Scarlett45 April 18, 2018 Share April 18, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, CoachWristletJen said: I was thinking about Schenee sitting there with the washcloth on her head. Now, I get that people come in all shapes and sizes, but you would think that a person who was 500 pounds overweight would be a little bit self-conscious about appearing naked on this show. However, not one of them appears to have any issue with it. In fact, most of them offer us additional nude scenes for which I'm sure they are not paid any extra. My question is WHERE IS THE MODESTY? Is a lack of modesty something that goes along with weighing 600+ pounds? Is it a byproduct of the narcissism? (Like, "I'm the center of the universe and every inch of me is magnificent." That type of thing.) They all talk about how much they hate their bodies, they can't stand to go out in public, etc. Yet, they seem to have no problem with putting themselves on display. (I think of James from Kentucky sprawled out with his genitals in full view when they were talking to the doctor. Thank goodness for pixillation! But, couldn't he at least ask for a towel or a sheet or something when they had a roomful of people, let alone the television cameras, and, you know, the rest of the world? Seriously, with the exception of Steven's brother, we have not encountered a single shy 600 pounder. Why is that a thing? Ummmm it’s probably multilayered. In mainstream western society the nudity of adults is associated with sexual intimacy. (For the most part) A lot of these people have been de-sexualized due to their obesity and depression. Also they require more daily care compared to the average adult so they have gotten used to non sexual intimates seeing them half clothed. I grew up surrounded by the elderly and the disabled (not due to anyone being morbidly obese though), so helping adult sized persons bathe, shower, toilet etc doesn’t phase me nor were any of my family members with full cognitive functioning embarrassed to need help when they were sick. However there is no way in this world they would’ve let a CAMERA CREW see them naked and then an tv audience. No just NO. Edited April 18, 2018 by Scarlett45 10 Link to comment
Colleenna April 19, 2018 Share April 19, 2018 On 4/11/2018 at 8:54 PM, CoachWristletJen said: Graduated at 16 = Kicked out of school at 16. Maybe she gadjiated middle school at 16. 8 Link to comment
dahling April 19, 2018 Share April 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Darknight said: Sadly, she will be another Robert It's not that sad. 10 Link to comment
Honey April 19, 2018 Share April 19, 2018 So she thinks that god will make her lose weight if he wants her to have the surgery, yet she gained weight. If I were a believer, I would have a real problem with the god I loved wanting me dead. Maybe she should just test the jumping off a building theory. Freddy can only wish. 9 Link to comment
Pretty5Vacant April 20, 2018 Share April 20, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 1:35 PM, Bunnygirl said: have it on the best authority that she has retained the law firm of Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe. ? The Three Stooges? 2 Link to comment
kokapetl April 20, 2018 Share April 20, 2018 On 17/04/2018 at 5:09 AM, flappa1016 said: Aw, hell no!! http://people.com/health/my-600-lb-life-crowdsourcing-money-weight-loss-surgery-after-quitting-show The dumbest part is that Dr Now would take her back for free. 1 Link to comment
SuzieQ April 20, 2018 Share April 20, 2018 Just watched this. WOW! WOW! WOW! Probably don't have anything to add that hasn't been said already, but this chick needs serious help! She is delusional and absolutely awful to her husband. Her education would be more impressive if she was even borderline literate. And what's with the bleach? ?? That shit will eat your skin! In her favor, she seems to be more mobile than others her size, but probably since she's still in her 20's. Most that heavy can't even walk. I get having faith but God isn't the one stuffing all that food down her throat! 5 Link to comment
mrsjoe April 20, 2018 Share April 20, 2018 Omg. The GoFundMe. Someone must have pointed out that she didn’t come across as knowleged on her first couple attempts and corrected it with upgrades such as punctuation. What I’ve been searching for is what she specifically is trying to say was inaccurate in the episode. Has anyone found this? First she says she didn’t eat the pizza, but they didn’t really lie about that. Dr. Now was giving his opinion she was lying and about 99% of viewers sided with him. It’s not a lie. And she says they glossed over her medical issues, but the episode showed even the issues she has must be controllable enough to allow for weight loss, since the hospital stay resulted in loss, so that doesn’t appear misrepresented or a lie. She also claims she was “dragged”to Houston, but I don’t see how volunteering for the show and moving is dragging anything. She also mentioned them leaving out her emotional issues, but I thought this was pretty covered in discussions of her traumatic abuse and recommending multiple times she needed therapy. So I guess I just wondered if she had stated what was a lie and inaccurate in the episode. Like, if she went to therapy and they stated she hadn’t, that’s one thing, but my suspicion is there is nothing she can point to like that. Unless of course she is saving all that for her “true story” she is using the gofundme for... 3 Link to comment
