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Following tonight’s episode is a show called Crack Addicts. It’s about a chiropractor.  I’m not wild about that kind of thing, but I am curious.  It looks really interesting.  

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I don't understand why Dr Lee is still greeting patients for an initial exam meeting under a tent in the parking lot. Plus, they are putting on masks outside. Weird. Is it a California thing? Maybe a state directive?

Most medical offices here in Georgia no longer require masks inside.

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During the segment with the guy who had a severe case of eczema on his hands, I was screaming at the TV, "Get some Aquaphor!" I have eczema between my fingers and it is very itchy and painful when it cracks open. I slather some Aquaphor on my hands and cover them with cotton socks and when I wake up, the affected areas are much less itchy and dry. I've always had problems with eczema on my hands -- particularly in the winter time. But during the pandemic it got so much worse because of all the hand washing. I've always been a stickler about keeping my hands clean, and I'm so neurotic about it now, I wash my hands at least 20 times a day. 

It's really too bad that the guy with all the cysts on his back couldn't stick around to have more of those giant blackheads extracted. Those looked gnarly! 

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18 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Following tonight’s episode is a show called Crack Addicts. It’s about a chiropractor.  I’m not wild about that kind of thing, but I am curious.  It looks really interesting.  

I liked it!  I know chiropractors arent't held in very high esteem, but these people seemed to get what they needed, and seemed a lot better.
There are 2 more episodes scheduled, and I've got them set to record.
I'll request a forum if it seems like more than just 3 episodes.

 

 

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1 hour ago, auntjess said:

I liked it!  I know chiropractors arent't held in very high esteem, but these people seemed to get what they needed, and seemed a lot better.
There are 2 more episodes scheduled, and I've got them set to record.
I'll request a forum if it seems like more than just 3 episodes.

I liked it too, but see no reason to watch further.  I worked for a large car dealership and the owner went to a local, well respected chiropractor--who caused some damage AND who was trying to oversell other stuff.  He refused to pay.  The chiropractor took him to court...with his beautiful VERY pregnant wife representing the practice.  What I learned there is that (this was in the 80s) most sole-practiotioner chiropractors had x-ray units in their office...of very poor quality.

The x-rays won the case for my boss.  From then on I've been wary and haven't had the guts (or the reasons) to see a chiropractor.  I do object to their claims to cure cancer and other maladies...and the necessity to sell vitamins and other "nutritional" items.

4 hours ago, mmecorday said:

It's really too bad that the guy with all the cysts on his back couldn't stick around to have more of those giant blackheads extracted. Those looked gnarly! 

AND...during the introduction we learned he had cysts on his chest.  I expected Dr. Lee to mention that she would be seeing him again.  Maybe his health and physical condition wasn't up to her requirements.

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1 hour ago, auntjess said:

I liked it!  I know chiropractors arent't held in very high esteem, but these people seemed to get what they needed, and seemed a lot better.
There are 2 more episodes scheduled, and I've got them set to record.
I'll request a forum if it seems like more than just 3 episodes.

 

 

I am suspect of the chiropractor patients.  Something seemed a little fake to me, although I did have recovery from pain once from an acupuncturist.  (He used healing touch and acupuncture. Fixed my back and foot pain in 1 hour!) I’ll watch more though.  It was entertaining.  That tooter! Lol.  The neck pops were scary. People do get artery aneurysms from that and die.  There’s controversy of how safe it is.  I would never get the neck adjusted.  

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8 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Something seemed a little fake to me, although I did have recovery from pain once from an acupuncturist.

I had actupuncture once too (no results: good or bad).  I don't see how those needles could harm anyone...but one WRONG neck crack...and it's goners.

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49 minutes ago, Back Atcha said:

I had actupuncture once too (no results: good or bad).  I don't see how those needles could harm anyone...but one WRONG neck crack...and it's goners.

Actually, I was having acupuncture for my dry eye condition and it took 2 weeks (2 sessions) to see improvement.  There was a huge improvement over the next 6 weeks. During that time, I hurt my back and had fare up of plantar fasciitis.  In one session, he dealt with all my issues!  The best outcome from any medical treatment I’ve ever had!  Not covered by my insurance, though.  100% out of pocket.  Worth it though.  

