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I have to admit that made me laugh a little. My father broke his wrist once and the cast drove him crazy. He only lasted a couple of days and then:  "I went and got my Sawz-all and cut the goddamn thing off". It was totally metal and just like him!

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29 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

Why on earth did they allow Dr. Butch Baltierra, Junkie MD, to take the kid’s casts off with power tools?!  What fucking idiots. 

And they responsibly televised it! Don't feel like going to the doctor, just take your own cast off...

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34 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

I have to admit that made me laugh a little. My father broke his wrist once and the cast drove him crazy. So "I went and got my Sawz-all and cut the goddamn thing off". It was totally metal and just like him!

LOL

I assume you were not a crackhead, like Butch, when you did it, right?

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12 hours ago, alexa said:

or get pregnant, and have to be prepared to care for a baby that requires far more care than Leah (even without Gary in the picture).

I am thinking she'll have Leah take care of the baby!!!

11 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Except as soon as they got to their rental in Hawaii, she took one look at the couch and proclaimed she'd be sleeping there. 

Speaking of, does anyone watch Sister Wives? I swear the house they're staying in looked like the one the Browns stayed in when they went to Hawaii.

Yea, she did. She said it real fast, almost like she was just joking. Half joking. Because you know off camera they've probably discussed it for real. 

I don't think Gary will let that happen.  Don't need to do that.  They are in full charge of Leah and Amber remains their money tree!  Gary is very wise with finances.  He adores that support check every month!

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No crackheads here but my ex father-in-law cut my stepson's full body cast off because he wouldn't quit picking and peeling it apart.  To be fair, it was time to come off and the poor kid was sick of pooping standing up.  His "mother" refused to take him to get it off so Papa did it for him.  Sounds crazy, I know, but it was a relief for many of us.  Years earlier, the boy had shattered his elbow and his mother was not in the picture so I was able to handle everything.  Papa wanted to cut that cast off but I put a stop to that because of all the pins holding the bones fragments together to heal needed to be removed, as well.  Thankfully he agreed it was best to let the doctor handle that one.  

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6 hours ago, mamadrama said:

I get it when they are big teams. I live in KY where UK basketball reins supreme. On game day, half the state wears blue and white and claims to "bleed blue." (The other half supports Louisville.) It is very much a cultural thing. My kids' schools even have UK day where they're meant to wear their sports attire. The local cinemas broadcast the games. It is a big deal.

 

Of course, when you live in a state that's mostly known for its stereotypes, we'll take whatever opportunity we can to cling to something that makes us enviable. And UK is a good team. I admit it, I have more UK attire than I have from the other 3 universities I have degrees from.

I humbly disagree. A lot of us up in Northern Kentucky can leave both teams and follow UC!  

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I can’t stand Amber. I think she’s up there with Jenelle  in being one of the worst moms on the teen Mom franchise. She has time to go on vacation with her new creepy boyfriend to Hawaii but has no time to see her daughter. I also read somewhere that she dissed Kristina on Twitter. She should be thanking her for being there for Leah. 

Catelynn really needs to think about getting healthy before she even tries to have another baby. She’s gained a lot of weight, smokes and has mental health issues she needs to take care of as well. 

Farrah’s scenes seem boring to me lately and I find myself not paying attention.

I was cringing watching the video of Ryan and mac’s wedding. 

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6 hours ago, gunderda said:

with her hair you just can't. You can't do anything.  My friend has the same (and is also a redhead).  It's too thin and fine.  She either wears is down parted in the middle or 90% of the time she has it up in pony tail.  I think someone said Maci at least does extensions. 

Back in the day, we would get a “body wave,” aka perm for that hair. 

9 hours ago, CofCinci said:

It’s clear that something is going on with Sophia. I wish they’d be honest about the child’s struggle.  When you come her to Bentley or Leah, wow. She’s like 4 years behind them. 

Sophia is NOT a normal child. I do not say this to be mean but she is creepy. The “feral” description fits. 

