Spoilers And Shockers

[peachmangosteen]

4 hours ago, Chick2Chic said:

Ugh at the return of KM as Abby but at least it's a short return. 

Do we know how long she'll be around?

[Harmony233]

3 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Do we know how long she'll be around?

Too long lol speaking of abby do ciaria or Claire even have a relationship with her lol.

[Chick2Chic]

17 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Do we know how long she'll be around?

I read KM and BF are taking Chabby offscreen in February 2019.  *throws confetti*

I think KM was only there around 3 months to wrap up the story since MM said "I'm good, luv" when asked to extend her stay to wrap the story., And, of course, KM will be slappy Abby again. 

I think KdP returns in January 2019 and BD last airs this week. 

Chrishell Hartley returns in either late December or January, likely with Rafe spawn. I almost wish Jordan was returning with Chad spawn. Oh well. I had hoped Rafe would end up getting an infertility story.

Oh, I am also here for Ted & Hope. Not cause I like Ted and Hope's been on my crap list for a while. It's just that Rope are just so awful cause any woman Rafe is seriously paired with immediately has to be put in a damsel role so he can *rescue* her. Rinse, repeat.  

I think Broe from the DoD promo is a red herring as I read Chloe will be paired with Stefan, Gabi may be paired with Rex (I wish it was Lani that Rex was paired with cause she's running out of options to perk her character up), and Brady will likely get back together with Eve (ugh). 

Edited November 12, 2018 by Chick2Chic
added something.

[Apprentice79]

4 hours ago, Chick2Chic said:

You feel how you feel. Not everyone will like the same characters and I do think those characters are popular with the general audience whether folks love them, hate them, or love to hate them. Folks don't feel indifferent to them. They create buzz and stories and that's needed. That's one reason why TPTB bring them back. Without high energy characters who can generate chemistry in scenes with other characters  we're left with the doldrums of Elani and Chabby and Rafe (TBF, Eli can sizzle with other characters but he doesn't with Lani nor with Gabi). If everyone was happy/content all the time - or viewers were bored - there would be not conflict and no show.  One of my favorite recent shows, Elite on Netflix, is good with showing characters who are protagonists in their own stories and antagonists in other stories. It's not black and white & I think no soaps is meant to be black and white (esp when "white" characters do bad things on a consistent basis).

Like I said before, I am happy with upcoming Cin and they seem to be generating enough buzz that Ron and other soap medium have noticed & commented. I'm here for a young pairing that generates chemistry and genuine interest now. Looking forward instead of looking back.

Ah, I forgot to mention about the promo what looks like the pairing of Sheila and Abe... which meh. Isn't Sheila like Eli's age? Not to mention, the show keeps putting Abe with these feisty women when he's so dully and dry. Also still not a fan of the putting all the Black people together instead of integrating their stories and romances. Not sure why romances with Black characters are segregated on Days. Doesn't seem like they feel the need to do it with characters of other races / ethnicities yet it seems they base pairings on melanin tones with Days. (GH does it too, though). I'm fine with two Black characters have chemistry and are paired together - Neil / Druscilla and Hevon on YR are good examples - but Eli has more chem with Sheila than he does Lani & Abe and Sheila work better as foils for each other than potential lovers, IMO. 

I wish that the show would invest in other villains beside the Dimeras. It has gotten old.  Every bad thing that has happened in Salem is connected to them. Steve, Hope, and Marlena were held captive by him when in their original stories, they died because of other villains. Even if they wanted a Dimera, the show has forgotten that Stefano has 6 older brothers who may have had children and grandchildren. Stefan did not have to be Stefano's son, he could have been his nephew or grandnephew.  

Edited November 13, 2018 by Apprentice79

[scarynikki12]

You can disagree about the show without insulting each other.  If you don't think you can engage with other posters and remain civil, then use the Ignore feature. 

[SueB]

It's so funny, when MM replaced KM, I wasn't happy -- for a long time I found MM bland. Since her DiD story, however, I've really liked her acting.  So seeing KM back, really throws me.  