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8 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

The neck pops were scary. People do get artery aneurysms from that and die.  There’s controversy of how safe it is.

In fact, there isn't controversy among actual scientists, who agree that neck manipulation has a very high risk of stroke.  I couldn't watch more than the first few minutes, when she cracked the neck of the young woman with herniated cervical discs. I assume there was a big disclaimer on the screen at some point, like in the very lengthy waiver that any chiropractor requires before proceeding????

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Dr. Lee had a couple of really interesting cases in last night's episode. One patient was jumping on a bed 45 years ago with a pencil in her hand and she claimed that she stabbed herself in the hand with the pencil and the graphite tip was still embedded in her hand. Dr. Lee was dismissive of this at first. How had her body not rejected that foreign body at some point? Dr. Lee made a small incision in the area of the patient's palm there she said the pencil tip was. A small dark gray sac emerged. And lo and behold, there was a pencil tip within that sac! And it still wrote! 

Next was the case of the woman with a gross skin condition that affected her lower legs and feet. Her legs looked like they were covered in flaky scabs. Apparently the condition caused a terrible odor and the sores leaked fluid all the time. We'll have to wait for next's week;s episode to see what the diagnosis is. 

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I'm initially doubtful that the woman with the leg problem would be showing much progress.  Her son wouldn't promise to wrap them (per Dr. Lee's request), because the smell made him gag.  (That woman looked old enough to have Medicare.  Couldn't she get a home health aide?).

Plus, the woman liked to research pharmaceuticals and wasn't a believer in them.  She preferred "natural" treatments (OTC lotions and creams).

But, on the other hand, she must have shown progress.  I can't believe Dr. Lee would fly to Schenectady to see someone not following orders.  And I'm pretty sure the production company would know ahead of time.

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I haven't had the stomach to watch the leg lady's segment yet. Today's my birthday, and I decided there's a limit to how grossed out I want to be.

But, weirdly enough, I also jammed myself in the palm with a pencil ages ago. It took years for the pinhead-size black dot to go away, but eventually it did. God knows what caused all that goo to form in Erica's hand. She might not want to have herself televised jumping on a hotel bed at the age of 51, though.

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I'll be 83 in ten days.  I've seen "kids" at class reunions over the years who still have little "graphite stab marks" left on their hands and arms.  Two boys...the "stab marks" have lasted at least 50yrs.

 

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I still have my stab mark from 58 years ago.  I stabbed myself in my right middle finger.  The pencil lead broke off and it is still there.  It has never hurt and it has never changed in all these years.

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I had kind of lost track of this show.  I didn't realize it was on again.  I happened across it while she was extracting the pencil lead.  Then I saw the lady with the legs and yes, I will watch it again next week to see her.  But that's when I saw red.  "No one will help me."  I wonder if they are taught to say that by the show.  Lady, you had MAGGOTS in your legs.  You were hospitalized.  You refuse to take the medication.  YOU won't help YOURSELF.  She won't take the medicine because it "doesn't work" but lady, what you are taking doesn't work either!  GIve the medicine a shot, what do you have to lose!  Maggots.   You've got maggots to lose.

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7 minutes ago, bunnyface said:

I had kind of lost track of this show.  I didn't realize it was on again.  I happened across it while she was extracting the pencil lead.  Then I saw the lady with the legs and yes, I will watch it again next week to see her.  But that's when I saw red.  "No one will help me."  I wonder if they are taught to say that by the show.  Lady, you had MAGGOTS in your legs.  You were hospitalized.  You refuse to take the medication.  YOU won't help YOURSELF.  She won't take the medicine because it "doesn't work" but lady, what you are taking doesn't work either!  GIve the medicine a shot, what do you have to lose!  Maggots.   You've got maggots to lose.

From what I could see in the short bits we saw on the show, I don't think she's right in the head,  Hopefully she will listen to Dr. Lee.

