S11.E19: Reunion Part 1

[Giselle]

23 hours ago, FlyingEgret said:

Did anyone else think that Heather put her actual embryos in the glass etching?

Was it that tacky family tree craft project she was pushing for?

[Former Nun]

10 minutes ago, Giselle said:

Was it that tacky family tree craft project she was pushing for?

I'd bet that it's a nice piece of art...rather than some "tacky" craft project.

21 hours ago, HumblePi said:

Kelly is funny at times but way too disruptive.

Only in her outfits of choice.  Her sense of "humor" is either third-grade boy or very cruel.

[Giselle]

Even the reunion wasn't enjoyable for me. If Vicki and Kelly aren't fired I more than likely will cancel the season pass on TiVo and catch it when I can later maybe only watch once on a rerun a week later if even that. I want those first night vewier numbers to be in the toilet as punishment for keeping that grifter and ©¥π# on the show.

[Former Nun]

18 hours ago, deltaburkefan said:

I'm scared of what Vicki would become without her orange. 

And then there's the contingent that just doesn't give a _ _ _ _.   Fill in your favorite four-letter excrement.

[Ubiquitous]

22 hours ago, Starsandbucks said:

My favorite parts last night:

Vicki's "And I didn't buy them for myself!" in reference to the flowers in Ireland when no one even asked. I actually LOL'ed. 

I didn't realize Vicki said that unprompted. I thought I had missed something stage whispering.

On ‎11‎/‎8‎/‎2016 at 10:24 AM, English Teacher said:

<sheepishly admitting in a whisper> I didn't know that was Lizzie. I thought it was a drag queen. 

I didn't realize that was Peggy in the picture and wondered what happened to Shannon.

20 hours ago, Duke2801 said:

Yeah I had NO clue what she was on about with that nonsense.  Only from reading the posts on here today did I discern that she was referring to Brooks.  I'm sure she thought it was just another adorable Vicki-ism, like "going potty" or "no scratchy the woody." 

No, Vicki suddenly decreed that no one speak Brook's name and say "ding dong" instead.

[Tara Ariano]

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV post on the episode!

Did Vicki Just Refer To The Real Housewives Of Orange County

As 'My Show'?And a ton more oh-so-burning questions from the reunion's first installment.

[zoeysmom]

12 minutes ago, Tara Ariano said:

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV post on the episode!

Did Vicki Just Refer To The Real Housewives Of Orange County

As 'My Show'?And a ton more oh-so-burning questions from the reunion's first installment.

"Bye Felicia being culturally relevant-no truer words were ever written.  Vicki and Kelly endlessly speak old jokes and terms that were somewhat relevant fove years ago and want them as there own.  Tamra had already used "bye Felicia," correctly. 

Another recap:  https://www.trashtalktv.com/11/08/real-housewives-of-orange-county-recap-reunion-part-1/401406/

[bosawks]

But the Vicki spin of saying "Bye, bye Felicia" was hysterical.  Something about the second bye is just so Vicki in all of her ridiculousness.

[MerryMary]

I'm pretty sure college grad Kelly didn't know what polarizing meant.  She had no comment when Andy mentioned her being the most polarizing housewife in the show's history.  

I thought everyone's hair and makeup looked quite bad.  

I suspect that Brianna is already separated from her husband.  I'm willing to bet that she didn't tell Vicki they're separated either.  She knows Vicki can't keep her mouth shut.

And yes, for a moment I thought Heather put her frozen embryos in the window.  I really don't like anyone on this show anymore.  For all I care, they can do a clean sweep and start with a new cast.  

[Giselle]

Has anybody else wondered if Michael has to milk Kelly twice a day like most milk cows? Shit those udders are hanging low.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Giselle

[zoeysmom]

This clip explains a lot about Vicki-she went to the Reunion not having watched the last four episodes.  Great preparation for your job.  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county/season-11/blogs/which-oc-housewife-would-like-to-star-on

[HunterHunted]

9 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

This clip explains a lot about Vicki-she went to the Reunion not having watched the last four episodes.  Great preparation for your job.  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county/season-11/blogs/which-oc-housewife-would-like-to-star-on

And Kelly picked Shahs of Sunset. Not a surprise because the Shahs are awful people and Reza thinks he's hilarious, but he's really just rude, obnoxious, and racist.