As others have put together their key guesses, I'll add mine (which agree with many):
- Lani & Eli, Ciara & Ben are new couples - I THINK Sheila & Abe but it's a really slow burn. Ditto on the slow burn for Eric & Sarah. Rex is not getting Sarah back (even though Rex's offense SHOULD be recoverable -- by soap standards).
- Stefan goes down
- Kate comes clean to take out Stefan
- Abigail actress change literally occurs under that blanket with KM the one to emerge after being "locked up" for two-three weeks
- Gabi nearly marries Chad but Abigail stops it.
- Julie falls down the stairs but wakes up in time for Christmas and the baby reveal
- Eve's revenge is a mentally poisoned Jack against Jen - Jack will have some weaksauce excuse why he won't take Jen back but Eve will be pulling the strings
- Brady is on thin ice supporting Chloe & Holly, no wonder Eric takes a swing at him.  Brady really must not want to reconcile with Eric if he's going against Nicole's dying wish. It's possible in the custody hearing that will inevitably happen, it'll be Brady's testimony regarding Nicole's dying wish that give Eric custody of Holly.  I tell you what, DOOL sure has a way of poisoning ALL relationships somehow. 
- Ted's coming back to give evidence -- I just don't know what of.
- Victor must have been the one to 'revive' Leo and has been waiting to spring this on Sonny for a while.  I presume it's because he's trying to get Sonny back in shape to take over the company and clearing up the Leo mess is required.  Chad seems to be running things in name only - I haven't seen him talk business in MONTHS.

 

What I REALLY want but didn't see a hint of:
- Chad verbally shredding Gabi.  While I think Chad has handled things miserably (moving out; bad... putting Abigail in the hospital; really bad... GIVING AWAY HER BABY; I may never forgive him) -- Gabi has done Chad WRONG.  Her target was Abigail & Stefan but the damage to Chad is unrecoverable IMO.
- Eric with washed hair.  Seriously, gorgeous man, but the hair looks like it needs a good shampoo.
- Chad ripping into Kate. She was the reason Chad bought what Gabi was selling. I actually like Kate but her moral ambiguity needs to bite her in the ass on this.

 

[IWantCandy71]

I hate custody stories but they ARE soapy if the emotions are good and the acting is well done. I don't really get the point of pitting Brady and Eric against each other in this, too. It seems like overkill. But at least the woman they will be fighting over is too young for  either of them to date.

I will say-one of the reasons I can never take either Brady or Eric seriously in a romance-geez Eric, your "true love" (LOL what-ever) Nicole just "died". He about broke the speed barrier running from Jennifer to Nicole. He comes across as very flaky, with little to no loyalty. It's not attractive in anyone, much  less a forty something year old man.

Do something different, show. Make Eric and Brady both have to be alone for a long, long time.  They both have far too much growing up to do-two middle aged men fighting like BABIES over a woman who ain't worth it-and I say that as a former huge Nicole fan.

I don't care if it IS a soap, they both annoy me in pairings. They both get unbearably self righteous(though Eric is that way alone or with someone TBH). 

And I guess that means everyone will be against each other until Holly is sick and needs them to all come together and BOY I am falling asleep just thinking of it. It will be Sarah in the end, because she's the new Abby. 

Yeah, that's right. I'm calling it now. Soon she will be the one who is right and never wrong and so extra and so precious. Do you love her yet ? 

If I were Holly, I'd find me a Daddy Warbucks and get the heck outta Dodge. Yes, I know she's too little to speak up for herself. More's the pity for her. It's not like she's got the cream of the crop (I almost typed crap) to choose from.

I want Victor to get involved and plant his foot up some rears. That's what I want, I don't really care about any other aspect of the story. 

Edited November 13, 2018 by IWantCandy71

[Kitty Redstone]

On 11/11/2018 at 10:00 AM, Apprentice79 said:

I am team Gabi all the way. Yes, she is vile right now, but, I hate Abby.  She will be a victim once again with lots of family to tell her that she is awesome. Meanwhile, Gabi has nothing. I will never understand the show's fascination with Abby. 

 

Same here.  She's never been a compelling character no matter what her story.  Even when she was gaslighting Austin she wasn't all that interesting, and that was the best story she was in.  She moved from boring and delusional to smug and hateful.  Remember when she mocked Anne for adopting homeless cats?  Who but an asshole would do that?

On 11/11/2018 at 10:32 AM, nilyank said:

As much as i have liked Chad, the worse thing that happened to his character is the chokehold Chabby relationship had on his character and the ridiculous length the show went to give them DRAMA in order to make the interesting.

Totally agree.  Chad was always so much better in stories and relationships that didn't involved Abigail.  I never bought their deep connection.

