Season 1 - 3 Discussion

[Crashcourse]

16 minutes ago, AnnA said:

That's good - less competition for me  LOL

Yup.  I like 'em kinda lean and mean.  😉

Also, I'd wrestle Teeter's ass for Colby. 😁

Edited June 2, 2021 by Crashcourse

[namelessmonster]

On 6/2/2021 at 8:30 PM, Crashcourse said:

Those dudes are a little too macho for me, lol.   I'll take Walker, Jimmy and Ryan.  Even Lloyd is a silver fox.

LOL that's what i thought too!!

[blackwing]

I am finishing up Season 3... two episodes left.  But Beth Dutton has the line of the series with "You are the trailer park.  I'm the tornado."  I need to find a way to work that line into everyday conversation.

[blackwing]

I just discovered that the actress who plays Beth is English.  I've never seen her before, and would have had no idea.  Her American accent is flawless.

Also just learned that the actress who plays Monica is Chinese-American, or rather, 1/2 Chinese.  Interesting that they didn't cast someone who is actually Native American to play this role.  I know it's common to adopt a stage name when starting out as an actor, but it's a disappointing commentary to me that Kelsey Asbille (Chow) and Chloe Bennet (Wang) think, told, or were made to feel that having an Asian last name is a liability.

Edited July 2, 2021 by blackwing

[ShortyMac]

1 hour ago, blackwing said:

I just discovered that the actress who plays Beth is English.  I've never seen her before, and would have had no idea.  Her American accent is flawless.

Also just learned that the actress who plays Monica is Chinese-American, or rather, 1/2 Chinese.  Interesting that they didn't cast someone who is actually Native American to play this role.  I know it's common to adopt a stage name when starting out as an actor, but it's a disappointing commentary to me that Kelsey Asbille (Chow) and Chloe Bennet (Wang) think, told, or were made to feel that having an Asian last name is a liability.

Yes, same with Hugh Laurie. You would never know they are British. 
 

I agree about Monica, it’s been discussed here. 

[Pj3422]

On 7/2/2021 at 11:00 AM, ShortyMac said:

Yes, same with Hugh Laurie. You would never know they are British. 
 

 

Kelly Reilly played Caroline Bingley in the 2005 version of Pride & Prejudice. I like her American accent better than her natural British.

[Crashcourse]

Binge watching right now for the 3rd time, I have to say the best parts of this show are centered around the guys in the bunkhouse.   They could do a series just about them.

I still hate Beth, and the Beth/Jamie relationship.  Still can't stand Monica.

Still don't care abut Rainwater, casino shenanigans and other business stuff. 

 

[lucindabelle]

I actually think Beth’s accent is weird. She sounds like she’s from brooklyn. And once in a while her English accent slips.

in season 1 she was a tough chick who didn’t want a “date” and bathed in a horse trough… and dressed in heels and satin on a ranch! I must say I much prefer later Beth. 
 

good point about winter and no ranch bands having homes, but, maybe that’s what they’re offered? Kinda feels like all the writers reread Of Mice and Men. Hopefully they talked to contemporary ranchers but who knows.

yeah no way did Beth have a hysterectomy- she’d have to stay a week! If tubes tied that can potentially be reversed. Also yeah, Beth is meant to be in her 30s so this happened no more than 20 years ago and there is no. Way. Illegal in all 50 states.

montana is HUGE so I totally understand the impulse to homeschool but Tate needs company of kids his own age.

I like walker. Why does everyone hate him?

was the horse that IEP had to shoot the same one he set free?

I can’t believe Jamie was the killer though his cold reply to rip suggested it. After one convo with a man he just met? Nah. 
 

 

[WritinMan]

Wow. This show is ridiculous. And not the good kind of ridiculous.

[AnnA]

I love this show.

[PamPamPam]

On 9/7/2021 at 10:01 PM, WritinMan said:

Wow. This show is ridiculous. And not the good kind of ridiculous.

"Gun violence and physical violence solves everything."

[Crashcourse]

On 7/31/2021 at 9:56 PM, lucindabelle said:

I like walker. Why does everyone hate him?

I like Walker, too.

[monakane]

On 9/9/2021 at 7:27 PM, PamPamPam said:

"Gun violence and physical violence solves everything."

I just finished season 1 and I am hate watching this show.  There is no one to root for except for Monica's grandfather.  What an awful bunch of people and terrible parents.

[LadyIrony]

Although I like the show I feel like the creators never thought it would last long and didn't develop a long term story concept. They just seem to keep ramping up the violence and extremes. 