[Mu Shu]

58 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

And Kelly picked Shahs of Sunset. Not a surprise because the Shahs are awful people and Reza thinks he's hilarious, but he's really just rude, obnoxious, and racist.

I had the misfortune of watching Bravo when this yutz came on.  If I had to spend Two minutes in a room with him there would be a trial.   I would pull the ceiling down and beat him senseless with it.

[Ubiquitous]

1 hour ago, HunterHunted said:

And Kelly picked Shahs of Sunset. Not a surprise because the Shahs are awful people and Reza thinks he's hilarious, but he's really just rude, obnoxious, and racist.

That explains a LOT!

1 hour ago, MerryMary said:

I suspect that Brianna is already separated from her husband.  I'm willing to bet that she didn't tell Vicki they're separated either.  She knows Vicki can't keep her mouth shut.

You know, that would explain his absence and Brianna moving in with Vicki.

[ghoulina]

20 hours ago, doublek61 said:

I think my favorite part of the "How dumb can Kelly be?" tour was when Andy commented that she was the most polarizing housewife they had ever had.....

And she thanked him.

I guess on "Planet Dodd" polarizing is a compliment?

I just can't even see Kelly as polarizing. From what I've read and seen, not many like her at all. 

[RHJunkie]

The best part of the show was when Kelly didn't appear to understand what 'polarizing' meant and she thanked Andy as if it was the most amazing compliment she had ever received, haha.

I can see how some people would give Kelly the benefit of the doubt - she's constantly behaving badly but still owning up to it and saying sorry. She's a purely reactionary person. Who doesn't at least know someone who is emotional and reactionary before they're calm and logical? Kelly is like a watered down version of Porsha from the Atlanta series - she's all sorts of crazy and no self control when she's angry (and she allows people to get a rise out of her) but she takes it a step further with physically putting hands on people. I'd actually say that Heather is a watered down version of Kenya. Always walking around like she's the most mature and classy person in the room yet she's low key shady, manipulative and judgmental. It's that idea that so long as you don't act like a raging lunatic, you can do say and do whatever you want and still think you're going to look like the better person.

[Juliegirlj]

Sometimes I can't tell when posters are being ironic or tongue in cheek- for anyone unsure what Andy meant when he called Kelly the most polarizing housewife: to polarize is to divide into opposites sides. A polarizing person is someone that, because of their nature, causes people to either love or hate them.. Not a particularly complementary thing to say. 

When Kelly discusss her husband's narcissistic personality disorder it is painfully obvious she doesn't understand what the implications of that really are. She seems to think that because he has had some success in life that he has a big ego. The others were correct that it isn't the same thing at all as being diagnosed with NPD. 

[ghoulina]

12 minutes ago, Juliegirlj said:

Sometimes I can't tell when posters are being ironic or tongue in cheek- for anyone unsure what Andy meant when he called Kelly the most polarizing housewife: to polarize is to divide into opposites sides. A polarizing person is someone that, because of their nature, causes people to either love or hate them.. Not a particularly complementary thing to say. 

Right. To me, polarizing is someone that has a lot of haters and ALSO a lot of fan's. There's a lot of argument about said person. I'd say Teresa G from NJ is polarizing. Many people cannot stand her, but a lot of people enjoy her. Kelly? I mean, there might be a few people here or there that like her, but I feel like the overall sentiment is that she SUCKS. So I just don't, personally, see her as polarizing. 

[HunterHunted]

2 hours ago, bosawks said:

But the Vicki spin of saying "Bye, bye Felicia" was hysterical.  Something about the second bye is just so Vicki in all of her ridiculousness.

You know "Bye Felicia" is dead and done when you hear multiple housewives on different franchises mom mangle it. I've heard "Bye, bye Felicia," "Goodbye Felicia," and "Goodbye. Leave Felicia."

Vicki attempting to deploy "Bye Felicia" is doubly funny because Vicki, apparently, doesn't watch TV. So it's made its way from black folks, through gay folks, through young people, through the internet, and finally made its way to Vicki. It's like a 3 or 4 year journey just to have Vicki mangle it during the reunion.

We heard Heather use "shade" in the episode too.

[msblossom]

On 11/7/2016 at 9:09 PM, FlyingEgret said:

I was so distracted by Kelly's top I didn't hear most of what she was trying to say - did she get larger implants or was that an optical illusion? 