toodles April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 5 hours ago, SuzieQ said: Just watched this. WOW! WOW! WOW! Probably don't have anything to add that hasn't been said already, but this chick needs serious help! She is delusional and absolutely awful to her husband. Her education would be more impressive if she was even borderline literate. And what's with the bleach? ?? That shit will eat your skin! In her favor, she seems to be more mobile than others her size, but probably since she's still in her 20's. Most that heavy can't even walk. I get having faith but God isn't the one stuffing all that food down her throat! Well I read on another source that she and Freddy went for a walk a couple of days ago. After the walk they were going shopping for matching work out clothes. Does REI make work out clothes out of old tents? Where else would Schenee find work out clothes? I'm calling bs on the whole thing. 7 Link to comment
AZChristian April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 (edited) 59 minutes ago, toodles said: Well I read on another source that she and Freddy went for a walk a couple of days ago. After the walk they were going shopping for matching work out clothes. Does REI make work out clothes out of old tents? Where else would Schenee find work out clothes? I'm calling bs on the whole thing. If she puts that on her GFM entry, Twitney Thore's followers might kick in a couple of bucks because she'll officially be an inspiration. ETA. I just looked at her updated GFM request (with punctuation and correctly spelled words!). She said her episode had "heavy editing." Yeah. The editing wasn't the only heavy thing in that episode. Edited April 21, 2018 by AZChristian 12 Link to comment
gigiann April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 2 hours ago, toodles said: Well I read on another source that she and Freddy went for a walk a couple of days ago. After the walk they were going shopping for matching work out clothes. Does REI make work out clothes out of old tents? Where else would Schenee find work out clothes? I'm calling bs on the whole thing. No, but they carry full size canvass tents with awnings for them. And ya know Schenee, why are you screaming that Dr Now didn't provide care for your other problems that should have been taken care of and were overlooked. Holy Mother of God woman!!!!! You go to a dentist for your teeth, a podiatrist for your feet, an obgyn for your lady parts, orthopedist for skeletal issues, a gastrologist for your bile moving tract and you see a bariatric surgeon cause your TOO FUCKING FAT!!!!!!! What an unknowledged dolt. Sheeesshhhhhhhhhh 14 Link to comment
Trees April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 "A fool and his money are soon parted". Schenee and Freddy are certifiable morons. So are the dopes who gave their hard-earned money to her GoFundMe, which is now up to $220. They're probably all geniuses like her who would swear that - yes - God *would* reach his big hand down from the sky if they leapt off a tall building. They probably are cheering for her for that testimony. I wonder if this show will ever find another person as horrible as Schenee. Honestly, I hope not. Every patient is an addict living with an enabler. That's a consistent truth. Nobody gets to be that weight without addiction. But some of those people have the will to live and some of them are more intelligent than others. 4 Link to comment
Schnickelfritz April 23, 2018 Share April 23, 2018 On 4/21/2018 at 10:13 AM, Trees said: "A fool and his money are soon parted". Schenee and Freddy are certifiable morons. So are the dopes who gave their hard-earned money to her GoFundMe, which is now up to $220. They're probably all geniuses like her who would swear that - yes - God *would* reach his big hand down from the sky if they leapt off a tall building. They probably are cheering for her for that testimony. Just checking the numbers and at their current rate of "love offerings" ($15.71 per day), it will take 3182.68 days or 8.72 years to raise their goal. I'm pretty sure if they just made her stick to the diet, they could save the 50k in a year. 7 Link to comment
