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7 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Then again Todd needs a new buddy-these women keep chasing the men folk off. ;-)

Kroy's not trying to hang with the Negroes.  That's why Kim left the first time around.

 

1 hour ago, HalbornScorpio said:

I cannot take any more of Kenya's little miss perfect routine. It is so annoying! Will this trick ever own up to doing anything wrong?? And don't get me started on Kandi! The two of those boring victims deserve each other. They are innocent, perfect people who have never and will never do anything wrong. If they ever do anything questionable there is ALWAYS a justification for it. They both need psychiatric help.

Kandi is pretty open and pretty much owns her shit.  In fact, Kandi owning her shit is why she and Phaedra aren't friends today. That's why I believe Kandi over Frick & Frack over the Shamea/Porsha/Drugs/Sex Dungeon stories because when Kandi is confronted about some lurid sex situation she's been in, she admits to it and keeps it moving. (Did you sleep with Jermaine Dupri? (accusatory tone) / Kandi: Yeah, I was curious so yeah I slept with him. #shrug).

That Condo/Townhouse read was so stupid. I think Phaedra was trying to say Kenya was like an apartment that converted to a condo/townhouse but that's stupid because when an apartment converts to a condo/townhouse that usually means people are BUYING the unit, not temporarily living in it.  Creonta accidentally upgraded Kenya trying to be clever and witty.  Sad.

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22 minutes ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

This is the other thing I came to say.  Phaedra's probably tied for tops of my least favorite but she used hearsay accurately.  It's introducing the first hand account of a person who was a party to a conversation, you yourself were not a party to or introducing their testimony without them being present to testify themselves, but whose information you're relying upon and attempting to report as true.   I mean she's Matlocking for no damn reason, but she used the term correctly.  I don't remember what she was talking about specifically but Kandi said I know you said such and such because so and so said you did.   I don't believe her, but Phaedra's right to say you can't say what so and so said was true because you weren't a party to that conversation. 

Except that none of them were in a courtroom trying to assert the truth of any of the statements being made so tossing around "hearsay" was useless, stupid, and a lazy attempt to make herself sound smarter than everyone else because she's a lawyer. It's not just the word that matters, it's the context. And since hearsay doesn't have any application outside of a legal proceeding, she made herself sound dumb by using it in the setting of a reality show reunion. This is the same heifer who told Sheree that Kandi was sleeping with Shamea without having Kandi or Shamea there to substantiate it, so she can miss me with using "hearsay" to deflect every accusation made against her.

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12 minutes ago, KenyaJ said:

Except that none of them were in a courtroom trying to assert the truth of any of the statements being made so tossing around "hearsay" was useless, stupid, and a lazy attempt to make herself sound smarter than everyone else because she's a lawyer. It's not just the word that matters, it's the context. And since hearsay doesn't have any application outside of a legal proceeding, she made herself sound dumb by using it in the setting of a reality show reunion. This is the same heifer who told Sheree that Kandi was sleeping with Shamea without having Kandi or Shamea there to substantiate it, so she can miss me with using "hearsay" to deflect every accusation made against her.

Mmhm I agree.  The original objection wasn't that it was out of context it was that she was using it incorrectly.   It's what made me say she was Matlocking for no damn reason.  ;-)

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It's no wonder nothing between these women is ever settled.  None of them can shutup long enough to hear what the other is saying.  I don't even care to listen to it anymore and when Kandi starts yelling and talking over someone while they're talking and yelling over her, I fast forward through it.  Whatever they're arguing about is so fucking petty I don't even care to try and pick out who's saying what so I can decide which side to take.

They all desperately need a therapist who can step in and say "Alright, you shutup while she's talking and listen and THEN you respond to what she said."  They're all so conditioned to defending themselves before the other person has even finished speaking that it's ridiculous to try and discuss anything.

And then you have people like Kenya who doesn't hear a damn thing anyone says while she sits there with her smug little smile concocting the burn she's gonna lay on someone as soon as they're done talking.