Yeah, her boobs were ginormous. What was wrong with the size of the old ones? Is bigger better? 

[HunterHunted]

1 hour ago, Mu Shu said:

I had the misfortune of watching Bravo when this yutz came on.  If I had to spend Two minutes in a room with him there would be a trial.   I would pull the ceiling down and beat him senseless with it.

I hope you didn't catch any of his attempts at stand up comedy. That was dreadful. 

"Hey muthafuckas, how many of you are from a foreign country? crickets I'm from Iran. Iranian moms are like this, while white moms are like that. And you know Iranian moms are always hiding gold because you never know when the Taliban is coming. Asa is laughing so hard she has tears; crickets from everyone else

Don't get me started on driving. Iranians drive like this, while white people drive like that. And then there is some muthafucka who is drivin' all slow. And I'm like what's your problem? Can you not see the speed limit? Bitch was Chinese."

Clearly not verbatim, but this is the gist of stand up. None of it was funny, but what do I know. I'm not half Jewish like Reza.

[zoeysmom]

18 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

Right. To me, polarizing is someone that has a lot of haters and ALSO a lot of fan's. There's a lot of argument about said person. I'd say Teresa G from NJ is polarizing. Many people cannot stand her, but a lot of people enjoy her. Kelly? I mean, there might be a few people here or there that like her, but I feel like the overall sentiment is that she SUCKS. So I just don't, personally, see her as polarizing. 

I believe Andy's use of the term was how quickly Kelly jumped in and offended people.  There is a theory about polarizing people (and they applaud themselves for their brilliance) that they disqualify people they would not get along with anyway and direct their attention at like thinkers.  So immediately, after her thorough research of the show, I believe Kelly saw Vicki has someone who most needed a friend and at that time was the polar opposite of Shannon and Heather.  What she failed to realize is Heather was the one in fact trying to bring Vicki and the others to some place of middle with her party and even going to Glamis for Eddie's birthday. 

No one was pleased when Kelly announced she had gone out to lunch with Vicki, and she even risked alienating Meghan.  Kelly needed someone who was the polar opposite of Shannon and Heather, and Meghan wasn't on board.  So when Kelly went to the 70's party hammered and, it was Kelly who made a big deal over the purse and started yelling at Shannon's guests about the purse, she had a great day.  She had already disqualified Shannon and her friends Jaci and Nina and now Kelly tries to hold Shannon to some friend standard for not defending some pretty indefensible behavior.

By the time they went to Ireland, Kelly believed she had Vicki and to a lesser degree Meghan firmly in her corner.  What she couldn't tolerate were the disqualified were enjoying, her anchor, Vicki's company-that is why she made the bold move of insulting Tamra and Heather.  Kelly wants someone to rescue her when she oversteps, and she enjoyed that with Vicki at the 70s party, Tamra at the sushi dinner. 

Since I hate the terms ambush and set up, for which there truly aren't that many on these shows, Kelly seems to think in terms of ambush and set-up with zero regard for her own actions.

[bosawks]

36 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

You know "Bye Felicia" is dead and done when you hear multiple housewives on different franchises mom mangle it. I've heard "Bye, bye Felicia," "Goodbye Felicia," and "Goodbye. Leave Felicia."

Vicki attempting to deploy "Bye Felicia" is doubly funny because Vicki, apparently, doesn't watch TV. So it's made its way from black folks, through gay folks, through young people, through the internet, and finally made its way to Vicki. It's like a 3 or 4 year journey just to have Vicki mangle it during the reunion.

We heard Heather use "shade" in the episode too.

Maybe Heather's ovaries are in the shade to match the egg art...

[Lizzing]

1 hour ago, HunterHunted said:

You know "Bye Felicia" is dead and done when you hear multiple housewives on different franchises mom mangle it. I've heard "Bye, bye Felicia," "Goodbye Felicia," and "Goodbye. Leave Felicia."

They all owe Ice Cube an apology, not that they'd know it.  LOL!

[Petunia13]

Yes v few know where it's from but what else is new

[Kiss my mutt]

10 hours ago, Former Nun said:

And then there's the contingent that just doesn't give a _ _ _ _.   Fill in your favorite four-letter excrement.

I see what you did here!  Lol. 