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3 hours ago, MissMel said:

No crackheads here but my ex father-in-law cut my stepson's full body cast off because he wouldn't quit picking and peeling it apart.  To be fair, it was time to come off and the poor kid was sick of pooping standing up.  His "mother" refused to take him to get it off so Papa did it for him.  Sounds crazy, I know, but it was a relief for many of us.  Years earlier, the boy had shattered his elbow and his mother was not in the picture so I was able to handle everything.  Papa wanted to cut that cast off but I put a stop to that because of all the pins holding the bones fragments together to heal needed to be removed, as well.  Thankfully he agreed it was best to let the doctor handle that one.  

That reads like it was a dire situation with the parent refusing to taking that poor child to get the cast off. 

What happened on last night's show wasn't a situation where no one was able to take that kid to the doctor. They all have cars, I am sure of that. Even C&T have five vehicles. No excuse for any of those adults to not have been able to take that boy to the doctor to have that cast removed and make sure everything was fine. 

I had a friend who had their cast removed at the doctor's office thousands of years ago. They did an x-ray because there seemed to be an issue. Sure enough, that cast needed to be put back on. 

2 hours ago, FlowerofCarnage said:

I think real story behind Nova's conception involved Porn hub, a cup and a turkey baster.

That might happen for the next pregnancy. 

I like @Brooklynista's version of what she thinks happened when Nova was conceived. Cate waited for Tyler to pass out and then she jumped on him. 

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5 hours ago, bounnatalie said:

That was an ugly moment with Mackenzie when asked about whether Maci was invited to the wedding. I wasn't getting the edit of the sadness surrounding their first wedding. That was your choice.

I thought it was as ugly when Larry told the cameras (and was totally wrong!) that "Maci and Taylor" were invited to the wedding.

He said it with such insistence and the same righteous indignation he had in his voice when he professed that "someday the world will really know the truth about Maci."

I suspect he is as confused/wrong about "the truth about Maci" as he clearly was about the wedding invitation.

Mimi Jen looked so sad during the Mean Girls moment. We all know she watches what she says and does on camera, and probably does even when they aren't filming. She looked so uncomfortable there, almost as if she was acting the part of hating Maci to please Mackenzie. 

Did Mac choose her rental friends because they are heavier than her so she feels good about herself? Mac isn't overweight by any means, but she strikes me as being shallow enough to want to be the smallest one in the room when sitting in a group of "friends." 

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12 minutes ago, Bridget said:

Mimi Jen looked so sad during the Mean Girls moment. We all know she watches what she says and does on camera, and probably does even when they aren't filming. She looked so uncomfortable there, almost as if she was acting the part of hating Maci to please Mackenzie. 

She really did. I felt bad for her. It is like she is expected to take sides and I think she has always liked Maci. Larry has been the one with really harsh words about Maci. I know Jen worries about losing even more access to Bentley, too.

I do not think she is a fan of Mac or this wedding. The last thing a druggie should be contemplating is more kids. Ryan has NEVER been a true father to Bentley.

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9 hours ago, Booger666 said:

Do we know when the episode was filmed and when the Ryan and Mac wedding was?  I realize Bentley’s visitation has been up in the air bc of Ryan’s drug use, but it seems odd they scheduled their wedding without resolving visitation for the wedding weekend.  Even if Ryan dropped the ball as usual I would think Jen would be all over talking to Maci so that they could have Bentley there for all of the pics.

Didn't you heeaar? Bentley was invited to the wedding! Yes, the groom's minor son required an invitation. Sad.

Larry said the wedding would happen Nov 18, "the happiest day of Ryan's life." Did anyone notice if Ryan made a snarky look toward the camera when Larry uttered that phrase?

5 hours ago, Cherry Cola said:

 I did laugh at Debz saying welcome to the hotel guy when he said it to her. 

A few years ago someone hugged me and said "happy birthday" to me and I said it back. Doh!

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2 minutes ago, lilmarysunshine said:

She really did. I felt bad for her. It is like she is expected to take sides and I think she has always liked Maci. Larry has been the one with really harsh words about Maci. I know Jen worries about losing even more access to Bentley, too.

I do not think she is a fan of Mac or this wedding. The last thing a druggie should be contemplating is more kids. Ryan has NEVER been a true father to Bentley.