Every single one of them is what they claim the others to be.  None of them own their shit.  None of them have been any more hurt than anyone else but it's all some stupid competition for whose been wronged the most and I'm so tired of it.

The minute other people stop propping others up for "reading" someone is the day I'll be a happy girl.  Read or no read, when you're fucking rude you should be told you are.  Not given kudos for it.  

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14 hours ago, mothmonsterman said:

Thank you for tuning in to this week's episode of "Ain't Shit Happen."  Be sure to tune in next week for another show. Then join us the week after that for "Maybe Shit Will Happen."

There was no reason to stretch out this Reunion show into 4 parts..

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13 hours ago, Ubiquitous said:

I suspect that was Pharisee Phaedra's clever way of putting down or dismissing people's claims, ie, "Oh, that's just hearsay about me encouraging Johnny to sue Kandi!".

Pharisee Phaedra , this kills me.. Lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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2 hours ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

RealReality beat me to it, I was finna say because as physically intimidating as she may or may not find Matt, it was lil ole Porsha who's laid hands on Kenya.   And Cynthia.   And Jamie.    Yup, I do remember him smacking the limo driver.  That's not to be ignored, but we're talking about why Kenya has reason to be more fearful of Porsha than Matt.    The Petty LaBelle in me sort of loved when Porsha said she'd apologized to each of Cynthia and Kenya for her actions.  Baby who?  Before the footage came up I told the tv:  no you did not.  Then Phaedra acknowledged my outburst by whispering to Porsha under her clothes:  will you please just apologize now for the record.  Then Porsha saying it's on camera.   Then BravoTeamPetty rolling the tape of her not saying sorry to Kenya.   Nah girl.

I've turned a corner.  I won't say I like her, because I've gotta also trust you to like you.   I will say that I'm more convinced now than I ever have been that she's playing a character and yes, that character is the mustache twirling Cruella de Moore.   Either that, or her ability to hold and nurse a grudge is fading.  Because three times now, I've witnessed her console someone she was in vehement disagreement with all season long and just moments before.   In the van ride, she hugged Sheree, who she'd been having that silly whose Mcmansion is finishedest word-war with for months.  A couple seasons ago she got up and hugged Nene after the my mom wasn't shit breakdown and last night when Sheree finished telling her story, she was the only one to get up and go to her.    I'm not sure if it says something about someone that they're able to convince me so thoroughly that they're a believable asshole or that it says something about me that I can't spot for the act it is, but either way, what I will say is I like that she can put aside tv shenanigenery for bigger picture real empathy.   I think.  lol.

This is the other thing I came to say.  Phaedra's probably tied for tops of my least favorite but she used hearsay accurately.  It's introducing the first hand account of a person who was a party to a conversation, you yourself were not a party to or introducing their testimony without them being present to testify themselves, but whose information you're relying upon and attempting to report as true.   I mean she's Matlocking for no damn reason, but she used the term correctly.  I don't remember what she was talking about specifically but Kandi said I know you said such and such because so and so said you did.   I don't believe her, but Phaedra's right to say you can't say what so and so said was true because you weren't a party to that conversation.  Oh! yeah yeah yeah you guys, the whole Drama thing showing up at Phaedras office and the following dumbass conversation about the difference between security and bodyguard.    When she asked them all well don't ya'll travel with security and they all said no, I laughed a little.   

Please shutup and keep talking!

Yassss Mrs. Debra Allen Nixon.   Werk, witcha piece of ole nasty wash and set!  Because fame costs....and right here is where you start paying.   

Moment of silence on tivo.   I struggled for about a minute while I tried to figure out what she meant.   Does nobody want a townhouse?  Is that not a come up from a condo?  Aren't they both kind of nice?  Don't both mean you own not rent?   It seemed like a natural place to stop and go get some rice pudding.  If anyone has anymore input on how the hell this could possibly be an insult please come back and share.    I just don't know.  It's clunky as fuck.

