S10.E09: Knee Deep

[Miss Ruth]

2 hours ago, bigskygirl said:

Dan was talking about the money they would get for flooding in the basement and not any contracting job. He said he could do the work himself on his own house and still have money for her surgery. He would have to have receipts for all the work he did on his own home, plus receipts on the work he did not do himself.

I don't think Dan and Roseanne would have any qualms about lying about how the money was spent.

[peacheslatour]

Just now, bigskygirl said:

I think Dan said he would do the work himself to save money in order to get money for her surgery. I do not understand how he would get money for doing the work himself even if he is a licensed contractor.

According to FEMA:

Disaster grants should not be used for travel, entertainment, regular living expenses or any discretionary expenses not related to the disaster.

FEMA encourages you to keep your receipts for three years to show how the funds were spent. After every major disaster, FEMA conducts audits of disaster assistance payments to ensure that taxpayer dollars were properly provided by the agency and appropriately used by recipients.

 Dan is being sneaky by saving money from not hiring others to do the work and use a part of the money to pay for Roseanne's surgery the government could come after him. Of course, this would never be brought up on the show.

Dan owns a contracting business, FEMA pays you money to pay a contractor. The don't stipulate who the contractor has to be. He's not gaming the system when he does legitimate work.

[Tenarife60]

7 hours ago, Chaos Theory said:

Chuck’s wife (I forget her name now) worked at Welman’s plastic.  I think they all went to high school together.  Chuck has been in and out of the show pretty much from the beginning.  

There was an African-American lady that did work at Wellman's with Roseanne, but it wasn't Anne Marie, her name was Vonda.  

[bigskygirl]

9 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Dan owns a contracting business, FEMA pays you money to pay a contractor. The don't stipulate who the contractor has to be. He's not gaming the system when he does legitimate work.

The government might start cracking down on that in cases the person uses the money for non related repair work. I still bs on the whole storyline,

Edited May 23, 2018 by bigskygirl

[peacheslatour]

2 minutes ago, bigskygirl said:

The government might start cracking down on that in cases the person uses the money for non related repair work. I still bs on the whole storyline,

Okay, let's say Dan hires Contractor Bob to do the work. Government pays Contractor Bob for his labor and Contractor Bob spends the money on his wife's operation.

How is that different than Dan getting paid for his own labor and spending the money for Roseanne's operation?

[Tenarife60]

15 minutes ago, bigskygirl said:

According to FEMA:

Disaster grants should not be used for travel, entertainment, regular living expenses or any discretionary expenses not related to the disaster.

Yeah, that's a good point because remember after Hurricane Katrina and people were using the FEMA money for all sorts of crazy things.  Someone even used it to get a sex-change operation and they got caught.  It makes you wonder if Dan and Roseanne won't get caught using the money for things not intended.  

[TattleTeeny]

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Dan and Chuck were struggling to find work before the flooding hit, so I do not expect them to find a lot of contractor jobs since there will be a lot of the contractors and workers applying for the same jobs.

But why not? A damaging flood is much different than contracting jobs for voluntary or less urgent stuff like adding rooms or building garages or whatever; floods affect more people at one time and those people want it fixed ASAP, before foundation damage and mold sets in. Plus, lots of previously contracted jobs--especially ones that are from the ground up--may have to go on hold because the building can't start until parts of the town recover from the mess a flood leaves.

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Dan owns a contracting business, FEMA pays you money to pay a contractor. The don't stipulate who the contractor has to be. He's not gaming the system when he does legitimate work.

Yeah--it would be like Dan the employer not cutting a check for Dan the employee of his own company for the work. Or Dan the employee using his paycheck from Dan the employer, who is paying for the materials with the FEMA money, but paying one less employee for labor. They just happen to be the same person.

Edited May 23, 2018 by TattleTeeny

[willowk]

21 hours ago, katie9918 said:

Why weren’t Becky, Darlene, and DJ downstairs helping Dan out in the basement? If that was my dad with a bad back down there, I’d be down with him helping out.

 

This was the first time I actually liked Harris, in that scene encouraging Darlene.

My thought exactly. I've had flooded basements and everyone helps out -although you have to be careful to be sure there's no electrical issues -water can carry a current.

[peacheslatour]

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Yeah--it would be like Dan the employer not cutting a check for Dan the employee of his own company for the work. They just happen to be the same person.

Exactly.

[TattleTeeny]

Haha, good--I think I confused myself!