Like some others have mentioned, I have no interest in the Native story and the characters. They seem flat to me, just non compelling really. They also aren't sympathetic which is good in a way as the show is made up entirely of bad guys. 

Beth behaves like a 20 year old when she looks like she is in her 40's no idea how old the character is supposed to be. But she is a mess. 

I am not buying the ex junkie as a rodeo star. I am pretty sure you don't just pick it up that quickly and to that level so soon.

 

[SuprSuprElevated]

2 hours ago, LadyIrony said:

I am not buying the ex junkie as a rodeo star.

I must have nodded off, lol, who are we talking about here?

 

[Crashcourse]

Jimmy?

[SuprSuprElevated]

2 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

Jimmy?

Okay.  I was absent when his drug past was discussed I guess. 🤷‍♀️

Edited November 20, 2021 by SuprSuprElevated

[LadyIrony]

21 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

I must have nodded off, lol, who are we talking about here?

 

 

21 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Okay.  I was absent when his drug past was discussed I guess. 🤷‍♀️

He has a murky past but I am sure he was addicted to something when he first turned up or just getting off meth. He knew nothing about working on a ranch and I believe that someone could pick it up. But the way he has become this rodeo star winning buckles?

I don't think so! 

Edited November 20, 2021 by LadyIrony

[mostlylurking]

On 6/28/2018 at 1:37 AM, Andromeda said:

Montana is a cool state, the people are not really like these idiots. The daughter is really bizarre acting, not as a tough as nails business woman, but as a psycho with a ton of issues. Too bad I find her so unlikable, I could care less why she's so weird. 

I just started watching this show yesterday but two episodes in I’m so confused. I love Kevin Costner, Open Range is one of my favorite movies so the scenery porn is amazing. But there are way too many characters. Admittedly I am a lifelong city person but I’m having trouble following all the land grabs, cattle moving on and off land and what that means, etc.  Seems to me there is an abundance of riches in this family and wouldn’t there be enough land to go around?  But again, I’m just a city person, and a northeasterner at that.

Also, the daughter. Sorry to be shallow but she is not attractive enough to be some sort of man eater. Maybe she would be considered attractive in Montana (not an insult I know different parts of the world find different things attractive). But the bangs and the black bra with white shirt, ugh. It’s not working. Like others have said on here, she seems cartoonish.

Duttons children have all spoken sort of derisively about the city folk but I find it ironic that they are all rich kids with all the privilege that goes along with that, just instead of living in a penthouse they live on a huge expanse of land in a multimillion dollar cabin.  The hot one (can’t remember names just yet) got away and now lives on a reservation with his wife but that’s a choice he had the luxury of making, where the others are kind of “stuck” there.  I can see why others on the res would be wary of him, even if that’s unfair.

 

Edited November 28, 2021 by mostlylurking

[LadyIrony]

On 11/29/2021 at 6:56 AM, mostlylurking said:

I just started watching this show yesterday but two episodes in I’m so confused. I love Kevin Costner, Open Range is one of my favorite movies so the scenery porn is amazing. But there are way too many characters. Admittedly I am a lifelong city person but I’m having trouble following all the land grabs, cattle moving on and off land and what that means, etc.  Seems to me there is an abundance of riches in this family and wouldn’t there be enough land to go around?  But again, I’m just a city person, and a northeasterner at that.

Also, the daughter. Sorry to be shallow but she is not attractive enough to be some sort of man eater. Maybe she would be considered attractive in Montana (not an insult I know different parts of the world find different things attractive). But the bangs and the black bra with white shirt, ugh. It’s not working. Like others have said on here, she seems cartoonish.

Duttons children have all spoken sort of derisively about the city folk but I find it ironic that they are all rich kids with all the privilege that goes along with that, just instead of living in a penthouse they live on a huge expanse of land in a multimillion dollar cabin.  The hot one (can’t remember names just yet) got away and now lives on a reservation with his wife but that’s a choice he had the luxury of making, where the others are kind of “stuck” there.  I can see why others on the res would be wary of him, even if that’s unfair.

 

I feel the same about the daughter. She is "Easy" to use the more polite term which would attract a lot of attention but she is a mess and not that attractive. I also keep thinking we are meant to see her as being a lot younger than the actress who plays her. She does not look young at all and that makes her more pathetic than a sexy type of vulnerable. 

If that is the case than the actress they have chosen is poorly cast. 