Phaedra:  I have something for you Andy

Andy:  oh attorney Parks some evidence for the court

Phaedra:  yes my final divorce decree

Andy:  {reads papers} then:  but with this and your pregnancy due date, you can kinda see how everybody would be a little confused by your timelines

Phaedra:  I don't feel the need to share information with anyone except my real friends

'damo:  then. don't. say. shit.   lyin ass heffa. 

p.s.  I'm not sure if I like it or hate it but Andy pressing Kenya to admit to parking lot sex.  Hee Hee.

 

Kenya clearly was not counting on Matt to let out her secret  "sexual romp" in the backseat of his truck . Now I understand why Matt's sister was being so protective of him, she knew Matt could not handle this.

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9 hours ago, RealReality said:

I think every reality show like this needs a shit stirring villain and provocateur.  And I'm happy with Kenya in that role, she makes me laugh, she is wicked, but I feel its always done with a wink and a smile.  Even her histrionics and dramatics.  I also like that her shade and jokes are more intelligent than what the rest of the cast is serving (with the exception of Cynthia).  I agree with her on a lot of things, and I almost always find that she has a point that makes sense to me, and that she always seems willing to film with anyone and let things go.  Nene was a shit stirrer, but she took it too seriously and she would refuse to go on trips and hold grudges and it was just too much work.  That people don't like Kenya is fine, you're not supposed to like a villain, but I like her.  

I'm not sure if these women really know nice guys.  Kandi met Todd, but the men in her circle seem a little....rough around the edges.  The only single guys Phaedra seems to know are porn stars or guys who want to blow up her office.  Cynthia probably knows men, but they seem more based in new york and just 10-no to any of Peter's friends.  Sheree wasn't on the cast when Kenya joined, but she might know some ballers.  Porsha seems more like a high priced escort at this point, and the only man she could really land a relationship with had a very, very questionable job.

TL;DR -- there are a lot of low cards in that deck so I can understand Kenya looking for a new stack.

Regarding the bolded-you are not being fair to Phaedra, she also boasts a healthy portfolio of single felons, parolees and some soon to released felons.

When Porsha was talking about being self-made-wasn't the season with Claudia Jordan on it all about Porsha and the Rolls Royce and her rich African dude?     

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To me one of Phaedra's misuse of hearsay was when Kandi was repeating a conversation between the two of them.  I think Phaedra should work on telling the truth and rely less on the turn of a legal phrase.  Especially the word hearsay as there are literally volumes of exceptions to the hearsay rule in case law.

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Coldest moment to me was when she said to former bestie Kandi, "What makes you think you are that important to me?" What, indeed, Phaedra? Obviously, she is.

So were you lying when you said "Maybe I loved you more than I loved my husband".  The lies, the lies, the lies!  Unbelievable.    

 

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The only single guys Phaedra seems to know are porn stars or guys who want to blow up her office.  

Too funny, and too true.  I was waiting for them to show Mama Joyce's clip last night, "They were gonna blow you the F up".  Alas, it didn't happen.   

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Since when has Phaedra ever let "hearsay" keep her from gossiping and spreading shit on the show?  Funny how she can tell Andy that she chooses not to share things or share things accurately - - this is the same heifer who gossiped about Kandi and Shamea allegedly hooking up, complete with the finger gestures.  So I guess she can choose not to be accurate or share while choosing to share others' private business, true or not.  Okay. 

What exactly does or did BLM have to do with the sketchy client of Phaedra's that showed up at her office?  

I love how Phaedra tried to claim there was nothing untoward, no threat, bomb or otherwise, and she has a bodyguard/security because don't they all travel with them?   Everyone else said no.  Ha ha ha!   Girl, admit you have security because your husband can't be trusted and you make your money on shady deals. 

Did Kandi really suggest that Phaedra contacted the city in order to create problems with the OLG opening?  That's some bullshit on Phadra's part right there. 

Sheree was shifty but I felt sorry for her with regard to Bob.  It's clear that she and Kenya did indeed have a private talk about abuse.  I was impressed that Kenya didn't throw Sheree under the bus when this was being rehashed.  I bet she could have said more.  Regardless of how she meant it, what Sheree said to Kenya in the playback DID sound like she was shaming Kenya for Matt's actions. 