[bigskygirl]

51 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Okay, let's say Dan hires Contractor Bob to do the work. Government pays Contractor Bob for his labor and Contractor Bob spends the money on his wife's operation.

How is that different than Dan getting paid for his own labor and spending the money for Roseanne's operation?

How can this be consider his own labor? He is doing the work on his own home. And there is a big difference from Dan doing the job than another contractor doing the job and spending the money on his wife's operation. Now if Dan got a job working on another home damaged by the flood and decided to use the money he got for his labor from the job to pay for Roseanne's operation it would be a totally different thing.

FEMA may look at the whole thing and think hey this guy is going to do the work so we can give him less money and just give him money for supplies and material instead of adding the extra cost for labor. I think Dan thought he was going to get a certain total amount from FEMA, and he was going to save money from doing the work himself leading to more money in his pocket to the point he can pay for her operation. He has to show the receipts and invoices from the job in order for FEMA to pay on anything. They will notice no bills for contractors coming in and doing the work, and I bet they will only pay for supplies and material especially since Dan said the job will be around $20,000.

Edited May 23, 2018 by bigskygirl

[peacheslatour]

1 minute ago, bigskygirl said:

How can this be consider his own labor? He is doing the work on his own home. It would be the same if I had a fire inside my house while owning a painting business. I decided to do the paint job repair inside my house instead of hiring one of my workers or someone else to do the job. Should I expect my insurance company to pay for my labor besides my supplies and paint.

If that is your profession, why not? The money is for fixing a problem. Problem gets fixed, contractor gets paid. He can maybe give them a discount on the labor. Say he gets bids from 3 other contractors for the work. He offer to do it for 20 percent less. You can negotiate these things.

[Keywestclubkid]

21 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

So didn't last week's episode end with the suggestion that Roseanne was addicted to pills and her problem was getting worse?  I mean, they showed that she had a secret stash that Dan hadn't found, and she appeared to be ready to take them.  However, in this episode, none of that came up and it's like the whole issue never happened.   

 

 

Other then Darlene’s job there is zero consistency/ continuity in this season 

Edited May 23, 2018 by Keywestclubkid

[Calm81]

On the last episode I said that I’d hope Darlene would create a creative outcome from her job with the casino and write a book about her life leading up to the casino to find some success and....

It somewhat was indicated in this episode. Here’s the screenshot of my “predictions” ???

Edited May 23, 2018 by Calm81

[bigskygirl]

20 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

If that is your profession, why not? The money is for fixing a problem. Problem gets fixed, contractor gets paid. He can maybe give them a discount on the labor. Say he gets bids from 3 other contractors for the work. He offer to do it for 20 percent less. You can negotiate these things.

The money they got also went for Roseanne's surgery. If he can prove he can do the job for less, FEMA may cut back on the money he gets because it is in their favor to give him less money. He gambled on the fact FEMA was going to come in and save the day without realizing he may not get enough money to cover all the expense to repair the damage. He was hoping he could pocket some of the money for Roseanne, but he did not realize FEMA is getting tougher on what money they give out and expect the home owner to account for every single penny they hand out. If he could offer to do it for 20% less, he probably ended up with 20% less FEMA money.

[ItsHelloPattiagain]

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A better storyline would have been a pipe bursting and the insurance company paying out.

I'm wondering if they don't have any insurance on the house. Perhaps they paid the house off at some point (as a lot of older people do) and they they wouldn't be required to have insurance. They would just need to pay their property taxes yearly. 

WIC is up to age five for kids So I don't think Darlene could get it for her kids (However she might have gotten it in the past and that's why she knew what to tell the other woman). 

Loved Becky calling Darlene Morticia and I loved the old Halloween costume on Roseanne!

And I still love the beginning montage when Roseanne licks the churro that DJ's daughter is trying to steal.  It makes me laugh every single time. 

[TattleTeeny]

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How can this be consider his own labor? He is doing the work on his own home. And there is a big difference from Dan doing the job than another contractor doing the job and spending the money on his wife's operation. Now if Dan got a job working on another home damaged by the flood and decided to use the money he got for his labor from the job to pay for Roseanne's operation it would be a totally different thing.

The amount of money that is allotted from FEMA is to (among other things) pay a contractor to repair damages to a home. A contractor is paid not just for labor and materials, but also a profit like any business. Dan is a professional contractor; even if it's his home, he is not expected by the government to take money out of his own pocket to do what FEMA does for non-contractors whose homes flood. He'd be doing the for his home exactly what he'd be doing to someone else's.