On 11/11/2018 at 6:43 PM, howmanywords said:

Yes to all this but I'm going to add something.  I HATED Ben at one time.  Even when the character was first introduced I didnt like him or RSW. The necktie story? Forget it.  I was shaken for the longest time remembering Paige's brutal murder. 

 

I also disliked Ben and RSW.  He was another character wasted and ruined on Abigail.

5 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

Do we know how long she'll be around?

Even if it's one episode it will be one episode too many!  I think it'll be about three months.  Hopefully her part of the story will quickly move to the backburner because KM's Abigail is quite unlikable.

Edited November 13, 2018 by Kitty Redstone

[Irlandesa]

On 11/11/2018 at 8:59 PM, cmahorror said:

Am I the only one hoping that Jack comes back pissed about how Jennifer has been acting since his last "death"? He definitely does not look happy to see her in the preview.

I think this is a situation where I should be careful what I wish for.  I'd love nothing more for a darker (while still darkly comedic) Jack to return.  But it could go all wrong if Ron goes too dark. (Which, lets face it, he could.  Wait until they give Kayla amnesia too and have the two of them fall in love.)

Jack has never been really the type to judge Jennifer too harshly even when she deserved it.  So I don't know how in character, even as an amnesiac, it would be.

And I hope they're careful with how they write Eve's part in it.  I also think she's somehow involved in his death and based on how often they're working together, I wouldn't be surprised if she has convinced him they're together.  Just as long as they write it as some sort of revenge on Jennifer and not some long lost love situation.  That was not never their relationship even if feelings do creep into the present.  Write it from the present.

[Harmony233]

1 hour ago, Kitty Redstone said:

Same here.  She's never been a compelling character no matter what her story.  Even when she was gaslighting Austin she wasn't all that interesting, and that was the best story she was in.  She moved from boring and delusional to smug and hateful.  Remember when she mocked Anne for adopting homeless cats?  Who but an asshole would do that?

Totally agree.  Chad was always so much better in stories and relationships that didn't involved Abigail.  I never bought their deep connection.

I also disliked Ben and RSW.  He was another character wasted and ruined on Abigail.

Even if it's one episode it will be one episode too many!  I think it'll be about three months.  Hopefully her part of the story will quickly move to the backburner because KM's Abigail is quite unlikable.

 

What I don't get about abby is where supposed to see her as a heroine and I have no idea why.I mean I haven't like Jennifer in years but I bought her as a heroine.Abby does horrible things.when Sami was scheming to break up Carrie and Austin she was considered bad when abby did it no big deal.Abby having an affair with EJ and Sami being the villain and abby faking her de ath.she never suffered any consequences for any of this stuff.

Edited November 13, 2018 by Harmony233

[Apprentice79]

8 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

I think this is a situation where I should be careful what I wish for.  I'd love nothing more for a darker (while still darkly comedic) Jack to return.  But it could go all wrong if Ron goes too dark. (Which, lets face it, he could.  Wait until they give Kayla amnesia too and have the two of them fall in love.)

Jack has never been really the type to judge Jennifer too harshly even when she deserved it.  So I don't know how in character, even as an amnesiac, it would be.

And I hope they're careful with how they write Eve's part in it.  I also think she's somehow involved in his death and based on how often they're working together, I wouldn't be surprised if she has convinced him they're together.  Just as long as they write it as some sort of revenge on Jennifer and not some long lost love situation.  That was not never their relationship even if feelings do creep into the present.  Write it from the present.

Jack could never treat Jennifer harshly, even if she deserved it because of his past with Kayla.  A part of Jack has never forgiven himself for what he did to Kayla. That self-loathing adds an extra layer of complication in Jack's dynamic with Jennifer. Not to mention what happened to Jennifer with Lawrence who reminded Jack of the man he used to be.  Ron has to be careful in not going too far and I hope that Sherry who is there will help guide him in Jack's characterization.  

Edited November 13, 2018 by Apprentice79

[Lastwaltz]

Wow, Chick, a lot of good intel there, thanks! I like Stefan and Chloe together. And yes, Lani needs something. 

I'm sad to see Chabby go, but I think I'm just wistful for the pair that first fell in love and those early adventures. This Stefan's baby storyline is SO dumb. Was never crazy about Jordan although now that I know she's married to Kevin from This is us, it makes her a little more interesting. Hopefully she won't be as tense and stiff this time around. 

Brady, Eve, yada, yada. Blech. 