Porsha . . . clearly hit with the stupid stick one too many times.  

Other than that, I've got nothing. 

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1 minute ago, psychoticstate said:

 

Did Kandi really suggest that Phaedra contacted the city in order to create problems with the OLG opening?  That's some bullshit on Phadra's part right there. 

 

I think Kandi was just fishing with this one. She first accused Phaedra of "calling" people and when Phaedra said that she didn't call anyone, Kandi jumped on that as an admission of Phaedra did talk to someone, she just didn't call them. Kandi also pointed out to Andy that Phaedra didn't deny talking to people about the restaurant. I guess Kandi ran into some road blocks in getting the permits required to open the restaurant and decided to blame Phaedra no matter what. I wonder if this is more like what happened with the Feds showing up, blaming Phaedra even though she didn't do anything. I really doubt that Phaedra has any power within Atlanta's city council. LOL

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4 hours ago, drivethroo said:

Kroy's not trying to hang with the Negroes.  That's why Kim left the first time around.

I always felt Kim left the show the first time because 
a - she thought that NFL money would be coming in forever and
b - she had the  "Don't be Tardy" show.

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Can anyone refresh my memory as to how Phaedra and Bob Whitfield are friendly?  I missed that in the past and was surprised to see Phaedra schooling him to apologize to Sheree in the van after he was smirking about beating her.  

Speaking of Sheree, when they showed the clip, twice, of Sheree saying to Nene, "Ooooh dont make that faaaaaace..." reminded me of why I use to love Sheree, and why she's kind of a bore now.  She's just too nice now.  Sheree was always best when she was going low and a few beats away from taking off her earrings and taking you outside.  I thought she bullied Kim Z in the past but the petty part of me thought it was pretty hilarious.

I have to say, it is glorious to see Phaedra finally being raked over the coals for her years and years of lies and absolutely never getting called on it.  From what I hear, she will pay big in Part 4.  I don't wish ill will on her, but her ability to look at her cast mates and us, the audience, and just fabricate stuff, has always made me question her.   It's no surprise she ended up with a criminal.

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4 hours ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

Andy:  {reads papers} then:  but with this and your pregnancy due date, you can kinda see how everybody would be a little confused by your timelines

Phaedra:  I don't feel the need to share information with anyone except my real friends

'damo:  then. don't. say. shit.   lyin ass heffa. 

p.s.  I'm not sure if I like it or hate it but Andy pressing Kenya to admit to parking lot sex.  Hee Hee.

Petty Andy is the best Andy!  Although, my favorite part of last night's episode was when Andy started sweating really hard during one of those Kandi/Phaedra exchanges.

18 hours ago, Primal Slayer said:

The only thing that rubs me the wrong way with Sheree and her Bob storyline is that she spent the season trying to put Kenya down for Matts behavior. 

I sympathize with Sheree's situation, but I seriously give her the side-eye because I totally believe she's using it to keep her peach.  She definitely suggested that Kenya was the reason Matt is abusive towards her.  And I think that she went home, thought about it, and said, I can use this as my storyline.  

16 hours ago, Michichick said:

All I want to know is wtf is up with Phaedra and Shemar Moore. What was that clip of him kissing up on her? Was that something he did on WWHL as a joke? She's a shady bitch, who'd want to hook up with that mess?

Every time Shemar Moore is on WWHL, he tries real hard to convince everyone that he's into women....

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Speaking of Sheree, when they showed the clip, twice, of Sheree saying to Nene, "Ooooh dont make that faaaaaace..."

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Andy started sweating really hard during one of those Kandi/Phaedra exchanges.

Sweating hard...yeah, that's it...

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1 hour ago, psychoticstate said:

Since when has Phaedra ever let "hearsay" keep her from gossiping and spreading shit on the show?  Funny how she can tell Andy that she chooses not to share things or share things accurately - - this is the same heifer who gossiped about Kandi and Shamea allegedly hooking up, complete with the finger gestures.  So I guess she can choose not to be accurate or share while choosing to share others' private business, true or not.  Okay. 

