S33.E10: Million Dollar Gamble

[Tara Ariano]

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A power struggle between castaways erupts and each player tries to arm themselves with allies. Also: Tensions rise when Gen Xers turn on each other; and one person throws another under the bus to build trust.

[Lamima]

So who told Jay the plan? Someone did. I am not buying that he just figured it out and randomly voted Jess. So one of the other Jess voters? I am guessing Sunday.

[truthaboutluv]

1 minute ago, Lamima said:

So who told Jay the plan? Someone did. I am not buying that he just figured it out and randomly voted Jess. So one of the other Jess voters? I am guessing Sunday.

Yup, that was my guess. 

[LadyChatts]

So is the second hour going to be a Zeke vs David showdown?  Or is that just a red herring?  I really hope neither of them goes, but considering David has Jessica/Ken in his alliance, I'm hoping someone from Zeke's side goes (Hannah or Adam preferably).

I think the Jess voters were Chris/Bret/Sunday/Jay.  Also, that's a blindside, Probst. 

And while this should already be common sense, tonight's episode should be another exhibit as to why you never tell anyone you have an idol.

Edited November 24, 2016 by LadyChatts

[ElleryAnne]

Jay's not my favorite player, but damn, the guy can read a room at TC.  

[Lamima]

Really wish Bret, Sunday, Will or Jay would go home. Sunday or Jay most particularly.

Edited November 24, 2016 by Lamima

[LadyChatts]

1 minute ago, ElleryAnne said:

Jay's not my favorite player, but damn, the guy can read a room at TC.  

I'm so thrilled he didn't play his idol.  He still has that to fall back on.  Actually, since Zeke has it out for David and his crew, Jay may be safe for awhile. 

Since Zeke thinks he's running things, I wouldn't mind him getting a blindside of his own at the next TC.  Although he's got some pretty good sheep on his side, so we'll see.

[cooksdelight]

I still want to smack Jay. He's too smug.

And, David.... try to be a little bit humble.

[Straycat80]

I wouldn't mind a blindside of either Zeke or David at the next TC. I think Jay might be safe for awhile. 

[LadyChatts]

3 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

I wouldn't mind a blindside of either Zeke or David at the next TC. I think Jay might be safe for awhile. 

I'm hoping it's Zeke.  I like that guy, but he needs to be taken down a few notches. 

Okay, Jay wins immunity-this really is going to be one side vs the other.  Hope Ken doesn't get it! 

Edited November 24, 2016 by LadyChatts

[Lamima]

I am team Dave. like both but like Dave a tad more.

[cooksdelight]

If they vote off MY Ken, I'm never watching this show again!!!! :)

[Lamima]

Jay might win this thing...uggghhh.

[LadyChatts]

Just now, cooksdelight said:

If they vote off MY Ken, I'm never watching this show again!!!! :)

That'll be my luck.  So we have Zeke/Adam/Hannah/Sunday/Bret vs Ken/David/Jessica, with Jay kind of a free agent.  So if they try to split the vote, and David gets winds of Zeke wanting him gone, if he can play his idol just right, those 4 might have an advantage.

[Lamima]

Hannah is with Dave. They showed that. Plus she's crushing on Ken so she will always be with Ken.

Edited November 24, 2016 by Lamima

[LadyChatts]

Just now, Lamima said:

Hannah is with Dave.

Thanks, and I realize I forgot Will (I can't keep track of whose with who).  Hannah seems pretty easy to get on your side, so Zeke might be able to sway her.  I just hope something exciting happens.  There's been so much focus on Zeke getting Dave out, I have to think it'll be Jessica/Ken :( instead.  Or Hannah.  She's certainly had a lot of screen time the last couple of episodes, and I don't think anyone would see a vote coming for her.

Still, I'm going to be annoyed if this is what we get from King Zeke the rest of the season.

[awaken]

Hannah and Jeff were a bit too tickled at the trust cluster idea. 

[truthaboutluv]

Wow, Hannah sucks at this game.

[LadyChatts]

Oh good lord Hannah, whispering in someone's ear at TC?  Leave that to the pros.

I'm thinking Hannah, Ken, or...Sunday?  Will?  Depends whose alliance falls. 

Edited November 24, 2016 by LadyChatts

[awaken]

I was surprised to see Chris go home without any/many TH's. (Or did I just forget?). 