They do seem wealthy but perhaps only on paper. It is all wrapped up in their land and they probably don't have that much actual money. They all seem to work for a living and their jobs involve ensuring their property remains theirs. They could just sell it and never have to work another day in their lives. Chances are future Dutton offspring will do just that. 

 

 

[ryebread]

On 7/4/2021 at 5:43 PM, Crashcourse said:

I still hate Beth, and the Beth/Jamie relatationship.

I missed the first 3 episodes of S1.  Starting S2 today. 

Is the reason that Beth hates Jamie explained in the episodes I missed?  Or is that yet to be divulged?

If I missed it, will someone kindly explain?  But don't spoil it if it's explained after S2.  Thanks.

 

[Moose135]

9 minutes ago, ryebread said:

Or is that yet to be divulged?

It is still to come.

[ryebread]

1 hour ago, Moose135 said:

It is still to come.

Thanks, Moose.  Can't wait to find out what's propelling all that hate. It's deep with that one.

[ryebread]

Why did Avery, the female ranch hand, leave the ranch?

[lucindabelle]

The actress who plays Beth was gorgeous when she was younger and it’s as if they forgot she’s 40 something now.

she’s very cartoonish in the early episodes but why redo her in season 2 and she becomes interesting and human. I promise. Still bitchy but not a silly sex with no emotions drink too much cliche. 

[Raja]

2 hours ago, lucindabelle said:

The actress who plays Beth was gorgeous when she was younger and it’s as if they forgot she’s 40 something now.

she’s very cartoonish in the early episodes but why redo her in season 2 and she becomes interesting and human. I promise. Still bitchy but not a silly sex with no emotions drink too much cliche. 

I think culturally it doesn't matter if she is gorgeous or not, she puts herself out as available. For a series of one night stands she remains good enough and has about 15 to 20 years left in that status before being left with her own age group or the fetish men. With Rip mostly on the ranch the fear of Dutton henchmen coming for vengeance wouldn't be felt.

[LadyIrony]

This show confuses me. How old are some of the characters supposed to be?! In the ep guest starring Piper Perabo she makes a comment about Dutton being in his 50's he looks much older. She also makes a comment about his daughter being too old to behave the way she does, something I have also noted. Are these people supposed to be much younger than they look and then the actors who portray them?

I also seriously doubt Perabo's character would have slept with Dutton let alone gone back to his ranch. She is a zealot in the end. Was she also supposed to be much younger than she looked? Because it seems like something a more impulsive younger person might do. 

It was good to see her get put in her place by the counter arguments anyway. 

 

Just found this article Beth is supposed to be 36 or so now https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1397124/Yellowstone-explained-Beth-Dutton-age-Kelly-Reilly-Paramount They picked the wrong actress! 

@ryebread Avery had enough of the violence and also without Jimmy being there she probably had nothing left to keep her there.

Edited December 7, 2021 by LadyIrony

[khyber]

I'm just starting to watch this show. I've watched 4 episodes. The daughter is such a cartoony character.  Does that improve as the series progresses?

[rcc]

11 minutes ago, khyber said:

I'm just starting to watch this show. I've watched 4 episodes. The daughter is such a cartoony character.  Does that improve as the series progresses?

No she gets worse.

[mostlylurking]

I’m still making my way through season 2. I was confused about the fight between Rip and Kayce. To me it seemed obvious Kayce was getting his ass kicked, but Rip backed down and deferred to Kayce so the others could see that Kayce is now the lead guy. To me, it seems everyone else is falling in line out of respect for Rip, not Kayce. Kayce didn’t win that fight. It was quite embarrassing to gain power in that way. 

Also embarrassing was the fact that Kayce said a grown man doesn’t live in his fathers house. Umm, you are still living on your fathers land so what’s the difference, plus he had no problem kicking another man out of his house that he’s worked for since he was a child.

I liked Kayce in season 1 but like Monica I think I was just blinded by his hotness, and now even that’s fading.

This episode was also the most I’ve liked Beth.   She made sense in her talks to Rip and Kayce. She was also spot on about the smarmy realtor. Yuck. 

[Crashcourse]

2 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

I’m still making my way through season 2. I was confused about the fight between Rip and Kayce. To me it seemed obvious Kayce was getting his ass kicked, but Rip backed down and deferred to Kayce so the others could see that Kayce is now the lead guy. To me, it seems everyone else is falling in line out of respect for Rip, not Kayce. Kayce didn’t win that fight. It was quite embarrassing to gain power in that way. 