Darknight April 24, 2018 Share April 24, 2018 Just saw her twerking omg Penny is not number one anymore 4 Link to comment
CoachWristletJen April 24, 2018 Share April 24, 2018 16 hours ago, Schnickelfritz said: Just checking the numbers and at their current rate of "love offerings" ($15.71 per day), it will take 3182.68 days or 8.72 years to raise their goal. I'm pretty sure if they just made her stick to the diet, they could save the 50k in a year. I'll bet that money has already been converted into pizzas that have made their way down her gullet. 4 Link to comment
QuinnInND April 24, 2018 Share April 24, 2018 14 hours ago, Darknight said: Just saw her twerking omg Penny is not number one anymore Twerking???? Oh God! 1 Link to comment
CoachWristletJen April 24, 2018 Share April 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, QuinnInND said: Twerking???? Oh God! She could enter a twerking contest... of course they'd need a seismograph to measure the results. 11 Link to comment
Pretty5Vacant April 24, 2018 Share April 24, 2018 3 hours ago, CoachWristletJen said: She could enter a twerking contest... of course they'd need a seismograph to measure the results. She could of put that to good use with program but noooooo 1 Link to comment
toodles April 24, 2018 Share April 24, 2018 18 hours ago, Darknight said: Just saw her twerking omg Penny is not number one anymore Brain bleach, stat! 2 Link to comment
LookABird April 29, 2018 Share April 29, 2018 On 4/6/2018 at 9:28 AM, aliya said: No need to imagine. I read the entire article and realized I have been watching M6PL for too long. When I read, " A crematorium in Austria was gutted in 2012 when a 440-pound woman’s body blocked an air filter," I thought "440 pounds? That isn't very big." :) 13 Link to comment
AnnaBaptist May 10, 2018 Share May 10, 2018 Freddy has his own GoFundMe now. Wow, the comments are harsh. https://www.gofundme.com/freddy039s-sneaker-closet 5 Link to comment
leFay May 10, 2018 Share May 10, 2018 "we have found out some news" and now he's on there asking for Pampers for homeless people?... If she really is pregnant, Facebook gonna blow UP! 4 Link to comment
toodles May 12, 2018 Share May 12, 2018 On 5/10/2018 at 12:19 PM, AnnaBaptist said: Freddy has his own GoFundMe now. Wow, the comments are harsh. https://www.gofundme.com/freddy039s-sneaker-closet The gfm is gone. That is all. 3 Link to comment
PumpkinPK May 13, 2018 Share May 13, 2018 I rarely swear. But just from the first 10 min of this show, screw you Schenee for keeping your poor dog locked in a cage outside and not even acknowledging him when he is begging for attention and to be let out. Why does this bitch even have a dog? I hope someone in the area calls the Humane Society and saves that poor creature. Screw you too for getting behind the wheel in such useless physical condition. How does she even have a license. What a selfish and worthless person. Harm yourself, I couldn't care less. But don't inflict your garbage self on animals or innocent bystanders. Wow, I can't remember hating someone so much, so fast, on this show. 12 Link to comment
Colleenna May 14, 2018 Share May 14, 2018 On 4/24/2018 at 1:32 PM, CoachWristletJen said: She could enter a twerking contest... of course they'd need a seismograph to measure the results. Maybe that's what set off the small quake in Cali earlier this year.... 5 Link to comment
CoachWristletJen May 14, 2018 Share May 14, 2018 17 hours ago, PumpkinPK said: I rarely swear. But just from the first 10 min of this show, screw you Schenee for keeping your poor dog locked in a cage outside and not even acknowledging him when he is begging for attention and to be let out. Why does this bitch even have a dog? I hope someone in the area calls the Humane Society and saves that poor creature. Screw you too for getting behind the wheel in such useless physical condition. How does she even have a license. What a selfish and worthless person. Harm yourself, I couldn't care less. But don't inflict your garbage self on animals or innocent bystanders. Wow, I can't remember hating someone so much, so fast, on this show. The driving thing concerns me, too. I want everyone to drive, but not if they're a risk on the road. Some of the people can barely walk, and we're supposed to believe they have the energy to keep their feet on the gas pedal and the reaction time to slam their feet on the brakes. It's ghastly! Someone doesn't drive the same way at 700 pounds as they do at 400 pounds. I'm surprised that belly of hers didn't block her from turning the steering wheel in a timely and reasonable fashion... perhaps it did. 4 Link to comment
