S12.E01: "The Great DIvide"

[FozzyBear]

37 minutes ago, VedaPierce said:

Absolutely agree 100%! Was going to post the same thing. Brianna is back in OC because Brianna wants to be back in OC. That's the plain truth. Every other reason she/they have given is BS. 

Ever notice that the only person who talks more about how she "works" then Vicki is Brianna? I work! I'm a nurse! I just got off a 12 hour shift! I save lives! Got it, Brianna. 

[sasha206]

On 7/12/2017 at 9:12 AM, Normades said:

Her mom was lonely??  What about her husband? What about her children who surely miss their father? WOW!  Vicki's needs come before anyone else's.  Plus, she hated Oklahoma? Well, she married a Marine, so you have to go where they send you.  I'm sure many wives and families of servicemen do not love where they are sent, but they do what must be done.  Seriously, suck it up, buttercup!

Agreed.

Doesn't Brianna get a Bravo paycheck?  If so I'm sure that was the prevailing factor.  

[Mindthinkr]

I'm confused. I've always thought that Brianna never wanted her mother to remarry after losing so much in her last divorce. Why was she seemingly encouraging Vicki to think about marriage with her new beau? 

[sasha206]

12 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

I'm confused. I've always thought that Brianna never wanted her mother to remarry after losing so much in her last divorce. Why was she seemingly encouraging Vicki to think about marriage with her new beau? 

I vote for a storyline.

[esco1822]

My goodness this show has gotten really difficult to watch. Add me to this missing Heather camp. Maybe she just seemed less vile in comparison to everyone else on this show but I genuinely enjoyed her even though I knew she didn't fit in that group. I especially enjoyed her friendship with Shannon after they got over their hiccups. I certainly hope Terry didn't cheat, I never root for that, even for my own entertainment and i'm a total a-hole. 

I'm pretty sure i'll always choose Tamra/Shannon over Kellie/Vicki. The "poplular girls" are just vile and guess what? If you have to label yourselves as such, you're probably not. 

I have a hard time with Shannon. I also didn't care for her after the first season but warmed up to her her 2nd season and really got to a point of enjoying her.  I think she's fun and funny in addition to being totally weird about crystals, alternative medicine and whatnot. I'm so sad to see her in her current condition. I agree, after the cheating came out, she should have quit the show but I do admire her wanting to actually be real on a reality show and start a narrative that being rich and on tv doesn't mean life is perfect. I think the weight gain leaves me with similar feelings except with the addition of a massive amount of sympathy. It has nothing to do with how much she does in a given day or how much help she has, sometimes a person just can't get themselves to exercise and get on a healthy and realistic eating plan. If you disagree you probably haven't been there yourself. Much like drug and alcohol addiction, you won't try to lose the weight until you are ready. You need to have something click in your head. I've been there/am there. I get it and I hope she has the click sooner rather than later.  I think I'd really enjoy watching her battle her way back and regain her happiness but I'm also realistic to know she's also going to need massive amounts of therapy to get there.  That could also be part of the problem. She may be in therapy going through the worst of it and having all of these terrible self-defeating feelings. When you're in that place, it's difficult to find the motivation to do anything let alone go work out. Just a little perspective...

[MatildaMoody]

Is there going to be a recap of this episode on this site? I live for those recaps.

[mittsigirl]

18 hours ago, Avon.Blakes7 said:

Congrats! I'm not that disciplined, but acting better! I just made my own little Chinese pork dish! Store had some sliced pieces of pork, used some frozen brown rice, onion, garlic, & peas in teriyaki sauce; it was great! I haven't eaten rice in weeks! At my age, just doing it piecemeal and just cutting portions, avoiding anything after dinner & dessert even though up rather late or early in the morning, I lose fairly easily since it's just bloat, not fat! So far I have had the discipline and have taken off 15+ in just 3 weeks! Good luck with yours! 

Good for you! The hard part is late-night snacking, because I am a real night owl, sometimes up until 3 a.m.! You are so lucky to have more bloat than fat-I am the opposite, more fat than bloat!

Keep it up, you are doing so well:)

[nexxie]

1 hour ago, Mindthinkr said:

I'm confused. I've always thought that Brianna never wanted her mother to remarry after losing so much in her last divorce. Why was she seemingly encouraging Vicki to think about marriage with her new beau? 

Probably because Brianna doesn't want to be stuck with an aging narcissistic mother.