[TeeVee329]

17 hours ago, Chick2Chic said:

I think Broe from the DoD promo is a red herring as I read Chloe will be paired with Stefan

On a related note, obviously this is way down the line given the filming schedule, but is Brandon Barash still filming as Stefan or did he just come in to fill the shoes long enough for them to get rid of the character?

11 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

And I hope they're careful with how they write Eve's part in it.  I also think she's somehow involved in his death and based on how often they're working together, I wouldn't be surprised if she has convinced him they're together.  Just as long as they write it as some sort of revenge on Jennifer and not some long lost love situation.

I mean, didn't Eve say as much when she left, that she hated Jenn and would have her revenge one day?

[Apprentice79]

9 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

On a related note, obviously this is way down the line given the filming schedule, but is Brandon Barash still filming as Stefan or did he just come in to fill the shoes long enough for them to get rid of the character?

He is still there.  I have no idea for how long. If he clicks with the writers and actors. He may stay, he will be the only Dimera on the show.

[Harmony233]

So abby is supposed to choke Gabi when Gabi vists her and admits to gaslighting her and Chad walks in on it.Abby is not that bright is she?shouldn't she be convincing peeps she isn't violent lol.

[Harmony233]

I know you guys are excited but it looks like KM is back the 29th.

[boes]

3 hours ago, Harmony233 said:

So abby is supposed to choke Gabi when Gabi vists her and admits to gaslighting her and Chad walks in on it.Abby is not that bright is she?shouldn't she be convincing peeps she isn't violent lol.

She should just slip Ben a fiver, he do it.

[Irlandesa]

14 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

I mean, didn't Eve say as much when she left, that she hated Jenn and would have her revenge one day?

I don't watch currently but that's what I've been reading.  However...it's also Ron.  So I'm not counting out anything. 

[TeeVee329]

11 hours ago, Tasha Brand said:

Actually, Brandon will be there permanently.  Tyler Christopher is not returning.

I was more curious if they'd use this RL situation to bail on the character altogether, if they had Brandon Barash come in just to finish the storyline (a la the return of KM to finish Abigail's story) and then they'd ship Stefan O. off the show.

[Chick2Chic]

 

Also, if you go to the twitter link, there's some interesting follow up about the story. 

 

[TeeVee329]

There is something delicious about this situation, that Gabi can freely brag to Abigail what she's done while also correctly pointing out that nobody will believe her* if she says anything given her current accomodations.

* Except Julie the Hernandez Hater, I guess.

[IWantCandy71]

The thing with Eve-if Charlotte Ross were back playing her, I wouldn't mind a Jennifer/Jack/Eve triangle. And I say that as someone who absolutely ADORED old school Jack and Jenn. I also happened to think Matt Ashford and Charlotte Ross had smoking chemistry. But we've got Kassie, so. IDK. She just isn't Eve to me-you can't just bring on an actor and have them say they are somebody. There has to be a semblance of that old person in there somewhere. I don't get "former prostitute" from KDP's portrayal at ALL. And yes-while a person can move on from things and be better-our past shapes us in some ways in to who we are and how we react, etc. KDP just basically playing a more jaded version of Blair Kramer doesn't interest me.

With that said, I'm not exactly sure how I would prefer the former prostitute past to be exhibited. For me, Lauren Koslow never forgets Kate's past-it's even in the way she walks across a room. I always get the feeling that if Kate ever totally and completely hit rock bottom in every way-I can see Kate being an escort or a madam or something like that . I can see her going back to her old life. I can't see that with KDP's Eve. She's just not a well rounded, layered character. But then Days has very few of those and always has been more about plot points and couples than developing individual characters.

Edited November 15, 2018 by IWantCandy71

[Apprentice79]

13 hours ago, IWantCandy71 said:

The thing with Eve-if Charlotte Ross were back playing her, I wouldn't mind a Jennifer/Jack/Eve triangle. And I say that as someone who absolutely ADORED old school Jack and Jenn. I also happened to think Matt Ashford and Charlotte Ross had smoking chemistry. But we've got Kassie, so. IDK. She just isn't Eve to me-you can't just bring on an actor and have them say they are somebody. There has to be a semblance of that old person in there somewhere. I don't get "former prostitute" from KDP's portrayal at ALL. And yes-while a person can move on from things and be better-our past shapes us in some ways in to who we are and how we react, etc. KDP just basically playing a more jaded version of Blair Kramer doesn't interest me.