What exactly does or did BLM have to do with the sketchy client of Phaedra's that showed up at her office?  

I love how Phaedra tried to claim there was nothing untoward, no threat, bomb or otherwise, and she has a bodyguard/security because don't they all travel with them?   Everyone else said no.  Ha ha ha!   Girl, admit you have security because your husband can't be trusted and you make your money on shady deals. 

Did Kandi really suggest that Phaedra contacted the city in order to create problems with the OLG opening?  That's some bullshit on Phadra's part right there. 

Sheree was shifty but I felt sorry for her with regard to Bob.  It's clear that she and Kenya did indeed have a private talk about abuse.  I was impressed that Kenya didn't throw Sheree under the bus when this was being rehashed.  I bet she could have said more.  Regardless of how she meant it, what Sheree said to Kenya in the playback DID sound like she was shaming Kenya for Matt's actions. 

Porsha . . . clearly hit with the stupid stick one too many times.  

Other than that, I've got nothing. 

Love this whole thing.  About the bolded though I thought Kandi was reaching with this because it would mean that Phaedra was so influential as to actually cause such a thing to happen.   It's one thing to place the call but quite another for anybody to come to the phone.    It really sounded like some mama joyce-made conspiracy.  Ya'll know the streets be talking.

10 hours ago, renatae said:

LOL. That really stood out to me, too. Along with her usual reaction to her lying self being confronted, the haughty "I am unassailable" Phaekdra face, which along with the fact her mouth is running, proves she is lying. Coldest moment to me was when she said to former bestie Kandi, "What makes you think you are that important to me?" What, indeed, Phaedra? Obviously, she is.

Girl. Hi!  <----- I know I shouldn'tve but I cackled.

12 minutes ago, luckyroll3 said:

Petty Andy is the best Andy!  Although, my favorite part of last night's episode was when Andy started sweating really hard during one of those Kandi/Phaedra exchanges.

I sympathize with Sheree's situation, but I seriously give her the side-eye because I totally believe she's using it to keep her peach.  She definitely suggested that Kenya was the reason Matt is abusive towards her.  And I think that she went home, thought about it, and said, I can use this as my storyline.  

Every time Shemar Moore is on WWHL, he tries real hard to convince everyone that he's into women....

 

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I don't even know if you need friends in city hall, i think you can just call the health department/department that handles permits and file a complaint and get things held up.  

Things already seem to go a little slower in the South.  I remember getting a car wash in Savannah....it literally took over an hour.  Over here if it's not busy you get your car back in like 15 m.  

So, i could see the process already going slow, even if it was perfect.  And if someone calls in a complaint it goes even slower.

However I agree that it was a stretch for kandi to make the accusation.

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5 minutes ago, RealReality said:

I don't even know if you need friends in city hall, i think you can just call the health department/department that handles permits and file a complaint and get things held up.  

Yeah, that was what I thought as well.

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4 hours ago, CaughtOnTape said:

It's no wonder nothing between these women is ever settled.  None of them can shutup long enough to hear what the other is saying.  I don't even care to listen to it anymore and when Kandi starts yelling and talking over someone while they're talking and yelling over her, I fast forward through it.  Whatever they're arguing about is so fucking petty I don't even care to try and pick out who's saying what so I can decide which side to take.

They all desperately need a therapist who can step in and say "Alright, you shutup while she's talking and listen and THEN you respond to what she said."  They're all so conditioned to defending themselves before the other person has even finished speaking that it's ridiculous to try and discuss anything.

And then you have people like Kenya who doesn't hear a damn thing anyone says while she sits there with her smug little smile concocting the burn she's gonna lay on someone as soon as they're done talking.

Every single one of them is what they claim the others to be.  None of them own their shit.  None of them have been any more hurt than anyone else but it's all some stupid competition for whose been wronged the most and I'm so tired of it.

The minute other people stop propping others up for "reading" someone is the day I'll be a happy girl.  Read or no read, when you're fucking rude you should be told you are.  Not given kudos for it.  