Jen now has three cuckoos against Maci. It has to be hard for her to have to sit there and listen to all three of them talk shit about Maci and Tyler. If she dares to speak up, one of them, usually Larry or Ryan, will say something to her that makes her feel bad for speaking up in the first place. They shut her down. With Mack adding to the pile-up, it is one more person for Jen to have to deal with and more shit for her to have to listen to. 

I thought Ryan said in another episode that Bentley was going to be his best man. Am I mistaken? 

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Where to start with this shitshow....

 

I agree with everyone, Rhine does not seem sober. I wonder though if he is on methodone now. I’ve watched my fair share of Intervention so I know people can get high on it. Maybe he’s taking more than he’s supposed to and mixing it with alcohol (he oftentimes has a beer in hand). I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s just back on H again though. 

Mackenzie is terrible. Everything she does at this point bugs the crap out of me. I see a divorce between her and Rhine happening very soon.

I can sort of believe Cate weighing 189. I’m also 5’1 and weigh 138 right now. I’m borderline overweight. I could definitely stand to lose 10-15 lbs to look & feel healthier. She weighs 50 lbs more than me. I would feel like complete shit at her weight and I would definitely not look healthy. She also has those huge boobs that make her look even bigger. She really needs to stop smoking and start working out and eating better. They have the money where she could have a personal trainer & nutritionist. Take advantage of that if that’s what gets it done! 

Amber is such a terrible human being. It makes me sick that she’s pregnant right now. Leah seems like such a sweet kid right now, I really hope Amber’s BS doesn’t mess her up. I have hope though because Gary & Kristina seem like they are doing a great job of parenting her. 

I’m so bored with Farrah. Deb is insane and whoever said she might have Botox poisoning is on to something. 

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I can sort of believe Cate weighing 189.

I was expecting to hear the doctor say Cate weighed at least 210 pounds. Her tits alone look like they weigh 50 pounds. 

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6 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

I was expecting to hear the doctor say Cate weighed at least 210 pounds. Her tits alone look like they weigh 50 pounds. 

I am with you!

I still don't believe she's under 200lbs. I see people built like her every day and I know how much they really do weigh (from their annual PE class weigh ins for state testing).

For the record, It's not illegal for me to access the info;  it's on their profile just the same as if I were searching for a kid's current grades.

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Well, That was a heartracing kinda episode. Where to start...

Oh, I’m usually a terrific judge of people and I can say with great certainty that Jen loves Maci like a daughter (she knows she wasn’t a good match for Ryan, due to Ryan’s faults) and could TELL that she looked like a turtle looking for its shell during that cackling scene about Maci. She didn’t want any part of that and Mackenzie could feel it. Which makes Mackenzie hate maci even MORE knowing the new mom in-law loves the “baby momma”.

Amber is a lying liar that lies!!! How staged was that scene where they’re talking about how she never gets sick like that only when pregnant with Leah. Her producers are real dicks for showing happiness for this shit show. A baby is now involved in her delusional life. Leah has Gary and Kristina, this baby will only have sleeping nonbeauty and the unabomber to take care of him. Pfft.

Oh don’t you worry Amber, you can use postpartum depression as your next reason for skipping out on this baby (I take postpartum very seriously but I see Amber milking it...) ...but who will take all of the Instagram photos? Hearing her say “I need time to relax so we’re going to Hawaii!”

Relax from what??? Your vacation to the boot camp house? Vegas? Puerto Rico? As they zoom in on Gary and Kristina, real parents, feeding chickens looking like they don’t get more than two hours a week to watch a movie on netflix without having to have close captioning on in order to see what’s going on in the movie (with three kids in the house my husband and I always click “CC” otherwise the kids laughter from playing makes it hard to hear any program) that could really use the time to RELAX from real life!!!!!!!

She’s got to see how she comes across?!?! They all do?? Knowing they all don’t work and some don’t parent their kids, they have got to know how annoying they sound when they complain about stress or needing a vacation?!?!? 

Ugh.