With that said, I'm not exactly sure how I would prefer the former prostitute past to be exhibited. For me, Lauren Koslow never forgets Kate's past-it's even in the way she walks across a room. I always get the feeling that if Kate ever totally and completely hit rock bottom in every way-I can see Kate being an escort or a madam or something like that . I can see her going back to her old life. I can't see that with KDP's Eve. She's just not a well rounded, layered character. But then Days has very few of those and always has been more about plot points and couples than developing individual characters.

 

I love your post about Eve, both the original and the recast in Kassie.  

I love Lauren as Kate, but, Deborah Adair's Kate was so awesome.  She gave Kate an air of sophistication, worldliness mixed with pathos and intrigue. She can be a boss bitch, like when she stole Billie's company from her, shrewd and mysterious with Victor, then, she could be so tender, protective and loving with Lucas.  I can't see her Kate taking Lucas for granted, like Lauren's Kate has on occasion.  Furthermore, I can't see Deborah's Kate being a prostitute, it worked with Lauren's Kate. Kate started to become darker under JER, due to Vivian betraying their friendship and subsequent writers pushed her towards sociopathy.  I could see Deborah's Kate being more of the doctor that got with Bill. I could also see her being a gold digger using men to get by, after being treated like crap by Bill.  

Edited November 15, 2018 by Apprentice79

[IWantCandy71]

8 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

I love your post about Eve, both the original and the recast in Kassie.  

I love Lauren as Kate, but, Deborah Adair's Kate was so awesome.  She gave Kate an air of sophistication, worldliness mixed with pathos and intrigue. She can be a boss bitch, like when she stole Billie's company from her, shrewd and mysterious with Victor, then, she could be so tender, protective and loving with Lucas.  I can't see her Kate taking Lucas for granted, like Lauren's Kate has on occasion.  Furthermore, I can't see Deborah's Kate being a prostitute, it worked with Lauren's Kate. Kate started to become darker under JER, due to Vivian betraying their friendship and subsequent writers pushed her towards sociopathy.  I could see Deborah's Kate being more of the doctor that got with Bill. I could also see her being a gold digger using men to get by, after being treated like crap by Bill.  

Thanks ! The character of Eve was one of my first favorites on this show. And I loved Deborah Adair's Kate. It took me a good while to get used to Lauren's version, but I love LK's chemistry with the whole cast.

[BlackMamba]

Week of November 19

 

 

In the weekly Days Spoiler Video, Abigail chokes Gabi in a rage, as many gather for Thanksgiving.

 

Monday November 19:

 

Gabi gleefully admits to Abigail she’s been gaslighting her all along.

 

Ben exposes Tripp's deception to Ciara.

 

Tuesday November 20:

 

Paul shares an emotional goodbye with John and Brady before leaving Salem when Christopher Sean exits Days of our Lives.

 

An escort helps Paul travel to San Francisco when Chido Nwokocha appears on Days.

 

Abe receives stunning news from Valerie.

 

Wednesday November 21:

 

Adrienne and Justin are furious when Victor keeps Will from reuniting with Sonny.

 

Julie and Doug hold Thanksgiving dinner at Doug's Place.

 

 Thursday November 22:

 

Days of our Lives will not be seen today, due to the holiday.

 

 Friday November 23:

 

Days of our Lives will not be seen today.

 

[boes]

Julie hosts Thanksgiving at Doug's Place.....

Get ready for some ukulele playing, and I know I'm gonna wish Julie was as stuffed as the turkey.

Expect a liberal use of the word "Darling".

Doug is a saint.

[BlackMamba]

week of November  26:

 

Monday November 26:

 

Eric makes a decision about Holly.

 

Will and Sonny reunite but get a shocking surprise!

 

 Tuesday November 27:

 

Leo demands Sonny keep his promise to marry him.

 

Wednesday November 28:

 

Kate confronts Kayla about setting her up.

 

Thursday November 29:

 

Kate tells Roman she's got the goods on Stefan.

 

Friday November 30:

 

At Bayview, Abigail rips into Chad for betraying her.

[Harmony233]

I love that Leo and sonny spoiler.

[Petunia13]

On 11/8/2018 at 7:24 PM, WendyCR72 said:

I've seen Ron's crap on GH. And I call it crap, because it was. Nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade when called for. Ron likes camp, rape, and rape drenched in camp.

A Bill Bell or Agnes Nixon he is not. And never will be.