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10 minutes ago, bunnyface said:

I had kind of lost track of this show.  I didn't realize it was on again.  I happened across it while she was extracting the pencil lead.  Then I saw the lady with the legs and yes, I will watch it again next week to see her.  But that's when I saw red.  "No one will help me."  I wonder if they are taught to say that by the show.  Lady, you had MAGGOTS in your legs.  You were hospitalized.  You refuse to take the medication.  YOU won't help YOURSELF.  She won't take the medicine because it "doesn't work" but lady, what you are taking doesn't work either!  GIve the medicine a shot, what do you have to lose!  Maggots.   You've got maggots to lose.

There are people (like several of my relatives) who will complain that no one will help them because no one will do the stupid things they are telling people to do.  She appears to be one of them.  

I don't think the show taught her to say that.  They didn't have to.

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Oh that lady with the legs...did she think it made her sound more intelligent when she kept on nattering on about the evils of modern medicine - and did she consult a natural practitioner (for lack of a better term - homeopath) who might have actually steered her to some beneficial treatments?  It also didn't seem like she washed the goo off her legs when it seeped out of her pores...yuck!  I wonder if poor hygiene caused this problem to be exacerbated?

That pencil thing was kind of funny because Dr. Lee was so amazed that it actually turned out to be a 45 year old pencil lead.  Our bodies are so amazing - it had formed a protective sack around the foreign body in her hand to protect itself - that really is cool.  

On the show a week before (I am a week behind) did anybody else see a followup on the woman who had cysts around her eyes?  I was wondering if she is going to be on a future episode since Dr. Lee was going to try to find a specialist to help her further, or did she just leave the office and never communicate with the show again?  (Obviously if there was a followup on her I must have dozed off which happens more than I want to admit.)

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The lady with the oozy legs was just pissing me off. She has no faith in "western" medicine so instead of trying the meds prescribed to her, she looks them up online and decides to try herbs or supplements instead. Sorry, lady, but if you have a bad infection, no amount of herbs and sups are going to help you. I have nothing against these things, (the hubs takes quite a few) and when I get a new prescription I look it up just to know 1, what its for, and 2, what kind of side effects I could have. But to ignore what the docs are telling her is just dumb. I'm no doctor, but it looked like to me she may have some sort of fungus or maybe eczema and the skin is going to have to be debrided to get that yellow crap off. Very painful. Also, her house seemed kind of cluttered which would make it harder for her to get around. She probably has poor circulation also. I hope Dr. Lee can help her-if she will accept the help.

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Sometimes with the patients, the bump is just the tip of the iceberg! ;-)

Shoulder bump lady was very much afraid of general anesthesia, which is understandable. But she also came across as very controlling: both complaining about how her housework made her shoulder hurt AND how she was responsible for working full time and taking care of the kids & housework. If her husband really didn't help her, then he's another useless lump of fat.

I love how Dr. Lee didn't believe the bump on the second lady's hand could be a pencil lead. As shown by all the people above in this thread, it happened a LOT when kids used sharp lead pencils to poke each other! Dr. Lee being her fun self, I loved that she wrote with the piece of graphite.

Leg lady seems to be another person who has a lot more going on than just her skin condition. There are ways to combine both classic medicine AND alternative treatments. My mother used to do wound care and certainly went by the book in traditional treatment, but for stubborn wounds she would sometimes try things like Tea Tree oil and (believe it or not) Bag Balm. That stuff is GOOD.

I feel bad for that woman and her son...she lives in NY State, so even if she's on a fixed income, she's probably eligible for home health care, which could come and treat her legs and change her dressings regularly...if she will let them.

 

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With the maggots on her legs, I would imagine there was an investigation and maybe a social worker assigned.  Sometimes, there’s cognitive decline that prevents a person from fully appreciating their condition and accepting treatment.  The condition she had reminds me of those on My 600 Pound Life.  
 