CoachWristletJen May 14, 2018 Share May 14, 2018 18 hours ago, Colleenna said: Maybe that's what set off the small quake in Cali earlier this year.... It shows how much she lies. The excessive weight makes her look so much older and it's easy to forget that she's still a very young woman, but she's all like, can't walk far, can't do this, can't do that, need my scooter to scoot and what have you, but then there she is twerking away... many of them can do a whole lot more than they let on. Penny could stand without all of that cacophonous grunting and hemming and hawing and face contorting. She could have worked with the physical therapist and started to do more. Dr. Now thought she could walk and he's probably right. Of course those legs may have atrophied by now. It's sad. 2 Link to comment
CatherineM May 14, 2018 Share May 14, 2018 There was a weight loss show in Discovery Health 15+ years ago where the guy had put so much stress on his steering wheel that it broke causing him to hit a pole because he couldn’t steer. 7 Link to comment
Tabbygirl521 May 15, 2018 Share May 15, 2018 7 hours ago, CatherineM said: There was a weight loss show in Discovery Health 15+ years ago where the guy had put so much stress on his steering wheel that it broke causing him to hit a pole because he couldn’t steer. Sign me up for that ride to Hell because my first reaction to this was to ALMOST snort. 4 Link to comment
Pretty5Vacant May 15, 2018 Share May 15, 2018 On 5/13/2018 at 3:25 PM, PumpkinPK said: Screw you too for getting behind the wheel in such useless physical condition. How does she even have a license. I'm curious now what she put in as her weight 3 Link to comment
Caoimhe May 15, 2018 Share May 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Pretty5Vacant said: I'm curious now what she put in as her weight This made me laugh remembering the look I got renewing my license one year. I hadn’t change the old weight, but was probably 50 pounds heavier at the time. Still they didn’t make a point of it so I didn’t change it. 2 Link to comment
Pretty5Vacant May 15, 2018 Share May 15, 2018 1 hour ago, ThereButFor said: This made me laugh remembering the look I got renewing my license one year. I hadn’t change the old weight, but was probably 50 pounds heavier at the time. Still they didn’t make a point of it so I didn’t change it. Lol! I think should I put my true weight or my "I wish weight"? My aunt shaved pounds, alot off of hers and added inches in height. If she was in an accident they wouldn't believe she was the same woman on the license. I'd love to see what these patients put on the weight part 3 Link to comment
Pretty5Vacant May 15, 2018 Share May 15, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 11:47 AM, LookABird said: I read the entire article and realized I have been watching M6PL for too long. When I read, " A crematorium in Austria was gutted in 2012 when a 440-pound woman’s body blocked an air filter," I thought "440 pounds? That isn't very big." :) Lol, that's almost considered svelt by these My 600 pound lifers 2 Link to comment
Colleenna May 15, 2018 Share May 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, Pretty5Vacant said: Dr. Now's patients would probably cause a giant grease fire from all the body fat. Prolly burn the place to the ground. 2 Link to comment
NeitherSparky May 19, 2018 Share May 19, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Darknight said: For those interested So for those who haven't clicked on this, it is an audio-only podcast of Schenee and Freddy being interviewed. I shut it off after about three and a half minutes when Schenee started going off about how everything happens because of God. I think it is a very entitled, lazy way to view life if you claim you are responsible for nothing and lay everything on God. I don't think I'll be listening to the rest of this podcast. Edited May 19, 2018 by NeitherSparky typo 3 Link to comment
abbey May 20, 2018 Share May 20, 2018 I probably listened to about 8 minutes of that before I had enough. Lots of blaming Dr. Now. She claims she didn't leave the show, he dismissed her as a patient after he claimed she was seeing another doctor. She claims she went to the other doctor because Dr. Now wasn't doing what he was supposed to about checking her blood (I think maybe she was on blood thinners, cannot remember exactly her voice and attitude was getting very annoying). She also complained about the hospital not feeding Freddy while she was in the hospital. She apparently thinks the hospital is responsible for not only feeding the patient but their family too. 8 Link to comment
toodles May 20, 2018 Share May 20, 2018 5 hours ago, abbey said: I probably listened to about 8 minutes of that before I had enough. Lots of blaming Dr. Now. She claims she didn't leave the show, he dismissed her as a patient after he claimed she was seeing another doctor. She claims she went to the other doctor because Dr. Now wasn't doing what he was supposed to about checking her blood (I think maybe she was on blood thinners, cannot remember exactly her voice and attitude was getting very annoying). She also complained about the hospital not feeding Freddy while she was in the hospital. She apparently thinks the hospital is responsible for not only feeding the patient but their family too. I gave up too. She can't keep her story straight from one minute to the next. When she started plugging her MLM weight loss drink, that was enough for me. Link to comment