It wouldn't really be different; either way he would be using his own pay for her operation; he not only owns the business but he also is a laborer/employee for the business, therefore, he gets a paycheck from the business. The business pays Dan a certain rate and Dan uses money as he sees fit, same as if it were two separate people. People who own a business don't have to work for nothing. 

Edited May 24, 2018 by TattleTeeny

[chocolatine]

59 minutes ago, bigskygirl said:

If he can prove he can do the job for less, FEMA may cut back on the money he gets because it is in their favor to give him less money.

He's not going to prove to FEMA that he can do the job for less. Dan Conner, the private citizen and FEMA funds recipient, will hire Dan & Chuck Contractors (or whatever their name is), the business entity, to fix the basement. Dan & Chuck contractors will charge the full FEMA payout amount for the job. As one of the two principals in Dan & Chuck Contractors, Dan Conner will receive half of the profit from this job, which he can spend whichever way he wants without justifying it to FEMA.

[Browncoat]

6 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

will hire Dan & Chuck Contractors (or whatever their name is), the business entity, to fix the basement.

Probably still Four Aces.  So, invoices go from Four Aces to FEMA, check goes from FEMA to Four Aces and then to Dan and Chuck's pockets. 

Loved the interaction between Becky and Darlene, and then Darlene's follow-up attempt to get better tips by "flirting" at the casino.  Sarah's delivery and timing in the casino scene was gold. 

[chocolatine]

1 minute ago, Browncoat said:

Probably still Four Aces.  So, invoices go from Four Aces to FEMA, check goes from FEMA to Four Aces and then to Dan and Chuck's pockets. 

Exactly, thanks for jogging my memory! :)

[tessaray]

I would need to go back and rewatch but I thought Dan said they could qualify for a FEMA loan because of the disaster declaration?   Well, technically it would be an SBA loan but it's part of the disaster assistance. 

[millk]

I had a knee replacement in September. Life. Changing. I'm Canadian so there is that but in knee groups I've seen quotes of $10,000 to over $100,000. That is going to take some creative accounting.

[saylubee]

6 minutes ago, millk said:

I had a knee replacement in September. Life. Changing. I'm Canadian so there is that but in knee groups I've seen quotes of $10,000 to over $100,000. That is going to take some creative accounting.

All they needed was $3,000 to cover the deductible on their health insurance.

[Browncoat]

They should also get a second and possibly third appraisal for the doll.  Although I didn’t see them pick up the doll before they left the store, and I also didn’t see them collect the hundred bucks the guy offered them.

[AM1418]

12 hours ago, tessaray said:

I would need to go back and rewatch but I thought Dan said they could qualify for a FEMA loan because of the disaster declaration?   Well, technically it would be an SBA loan but it's part of the disaster assistance. 

I just re-watched last night, and did not catch him saying loan. 

[TattleTeeny]

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They should also get a second and possibly third appraisal for the doll.  Although I didn’t see them pick up the doll before they left the store, and I also didn’t see them collect the hundred bucks the guy offered them.

Yeah, that guy liked that doll so much that he probably wants it for himself for cheaps!

[peacheslatour]

4 hours ago, Browncoat said:

They should also get a second and possibly third appraisal for the doll.  Although I didn’t see them pick up the doll before they left the store, and I also didn’t see them collect the hundred bucks the guy offered them.

They should have just put it on ebay and let the bidding begin.

[qtpye]

23 hours ago, JAYJAY1979 said:

Becky and Darlene are an example of a healthy sister relationship.  Both have their own lives and aren't joined at the hip.  Jackie and Roseanne are an example of an unhealthy relationship.  I do think it is realistic in a way that Jackie has reverted mentally to a kid...since she cant face getting older and alone.

Yeah, it wasnt Ann Marie that worked at Wellman...it was another character named Vonda, who appeared in the first two seasons.  I actually liked the factory co workers of Roseanne better then the beauty shop co workers (though I did love Bonnie).

Harris could have inherited her height from her grandpa Dan and also remember...David's mom was tall as well.  Come to.think of it, Harris reminds me a lot of David's mom in personality.

 

21 hours ago, HurricaneVal said:

Yes, Darlene grudgingly realizing that Becky's advice was solid, and her awkward way of implementing it was comedy gold.  Especially since the first guy with the punky hair and "stuck in the '80s but in an ironic way, not a pathetic way" looked like an interesting person that maybe Darlene the "alt-goth girl" could appreciate and joke with, then the second guy was pure skeezy casino denizen who is exactly who Darlene doesn't want to flirt with.

i also think that perhaps Darlene is getting some sort of WIC assistance, because a few episodes back when they were in the grocery store, the family exhibited quite a familiarity with "the system" and helped that other woman.