[mittsigirl]

On 12/07/2017 at 10:46 AM, HunterHunted said:

My sister in law told me that she never woke up for a single night time feeding or diaper change for any of their three kids. My brother did them all. They figured out really early after the first kid was born that she couldn't do it. She pumped a ton. She also said that she never slept through her pager; she was doing her medical residency at the time.

Who knows. Jim does the diaper changes. Maybe Megan pumps.

Gee, my husband does not ever remember having our 3 babies! So you can figure out who did everything!

[mittsigirl]

19 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

I love my mother. She's probably one of the most interesting people I've ever known, but she has this bad habit when she's with friends of drinking a bit too much and bitching that her kids don't appreciate her or think she was a bad mother. In truth, we could probably be more appreciative of everything she and my father have done for us. However, she has this false narrative of what our complaints were. She'll loudly complain that we have issues with her because she made us take piano or eat our vegetables. When the issues we had were that she and my dad went to Hawaii for almost 2 weeks and put me in charge over my 18, 10, and 6 year old brothers when I was 12. There were no issues with my 18 year old brother; he was an 18 year old dumbass and I was more responsible. They were also having issues with some of their tenants and in the early stages of litigation with one of my dad's brothers. They did similar trips throughout our childhoods, like a six week trip through Europe when I was 15 and we were on our own the entire time.

So my mom will bring this stuff up and act like we're mad because of vegetables instead of the things they actually did wrong. And I will read her for filth when she starts that nonsense because she needs the sting of embarrassment to stop pulling this nonsense. I don't want to make our family business public. I don't start it, but I will finish it. They just put far too much on us and seem to have forgotten that.

I get a similar sense with Brianna and Vicki. She knew about Vicki's affair with Brooks for awhile. I get the feeling that she's been Vicki's confidant for a very long time. She's one of the few people who can call Vicki on her shit, which means that she'll have to out Vicki's nonsense publicly on occasion in order to keep Vicki in line.

I am curious, but you don't need to answer if you don't want to-

after so much responsibility at such a young age, did you have children of your own? 

[mittsigirl]

18 hours ago, notnowimbusy said:

I speak w/my SIL at least twice a week, but because of distance we don't see each other very often.  So, not having seen her for five years, we finally got together, and OMG I was shocked.  She had gained so much weight she was almost unrecognizable.  Her face/upper body reminded me of Shannon.   Her's had to do with medications, hormones, and eating.   It was really hard to see like that, but she seemed very comfortable with herself - unlike Shannon.   Over the years she tried some pretty darn drastic dieting, pills, programs - and recently she's lost 50lbs.   Once she said to me she knows she will never get down to where she was when she was in her 20/30's, but she now just wants to be healthy.   Shannon has a long road in front of her.   Trying to get your 20's body back when you're 50 is a major challenge. 

She did great to lose that 50 pounds! I am not looking to get to any certain size, but I am 57, and know that as you get older, the weight gets harder to take off. Belly fat is menopausal, but it also comes from being stressed out. I have done tons of research, and for me, drinking my morning tonic really helps with the belly fat. It has to be what works best for YOUR BODY, not someone else's body, though there are many little tricks that work for all of us. I really want to start a blog to help other women my age, but sadly, I just don't have the self-confidence I need to do it:(

[HunterHunted]

18 minutes ago, mittsigirl said:

I am curious, but you don't need to answer if you don't want to-

after so much responsibility at such a young age, did you have children of your own? 

Nope. No kids of my own. I'm in my late 30s, so I guess I might be able to have kids if I really felt like it. All of my siblings who have kids waited until they were well over 30 to start having kids, though we all have graduate degrees too. Everyone waited until they finished school before they got married and started having kids. However, I'm the only girl. Every brother except one has kids.

I suspect my parents were comfortable leaving us on our own because my parents are immigrants and it wasn't unusual in their home country to have a 12 year old working or running a household. However, it was very unusual in the US. The two things that were the most difficult were getting groceries because we did not have access to the car when my folks were gone and paying bills. I have such weird trauma about writing cheques.

Edited July 13, 2017 by HunterHunted

[mittsigirl]

3 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

Nope. No kids of my own. I'm in my late 30s, so I guess I might be able to have kids if I really felt like it. All of my siblings who have kids waited until they were well over 30 to start having kids, though we all have graduate degrees too. Everyone waited until they finished school before they got married and started having kids.

I suspect my parents were comfortable leaving us on our own because my parents are immigrants and it wasn't unusual in their home country to have a 12 year old working or running a household. However, it was very unusual in the US. The two things that were the most difficult were getting groceries because we did not have access to the car when my folks were gone and paying bills. I have such weird trauma about writing cheques.