Yes he stunk up the whole network during that era ?? 

Julie and Doug will be singing their asses off at Thanksgiving gathering. Julie can be so extra. 

[AnswersWanted]

Go Leo go, heh.

I had no desire to root for him before but now I am all team Leo. I hope he brings plenty of devastation and heartache to the Blunder Twins, it’s the least they deserve. 

I just wish the marriage angle had been dropped. I’d much rather watch him openly torment them with the knowledge that he has enough dirt on them, proving they tried to cover up his ‘death’, that could land them in jail or worse.

I want a full on revenge arch. Let him be the male Gabi, hell bent on ruining their lives completely. But this is Ron’s creation so...just have to wait and see. 

Here’s hoping it won’t be boring at least. 

[TeeVee329]

I too love that Leo spoiler.  Not only is it cool to again see something classically soapy utilized with gay characters - schemer blackmails someone into marriage, and in fact that gay marriage can now be approached at different angles on soaps than just Pure, Perfect Love - but this also could be good for Will and Sonny.  Instead of the sad moping and martyr bragging they during this Paul situation, I think it'd be great if this spurned them into action, to figure out a way together to get Leo out of their lives.  And no running to Victor or Kate - I want these two to handle it themselves.  And then it could also be sexy fun if you see them sneaking around trying to be together behind Leo's back.

[boes]

My only objection, and for me it's a fatal one, is that Leo is portrayed by Greg Rikaart, an actor I just despise.  His Leo is pretty much the same as his Kevin was on Y+R and for me, that ain't good.

I'm pretty much alone in thinking Sonny is the best of the bunch and I'm not that crazy about him.  CM's Will reminds me of a character from Green Acres and bringing GR back ....... Oh Lord ......

Arnold Ziffell has more sex appeal than either of them .......

[peachmangosteen]

7 hours ago, boes said:

I'm pretty much alone in thinking Sonny is the best of the bunch and I'm not that crazy about him.

+1

I'm down for this story though. It could be fun. I do kinda wish it was someone else playing Leo, but I do get a kick out of Leo being portrayed as a young, hot stud with GR and all of his 41 years playing him. It's super hilarious!

Edited November 18, 2018 by peachmangosteen

[TeeVee329]

Leo's the most I've liked Greg Rikkart - I don't watch Y&R so my main association with him, as I've said before, was from when he played Jack's super boring boyfriend during the last season of "Dawson's Creek" - but yeah, them playing him as a peer of Will and Sonny's is pretty laughable.  I mean, when they made his primary motivation his student loans, it was impossible to ignore lol!

[AnswersWanted]

12 hours ago, boes said:

My only objection, and for me it's a fatal one, is that Leo is portrayed by Greg Rikaart, an actor I just despise.  His Leo is pretty much the same as his Kevin was on Y+R and for me, that ain't good.

I'm pretty much alone in thinking Sonny is the best of the bunch and I'm not that crazy about him.  CM's Will reminds me of a character from Green Acres and bringing GR back ....... Oh Lord ......

Arnold Ziffell has more sex appeal than either of them .......

 

My hope, silly as it may be, is that Greg's style of "acting" might not be as grating if Leo is written to be an all out bastard. His time on Y&R was...a lot, heh, back when I used to watch it over a decade ago.  

He generally makes me want to slap the smug look of self important off his face, so maybe that'll tie into Leo's quest for vengeance, he won't give a shit and go full out bad guy. 

I don't want to like him, I don't even want him to stick around as a regular character, I just want him to do a shit ton of damage that has lasting consequences, heh. 

I don't find Greg sexy, at all, but he's able to play gay, for obvious reasons, so he's comfortable in the role and I will give him that slight edge, but honestly this is not the hottie gay party in the slightest. 

Chandler plays Will like he has to self medicate before he can even kiss somebody, and if he has a sex scene without wearing at least three articles of clothing and a duvet it's rare.

I have always felt that he acts as if he needs to save Will's purity, I just don't get it. Will should have just followed his Uncle Eric into the monastery. 

I would much rather watch MBB, and Derrick, and maybe bring back Paul's stripper ex and make them all roommates or something.

I admit I am rather shallow when it comes to my soaps, heh, I preferably like someone pretty to look at if I have to buy a romance or love story, and...this show is really lacking that aspect for me, especially now that CS has exited. 