Hope sunday, Brett, and will are gone soon. They bring little to nothing to the game.  

Zeke FTW. Adam, ken, and Hannah for top four. Maybe Jess, too. 

[LadyChatts]

1 minute ago, awaken said:

I was surprised to see Chris go home without any/many TH's. (Or did I just forget?). 

Hope sunday, Brett, and will are gone soon. They bring little to nothing to the game.  

Zeke FTW. Adam, ken, and Hannah for top four. Maybe Jess, too. 

No, he's been pretty invisible all season.  I was thinking he'd end up being a major character after the merge.

Voting is early...still 10 minutes.  We probably have a tie coming.

[Straycat80]

Thank you Bret! I was thinking the same thing making up stupid words and putting a hashtag in front of it! 

[Lamima]

Wow... just mouthed Ken...I think that's smoke and mirrors.

[LadyChatts]

I want Jessica to last until the end simply because of her TC reactions.

Okay, this is still pretty early.  We've got a rock draw situation coming up!  Come on guys, decide on Zeke!

Edited November 24, 2016 by LadyChatts

[LadyChatts]

Sunday, Will, Bet were idiots.  They should have sided with Hannah and just voted Zeke off.

[Haleth]

That was bananas! Why would anyone risk their own game for Zeke or Hannah?  Boot one now and get rid of the other one next. 

Whispering about Ken was really sneaky  

Jay is going to laugh all the way to the finale. 

Edited November 24, 2016 by Haleth

[LadyChatts]

Now Zeke and company are going to get even more cocky.  Should have been Sunday, Will, or Bret (all worthless sheep).

[Lamima]

2 minutes ago, LadyChatts said:

Sunday, Will, Bet were idiots.  They should have sided with Hannah and just voted Zeke off.

Yup... hope it's one of them

[NYGirl]

Oh wow!!  Poor Jessica.  Hannah told her not to vote for her and she got screwed.   I learned to hate Bret tonight.  

I held my breath when they said Ken...and I cheered when David used his idol for him but then it turned out to be a ruse.. damn

[Artsda]

They were fools. Jessica should have just voted for Zeke, she did that to herself and all for what? To give Zeke and Hannah immunity.

[LadyChatts]

On the plus side, at least Adam and Jay still have their idols.  Hopefully Sunday, Bret, and Will wise up and realize they are just pawns.  David's going to prove them right about Zeke (I'll love when that happens).

[LadyNebula]

Zeke is really annoying the piss outta me.  REALLY glad Ken lives another day.

[truthaboutluv]

These people are idiots. You all go to rocks between Hannah and Zeke? Yeah panicky, moronic Hannah is SUCH a threat in this game versus Zeke. And poor Jessica who did not want to go to the rocks in the first place, is of course the person who is booted. Hannah and David played this so badly. Dumbass Adam, thinking he's trying to help, tells David they were throwing out Ken's name, not realizing they clearly said that so they would waste the idol on the wrong person. Hannah is the worse double agent ever and totally gives away to Zeke that she's flipped.

And I thought Zeke and Bret were both unnecessary assholes to David. Zeke's whole, "oh are you going to cry" taunt to David was unnecessary and just dickish. But now Jessica is gone so he has his numbers, unless somehow people realize he's running the show. But the person who's having the best luck right now is Jay, who went from top of the hit list to being completely ignored, as everyone implodes, all while he still has an idol. 

[Lamima]

I suspected it was a ruse, the Ken thing . Now Adam and Hannah will feel so bad. I hope they go after Zeke's crew. Looks like Jay might stick around. I think he or Dave wins it.

Edited November 24, 2016 by Lamima

[Ms Blue Jay]

Ohhhhh my god

48 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

Wow, Hannah sucks at this game.

A lot of people played worse than her this round LOL

Man that was fucking exciting.  Not as much as the Cubs/Indians game but I was screaming.  The Rajai HR still beats it, by a lot.  But this will go down in history.  I never saw the Paschal season.  That's one of the few I never saw.  (Thanks to those who pointed out it was Season 4 Marquesas.)   I'm so glad I was watching.  Survivor has renewed my faith in the show and the franchise and I now have renewed faith in this season, which I was rapidly losing.

This season never felt like a favourite, but wow, I know that it will be historical now.

