbing wardrobe malfunction.  Surely she gained weight and hasn't bought new clothes, because I can't imagine picking outfits that fit that horribly.

I’m sure she figured she’d get ColtE to buy her a whole new wardrobe. 

Even if Debbie gets her own place, Larissa isn’t going to change ColtE’s cheap ways.

if they get married, she’d better plan on kicking in 50% of everything. 

[Dance4Life]

12 minutes ago, eatsleep said:

If the comments were from Jay's girlfriends, i'd expect them to be a lot more hateful toward Ashley, belittling her looks, telling her he'll cheat on her, etc. I doubt they would attempt to deride her about the possibility of becoming a single mom to a bunch of kids....bc that's not a thing there. A lot of Jamaican families are single-parent families. That's White American rhetoric.

Hahahahah!  That is because Ashley is sneaky.  She read the ones about him.  Not her! There were hundreds and hundreds of comments! 

 

I don’t understand your comment about single moms.  

 

 Jamaica is an English colony, and all those kids work at the resorts.  They understand English and culture very clearly. I am from the Caribbean and it is not any different than America. We know all about America.  How do you think we end up here???

 

I already posted what happened to me when I visited Jamaica.  They will stalk you online.  Now they are stalking Ashley.

 

But, that was not TLC.  The entire network would get shut down over those messages.  They were horrible and unlawful! 

[Gem 10]

3 minutes ago, SnarkEnthusiast said:

#FreeOlga

Yes, that would be very nice but, Steven will always be on her back because of the child, no?