 At one point Rip looked over at John and he gave Rip the signal to throw the fight and let Kayce win.  I think the other bunkhouse guys knew what happened, too, and they understood that John wanted Kayce to be in charge.  I agree, it was embarrassing and it didn't help Kayce's standing with the other guys.  I think they still felt that Rip was the boss.   

[mostlylurking]

I’m almost through season two and still don’t understand why Beth hates Jaime so much. He and the brother that was killed seem quite a bit older than Beth and Kayce, so it doesn’t seem they would have had a whole lot of interaction as kids. I really hope this is explained, because it goes so far beyond even an extreme case of sibling rivalry. Even stranger it seems Jaime and Rip get along pretty well. Speaking of Rip, I also don’t get why Rip hated Walker so much. Because he didn’t want to break the law? Because he had a very benign flirtation with Beth?  Just weird. 

I’m also confused about how many homes are on this massive estate. Obviously the main house, the bunk house, and the foreman’s house. But Last season I thought Kayce and Monica stayed in a guest house, and when John moved out of the main house the house he moved to had all his late sons belongings in it. So was that a different house as well??  This is why I don’t get why Rip had to move back into the bunk house, there seems to be plenty of houses to go around. Maybe just for appearances sake?

Beth has been a lot more tolerable this season, inexplicable Jaime hate aside. Monica needs to pick a lane. She can’t be all offended/disapproving of the Dutton lifestyle then still be reaping the benefits of said lifestyle. I mean I wouldn’t want to give up that sweet bathroom either, but ya gotta own it girl.  She’s not exactly living with Boy Scouts here. And then in practically the same breath she says she wants to add even more kids into the clusterfuck. Jeeze. 

Edited January 9, 2022 by mostlylurking

[TxHummingbird]

Hi y'all.  As a big fan of Yellowstone & Kevin Costner, I just love this show! Pure escapism, violence, scheming, horses, rodeo, dysfunctional family dynamic, beautiful scenery, it has it all. 

I despise Monica & the actress who portrays her. With all of Monica's fervor for her Native American ancestry, the fact that the actress misrepresented herself as Native American & got the job is reprehensible. Also the mousy character irks the hell outta me with all her simpering.

Does it bug anyone else that there's been no mention of Roarke going missing?  Someone he works with/for should have missed him by now.  I guess he's just laying out in the woods mouldering away, or what's left of him, after the critters have been at his carcass. He died too quickly from that snakebite. Even running & being bitten on the face, it would have taken longer for him to kick the bucket. Too bad Rip didn't have another snake to present to Jamie.

Also, what happened to that kid on the side of the road after the shooting?  The mom was gunned down, but the kid was down in the ditch looking for the lug nuts. These little forgotten bits annoy me. I suppose we're not suppose to notice, but I notice.

Why are those damn barrel racers back in the bunkhouse? I thought they were banished. I was glad Teeter asked for & got her job back though.

Jimmie cowboyed the hell up! I finally start to like him & he's gone to Texas. Can't say as I blame him.  That little Texas vet was a pretty good fighter.  And yes, chili does NOT have beans in it! 

I sure hope we don't have to wait another whole year for Season 5. 

 

 

[Dowel Jones]

11 hours ago, TxHummingbird said:

He died too quickly from that snakebite.

And a competent detective would look at him and wonder "How did a guy who was fishing get bit on the head by a rattlesnake?"  But that would cause too many problems.

[Raja]

15 minutes ago, Dowel Jones said:

And a competent detective would look at him and wonder "How did a guy who was fishing get bit on the head by a rattlesnake?"  But that would cause too many problems.

Perhaps the real and/or Yellowstone world is like The Wire and  the Major Rawls counterpart,  Sheriff Haskell, won't let a competent detective turn an accidental death into a who dunnit unsolved murder.

[Maximona]

On 8/26/2020 at 6:24 PM, tennisgurl said:

So Jamie can now pick between the creepy white trash dad who cheers him on to murder people and beat his wife/Jamie's mom to death, or the emotionally distant dad who can barley stand him for becoming the thing that he wanted him to be, and admitted that he doesn't love him.

No, there's a Door #3!

Jamie can move to another state and take their bar exam (since Montana doesn't offer reciprocity.)

And never have anything to do with those Dutton creeps ever again.

Please, Taylor Sheridan.  Have the toilet from an orbiting space station fall on John Dutton's head.  Or something.