The weeping, painful, odorous flesh. It’s painful to see.  I do think Dr. Lee has a hangup about smells in her office.  She always makes a huge deal about it.  On at least one other time she elaborated on having to light candles, and endure a patient’s smell after they left the office.  To me, that’s unprofessional and I wish she’d stop. They could have allowed the woman with the leg condition to enter the office like all other patients.  Dr. Lee’s comment about the odor remaining on the office surfaces was ridiculous.  I do not buy that and if it’s true, have the cleaning staff clean it up.  That office is sanitized daily I would assume, anyway.  I am a fan of Dr. Lee, but this is something I do not like on the show.  

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She has no faith in "western" medicine so instead of trying the meds prescribed to her, she looks them up online and decides to try herbs or supplements instead.

I screamed at the TV: "HOW'S THAT WORKING FOR YA?" (tm Jeff van Vonderen from Intervention).

I love my mother, but I wouldn't change her stinking crusty leg dressings, either, especially if she was prescribed medicine and refused to take it. Some tasks call for a professional. 

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I love how Dr. Lee didn't believe the bump on the second lady's hand could be a pencil lead. 

I didn't believe it either! Not because lead can't get stuck in your skin, but because the lump on her hand seemed too big and jellylike for a pencil lead. I was surprised that Dr. Lee went anywhere near a hand surgery -- it seemed like that's an incredibly complex and delicate area with a ton of potential for injury if you're not a hand expert -- but she said it was superficial enough, and clearly she was right. I appreciated her featuring the fact that she was wrong and the patient was right all along. Once in a great while...

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The weeping, painful, odorous flesh. It’s painful to see.  I do think Dr. Lee has a hangup about smells in her office.  She always makes a huge deal about it.  On at least one other time she elaborated on having to light candles, and endure a patient’s smell after they left the office.  To me, that’s unprofessional and I wish she’d stop.

Are you sure you're not thinking of Dr. Ebonie Vincent on "My Feet Are Killing Me?" She had a patient who had not taken off her boot for two years and her whole leg stunk to high heaven. The doctor had to light a number of scented candles because the smell was so bad. 

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12 hours ago, mmecorday said:

Are you sure you're not thinking of Dr. Ebonie Vincent on "My Feet Are Killing Me?" She had a patient who had not taken off her boot for two years and her whole leg stunk to high heaven. The doctor had to light a number of scented candles because the smell was so bad. 

I agree. I don't recall that Dr. Lee "elaborated on having to light candles, and endure a patient’s smell after they left the office."  It's possible I missed an episode or two.

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On 6/3/2023 at 10:56 AM, SunnyBeBe said:

With the maggots on her legs, I would imagine there was an investigation and maybe a social worker assigned.  Sometimes, there’s cognitive decline that prevents a person from fully appreciating their condition and accepting treatment.  The condition she had reminds me of those on My 600 Pound Life.  

Cellulitis? I think that might be the condition you're thinking of.

Could this be why we didn't get a lengthy patient "before the visit" interview because there are other forces at work? 

I'm curious how it would be received by viewers if they did shorten the portion where they show how the malady is affecting their life. Perhaps in a similar matter to how they cut out the pleasantries that Dr. Lee and the patient exchanged during their first meeting. I find myself bored with seeing how the patient manages their condition and would rather learn more about the condition itself from Dr. Lee.

EDIT: I didn't realize that the episode aired on Wednesday night was a continuation of a previous episode! I thought the show had modified the format and not bore/scare us with the personal details of how the poorly cared for legs were affecting that woman's life.

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Didn't know the episode had a 1st part!
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I thought that Dr. Lee was a little too focused on the adult son helping care for the mom with the foot and lower leg problem.  While it’s nice if he wanted to do it, he’s not required to do it. There was something not quite right. Idk.   There are professional home health aids she might qualify for.  I hope the lady recovers.  She did seem better.  It ended on a positive note, so that’s good.  
 

I think the candles I mentioned may have been by the podiatrist, but I do think that Dr. Lee has also made prior comments about smells in the office, but I’ll try to find the scene to confirm.  Regardless, the lady from last week should have been allowed in the office, unless it was believed her condition was contagious, which she obviously did not think, as she gave the lady a diagnosis.  
 