CatherineM May 21, 2018 Share May 21, 2018 We should have a contest to see who can listen the longest. 9 Link to comment
auntjess May 21, 2018 Share May 21, 2018 9 hours ago, abbey said: She also complained about the hospital not feeding Freddy while she was in the hospital. They did this for one daughter, who was heavy too, and I was really surprised to see it. I'd guess the hospital has a cafeteria, where he could eat. 1 Link to comment
Schnickelfritz May 21, 2018 Share May 21, 2018 All right. I took one for the team. It only took 4 times to make it all the way thru that rambling mess but here are the highlights (or low lights if you will). I do not claim any of this as fact but only what bologna Schenee and Freddy put forth. Take it for what it is... Schenee is in the process of the process of losing weight Another doctor told her that she wouldn't be ready for surgery for a couple of years She "did not never leave the show" Dr. Now threw her off of the show because she wanted a primary care doctor When they got to Houston they were shocked that there was not an apartment waiting for them. While looking, one landlord threw the camera crew out and warned them that they shouldn't get involved with the show. The show paid the first month's rent but they had to pay after that.($1050 per month) Her first 30 day follow up was really filmed 3 days after the initial visit. Claims she didn't get paid and she knows several others who were not paid by the show. Everybody has a food addiction. There has never been a Christian Christian that has not never done nothin' wrong Production wanted them to do bad things for the ratings. They changed their eating habits a year before the show. They ordered the pizza before Schenee was seen at the hospital and Freddy ate on it for 4 days because the hospital wouldn't feed him. Cameras in every room and they have no video of her eating it. Bleach argument was all a production set up TLC was banned from their property by management Freddie (after speaking about not knowing cyber bullies from a can of paint) claimed Dr. Now was a bully and a liar and Schenee lost weight every time Filming was only from the end of March thru April. She was not in the hospital for 30 days but only for 5 days and lost 31 pounds of water weight. She survived Necrotizing Fasciitis which makes her subject to gaining water weight. She can't have children right now because of the meds she is taking for Endometriosis - not because of her weight. She hawked some weight loss supplement. She's all water and not fat. Her GoFundMe was not for weight loss surgery OR to tell her truth, but rather to raise money to help poor fat people lose weight because losing weight takes money. They tried to shill Freddy's GoFundMe. Seemed to have been recorded before his was deleted. They gave a shout out to a singer, Bobby someone. Couldn't make out his last name. They were in the wrong place at the right time during Hurricane Harvey. She is lucky because Freddy "wipe her behind" and she's not in a nursing home. And haters don't pay any of their bills. 16 Link to comment
aliya May 21, 2018 Share May 21, 2018 12 hours ago, Schnickelfritz said: And haters don't pay any of their bills. I'm pretty sure Shanaynay doesn't pay of her bills, either. She's what, 600 lbs of water weight?? Miss Education doesn't know much about physiology. The hospital wouldn't give Freddy any food? WTH? There are cafeterias in hospitals. Vending machines. I'm pretty sure he could have made a sandwich and brought a bottle of water from home if couldn't afford the cafeteria (which is usually subsidized in some way and pretty cheap). I don't know how big the hospital is that they use in Houston, but my uni's hospital has minimum of 3 real cafeterias plus a number of coffee stands with humus, fruit, pastries, etc. Lying liars who lie, that's what they both are. It's a mindset to think that everything is going to be paid for you. Pay for it your damned self, like the rest of us. We have the audio of her phone call with Dr. Now. We know exactly who she is and what she's about. 11 Link to comment
configdotsys May 21, 2018 Share May 21, 2018 On 5/20/2018 at 1:55 PM, abbey said: She also complained about the hospital not feeding Freddy while she was in the hospital. So that's why the poor fellow had to bring in pizza and cheeseburgers. But he didn't share them. No way. No how. 4 Link to comment