Going to rocks sounds stupid when I hear about it secondhand, but watching it was much soooooo fun. Hahahahahah.  It was really like a movie; the director focusing on Jessica so much because she knew she was fated to "die" this way through the whole tribal.  Although, I think if Adam -- or, to a lesser extent, David -- was eliminated this way, I'd be pissed, because I like them and their stories. I have a personal affiliation towards Adam and David's arc brought me to tears today.  Jessica really thought she was going to win the whole thing.  I thought the lack of focus on Adam this entire episode, until TC when he fucked up the Ken call - was very weird.  I kept having to remind myself that he was the 10th person there.  Also, who orchestrated the Ken bluff?  And who was whispering it?  

I was already thinking that challenge where they squirm through the sand looked like people trying to wriggle away from their deaths in a Tarantino film.  I KNOW I've seen a movie or two like that.  Very cinematic episode.

I never knew Zeke was gay.  So yeah I didn't know about Brett either, but that surprised me less because I never paid attention to the guy.  Now I am finally confident that I know everyone's names.  LOL

I used to get pissed about all the women and minorities being thrown out of the game, but I guess now I just have to see it like a metaphor for America.  Remember how Sunday focused so much on Jessica last week?  Perfect metaphor for a lot of women I know.  Sunday and Hannah are the last two women standing; just wow.  I always thought Sunday was dumb, but man, she won that challenge with Brett and Zeke...... is Zeke a genius or can Sunday hold her own?  LOL

Edited November 24, 2016 by Ms Blue Jay

[ElleryAnne]

Well, that was interesting.  I feel bad for Jess - she does know that she's only going to jury and not to her death, right?

[truthaboutluv]

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Boot one now and get rid of the other one next. 

Which is exactly what David said to them. As he said, Zeke is one of the biggest threats (and if these people really aren't seeing that, then they're idiots) so boot him out and if they think he, David, is so dangerous, boot him next, especially now that he has no idol. 

The best part of this whole thing for me was Ken whose expressions and reactions never changed. I did love him putting Bret in his fucking place with that condescending "it's called Survivor Ken, that's how it's played". It's like a switch just flipped with Bret and Zeke and they just suddenly decided to be assholes to David and company who did nothing to them. You even see Sunday sort of trying to rein Bret in at one point. 

Edited November 24, 2016 by truthaboutluv

[Straycat80]

That was crazy! I like this new rule. I wasn't a fan of Jessica's but I felt sorry for her. Going home because she drew the wrong rock. But she did it to herself, if she would have voted for Zeke they would not have had to go to rocks.

I'll miss Chris, he was fun to watch in the challenges. 

Edited November 24, 2016 by Straycat80

[dkb]

Wow, both episodes were so good. 

The editors did a nice job with the talking heads over Zeke and David at camp, saying the same things about each other.

Bret was really annoying at Tribal, and both him and Zeke were out of line with talking about Davids problem. I mean I guess they were just pretending to be nice when David talked about his troubles because they didn't want to be seen as mean. But at Tribal their meanness came out, really surprised at both of them.

Why did you trust anything Sunday tells you Hannah and Adam, why? Should have gone with your gut and David should have played the idol for Hannah as originally planned so Zeke could leave.

Feel bad for Jessica, but atleast everyone is playing.

4 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

Which is exactly what David said to them. As he said, Zeke is one of the biggest threats (and if these people really aren't seeing that, then they're idiots) so boot him out and if they think he, David, is so dangerous, boot him next, especially now that he has no idol. 

The best part of this whole thing for me was Ken whose expressions and reactions never changed. I did love him putting Bret in his fucking place with that condescending "it's called Survivor Ken, that's how it's played". It's like a switch just flipped with Bret and Zeke and they just suddenly decided to be assholes to David and company who did nothing to them. You even see Sunday sort of trying to rein Bret in at one point. 

^^ Yes, Zeke is playing hard, he is the much bigger threat against Hannah! 

I really hope Bret and Sunday are not at the end cause they came off as really stupid here.

Edited November 24, 2016 by dkb

[JaggedLilPill]

5 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

And I thought Zeke and Bret were both unnecessary assholes to David. Zeke's whole, "oh are you going to cry" taunt to David was unnecessary and just dickish

Right? WTF? That went below the belt for me. I know it's a game, but still. 

I like David more than I like Zeke anyway.

I do feel bad for Jess, but truth be told, she would have been gone ages ago had David not played his idol for her.