Well, I guess you're done with reality TV huh  ?  I'm afraid you're going to be a "" SAD GIRL" for a long time to come because these " HEIFERS' will never shut  THE F...UP !

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If Phaedra had buddies down at the city she could have talked to them and gotten them to delay paperwork, certificates, etc.  There could be code enforcement situations or a delay of a liquor license.

Did Phaedra do any of this? We don't know.  COULD Phaedra have done any of this? Yes, because we've seen on national tv Phaedra "encouraging" someone to pursue a wage case against Kandi when the fact of the matter is Johnnie probably was a 1099 non-employee contractor and not subject to employee/wage laws because he's not an employee.  And Phaedra probably knows this but its cute & funny to mess with Kandi's money by suggesting on national television that Kandi doesn't pay her employees.  Just the suggestion she doesn't is damaging.

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Watching the facial expressions on the show tells me everything I need to know about most of these ladies. For example Kandi never makes ill expressions or rolls her eyes when talking about Phaedra or Porsha's successes. (As long as no one is dissing her in the process) However when Kandi was discussing Xscape was coming back together both ladies where side eyeing or rolling their eyes. 

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My take on the restaurant and nothing to back it up, is Kandi's restaurant had been delayed a long time and I believe in the interim there were questions about certain permits and permits having expired, a contractor sued for not paying the subs.  So when then slam was tossed out there about the restaurant not opening, Kandi was really forceful about letting the world know everything was okay.  I believe it was an opportunity to open the door and go off on Todd and his efficiency and Kandi being a sugarmomma.

Had Kandi, said it is not ready to open, I am guessing some might use some "word on the street" type information to indicate Kandi's place wasn't completely legit and of course it would be kept Todd's fault.  I think there is such much animosity between Phaedra and Todd and Kandi that any little crack is going to be amplified beyond reason.  Phaedra brags about hanging around City Hall frequently so whether it is true or attempting to rule by intimidation she does throw it around.  I remember her comment because I thought as an attorney she would be at the courthouse-not City Hall.

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1 hour ago, SuzWhat said:

I always felt Kim left the show the first time because 
a - she thought that NFL money would be coming in forever and
b - she had the  "Don't be Tardy" show.

Though I do remember someone (Kim? Kroy?) saying that the only woman from the group that Kroy liked was Sheree.

4 hours ago, jaync said:

She's giving me this...

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1 hour ago, Ubiquitous said:

BWAH!

You know you're famous when drag queens imitate you.

 

Well, Kim Chi must be inspired by Phaedra on many fronts because Kim Chi can't walk in heels, dance, or even really lipsync. It's hard to call yourself a drag queen when you are so bad at some of the core elements of the job, but ya know here comes Phaedra, a shady, duplicitous, manipulative, and malicious person who claims to uphold the ethical canons of an attorney while doing the exact opposite. Phaedra is allergic to the truth.

1 hour ago, luckyroll3 said:

Every time Shemar Moore is on WWHL, he tries real hard to convince everyone that he's into women....

The man is stupid good looking. He's been in the business for 25 years and making decent money the entire time. Leo DiCaprio's group of underwhelming asshole friends, The Pussy Posse The Wolf Pack, which includes luminaries like Tobey Maguire, Lukas Haas, Vincent Lareska, Kevin Connelly, David Blaine,  and Richie Akiva, is knee deep in models and actresses. If these fucktards can get women even without DiCaprio, then Shemar must be single only because he's locked up in a castle somewhere or he's gay. Women would quite literally sit in a catapult and be flung over castle walls to get to him if they thought he was straight.

He keeps saying he's straight, but where are the women? Where is this woman that he theoretically is into? Even secret hobags get caught. Even super private people get caught. At this point, I'm starting to believe that he is straight, but with a combination of weird fetishes that no one is into. He's like Troy McClure from the Simpsons with his strange fish sex kink.