Sounds like all of you turned out really great! I understand more now that you say your parents were immigrants, kids are not so coddled in some other countries. 

[HunterHunted]

2 minutes ago, mittsigirl said:

Sounds like all of you turned out really great! I understand more now that you say your parents were immigrants, kids are not so coddled in some other countries. 

My sister-in-law, the one who didn't wake up for the night feedings of her kids, emigrated from the same country in which my parents were born. She came over at 8 years old. Her parents were so hands off that they were surprised when they found out where their kids were going to college even though my sister-in-law's father is a university professor. Luckily it was Ivy League universities with academic scholarships. My sister-in-law told me that the first time her parents asked about where she was going to college was at her high school graduation. Her response was "Yale. I have a full scholarship."

[Natalie68]

19 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

I love my mother. She's probably one of the most interesting people I've ever known, but she has this bad habit when she's with friends of drinking a bit too much and bitching that her kids don't appreciate her or think she was a bad mother. In truth, we could probably be more appreciative of everything she and my father have done for us. However, she has this false narrative of what our complaints were. She'll loudly complain that we have issues with her because she made us take piano or eat our vegetables. When the issues we had were that she and my dad went to Hawaii for almost 2 weeks and put me in charge over my 18, 10, and 6 year old brothers when I was 12. There were no issues with my 18 year old brother; he was an 18 year old dumbass and I was more responsible. They were also having issues with some of their tenants and in the early stages of litigation with one of my dad's brothers. They did similar trips throughout our childhoods, like a six week trip through Europe when I was 15 and we were on our own the entire time.

So my mom will bring this stuff up and act like we're mad because of vegetables instead of the things they actually did wrong. And I will read her for filth when she starts that nonsense because she needs the sting of embarrassment to stop pulling this nonsense. I don't want to make our family business public. I don't start it, but I will finish it. They just put far too much on us and seem to have forgotten that.

I get a similar sense with Brianna and Vicki. She knew about Vicki's affair with Brooks for awhile. I get the feeling that she's been Vicki's confidant for a very long time. She's one of the few people who can call Vicki on her shit, which means that she'll have to out Vicki's nonsense publicly on occasion in order to keep Vicki in line.

Kid of the 70's?  My oldest sister was always left in charge of us when our parents went on vacation.  Probably how she decided she didn't want kids. 

I predict Brianna and Vicki will always have this weird co dependent relationship.  I don't like either but if forced to either choose one of dive in front of a moving train I will choose Brianna.  

[Natalie68]

1 hour ago, nexxie said:

Probably because Brianna doesn't want to be stuck with an aging narcissistic mother.

Well considering Michael will mos def not give his address to Vicki as she gets older and Steve might just do one political scam too many and get run out of dodge Brianna it is!  Good luck with that.  Senior Vicki will make her mother the Harley trasher look like Mother Teresa.

32 minutes ago, mittsigirl said:

She did great to lose that 50 pounds! I am not looking to get to any certain size, but I am 57, and know that as you get older, the weight gets harder to take off. Belly fat is menopausal, but it also comes from being stressed out. I have done tons of research, and for me, drinking my morning tonic really helps with the belly fat. It has to be what works best for YOUR BODY, not someone else's body, though there are many little tricks that work for all of us. I really want to start a blog to help other women my age, but sadly, I just don't have the self-confidence I need to do it:(

What is this of which you speak?  Asking for a friend...:)

[HunterHunted]

3 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

Kid of the 70's?  My oldest sister was always left in charge of us when our parents went on vacation.  Probably how she decided she didn't want kids. 

I predict Brianna and Vicki will always have this weird co dependent relationship.  I don't like either but if forced to either choose one of dive in front of a moving train I will choose Brianna.  

There is definitely a difference between how people raised kids in the 70s and even the 80s. I was born at the end of the 70s. 

I find Vicki and her children so interesting. Michael is clearly a runner. He bolted. You can tell he screens his phone calls and will never let Vicki near his home or his life. You can tell that Ryan was Brianna's attempt to purposely alienate Vicki and put some distance between them. Unfortunately, Vicki doubled down on Brooks and refused to keep him out of Brianna's life. Vicki with Brooks was such a catastrophe that Brianna couldn't stop herself from getting involved in Vicki's nonsense again.