[sasha206]

On 11/7/2016 at 9:09 PM, FlyingEgret said:

I was so distracted by Kelly's top I didn't hear most of what she was trying to say - did she get larger implants or was that an optical illusion? 

 

Those boobs...they seem natural to me?  But she never seems to wear a bra and they hang?

But her hair looked great and it's the best she looked.

[zoeysmom]

12 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

 

Those boobs...they seem natural to me?  But she never seems to wear a bra and they hang?

But her hair looked great and it's the best she looked.

Her boobs are what happens when one has augmentation instead of a lift and augmentation.  Saggy fun bags.

I thought one of the more appalling things to come out of Kelly's mouth was her inability to acknowledge she was having an affair.  An affair is one or both of the parties involved are married.  Kelly had almost a sociopathic response to seeing a married man, it was on him and boo-hoo hoo, the wife was devastated about the family breaking up.  I guess we will hear more about the various restraining orders Kelly has been involved in next week.  There is something way off about this woman's moral compass.  Polarizing was is probably way down her list of issues.

[Former Nun]

9 hours ago, MerryMary said:

I'm pretty sure college grad Kelly didn't know what polarizing meant

I'm not convinced she graduated...from high school!!!   Someone out there has proof.  Graduated from St. Mary's in Phoenix?  Attended (at all?) Arizona State University in Tempe?

[breezy424]

11 hours ago, Tara Ariano said:

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV post on the episode!

Did Vicki Just Refer To The Real Housewives Of Orange County

As 'My Show'?And a ton more oh-so-burning questions from the reunion's first installment.

So here's Meg on the right with the cute, perky (and no doubt), sexy breasts.  Then we have Kelly with two melons in a bag.  Last, there is Vicks in her one shoulder.  Actually one of her better picks considering I'm not a fan of a one shoulder, especially on a woman who is busty.  At least Vick's breasts are up and contained.  Apparently Kelly thinks her breasts are very sexy considering she wore what looked like her daughter's bikini top in that scene on the beach.  There was bottom breast, side breast and top breast.  But damn, she has experience in the corporate world and knows to do research before meeting someone.....

[Giselle]

8 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Her boobs are what happens when one has augmentation instead of a lift and augmentation.  Saggy fun bags.

I thought one of the more appalling things to come out of Kelly's mouth was her inability to acknowledge she was having an affair.  An affair is one or both of the parties involved are married.  Kelly had almost a sociopathic response to seeing a married man, it was on him and boo-hoo hoo, the wife was devastated about the family breaking up.  I guess we will hear more about the various restraining orders Kelly has been involved in next week.  There is something way off about this woman's moral compass.  Polarizing was is probably way down her list of issues. 

 

Labels she can't get away from are a homewrecker, abusive, a drunk, a hypocrite I'm sure there are a few more to describe her.

[MrSmith]

23 hours ago, Beden said:

Perhaps but, as my grandfather used to say; "If a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass on the ground"...as well as "All you can expect from a pig is a grunt".

Just saying.

OK. After watching the first part of the reunion last night, I take back every nice thing I said about Kelly. She's so dumb I felt like my mind was being attacked with a dull wood chisel. Seeing how she reacted to being called polarizing.... You could tell she didn't know what it meant or whether she should take it as a compliment, so she said thank you as quietly as she could. I loved the expressions on Tamra and Heather's faces when she said that. And then she even completely lost the plot on the conversation she started about Shannon never having forgiven her. On top of all that, she doesn't understand that she would still have had an affair even if she had been divorced when she was engaged to that dude who was married. And she completely ignored the fact she was still married, which would constitute an affair anyway! I was just, "Really? You're that stupid?"

And I'm sick of Vicki and her denials of her involvement with Brooks' cancer scam. I don't understand why they don't confront her with the video evidence of all the times she's lied and changed her story about her involvement. On top of that, she got involved with that "Kill All Cancer" charity scam, claims that she wasn't involved with it (by saying "It wasn't my charity"), and yet also has said "we" shut down the website "voluntarily" and that "we" will bring it back up. Well, if it's not her charity, then why would she have anything to do with making decisions about the web site or the charity?

Finally, off topic... If anyone is having trouble scrolling down the page because of an ad, in Chrome you can right click the ad, click "Inspect" and this will show you the HTML code for the page. As you hover over the code, it will highlight on the page what that code is rendering on the page. Look for an "iframe" tag (it'll look like "<iframe "). Right click that tag and click "Delete element". This will remove the ad from the page until the page is refreshed. There are also ad-blockers available, but I don't know how good they are for Chrome. (I do web development and I'm too lazy to install one in Chrome.)