The writers were kind of staggeringly criminal in how they portrayed FEMA as the white knight riding in to save the day.  It is very irresponsible to portray the disaster response that way, because since it is on TV, people will believe it.  The truth is, a lot of that federal money  come as loans, not free money, and as a poster upthread mentioned, there is heavy scrutiny to prevent fraud, and the money isn't often the windfall allowing people to rebuild a mansion where their shack once stood.  The compensation is really never enough to get back to what was, let alone allow for palatial reconstructions.  And all too often, the compensation is pathetically small, and very, very late.

The real good news, however, about the declaration of the state of emergency in the wake of the devastating storm, is that there will be plenty of work to be had in the area for carpenters, sheetrockers, and others in the construction trades.  Dan should be able to pick up some of that and earn some real money. 

Next season I'd like to see them explore DJ"s issues a little more.  Unless he has crippling PTSD--which we haven't seen any evidence of--DJ should be able to at least pick up unskilled labor jobs, or open a small engine repair shop working on lawn mowers, vacuums, weed-whackers, snow blowers etc out of the garage.  There's no reason for him to be a full-time stay-at-home-dad.

LOVE the Darlene/Becky dynamic.  I've always hated the Roseanne/Jackie dynamic.  I always wanted Jackie to tell Roseanne to shove it.  But somehow she never did, or if she did Roseanne was always proven right in the end. 

 

 

18 hours ago, iMonrey said:

There seems to be a general consensus that the best thing about this reboot has been Becky and Darlene and I agree. Their little jabs at each other are a nice callback to the original show. My favorite line this episode was Becky telling Darlene: "Why must we be hurtful? I'm just saying that you're not an appealing person."

It's kind of hard to think of Becky and Darlene as being in their 40s, though. They are forever ingrained as children and teenagers from that last 30 years of reruns. It's like seeing Greg Brady at age 64. It's just not . . . right.

Overall I enjoyed the reboot, although I feel like they tried to do a little too much with it. Maybe they'll calm down a bit with more episodes next season. They crammed a little too much social commentary into nine of them.

When this show was first on I was a kid. I thought it would be awesome to have a sister who was my best friend and envied Jackie and Roseanne's relationship. On the other hand,  I would have hated to be sisters like Darlene and Becky, who despised each other and had nothing in common. Now that I am an adult I think I have flipped my position. Jackie and Roseanne are not good for each other and Darlene/Becky seem to be pushing each other in the right directions.

17 hours ago, Tenarife60 said:

There was an African-American lady that did work at Wellman's with Roseanne, but it wasn't Anne Marie, her name was Vonda.  

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Dan not being able to support the family was a sore spot, even on the original show. There was that time he flipped out when Jackie wanted to loan him money, and he always seemed to take it as a personal insult when Bev and Ed would buy the kids presents. There was also an episode during the Lunch Box years where one of the recurring characters (can't remember which one) made a comment that Dan was lucky Roseanne had a business to keep them afloat. For whatever reason, issues concerning money were a major trigger for him.

It was Vonda's husband who suggested Roseanne for the awesome job that Roseanne ended up not getting because she did not know computers. I remember the lady saying that Vonda was so perky she wanted to punch her in the face every time she saw her.

Remember when Dan loaned Arnie money for an engagement ring and Arnie got Nancy breast implants? He was adamant that he did not have to discuss such a large loan with Roseanne because it was "a guy thing". Roseanne definitely could be quite bossy around the house but Dan definitely had some more old-fashioned ideas about money.

[peacheslatour]

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Yeah, it wasnt Ann Marie that worked at Wellman...it was another character named Vonda, who appeared in the first two seasons.  I actually liked the factory co workers of Roseanne better then the beauty shop co workers (though I did love Bonnie).

And like Bonnie, she could sing like a bird. Remember the (stupid) musical episode where Roseanne killed her entire family? 

[Colorado David]

17 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Other then Darlene’s job there is zero consistency/ continuity in this season 

Bottle episodes, yeah. Becky's job did you mean? Darlene just got her job. And for some reason Jackie seems to think louder lines means funnier, it gets abrasive at times. But I love the show.

[iMonrey]

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They should have just put it on ebay and let the bidding begin.