[chenoa333]

I think I'm going to start sending the Bravo producers a bill for wasting my time. This season premier episode was just awful. I already can't stand Lydia (who bears a striking resemblance to Bugs Bunny) and her "friendship whisperer" act. And we already know Tamra is going to sob her eyes out all season because of her broken relationship with her daughter. But Bravo better not film another nano second ever again, of "bible study". So f'n stupid. 

[MatildaMoody]

I liked Lydia her first season because she didn't put up with Heather's condescension or Slade's gross behavior. Since the premiere is usually just an introduction to the players, I thought it was a pretty good way to start the season. I read somewhere that Alexis and Lydia are still friends, so maybe Lydia can convince Tamra to apologize for the absolutely loathsome way she treated her. 

If Tamra really wants to prove that she changed, I would say apologizing for trying to destroy someone who never did a single thing to her would go a long way towards proving that. But it's Tamra. At this point, I'm just surprised she hasn't spontaneously burst into flames when she attended the bible study. I mean, I at least expected the bible to scorch her hand the way a vampire's would in the sun. 

[LilaFowler]

Personally, I will never believe that the Jesus stuff is real with Tamra. She was close to being fired/downgraded and needed a story line. She's still using it. She's the same drunk wasted, manipulative, shit-stirring jerk that she's always been. 

[ITALIA]

3 hours ago, chenoa333 said:

I think I'm going to start sending the Bravo producers a bill for wasting my time. This season premier episode was just awful. I already can't stand Lydia (who bears a striking resemblance to Bugs Bunny) and her "friendship whisperer" act. And we already know Tamra is going to sob her eyes out all season because of her broken relationship with her daughter. But Bravo better not film another nano second ever again, of "bible study". So f'n stupid. 

PERFECT description of Lydia.

[ITALIA]

Note to Vicki Icki aka MISS PIGGY - no matter how much PS you've had, you're STILL ugly and unattractive inside and outside, and a LOSER beyotch and a MEAN girl.

Note to Shannon - you're FAT, you're husband is a LOSER, and he's NOT interested in you - not surprising.

Note to Tamra - you're a MAJOR PHONY and REALLY dumb.

Note to Kelly - you're a LOSER, and your husband is a zero.

Note to Brianna - your husband is a LOSER.

Note to Lydia - you look like Bugs Bunny and are CLUELESS.

[Mu Shu]

5 hours ago, nexxie said:

Probably because Brianna doesn't want to be stuck with an aging narcissistic mother.

Probably because Brianna likes the goodies being in close proximity to Vicki brings her.   Since Vicki laser focuses on the men in her life, Bri can be ignored byVicki and still get stuff.  It's a good plan.

[chenoa333]

1 hour ago, ITALIA said:

Note to Vicki Icki aka MISS PIGGY - no matter how much PS you've had, you're STILL ugly and unattractive inside and outside, and a LOSER beyotch and a MEAN girl.

Note to Shannon - you're FAT, you're husband is a LOSER, and he's NOT interested in you - not surprising.

Note to Tamra - you're a MAJOR PHONY and REALLY dumb.

Note to Kelly - you're a LOSER, and your husband is a zero.

Note to Brianna - your husband is a LOSER.

Note to Lydia - you look like Bugs Bunny and are CLUELESS.

Can I get an Amen and a Hallelujah! Lol!

[mittsigirl]

7 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

Well considering Michael will mos def not give his address to Vicki as she gets older and Steve might just do one political scam too many and get run out of dodge Brianna it is!  Good luck with that.  Senior Vicki will make her mother the Harley trasher look like Mother Teresa.

What is this of which you speak?  Asking for a friend...:)

I sent you a message, because it is so off-topic, it is all in there:)

[MatildaMoody]

11 hours ago, ITALIA said:

Note to Lydia - you look like Bugs Bunny and are CLUELESS.

I don't see the Bugs Bunny thing. To me, Lydia looks like she would fit right in with The Littles.

 

[zoeysmom]

18 hours ago, MatildaMoody said:

Is there going to be a recap of this episode on this site? I live for those recaps.

Maybe this will work as a substitute re-cap.  There are some very funny passages, some very unPC funny passages.  https://www.trashtalktv.com/07/12/rhoc-season-12-premier-jesus-is-the-7th-housewife/413476/

[MatildaMoody]

1 hour ago, zoeysmom said:

Maybe this will work as a substitute re-cap.  There are some very funny passages, some very unPC funny passages.  https://www.trashtalktv.com/07/12/rhoc-season-12-premier-jesus-is-the-7th-housewife/413476/

 

Yeah, TrashTalk is already in my recap rotation. I used to write for that site so I check it religiously. But, I like to compare the TrashTalk, Vulture, and Previously.tv recaps each week. I also try to read TamaraTattles, but she sometimes comes across as a bit unhinged in her hatred for certain housewives - especially if she feels they personally slighted her by denying something she printed as gospel.