@Drogo Perhaps you can have someone look at the intrusiveness of your video ads and do something to stop them from interfering with our ability to scroll past?

[Drogo]

6 minutes ago, MrSmith said:

Finally, off topic... If anyone is having trouble scrolling down the page because of an ad, in Chrome you can right click the ad, click "Inspect" and this will show you the HTML code for the page. As you hover over the code, it will highlight on the page what that code is rendering on the page. Look for an "iframe" tag (it'll look like "<iframe "). Right click that tag and click "Delete element". This will remove the ad from the page until the page is refreshed. There are also ad-blockers available, but I don't know how good they are for Chrome. (I do web development and I'm too lazy to install one in Chrome.)

@Drogo Perhaps you can have someone look at the intrusiveness of your video ads and do something to stop them from interfering with our ability to scroll past?

If you see a bad ad (plays sound with user interactive, autoplays video, makes site slow, moving page around, etc) please report it to us using the "Report This Ad" flag icon at the bottom-right corner next to the ad, then fill out the form that pops up. This gives us the right info to pass along to the ad people to request a pull.

[Almost 3000]

2 hours ago, Drogo said:

If you see a bad ad (plays sound with user interactive, autoplays video, makes site slow, moving page around, etc) please report it to us using the "Report This Ad" flag icon at the bottom-right corner next to the ad, then fill out the form that pops up. This gives us the right info to pass along to the ad people to request a pull.

OK, thanks. That probably answers what's been happening to me on Kardashian threads.

[zoeysmom]

3 hours ago, MrSmith said:

 

And I'm sick of Vicki and her denials of her involvement with Brooks' cancer scam. I don't understand why they don't confront her with the video evidence of all the times she's lied and changed her story about her involvement. On top of that, she got involved with that "Kill All Cancer" charity scam, claims that she wasn't involved with it (by saying "It wasn't my charity"), and yet also has said "we" shut down the website "voluntarily" and that "we" will bring it back up. Well, if it's not her charity, then why would she have anything to do with making decisions about the web site or the charity?

 

 

Vicki's continual denial about her complicity in Brooks cancer scam, reminds me of Teresa from RHONJ, who claims to have just signed some papers.  She conveniently leaves out the number of times she testified and actively concealed assets. 

I believe after the Season 9 Reunion, Vicki was feeling pretty good and knew the only thing that could bring her down was Brooks screwing up and/or her daughter's continued attacks on Brooks "character".  So Vicki very shrewdly e-mailed Jeana (who Brooks would later blame for him having to out his cancer back in September of 2014), told Shannon, including the Terry sending someone big lie.  Brooks was in it to win it from the beginning, posting pictures of the City of Hope sign and declaring them "angels", manufacturing the chemo session, going to NY and he and Vicki pimping some new drink and then jetting off to Puerto Vallarta, hours after his last chemo session.  The idea she was working so much she did not investigate Brooks claims is not even worth discussion.  Similarly, last season and her screaming, "ask Brooks," while dining with Shannon was not even worth commentary other than the fact the subsequent phone call from Brooks and the "vile and disgusting" label from Vicki, was essentially the end of not only Shannon's support but their friendship.  it was never about Shannon making about her (as Vicki and Brooks claim) it was about their inability to back up their nonsense. 

Had Brooks been involved in some criminal activity, I could somewhat understand Vicki reluctance to talk about Brooks to keep him from prosecution. This whole cancer thing was done to ensure Brooks would be accepted by the group or in the alternative an excuse for missing events.  Had Meghan's curiosity not been piqued by Brooks idiotic insistence of presenting his alternative treatment plan to the group at the gym, chances are Vicki would have only been left with Briana's objection to Brooks.   

The KillAllCancer was just another shortcut on life to try and win back audience sympathy and support.  Vicki should never attach herself to anything with the word cancer in it. It reminded me of Vicki claiming at season's end, with her one on one WWHL special, Donn would be joining she and her family for Thanksgiving in Florida.  Just manufactured crap:  http://www.realmrhousewife.com/2015/11/24/vicki-gunvalson-not-spending-thanksgiving-with-donn/  Vicki knew full well there was a portion of the audience that wanted she and Donn to reunite.  So she made up another story.