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11 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

The man is stupid good looking. He's been in the business for 25 years and making decent money the entire time. Leo DiCaprio's group of underwhelming asshole friends, The Pussy Posse The Wolf Pack, which includes luminaries like Tobey Maguire, Lukas Haas, Vincent Lareska, Kevin Connelly, David Blaine,  and Richie Akiva, is knee deep in models and actresses. If these fucktards can get women even without DiCaprio, then Shemar must be single only because he's locked up in a castle somewhere or he's gay. Women would quite literally sit in a catapult and be flung over castle walls to get to him if they thought he was straight. At this point, I'm starting to believe that he is straight, but with a combination of weird fetishes that no one is into. He's like Troy McClure from the Simpsons with his strange fish sex kink.

Shemar is hot, but he's been pinging my gaydar since he first showed up as Neil's brother on Young & the Restless.  If he and Phaedra actually started "dating", I wouldn't be shocked.

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2 minutes ago, luckyroll3 said:

Shemar is hot, but he's been pinging my gaydar since he first showed up as Neil's brother on Young & the Restless.  If he and Phaedra actually started "dating", I wouldn't be shocked.

For me, it was the first episode of criminal minds.  It was just so obvious.

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This is all turning into an awful blur so awful its impossible to keep track of the ugliness and filth.Except for Cynthia, sort of...whose participation is a total mystery. If nature abhors a vacuum, I guess she serves a purpose. I quit watching the episodes, thinking it would all be spelled out somewhat on the reunions. Wrong. Sheree's return makes some sense. But the others? Again, how tragic that this is how Bravo, AND Andy Cohen in particular, choose to represent "successful black women" in one of the South's largest cities. I have to say that Todd and Kandi's odd "take" and constant support of Apollo are notably disturbing, especially since both---Todd in particular----so completely dropped any connection to the two sons Apollo left behind. 
Takes some of the luster off Kandi's claims of do-good "philanthropy." But it is the incessant slander and vulgarity.....enough! Get the hook! Time to recast or pull the show for Heaven's sake. Or maybe the one who should really get the hook is ring master Cohen.

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Every time Phaedra opens her up she manages to achieve one of two things...and sometimes she achieves both simultaneous. 1. That she is a liar 2. She foolishly thinks she's the smarter person in the room. 

Isn't it funny how Phaedra kept dropping her lawyer talk about 'hearsay' but she had no problems talking hearsay when it came to Shamea and Kandi's supposed lesbian relationship. Hell at the very reunion, she said 'pay your employees and then you won't have a lawsuit'...did I miss the part where Kandi was actually found guilty of this accusation? Because until it's proven that she did in fact not pay Johnny, then what the fuck you said is hearsay you fucking idiot. And when Phaedra gets called out for lying, her response is that giving an answer is a courtesy. Is it still a courtesy to give people FALSE information? You can give a response without lying. I just cannot with Phaedra. I can take a liar, I can take an instigator, I can an idiot...but the combination of all 3 added with some superior complex over others...nah, feel free to take that back at any point Bravo. I don't want it. 

I love how Phaedra wants to throw shade about people getting sued. Phaedra, you never been sued before? Hmmm? 

I'm slowly turning around on Kenya. I can't recall all of seasons past, but this season, I feel that Kenya came across as a character. She was playing her part and doing her part for the drama but there are moments where I think that a lot of Kenya's behaviour isn't really malicious. Despite her issues with Sheree, Kenya stood up for her in the car with Bob (who is an asshole by the way), and she seemed genuinely hurt for Sheree as she spoke about her issues with abuse. Yet on the other hand, when Kenya was talking about being embarrassed about Matt, you have Porsha on the other hand rolling her eyes. Now that the season has unfolded and Matt continues to be an idiot, I'm not sure if he's willing to lie to keep himself in the spotlight so while I can believe that Kenya and Matt had some sort of understanding going into the season about their storyline, I'm not willing to fully give Matt the complete benefit of the doubt that he's telling the truth 100%. 

So Porsha spills the beans next episode? Is there some place where I can place a wager and who that person may be? Perhaps some well doing Christian Southern Belle who is just so smart and a picture of a purity and truth? 