[circumvent]

A friend convince me to watch this show, after all this time, and I did because he also gave me the episodes, since I only pay for things I absolutely want. It is a mixed bag. Kevin Costner is good as John Dutton but the characters are just so unlikable, I just want them all to die, except for Mo. Monica is the whiniest character, always brooding and suffering from something I cannot quite get. The rest are just a bunch o f bullies that if they don't get their way, they kill the foe. Literally kill them. Am I supposed to be amazed by anything in this show? And do people in Montana speak like Texans? 

No wonder this country has a problem with some people believing they have some inherent right to anything they want just because. The Duttons fighting to "keep their land" is just a teeny tiny bit ironic - my ancestors stole this land by maiming and murdering the indigenous people who were here for millennia, now some people want to take MY LAND away from me? What does the show's creator want to convey? Irony, cluelessness, what?

Then there is the fact that big corporations, asinine people are the ones trying to get the land. So there is nobody to root for, only people to hate. Meh.

[mostlylurking]

I’m halfway through season three. How old is Tate, 8/9?  If Monica and Kayce want more kids as Monica implied (horrible idea, John seems to parent Tate more than his actual parents) they should probably get themselves checked out. As much as Monica and Kayce bang how have they not had a million babies by now?

Where was Tate sleeping during the awkward dad/son early morning encounter?  Also what happened to the governors security team?  They just let her go off into the wilderness by herself and then just waited around the ranch all night?  I’ll admit though, Kevin Costner might have aged but he is still sexy as all hell.  

Beth and Rip are so sweet. Jimmy’s new girl seems like a straight up stalker. Calling herself his girlfriend after like one sentence, the absurd deflowering. Jimmy, when you can, run. 

[mostlylurking]

Ok I thought Beth’s hatred of Jaime was completely over the top, but now that I know the reason I think it’s every bit deserved and then some. What an absolute scumbag. I’m wondering if John ever found out what happened and that would explain his hatred for his own son as well. He better hope Rip never finds out. 

Also, what an awful policy in general at that reservation clinic. Just hard to fathom all the indignities indigenous people suffered, and still suffer to this day. 

[mostlylurking]

On 7/20/2020 at 1:50 PM, MartyQui said:

Ok, I'm all in on suspension of disbelief, but if they gave 15 year old Beth a tubal ligation, she could still have children through IVF.  Women who've had ectopic pregnancies and lost a fallopian tube do it all the time.  Especially possible since money wouldn't be an issue.  Again, these plot devices make NO sense.

Yes, she could still go that route but it’s not a matter of “just do ivf it’ll be fine”. Even if money isn’t an issue the ivf process is complex, physically and mentally.  And as with anything else, there are no guarantees (Believe me, I’ve been through it.)

I think the bigger issue is that Jamie didn’t tell her about the procedure. Yes, of course the clinic is also culpable and maybe she would have still gone through with it if she had known, but she was never given that choice. I think it’s fucked up. Now it makes sense why he never fights back when she attacks him other than that time he punched her. God, what a fucked up family. 

Kayce is hot but seems dumber than a box of hair. He can’t make any move without daddy’s approval. He seems like he would be content to live in the woods and have sex with his wife while his kid runs wild. Not a bad life actually, but he doesn’t seem to have the drive to see it through. 

 

[Milburn Stone]

On 6/23/2018 at 2:20 AM, Lonesome Rhodes said:

The rest of the eps may be turrible.  I will still honor Costner's vision and his attempt to share it with us.

As you might guess, I've just started the series. :) Well, actually, I'm almost at the end of S1. I loved your whole post, @Lonesome Rhodes, but am curious about this. To what extent is the show's Costner's vision, as opposed to, say, Taylor Sheridan's? Did the show originate with him, and he went to Sheridan to develop it? Enquiring minds want to know.

[Milburn Stone]

On 6/25/2018 at 2:45 PM, Ohwell said:

She's a trainwreck.

Beth is this show's Roman. (Or maybe Roman is that show's Beth.)

Edited February 17, 2022 by Milburn Stone

[Milburn Stone]

Was very proud of myself that I recognized Monica's surgeon as--Brian Unger, of The Daily Show in the nineties!

[Milburn Stone]

On 8/23/2018 at 8:41 PM, missbonnie said:

Apparently I am the only one who loves this show with it's f*cked up characters.

Nope.

[Dowel Jones]

It's fun to watch if you don't take it seriously or try to apply any logic to it.

[Milburn Stone]

On 7/19/2020 at 9:50 PM, Artsda said:

We finally know what Jamie did, he in his own twisted way thought he was doing the right thing for the family by keeping her from going to town.  He didn't think or care of Beth's future at all. 