[Emmeline]

On 7/12/2017 at 11:43 AM, Juliegirlj said:

Shannon has balls to show that gut on tv... I gained a bit of weight when I entered into menopause and it is very difficult to lose it. I did everything I could to hide it. Shannon seems to have some depression and self loathing going on. I predict her marriage will end when their kids leave  home.

I completely agree with you about their marriage.  Shannon said that after the wonderful vow renewal (kiss of death) her husband started to pull away.  Something more is going on that has nothing to do with Vickie's comment about abuse.  Now they are out of their environmentally built house and in a rental.  For them to start building or refurbishing a new home seems like a pointless farce.  So Shannon it already accomplishing 2 of the 3 most difficult things in life, moving and divorce.  No wonder she's gained that weight.  She need to go to therapy and get herself together for the girls.

[oakville]

15 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

Probably because Brianna likes the goodies being in close proximity to Vicki brings her.   Since Vicki laser focuses on the men in her life, Bri can be ignored byVicki and still get stuff.  It's a good plan.

I could see Brianna wanting to be close to her mom. It is easier to raise the kids with help. Its weird that Ryan can't transfer to a base in San Diego. If he has medical issues, he probably isn't working.

[nexxie]

16 hours ago, LilaFowler said:

Personally, I will never believe that the Jesus stuff is real with Tamra. She was close to being fired/downgraded and needed a story line. She's still using it. She's the same drunk wasted, manipulative, shit-stirring jerk that she's always been. 

Religious groups are always home to both predator and prey - Tamra may have found an easy source of narcissistic supply in the Jesus world.

[Natalie68]

13 hours ago, mittsigirl said:

I sent you a message, because it is so off-topic, it is all in there:)

Thank you!!!

[zoeysmom]

1 hour ago, MatildaMoody said:

Yeah, TrashTalk is already in my recap rotation. I used to write for that site so I check it religiously. But, I like to compare the TrashTalk, Vulture, and Previously.tv recaps each week. I also try to read TamaraTattles, but she sometimes comes across as a bit unhinged in her hatred for certain housewives - especially if she feels they personally slighted her by denying something she printed as gospel.

I forgot about your connection.  I do believe Trash Talk won the recap lottery this week with the OC recap.  Vulture was good, but the Trash Talk TV writer had some great lines and pics.  I am on west coast feed so I usually read the recaps before I see the show and often times it seems Tamra sacrifices speed for accuracy and I would agree gets testy when someone disagrees with her.

[nexxie]

Just watched this episode again and caught Meghan's comment about Aspen being  "a dolly" - ugh! Already commented on the godawful headband causing headaches, but hearing that this baby is expected to be a dolly for her mother and endure pain for beauty really made me sick - and I was thinking the Aspen scenes would be my favorite this season!

[ButterQueen]

On 7/10/2017 at 1:41 PM, ryebread said:

Because this trailer makes it seem like these 'ladies' are really calling on the Lord this season, I'd just like to ask the Baby Jesus to help them stop screaming and throwing shit while at the table.  Amen.

 

Lydia looks horrible in this pic.

[Snarky McSnarky]

[ButterQueen]

On 7/11/2017 at 9:52 AM, Normades said:

Me too!  And it must drive Shannon crazy that David looks to be in good shape while she is not.  I'm no skinny mini, but I agree with the poster above who felt it was some sort of karma to have gained weight after making disparaging remarks about mid-western women.  That'll teach you Shannon!

I think it's menopause.  I gained 20 pounds in a 3 month period, and it took a year to get it off.  With all of the menopausal side effects, gaining weight was just the straw that broke the camel's back....and I have a very supportive husband who denied I was getting heavier.  Shannon is an "eeyore", and it bugs me, but I do feel bad for everything she is going through.  Would not be my choice to display it on TV if I had their money though.

[ButterQueen]

On 7/12/2017 at 8:33 AM, VedaPierce said:

Beautiful etching but this is why I find Heather so insufferable..."look carefully for the 4 birds...."  Ugh. Does she have to phrase it like that? She really is so enamored with herself, isn't she? Yes all you pleebs, let's all gather round Heather's very important architectural world contribution and "look carefully" for her very unusual and clever little bird nest! And her grandma, the bee. She's no Anne Boleyn. And if I want to look at a Seek n Find picture, I'll dig up an old Highlights. 