[TeeVee329]

Have we talked about the new promo: 

 

1) I personally love Gabi's unrepentant "Gotcha!" attitude in this clip.  And say what you will about Gabi being right or wrong or evil or justified or whatever, Camila Banus is KILLING this material.

2) But I also love that, instead of breaking down and weeping, like a Jessica Buchanan might have done, Abigail tears out of that bed and starts trying to choke the bitch.

[bobcat1946]

On 11/10/2018 at 10:26 PM, WendyCR72 said:

Yeah, exactly. Not a fan of either Gabi or Abby much, but the fact is, JJ is Abby's brother. Family. And "blood is thicker than water". I won't blame JJ if he hates Gabi after this stunt.

And, my UO, she will deserve all the hate coming her way.

No cares that evil Abigail messed with Gabi for months.  Poor Gabi not even her own brother cared.

Edited November 19, 2018 by bobcat1946

[Silver Raven]

I hope somebody catches Abigail choking her and sees it as a sign of her insanity.

[peachmangosteen]

8 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

I hope somebody catches Abigail choking her and sees it as a sign of her insanity.

I love this idea!

[TeeVee329]

Yeah, Abigail keeps doing herself no favors.

[howmanywords]

Next weeks promo..I know the Ben/Ciara kiss is meant to be the big moment for the week ("the one you've been waiting for") but, oh man! Leo is giving me life! "You look like you've seen a ghost" LOL! Will and Sonny all shook

[Petunia13]

That Days commercial is rather presumptuous. I don't think that's the show moment I've always been waiting for 😂

[enchantingmonkey]

4 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

That Days commercial is rather presumptuous. I don't think that's the show moment I've always been waiting for 😂

Not to mention that someone coming back from the dead is a "moment no one saw coming."

[WendyCR72]

I know this is a soap that had Sami temporarily played by a man (UGH!), had people with brain chips (hello, Hope/Gina!), and Marlena possessed by the devil, meaning tons of awful ridiculousness.

But while I know they do have a passionate fanbase, I just cannot get excited at Ciara macking on a freaking serial killer. I don't give a shit about his sad past or whatever. Some of the people he killed didn't do anything to this guy. I find it revolting he gets to be happy.

I realize this is very unpopular. And while her current incarnation rather sucks (I blame Rafe!), I wouldn't care if Hope pulled a Stefano with Ben and gave him a bullet for his trouble.

Ahhhhh, that felt good!

If the show wanted to keep this actor, it either should have never made Ben go that far or he should have had a twin.

[Harmony233]

I'm looking forward to Leo antics although I find Wilson so boring.

Edited November 23, 2018 by Harmony233

[WendyCR72]

32 minutes ago, Tasha Brand said:

Good for you.

It's still happening, though.

Yes, it is. And everyone is also allowed to be happy - or not - about it. You're happy. I'm not. All good.

[nilyank]

2 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

But while I know they do have a passionate fanbase, I just cannot get excited at Ciara macking on a freaking serial killer. I don't give a shit about his sad past or whatever. Some of the people he killed didn't do anything to this guy. I find it revolting he gets to be happy.

 

None of the people that he killed did anything to him. They were were all collateral damage that he killed in his quest to frame Chad.

[Petunia13]

Ben having a twin would have been the intelligent way to play it to keep the actor but still have the angst of living with a bad reputation due to his brother's actions and their resemblance. Also I sorta think they only smushed Ciara and Ben together because they're both pretty and brunette. 

[Harmony233]

I like cin but a part of me is rooting for them because it makes hope miserable I've never liked her and thought bo was way too good for her.

[superdeluxe]

3 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

I know this is a soap that had Sami temporarily played by a man (UGH!), had people with brain chips (hello, Hope/Gina!), and Marlena possessed by the devil, meaning tons of awful ridiculousness.

But while I know they do have a passionate fanbase, I just cannot get excited at Ciara macking on a freaking serial killer. I don't give a shit about his sad past or whatever. Some of the people he killed didn't do anything to this guy. I find it revolting he gets to be happy.

I realize this is very unpopular. And while her current incarnation rather sucks (I blame Rafe!), I wouldn't care if Hope pulled a Stefano with Ben and gave him a bullet for his trouble.

Ahhhhh, that felt good!

If the show wanted to keep this actor, it either should have never made Ben go that far or he should have had a twin.

You’ve raised two questions — why do they have such a passionate fanbase?  And why does he get to be happy?  He’s a serial killer.