I think that he (in his twisted way) had a whole additional reason for "doing the right thing for the family." I think his thought process was: My sister is a slut. If she gets the abortion anywhere else, she'll just be pregnant again in a month. And then the month after that. We can't have that. I'm putting a stop to this right now.

Edited March 9, 2022 by Milburn Stone

[Lakebum]

On 1/10/2022 at 12:24 AM, TxHummingbird said:

Hi y'all.  As a big fan of Yellowstone & Kevin Costner, I just love this show! Pure escapism, violence, scheming, horses, rodeo, dysfunctional family dynamic, beautiful scenery, it has it all. 

I despise Monica & the actress who portrays her. With all of Monica's fervor for her Native American ancestry, the fact that the actress misrepresented herself as Native American & got the job is reprehensible. Also the mousy character irks the hell outta me with all her simpering.

Does it bug anyone else that there's been no mention of Roarke going missing?  Someone he works with/for should have missed him by now.  I guess he's just laying out in the woods mouldering away, or what's left of him, after the critters have been at his carcass. He died too quickly from that snakebite. Even running & being bitten on the face, it would have taken longer for him to kick the bucket. Too bad Rip didn't have another snake to present to Jamie.

Also, what happened to that kid on the side of the road after the shooting?  The mom was gunned down, but the kid was down in the ditch looking for the lug nuts. These little forgotten bits annoy me. I suppose we're not suppose to notice, but I notice.

Why are those damn barrel racers back in the bunkhouse? I thought they were banished. I was glad Teeter asked for & got her job back though.

Jimmie cowboyed the hell up! I finally start to like him & he's gone to Texas. Can't say as I blame him.  That little Texas vet was a pretty good fighter.  And yes, chili does NOT have beans in it! 

I sure hope we don't have to wait another whole year for Season 5. 

 

 

Either I need to watch the end of Season 3 again, or there are some Season 4 spoilers posted here in the Seasons 1-3 thread...

[latincoffee]

On 7/3/2018 at 8:07 PM, NeenerNeener said:

I was having a hard time telling the dark-haired, bearded guys apart, so it's probably just as well that one of them died in this episode. Just to be clear, the one the hard-ass daughter boinked was NOT her brother, right? You can never be sure when some obscure network show might decide to go all Game of Thrones just for the shock value.

 I guess I've heard Ashokan Farewell enough now to recognize it within a bar or two.

I have the same issue. Every time I watch any of the episodes, To assist my memory of the characters, I open up a window with Yellowstone Cast members with pictures. It helps!!

[AnnA]

On 1/10/2022 at 1:18 PM, Dowel Jones said:

And a competent detective would look at him and wonder "How did a guy who was fishing get bit on the head by a rattlesnake?"  But that would cause too many problems.

He could have been taking a nap near the river.

[seth]

We're just now binging the whole series, and just saw Season 2 finale, with the recovery of Tate and the end of the Beck brothers.

I wonder if anyone here, like us, found this to be the worst written of all episodes. Full of stupid choices and obvious plot-devices just to 'get on' with the story.

After all that build-up of the big bad Becks and their immense power over the region, all that fear of their reach and retribution, one simply gets killed on the toilet and the other just gets shotgunned (in the dark...at first you can't even tell it's Malcolm who John shot) in a place where he would never have been, hanging out with losers at the very place where Tate was being held. Oh, c'mon!

The real, smart-scary Malcolm would never go to the one place most likely for the Duttons to find out and find him. He'd control the whole thing from a safe distance, and let his skinhead lackies control the actual abduction site.

Yet, there he is, with nothing but two white-supremacist assholes, no beefed-up hired guns or militia to keep the house well surrounded and guarded, and him running across the grounds with nothing but a handgun, just waiting to be dispatched by the Duttons. The real Malcolm would be a million miles away, controlling things by phone orders. What reason would he have to hang around right at the Tate site??

And why the other house full of white-supremacists, where Casey is first mis-directed? Tate was never there, and for sure none of those jerks were gonna divulge the correct location. We all knew Casey would only get the real location from one of the two Becks, while dying. Just a distraction, a plot device to fill up more time and allow for more heads exploding in gratuitous blood spurts.

It just didn't wash, and we felt disappointed that Taylor Sheridan dropped the ball in good writing for this pivotal episode. Shoulda stuck with the planned exploding-Cessna, with the Becks dying much-more magnificently in a ball of fire dropping from the sky, and kept Tate's recovery from the white trash as totally separate.

Edited May 10, 2022 by seth