I thought that too, but if they advertise it as having the original body and it doesn't, they're selling it under false pretenses. I don't know how it works with eBay - presumably the buyer would demand a refund once they discovered they'd been duped. If Roseanne correctly advertised it as having a replacement body she probably wouldn't get more than the $100 the antiques dealer was offering. 

[Dee]

2 hours ago, qtpye said:

It was Vonda's husband who suggested Roseanne for the awesome job that Roseanne ended up not getting because she did not know computers. I remember the lady saying that Vonda was so perky she wanted to punch her in the face every time she saw her.

Vonda's husband, Phil, recommended Roseanne for an interview with his job's personnel director Muriel, who told Roseanne she was responsible for getting Phil from the loading dock and who felt Vonda was so perky that Muriel wanted to drive a nail through her head.

Edited May 24, 2018 by Dee

[StaceyNotStacie]

During the Halloween reminiscing scene, Becky said something to Harris. I think it was the only time the two women interacted during the series. I hope we get to see the two of them interact more next season. Becky had a great relationship with Jackie and it would be interesting to see her in the aunt role to Harris. 

[Mu Shu]

Thank god this ended on an upbeat note.

Why would Becky be stuck at the restaurant and Darlene get the better tip making opportunity?  Becky would be better at the casino job and would get preference over sour puss Darlene.

i missed a few episodes.  Was Becky working there, and got Darlene the job? 

[peacheslatour]

4 minutes ago, Mu Shu said:

Thank god this ended on an upbeat note.

Why would Becky be stuck at the restaurant and Darlene get the better tip making opportunity?  Becky would be better at the casino job and would get preference over sour puss Darlene.

i missed a few episodes.  Was Becky working there, and got Darlene the job? 

Crystal was retiring from there and got Darlene the job after Becky passed on it. FWIW, I think you're right, Becky would have been a much better fit. Maybe they'll use Darlene's surliness for yuks?

[Zoe]

6 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

Yeah, that guy liked that doll so much that he probably wants it for himself for cheaps!

"That guy" was French Stewart, BTW.  I don't think I've seen anybody mention that!

Kind of hard to recognize him without his trademark squinting and nasal voice.

Edited May 24, 2018 by Zoe

[peacheslatour]

2 minutes ago, Zoe said:

"That guy" was French Stewart, BTW.  I don't think I've seen anybody mention that!

Kind of hard to recognize him without his trademark squinting and nasal voice.

 

From 3rd Rock? Awesome, maybe George will make an appearance. Nah, probably not now that JGL is a movie star. George was such an odd kid, I'd love it of it turned out that he became a famous author, wouldn't that just grind Darlene's gears?

Edited May 24, 2018 by peacheslatour

[Zoe]

3 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

From 3rd Rock? Awesome, maybe George will make an appearance. Nah, probably not now that JGL is a movie star. George was such an odd kid, I'd love it of it turned out that he became a famous author, wouldn't that just grind Darlene's gears?

JGL is probably more realistic than Leonardo DiCaprio at least ;)

They could bring back Ashley Johnson to be DJ's boss!

[Browncoat]

15 minutes ago, Zoe said:

"That guy" was French Stewart, BTW.  I don't think I've seen anybody mention that!

Kind of hard to recognize him without his trademark squinting and nasal voice.

I had no idea!  Too bad I've already deleted this ep, or I'd watch that scene again.  He was hilarious on 3rd Rock.  Well, to be fair, they all were.

[peacheslatour]

8 minutes ago, Zoe said:

JGL is probably more realistic than Leonardo DiCaprio at least ;)

They could bring back Ashley Johnson to be DJ's boss!

True that. Same with Clooney since he lives in Italy and er...well... because of other reasons.

[Pallas]

FEMA has now come and gone in Lanford. Let's say the same. Thank you! 

[ButterQueen]

On 5/22/2018 at 9:55 PM, Miss Ruth said:

I'm still wondering why Dan and Roseanne are now on opposite sides of their bed.

Maybe because Dan needed a place to put his cpap?

I love how Roseanne has the big fan attached to her bed.  Menopausal sweats are horrible.

[Nordly Beaumont]

7 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I thought that too, but if they advertise it as having the original body and it doesn't, they're selling it under false pretenses. I don't know how it works with eBay - presumably the buyer would demand a refund once they discovered they'd been duped. If Roseanne correctly advertised it as having a replacement body she probably wouldn't get more than the $100 the antiques dealer was offering. 