Vicki claims to be excellent in business and I just don't see how she and her fortune have not parted ways with as many times as she was duped. 

What I am finding difficult to stomach is this attitude of both Vicki and Kelly they have no regrets for what they have done because the others are so bad.  How do they expect this group to remain cohesive if there if all there is to offer is justification and yet another ploy for sympathy.   

[straightshooter]

22 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

I thought one of the more appalling things to come out of Kelly's mouth was her inability to acknowledge she was having an affair.  An affair is one or both of the parties involved are married.  Kelly had almost a sociopathic response to seeing a married man, it was on him and boo-hoo hoo, the wife was devastated about the family breaking up.  I guess we will hear more about the various restraining orders Kelly has been involved in next week.  There is something way off about this woman's moral compass.  Polarizing was is probably way down her list of issues.

I totally agree, this chick is one cold-hearted ice queen.  She has absolutely zero empathy for anyone, including those close to her.  Ironic, isn't it?!   She sure does expect the world to have boatloads of compassion for her every time she's "victimized".   "They were mean to me!  They ganged up on me!"  

I don't know if I'd call her a sociopath, though - they're usually highly intelligent.  She's an interesting one, that's for sure. 

Edited November 11, 2016 by straightshooter

[Bobcatkitten]

Here's a picture of the etched tree glass. Kinda cool

[VioletMarx]

On 11/8/2016 at 5:52 PM, HunterHunted said:

Thanks to Stassi from Vanderpump Rules, I've decided that every time Kelly blows up it's the same pattern of how Stassi described being so drunk you shit your pants. I wish I could remember exactly what she said. It was along the lines of "We were drinking and I had too much. I thought I had to let out a little fart, but halfway through I realized something was wrong. By then it was too late and just had to let it finish. It was gross and embarrassing." 

It's called sharting.

Hope this helps.

[HunterHunted]

I know about sharting. Thanks Al Roker. I just thought Stassi's story was a great analogy for how Kelly gets out of control in an argument. She intends one thing, but it gets out of hand and snowballs from there. In the end, there's shit everywhere and she can't really undo what happened.

[zoeysmom]

3 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

I know about sharting. Thanks Al Roker. I just thought Stassi's story was a great analogy for how Kelly gets out of control in an argument. She intends one thing, but it gets out of hand and snowballs from there. In the end, there's shit everywhere and she can't really undo what happened.

I will take this over to the Kelly thread. . . her history of histrionics and shart fighting.

[MrSmith]

23 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

I know about sharting. Thanks Al Roker. I just thought Stassi's story was a great analogy for how Kelly gets out of control in an argument. She intends one thing, but it gets out of hand and snowballs from there. In the end, there's shit everywhere and she can't really undo what happened.

I literally laughed out loud ... again ... at work. I may have to stop coming to this site during work hours. LOL

[VioletMarx]

45 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

I will take this over to the Kelly thread. . . her history of histrionics and shart fighting.

Omg shart fighting just made me laugh for the first time in 48 hours. Thank you.

Edited November 10, 2016 by VioletMarx

[Mu Shu]

Everybody sharts.  

[JAYJAY1979]

When Tamra has to dumb things down for someone, that should be a red flag lol

[Jextella]

I haven't even seen the episode yet but I just hearted each of the last 10 posts.

Looking forward to watching this and VPR with a bottle of wine this weekend.  Maybe 2 to get sharty started.

[straightshooter]

This season should be called "Shartnado".

[Former Nun]

13 hours ago, scribe95 said:

Here's a picture of the etched tree glass. Kinda cool

It's very pretty and the shadows/reflections in the room will be beautiful.

[Former Nun]

13 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Vicki claims to be excellent in business and I just don't see how she and her fortune have not parted ways with as many times as she was duped.

Who's to say they have not?  She probably spends more than she takes in...and her belongings are loaned, "gifted," or leased rather than owned/purchased.

[ElDosEquis]

On ‎11‎/‎9‎/‎2016 at 5:58 PM, Lizzing said:

They all owe Ice Cube an apology, not that they'd know it.  LOL!

Ice TEA, Read the sign......

[Giselle]

11 hours ago, ElDosEquis said:

Ice TEA, Read the sign......

LEMONADE!!!