I don't think I've ever been more nervous watching a tribal council! LOL. This game is bananas (unless, you know, Taylor ate those on his way out last week).

[enlightenedbum]

You know who got screwed?  Ken.  If anybody other than Jess goes home, he's under the radar and they've shown him making pretty good connections with a variety of people.  Now his closest ally is gone and he's in the minority.

I'm trying to decide if I admire Hannah for taking a risk to try to win or if giving up a pretty sure FTC with Zeke is dumb.  I think I admire it, but she has to eliminate so many people to have a shot at winning.

Jury wise, I think Zeke, Ken, David, and Jay are in the best shape, in that order.  Bret, Sunday, and Will are non-entities.  I think Adam annoys people.

[Lantern7]

Okay. That was fun. I mean, sucks that Jessica takes Paschal's way out of the game, especially since she could have flipped on Hannah, but a one-in-six turkey shoot? And we got David and Zeke playing "Spy vs. Spy" for at least another week. It's a beta male brawl, y'all.

I was expecting David to go out last because he had the same trajectory as Stephen from two seasons ago in a two-hour episode. He tried to opted out of a reward challenge, got coaxed back in, lost that, improbably won immunity, got to go on a reward without eating a grain of sand, and he burned his idol on Ken of all people. If he did it for Hannah, Zeke would've been out.

Kinda sucks that we have "David vs. Zeke" for the foreseeable future, since I can see myself getting along with either of them better than the others. What, am I going to relate to Jay? Or Will? Touching that Zeke and Brett had a secret moment. I don't read bios, so Brett's revelation took me by surprise.

Jessica has to come back, right? I mean, the only other person I've seen destroyed by a reality show was Sarah over on The Challenge when Johnny denied her money. I'm not a fan of Jessica, but I feel bad that it shook out that way for her, even though she did have some control.

[Ms Blue Jay]

8 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

That was crazy! I like this new rule. I wasn't a fan of Jessica's but I felt sorry for her. Going home because she drew the wrong rock. But she did it to herself, if she would have voted for Zeke they would not have had to go to rocks.

I'll miss Chris, he was fun to watch in the challenges. 

The rocks?  Not a new rule, right?  

[waving feather]

Jay is probably enjoying this the most. He was the head of his alliance but they took out all his allies except for him and now people are imploding while he still has an HII.

[LadyChatts]

I was watching at work so I missed what Zeke and Bret said to David.  Crappy of them, especially since David was close to Zeke at one point.  Bret suddenly thinks he's Zeke's BFF, the guy whose just using him to go after David's side?

I'd say (depending how bitter a jury we have), Jay, Ken, and possibly Zeke and David have the best chances of winning.  Sunday, Will, and Bret are perfect goats.  Hannah and Adam I also think are going to be unlikable to some over on that side.

[Straycat80]

Just now, Ms Blue Jay said:

The rocks?  Not a new rule, right?  

No. The if the group can't decide on who should go home after two write down votes then the two people in question are safe and everybody else has to draw rocks? Isn't that new this season? Maybe I'm wrong, I just don't remember that before?

[LadyChatts]

2 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

The rocks?  Not a new rule, right?  

Nope, we've had the rocks forever I think.  First time they were played was Marquesas, but TPTB adjusted the rules when they realized you can't play rocks the way they were meant to be played at a final 4.

[Maverick]

 Jesus H people.  When Ken talked about the guillotine, it was a metaphor.  No was literally being sent to death, not that you could tell by their reactions.  Seriously, it was like one of those bad movies where you have to lighten the plane of it's going to crash, so better than to throw someone out kicck and screaming rather than dying.

 Also, castaways take note:  ""anyone but me" only works with Sandra.

[weightyghost]

The fact that Adam believes that Sunday was telling the truth when she told HANNAH that it was Ken, was dumb on his part. 

The bullying by Zeke and Brett were gross, when David and Ken were speaking logically about the game. 

I really enjoyed Jessica and I'm pissed another woman goes home by random draw. And again, shut up Brett. YOU could have switched your vote too and this wouldn't have happened. 

[picklesprite]

So much fun! I really love these later seasons where the players are all seasoned fans of the game and so many of them know how to play. So much more tense and fun to watch.

It would be lovely to see Sunday or Brett go, but they'd make good goats, yes?