Tabbygirl521 May 22, 2018 Share May 22, 2018 (edited) On 5/19/2018 at 12:37 PM, NeitherSparky said: So for those who haven't clicked on this, it is an audio-only podcast of Schenee and Freddy being interviewed. I shut it off after about three and a half minutes when Schenee started going off about how everything happens because of God. I think it is a very entitled, lazy way to view life if you claim you are responsible for nothing and lay everything on God. I don't think I'll be listening to the rest of this podcast. Apparently God hates those two... Schnicklefritz, I am dying laughing!! Edited May 22, 2018 by Tabbygirl521 3 Link to comment
Pretty5Vacant May 23, 2018 Share May 23, 2018 On 5/20/2018 at 6:50 PM, CatherineM said: We should have a contest to see who can listen the longest. Lol! That's pretty funny Link to comment
Darknight May 24, 2018 Share May 24, 2018 On 5/20/2018 at 11:41 PM, Schnickelfritz said: All right. I took one for the team. It only took 4 times to make it all the way thru that rambling mess but here are the highlights (or low lights if you will). I do not claim any of this as fact but only what bologna Schenee and Freddy put forth. Take it for what it is... Schenee is in the process of the process of losing weight Another doctor told her that she wouldn't be ready for surgery for a couple of years She "did not never leave the show" Dr. Now threw her off of the show because she wanted a primary care doctor When they got to Houston they were shocked that there was not an apartment waiting for them. While looking, one landlord threw the camera crew out and warned them that they shouldn't get involved with the show. The show paid the first month's rent but they had to pay after that.($1050 per month) Her first 30 day follow up was really filmed 3 days after the initial visit. Claims she didn't get paid and she knows several others who were not paid by the show. Everybody has a food addiction. There has never been a Christian Christian that has not never done nothin' wrong Production wanted them to do bad things for the ratings. They changed their eating habits a year before the show. They ordered the pizza before Schenee was seen at the hospital and Freddy ate on it for 4 days because the hospital wouldn't feed him. Cameras in every room and they have no video of her eating it. Bleach argument was all a production set up TLC was banned from their property by management Freddie (after speaking about not knowing cyber bullies from a can of paint) claimed Dr. Now was a bully and a liar and Schenee lost weight every time Filming was only from the end of March thru April. She was not in the hospital for 30 days but only for 5 days and lost 31 pounds of water weight. She survived Necrotizing Fasciitis which makes her subject to gaining water weight. She can't have children right now because of the meds she is taking for Endometriosis - not because of her weight. She hawked some weight loss supplement. She's all water and not fat. Her GoFundMe was not for weight loss surgery OR to tell her truth, but rather to raise money to help poor fat people lose weight because losing weight takes money. They tried to shill Freddy's GoFundMe. Seemed to have been recorded before his was deleted. They gave a shout out to a singer, Bobby someone. Couldn't make out his last name. They were in the wrong place at the right time during Hurricane Harvey. She is lucky because Freddy "wipe her behind" and she's not in a nursing home. And haters don't pay any of their bills. Thanks I only watched one minute Link to comment
AZChristian May 24, 2018 Share May 24, 2018 I seem to remember that in one hospital where a family member of mine was taken, meals were available for visitors. I'm sure there was a charge, but we never used the service, so I can't say for sure. I prefer to go to the cafeteria to get a break. I would more likely believe that in a case where a patient is there due to obesity-related issues, they don't want to make it easier for extra food to be available to the patient, so they don't encourage that process by serving extra food to others in the room. Really . . . do you think Freddy would have had a bite of his "hospital meal" if they had brought it to him? I wonder how long the pizza / carry-in shenanigans went on before Dr. Now stepped in. 4 Link to comment
Kaia40 May 24, 2018 Share May 24, 2018 On 5/21/2018 at 7:34 PM, configdotsys said: She also complained about the hospital not feeding Freddy while she was in the hospital. Haha! Maybe Freddy should go out and get a JOB while her fat ass is in the hospital. Then they won’t have to worry about feeding Freddy while he sits at the hospital day and night on his lazy ass with her lazy ass! 5 Link to comment
Colleenna May 29, 2018 Share May 29, 2018 I have nominated this epi for a Previouslie under "Worst episode of a non-competitive reality show. " 8 Link to comment
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