I'd want the guy to prove to me it was a replacement body. He could have just said that to low-ball them.

[SparklesBitch]

Finally got around to watching this episode, and I liked it! 

Darlene’s attempts at flirting at the casino cracked me up, as did her comment “I didn’t even flirt to have my kids!” 

I’m really enjoying the sisterly relationship between Darlene and Becky this season. As people upthread have said, I also think they’re much better for each other than Jackie and Roseanne are, at least currently. I like that they’re trying to help each other and nudge each other in the right direction.

Dan’s scene in the basement with Chuck, as well as his bashing the crowbar into the wall was so heartbreaking. Like others have said, I was half expecting Dan to keel over from a heart attack. 

I’m still not fond of Harris, but it was sweet to see her support Darlene and her writing. 

Nana Mary’s favorite hat made me all teary, but then Jackie’s “this is Magdalena’s diary!” killed me. So funny! And I can totally see Bev telling the girls that the doll was worth more than the two of them put together. 

This episode was depressing in a lot of places, but I like how they manage to inject humor in between. I especially liked Dan’s reply to Chuck mentioning the leak: “Leak? I think the basement holds water pretty good.” 

That’s how my family has always dealt with crappy situations, and my brothers and I inherited it.....so we all crack jokes like this and talk to each other the way Darlene and Becky do. :) For that reason, I loved Roseanne answering Dan’s question of where she was with “at the end of my rope, where are you?” Lol! Sounds exactly like the environment I grew up in. :) 

[methodwriter85]

7 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

They could bring back Ashley Johnson to be DJ's boss!

Wait, Chrissy Seaver was on the show? Was she uncredited? I can't find anything on her IMDB page.

Oh, okay, it looks like it just wasn't put on her IMDB. She'd actually be realistic to get back. I can see her playing a snotty boss or something. Her voice would be great for that.

[UYI]

12 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

Wait, Chrissy Seaver was on the show? Was she uncredited? I can't find anything on her IMDB page.

Oh, okay, it looks like it just wasn't put on her IMDB. She'd actually be realistic to get back. I can see her playing a snotty boss or something. Her voice would be great for that.

She had a guest appearance during season 7 as a girl named Lisa who DJ went to a dance with. She bossed him around like Roseanne does with Dan. 

[msrachelj]

On 5/23/2018 at 10:54 AM, BitterApple said:

When Dan made the comment about having three extra mouths to feed, I was like wtf, why is Darlene not getting food assistance? She's a low-income single mother. Even if she was only allotted a couple hundred bucks a month per person, that would take some of the load off. I actually think that would've made for great material since this season has been heavy on income inequality issues. Uppity "I'm too good for blue-collar Lanford" Darlene having to swallow her pride and go to social services for help. That would've been much more relevant than some of the more useless, non-sensical scenes they threw in for no reason (i.e., random shelter dog that seems to have magically disappeared).

Regarding Wellman, Chuck worked there, not AnneMarie.

where i am, to get food stamps i'm pretty sure they count every adult in the house's income. so she wouldn't be eligible .

[BitterApple]

11 minutes ago, msrachelj said:

where i am, to get food stamps i'm pretty sure they count every adult in the house's income. so she wouldn't be eligible .

Why wouldn't she if her parents are low-income enough to qualify?

[Ina123]

Someone, somewhere asked about Ann Marie. Sorry if I'm in the wrong place.

Ann Marie is introduced in Season 3, Episode 9, "Bird is the Word". Becky falsely takes credit for shooting the bird for the class picture and is suspended. Roseanne and other mothers whose children did the same thing meet in the principal's office. Ann Marie recognizes Roseanne from high school but Roseanne has to be reminded who she is. Turns out, on closer inspection, it's the hand of the guy beside Becky that is raising the finger. Becky took credit because everyone thought it was cool.

I've been watching old episodes and just caught this one.

[iMonrey]

Yes, I remember the first episode with Ann Marie and it was clear that while she and Roseanne knew each other in high school there were not close friends. There is no evidence that either Chuck or Dan knew each other prior to that episode either, so the four seemed to become friends afterwards. 

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Nana Mary’s favorite hat made me all teary

I was always sort of torn about "Nana Mary," because while I enjoyed Shelley Winters' portrayal, it also felt like a very gimmicky stunt cast. She was supposed to be Bev's mother, but the fact is that Shelley Winters was only seven years older than Estelle Parsons. It also didn't make much sense to me that someone that cool and laid-back would have raised someone who turned out to be like Bev.