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Mackenzie really did come off terrible in this episode.... for all the hype she puts on her social media of being such a great person, lol, her actions in real life speak otherwise.  If you can't tame it for mtv cameras, then we know you suck even worse in real, real life.  I did feel really bad for Ryan's mom in that mean girls moment.  Very awkward and she was clearly very sad.  I know she knows in her heart that Maci has taken great care of Bentley and she can't totally hate on her.  After all, she has a normal husband, they live in their own house, and she has 2 other kids that seem to be taken care of.

I thought that Sophia actually seemed somewhat normal in this episode...esp with Michael.  She was talking and joking around in a way that was more normal...I think she is just put in so many uncomfortable situations that she doesn't know how to act anymore.  I thought Deb was just stupid to ruin the dinner with Farrah by mentioning Simon.  I know she was mad about the David comment, but she didn't help matters by starting a fight.  I think Farrah is trying really hard to block those moments, and tries not to let them get out of hand.  I know she isn't perfect, but she tries hard to stop it, even if she doesn't sound nice by saying "stop talking".  

Catelynn would just be stupid to have a baby while she is obese.  She will only weigh more after, and good luck losing all of that weight.  Plus, I actually like Tyler this episode, esp about the smoking.  They keep showing him working (on the house, etc) while Catelynn does nothing, and I had no idea that he had quit smoking, etc, and lived up to a pact.  

Amber, well, no surprises.  She sucks, and I feel so sorry for her baby, and I have no idea how she thinks she can handle it if she can't handle see Leah.

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1 hour ago, alexa said:

 Plus, I actually like Tyler this episode, esp about the smoking.  They keep showing him working (on the house, etc) while Catelynn does nothing, and I had no idea that he had quit smoking, etc, and lived up to a pact.  

It really seemed like MTV was trying to embarrass Catelynn. They showed her smoking constantly. They zoomed in on her fatty food. They revealed her weight. They showed her dirt-crusted minivan. Meanwhile, Tyler was working, playing with Carly, and talking about how he managed to quit smoking.

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2 minutes ago, Blissfool said:

It really seemed like MTV was trying to embarrass Catelynn. They showed her smoking constantly. They zoomed in on her fatty food. They revealed her weight. They showed her dirt-crusted minivan. Meanwhile, Tyler was working, playing with Carly, and talking about how he managed to quit smoking.

They also zoomed in on her large adult cuff for her blood pressure reading!  omg!  mtv knows how to play around :-)

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4 minutes ago, alexa said:
7 minutes ago, Blissfool said:

It really seemed like MTV was trying to embarrass Catelynn. They showed her smoking constantly. They zoomed in on her fatty food. They revealed her weight. They showed her dirt-crusted minivan. Meanwhile, Tyler was working, playing with Carly, and talking about how he managed to quit smoking.

They also zoomed in on her large adult cuff for her blood pressure reading!  omg!  mtv knows how to play around :-)

And let's not forget the bloated belly shot of Catelynn's stomach hanging over her seat belt while driving for her appointment.

I can't help thinking that Catelynn has royally pissed off somebody, somewhere at MTV.  I always used to think she was a sweet girl....a lot misguided and a little prolo. But after this last episode, I felt like I needed to tale a shower and eat some kale after watching her. She is careening into nasty way too fast for someone that young and with so many resources available to her. Yuck. Just yuck.

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16 hours ago, CofCinci said:

Why on earth did they allow Dr. Butch Baltierra, Junkie MD, to take the kid’s casts off with power tools?!  What fucking idiots. 

That made me cringe... I might be ok with it if it were a consenting adult because they can take themselves right back to the doctor if it's not completely healed.... but a kid?? He could have just stepped on something wrong immediately out of the cast and screwed it up. 

 

Speaking of Cate getting a bad edit - I'm surprised no one has commented about turning Farrah into the devil in 'cartoon drawing' before one of the commercials lol 

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18 minutes ago, gunderda said:

Speaking of Cate getting a bad edit - I'm surprised no one has commented about turning Farrah into the devil in 'cartoon drawing' before one of the commercials lol 

I literally laughed out loud at that! 