????

[ScoobieDoobs]

Idk, 10 minutes of Meghan cooing to her baby, & Asshole Jimmy is now a nice guy & doting father?  This is the show now?  I'm almost missing Heather & Terry & their never-ending snotty updates on their bed & breakfast inn.  Almost, but not quite.

Why the fuck should I care that con woman Vicks is expanding her business?  

Not sure I can quit this show after watching for 10 years, but what's here to watch anymore?

[ButterQueen]

23 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

Nope. No kids of my own. I'm in my late 30s, so I guess I might be able to have kids if I really felt like it. All of my siblings who have kids waited until they were well over 30 to start having kids, though we all have graduate degrees too. Everyone waited until they finished school before they got married and started having kids. However, I'm the only girl. Every brother except one has kids.

I suspect my parents were comfortable leaving us on our own because my parents are immigrants and it wasn't unusual in their home country to have a 12 year old working or running a household. However, it was very unusual in the US. The two things that were the most difficult were getting groceries because we did not have access to the car when my folks were gone and paying bills. I have such weird trauma about writing cheques.

You have every right to be upset, that was horrible.  No relative or family friend to help you out?

[chenoa333]

Shannon.....what an insufferable bitch! Getting in a tiff with David over his response to how her quinoa tasted? He said it was "good" Shannon. And THAT is giving quinoa a lot more credit than it deserves. Why are you making your husband eat food he doesn't like (and doesn't even know what it is you're serving!) David is probably salivating for a good steak and potatoes dinner. But he gets quinoa because YOU need to lose weight. Shannon is a bitch....no matter what she weighs.

Edited July 14, 2017 by chenoa333

[Hockey Addict]

Vicky doesn't like being a con woman? Ok. Con woman, con woman, con woman, con woman.

[chenoa333]

On 7/10/2017 at 6:24 PM, StevieRocks said:

That dirty pig/succubus, Trailer Park Tamra, just said she "prays for Kelly." She's too illiterate and dumb to realize that she sounds like a hypocritical Pharisee. Now she's 'crying' with no tears, as usual. That is one trashy ape. 

StevieRocks... I wish I could give you a hundred likes for this. but so far you have 22. That's impressive and that also speaks volumes about how many Tamra haters watch RHOC. I LOVE "dirty pig/succubus". Lol! You truly DO rock Stevie!

[Hockey Addict]

Why does everyone in kelly's house sound rehearsed?

[ghoulina]

2 hours ago, chenoa333 said:

Shannon.....what an insufferable bitch! Getting in a tiff with David over his response to how her quinoa tasted? He said it was "good" Shannon. And THAT is giving quinoa a lot more credit than it deserves. Why are you making your husband eat food he doesn't like (and doesn't even know what it is you're serving!) David is probably salivating for a good steak and potatoes dinner. But he gets quinoa because YOU need to lose weight. Shannon is a bitch....no matter what she weighs.

I thought he actually said it was "fine"? But yea, he basically told her - "It's QUINOA. It's never going to be amazing". I'm sure it's hard when one person in the house wants to radically change how they're eating and other people aren't on board. But whenever I've seen David try to be helpful, she always snaps at him. 

[Emmeline]

On 7/13/2017 at 4:00 PM, mittsigirl said:

She did great to lose that 50 pounds! I am not looking to get to any certain size, but I am 57, and know that as you get older, the weight gets harder to take off. Belly fat is menopausal, but it also comes from being stressed out. I have done tons of research, and for me, drinking my morning tonic really helps with the belly fat. It has to be what works best for YOUR BODY, not someone else's body, though there are many little tricks that work for all of us. I really want to start a blog to help other women my age, but sadly, I just don't have the self-confidence I need to do it:(

You can do it!  I would read.  People love somewhere to go for support and encouragement!

[chenoa333]

4 hours ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

You're amazing SnarkyMcSnark! I didn't know Lydia had a twin! HeeHee!

[nexxie]

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Edited July 15, 2017 by nexxie

[film noire]

On 7/13/2017 at 5:00 PM, mittsigirl said:

but sadly, I just don't have the self-confidence I need to do it:(

Oh, but do it anyway -- after the first several posts, your confidence will grow and pretty soon you'll look back and wonder, "Why did this ever seem scary to me?" 

[ITALIA]

5 hours ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

PERFECT - you nailed it!!!