 

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11 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Anyone still watching Crack Addict? Sorry, but I’m a triple D cup and it’s not nearly what that lady was sporting. Lol

She was a Triple E or was it a G

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I'm glad Paula was doing better and hopefully now that she has seen results and seen that western medicine *can* work, she will follow the appropriate regimen for the underlying venous insufficiency.  I think they probably should have started with that but there was probably no way she was going to follow orders, as she hadn't to this point.  Hopefully she gets better from here.

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1 hour ago, bunnyface said:

I'm glad Paula was doing better and hopefully now that she has seen results and seen that western medicine *can* work, she will follow the appropriate regimen for the underlying venous insufficiency.  I think they probably should have started with that but there was probably no way she was going to follow orders, as she hadn't to this point.  Hopefully she gets better from here.

Yes, me too.  Self neglect can be dangerous.  Not sure if that’s what was going on.  It happens with seniors sometimes and it’s difficult to remedy….even if there are other family members in the home.  

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On 6/7/2023 at 10:18 PM, ChitChat7085 said:

 

I'm curious how it would be received by viewers if they did shorten the portion where they show how the malady is affecting their life. Perhaps in a similar matter to how they cut out the pleasantries that Dr. Lee and the patient exchanged during their first meeting. I find myself bored with seeing how the patient manages their condition and would rather learn more about the condition itself from Dr. Lee.

Yes! I fast forward through most of the 'this makes me sad, anxious, hurts my social life' stuff and it gets repeated after the commercial break & Again when they meet Dr. Lee. Its so annoying! 

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I'll watch through the initial intro with the patient awkwardly going about their lives because I find you get more info about how it started and what, if anything, they've tried, but as soon as the friend/partner/child/sibling shows up, I'm fast forwarding until they get to the tent. 

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I watched one of those "supersized" episodes the other day (I think that's what they're called), and there was an aw-shucks cowboy with a very large bump over his knee. He didn't like doctors, so when his first attempt to get it looked at didn't go well, he just let it go on growing. Dr. Lee made an incision but sewed him back up again when what she saw seemed beyond her scope. She told him she'd put him in touch with an orthopedic surgeon in Tennessee.

The follow-up (I didn't see how long after the visit with her it was, but I assume it was at least a few weeks, more likely months) just said he was "in the process of being diagnosed," whatever that means. That felt very unsatisfactory, and I wish I knew what the upshot was. I even Googled his name, but nothing. I'd rather no follow-up at all than some no-result obfuscation.

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Well, I'll be. I've been watching too much My 600-Lb. Life, because when I saw the extreme chub rub this week, I thought weight loss was the only answer. Good for that patient for losing so much weight and for continuing to seek further help for the rash.

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4 minutes ago, Rickster said:

I noticed an off screen producer interjecting a question while Dr. Lee was treating a patient. I think it’s happened once or twice before, but I find it really odd.

She didn't seem to appreciate it either. And she didn't answer directly, more like re-stated what she'd already said. So, it seems we saw a bit of how they edit. And if they make her answer that way while they interrupt procedures, I'm understanding a bit more why she can seem a little annoyed yet fake-nice sometimes cuz that would really get on my nerves when I'm operating on someone.

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It's weird, because it destroys the illusion, on almost all these types of shows, that the only people in the room are the patient and the doctors and nurses. Of course we know better, but you would think they would edit the question out. Almost seems like sloppiness in editing.

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I felt this episode they were trying to change the format somewhat - it seemed that they cut down on some of the "personal history" bits and focused more on the procedures...they showed quite a bit of the procedure for the gentleman who had the big lipoma and also man with two cysts.

I can't imagine being that young girl and having such extreme skin issues for most of her life, and also facing the judgment of people regarding her weight.

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I don't mind hearing the producer's questions. The alternative to letting us hear the question is to force Dr. Lee to repeat herself without reference to it, so that the information can stand alone, as though she said it spontaneously. That can seem fake/forced, too. I often have questions for Dr. Lee, and the producer can stand in for me. I'd love to learn more about the science/medicine rather than the canned conversations between the patient and spouse about how they don't want to wear the blouse that reveals the rash. (Like the rest of you, I'm FFing those at this point.) I feel like the producer questions are more conducive to sharing medical info.