Also, I think it's cute when Debz unintentionally embarrasses Farrah and Farrah reacts like any daughter would....at the cooking lesson when Debz started talking about her fiance making gnocchi and when Debz waved at the cute guy on the balcony. Farrah is all "Omigod, mom, so embarrassing."

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I really hated Mac during that mean girls moment. Why was Larry so insistent that both Maci and Taylor were invited? Was he lying to the producer or does he actually think they were both invited?

I'm planning a trip to Italy this year so I was just looking at the scenery and ignoring Farrah and her crazy clan. 

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13 hours ago, lilmarysunshine said:

 

Sophia is NOT a normal child. I do not say this to be mean but she is creepy. The “feral” description fits. 

This is because of who she grew up around. It doesn't surprise me that she has psychological issues.

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32 minutes ago, AirQuotes said:

Amber is Gary's money tree?   How so?

He adores what support check every month?  Amber is over $10,000 behind in child support.

Maybe because Gary gets MTV money because of Amber.

Although I have no idea how much Gary gets paid by MTV. Does he have another job?

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Just now, Blissfool said:

Maybe because Gary gets MTV money because of Amber.

Although I have no idea how much Gary gets paid by MTV. Does he have another job?

Well, he certainly should be getting something from or via  Amber. He sure as hell isn't getting any parenting support or child support from that deadbeat reprobate. As far as I'm concerned, good on Gary for shaking whatever legit money tree he can to support his daughter. 

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20 minutes ago, Chickabiddy said:

Well, he certainly should be getting something from or via  Amber. He sure as hell isn't getting any parenting support or child support from that deadbeat reprobate. As far as I'm concerned, good on Gary for shaking whatever legit money tree he can to support his daughter. 

Agreed.  And I hope Amber doesn't think she had Leah by some immaculate conception.  I'm fairly certain Gary was in the room.  So in that same vein, SHE gets MTV money because of Gary.

1 minute ago, AirQuotes said:

I don't see how the TM dads get money because of the moms.  It takes two to tango, and for there to be a mom there has to be a dad.   I can see the various boyfriends as being paid only because of the mom but not the dads.  I guess it is just a matter of perspective.

JINX!

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2 minutes ago, Brooklynista said:

Agreed.  And I hope Amber doesn't think she had Leah by some immaculate conception.  I'm fairly certain Gary was in the room.  So in that same vein, SHE gets MTV money because of Gary.

JINX!

You said it better than me.  

Gary is an original dad, therefore, he has been a part of this farce as long as Amber.    It goes for all the original dads.

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37 minutes ago, Chickabiddy said:

Well, he certainly should be getting something from or via  Amber. He sure as hell isn't getting any parenting support or child support from that deadbeat reprobate. As far as I'm concerned, good on Gary for shaking whatever legit money tree he can to support his daughter. 

"Deadbeat Reprobate" should be her thread title...

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1 hour ago, Blissfool said:

Maybe because Gary gets MTV money because of Amber.

Although I have no idea how much Gary gets paid by MTV. Does he have another job?

Here I go again.

Gary owns several rental homes.

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59 minutes ago, AirQuotes said:

I don't see how the TM dads get money because of the moms.  It takes two to tango, and for there to be a mom there has to be a dad.   I can see the various boyfriends as being paid only because of the mom but not the dads.  I guess it is just a matter of perspective.

I'm not trying to be Team Amber by any means, but the show is primarily about the moms. I agree that some of the dads are a very big part of the show. I think it's funny when the chyron says "Catelynn's husband" underneath his Tyler's name. Not sure if they do the same with Gary; label him "Amber' s ex."

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2 hours ago, AirQuotes said:

Amber is Gary's money tree?   How so?

He adores what support check every month?  Amber is over $10,000 behind in child support.

Yes but he'll get it.  He always does or she would owe much more!  

Amber just hit a little bump in the road with Matt stealing her money!

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On 1/16/2018 at 9:48 AM, WhosThatGirl said:

Yeah.. I mean Farrah is Farrah but she goes on vacations with her daughter. Where as all the other moms on this version of this show go on vacations WITHOUT their kids.

I don't know...it might be better for Sophia not to go on a vacation where Farrah invites both of her divorced parents to a small town but doesn't tell one of them that the other will be there.  And fights, as usual, with with mother. 