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22 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

No Kim tonight on WWHL, her son Kash was bitten by a dog and the child requird surgery:  http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/kim-zolciak-4-year-old-son-recovering-dog-attack-article-1.3092899  Best wishes to the child for a speedy recovery. 

I was thinking Kim going on WWHL was going to shed some light on why it is taking four parts to air the Reunion.

She is where she should be. An Instagram picture at the hospital seems to show the edge of a bandage on the left side of his face.

Poor little guy.

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6 hours ago, luckyroll3 said:

Every time Shemar Moore is on WWHL, he tries real hard to convince everyone that he's into women....

But he loves his baby girls on facebook!

 

Kandi just made a few more bucks. They just played Waterfalls on Dancing with the Stars.  Like Kandi or not, she is the most talented of all the housewives in all franchises.

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11 minutes ago, howiveaddict said:

But he loves his baby girls on facebook!

 

Kandi just made a few more bucks. They just played Waterfalls on Dancing with the Stars.  Like Kandi or not, she is the most talented of all the housewives in all franchises.

Is "baby girls" secret code for dudes?

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14 minutes ago, RealReality said:

Is "baby girls" secret code for dudes?

Actually it's a thing from Criminal Minds.  He called one of the characters Baby Girl. Now he posts pictures on his fb page of women wearing baby girl shirts.  And not just young hot women. Another reason to think that he has no female significant other. They wouldn't put up with that.

Kandi just made more money. They now played No Scrubs on Dancing with the Stars.  Kaching!  Kaching!

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I know Phaedra is the main villain here,  but I cannot deal with Porsha. Did she seriously try to insist that no one celebrates her attempts at doing good and then, when Kandi points out she donated $5,000 to her Celebrity Apprentice task, go on a tirade about how she cannot be bought and receiving money doesn't mean she can be treated unfairly? This woman is reaching Nene levels of obnoxiousness where she just yells to yell, fights to fight and doesn't care about anything but getting in the last word. Say what you will about Kandi, she knows how to apologize and she knows how to take responsibility for her part in things. Porsha has the emotional maturity of a toddler. I seriously hope her time on this show is up.

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9 minutes ago, PhilMarlowe2 said:

I know Phaedra is the main villain here,  but I cannot deal with Porsha. Did she seriously try to insist that no one celebrates her attempts at doing good and then, when Kandi points out she donated $5,000 to her Celebrity Apprentice task, go on a tirade about how she cannot be bought and receiving money doesn't mean she can be treated unfairly? This woman is reaching Nene levels of obnoxiousness where she just yells to yell, fights to fight and doesn't care about anything but getting in the last word. Say what you will about Kandi, she knows how to apologize and she knows how to take responsibility for her part in things. Porsha has the emotional maturity of a toddler. I seriously hope her time on this show is up.

I just about laughed when porsha said she apologized to Kenya because I specifically remember when porsha, Nene, Cynthia and Kenya were at a Mexican restaurant and Kenya apologized to porsha and they cut to a talking head of porsha gleefully boasting that she didnt apologize and because she didn't apologize she didn't do anything wrong.  Or because she didn't apologize she didn't admit to doing anything wrong. 

If they had really wanted to shade porsha THAT'S the clip they should have played.

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2 hours ago, howiveaddict said:

Kandi just made a few more bucks. They just played Waterfalls on Dancing with the Stars.  Like Kandi or not, she is the most talented of all the housewives in all franchises.

She is talented but "Waterfalls" is not the song that she wrote for TLC.  She did "No Scrubs" for TLC.  Another Atlanta act, Organized Noize wrote Waterfalls. 

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49 minutes ago, goofygirl said:

Can't quite figure out WHY Phaedra is sooo  pissed at Kandi that she'd go to this sex dungeon business.. I mean, I  know she's a scorpio but WTF??

I get the feeling, and I could be wrong, that she thought Phaedra was telling her the truth. Sadly, she is and was easily misled by Phaedra and other "smarter" people. Sorry, I thought you said Porsha, not Phaedra. I need to slow down when I read tonight! LOL

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