I acknowledge, though, that I'm a science nerd, and most of the audience for this show probably doesn't want it to move in a PBS direction.

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On 5/8/2023 at 11:06 PM, kwnyc said:

It also got to me that the neurofibromas  (as Dr. Lee said) can be overwhelming, and it doesn't seem like there's any real treatment for them. A lot of rare diseases don't have a specific treatment, and people are left looking like all the previous patients that were shown.

I still think about Matt from a few seasons ago. He’s very good looking, but his life would have been so much different if he didn’t have that condition. Genes can be so unfair.

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On 6/2/2023 at 9:20 AM, bunnyface said:

GIve the medicine a shot, what do you have to lose!  Maggots.   You've got maggots to lose.

I definitely draw the line at maggots! How can anyone stand having maggots IN THEIR BODY??!

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Last night's episode focused WAY too much on that dumbass witch with the cyst. Her "pop" was a nothingburger and her life was stupid. I have known and respected Wiccans so this is not a bias except inasmuch as I am biased against boring poseurs.

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On 6/5/2023 at 10:19 PM, IvySpice said:

I screamed at the TV: "HOW'S THAT WORKING FOR YA?" (tm Jeff van Vonderen from Intervention).

I love my mother, but I wouldn't change her stinking crusty leg dressings, either, especially if she was prescribed medicine and refused to take it. Some tasks call for a professional. 

I didn't believe it either! Not because lead can't get stuck in your skin, but because the lump on her hand seemed too big and jellylike for a pencil lead. I was surprised that Dr. Lee went anywhere near a hand surgery -- it seemed like that's an incredibly complex and delicate area with a ton of potential for injury if you're not a hand expert -- but she said it was superficial enough, and clearly she was right. I appreciated her featuring the fact that she was wrong and the patient was right all along. Once in a great while...

Believe it or not, I have a bit of graphite, from a pencil in my hand.  It's been there for years.

On 6/6/2023 at 10:34 AM, mmecorday said:

Are you sure you're not thinking of Dr. Ebonie Vincent on "My Feet Are Killing Me?" She had a patient who had not taken off her boot for two years and her whole leg stunk to high heaven. The doctor had to light a number of scented candles because the smell was so bad. 

Reminds me of an episode of Call the Midwife where a homeless man had pain in his feet and hadn't removed his shoes for years.  The nurse removed his boot and his foot fell off!

On 6/24/2023 at 1:29 PM, MagicEyes said:

I definitely draw the line at maggots! How can anyone stand having maggots IN THEIR BODY??!

I've seen emergency room pictures of such.  That woman did not need to see a dermatologist. She needed a wound care specialist.  I've seen legs like that but not quite as bad.  That was a circulation and stasis ulcer problem.  

Just watched last night's Save My Skin. Dr Emma had a similar patient.  She referred him to the correct specialist.   It was amazing how much better he was at the final follow up.

I don't really care about the patient and family talking about the skin problem before they see Dr Lee.  Those conversations seem like bad acting, because it is bad acting. I usually fast forward after I find out what the patient's issue is. 

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Okay, Wiccan Woman, maybe, just maybe, after seeing the first dermatologist who was too nervous to remove the small cyst on your forehead, you saved up your money to see a good cosmetic surgeon who could remove it instead of wasting money on other doctors who wouldn't do it and tats and piercings and other crap, maybe that would have been a better use of your money. It's a BIG UGLY LUMP ON YOUR FOREHEAD. No reason you couldn't have taken care of it years ago. And I swear I heard TicTac several times instead of TikTok...but no, you decide to throw yourself on the mercy and pro bono fund of Dr. Lee. Looks like you and your dad could have afforded the surgery, unlike some of the really poor and destitute patients we've seen before. Rant over! I was glad Personal Trainer Guy got that lipoma taken care of. Although he also should have had it taken care of a while ago. What's with these people? 

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