That was a charming place and I'd love to go there, but I think I'd opt out if being part of all that was required.

 

14 hours ago, Bridget said:

I thought it was as ugly when Larry told the cameras (and was totally wrong!) that "Maci and Taylor" were invited to the wedding.

He said it with such insistence and the same righteous indignation he had in his voice when he professed that "someday the world will really know the truth about Maci."

I suspect he is as confused/wrong about "the truth about Maci" as he clearly was about the wedding invitation.

I didn't understand what was going on there.  Larry was insistent that Taylor was invited, but was wrong?  So they'd had discussions about it and he thought Taylor was going to be invited, and then Mac changed her mind and didn't tell him?  Or maybe he assumed Taylor was invited because of course he'd be invited, but his reaction seemed a little bit more than that.

 

2 hours ago, Blissfool said:

Also, I think it's cute when Debz unintentionally embarrasses Farrah and Farrah reacts like any daughter would....at the cooking lesson when Debz started talking about her fiance making gnocchi and when Debz waved at the cute guy on the balcony. Farrah is all "Omigod, mom, so embarrassing."

That part with the guy on the balcony reminded me of the scene in Lady Bird where they're pawing through the rack at Thrift Town arguing, and then spot a pretty dress.

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41 minutes ago, Blissfool said:

I'm not trying to be Team Amber by any means, but the show is primarily about the moms. I agree that some of the dads are a very big part of the show. I think it's funny when the chyron says "Catelynn's husband" underneath his Tyler's name. Not sure if they do the same with Gary; label him "Amber' s ex."

This series stopped being about the Teen Moms a half-decade ago. 

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22 hours ago, Marisagf said:

I was pleased to see real medical professional on this show for once.  And I don't mean Doctor Butch removing a cast with a chainsaw!

Yes, it was nice that Cate had her IUD professionally removed, instead of yanked out in the bathroom at home, like some of these morons have done. 

 

22 hours ago, Bridget said:

I also wanted to smack the shit eating smiles off of their faces before A took the test. They KNEW she was pregnant. So awkward to watch those scenes. I had complete second hand embarrassment for them.

"Ooooh, I'm so sick. I don't know why I feel so sick. Whatever could it be? It must have been something I ate". 

*exchanges knowing glances with NuMatt* 

Bitch, we ain't dumb. 

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20 hours ago, CofCinci said:

Why on earth did they allow Dr. Butch Baltierra, Junkie MD, to take the kid’s casts off with power tools?!  What fucking idiots. 

That cast was already falling apart before Butch started hacking into it. No, it wasn't safe what he did. But it seemed as though Tyler's sister wasn't following up with his care, and that cast was long overdue for coming off. 

 

15 hours ago, Bridget said:

Did Mac choose her rental friends because they are heavier than her so she feels good about herself? Mac isn't overweight by any means, but she strikes me as being shallow enough to want to be the smallest one in the room when sitting in a group of "friends." 

I had the same thought, but felt really evil thinking that. I'm glad someone else said it! 

 

14 hours ago, fetching said:

Amber on the pool noodle floating around in the ocean was truly a sight. 

I get that people have their comfort zones and I hate when others try to push them out of it. But damn, you're afforded all these amazing opportunities. Live life a little! Get off the fucking noodle and scuba for REAL! 

 

2 hours ago, AirQuotes said:

I don't see how the TM dads get money because of the moms.  It takes two to tango, and for there to be a mom there has to be a dad.   I can see the various boyfriends as being paid only because of the mom but not the dads.  I guess it is just a matter of perspective.

No, I fully agree with you. This is why Amber's righteousness towards Gary pisses me off. Yes, the show is called "Teen Mom", but they're BOTH parents. It took both of them to get pregnant. Amber wouldn't be on the show without Gary's sperm. Sorrynotsorry. 

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Um, I'd like to see a little more of Madison, Ryan's cousin.  Damn!!!  Where has he been all these years?

Debra and Farrah had a reasonably enjoyable day, yet at dinner Juice Newton decides to bring up Simon?  Why would she stir the gnocchi pot like that? 

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