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I think David is a good father and provider. In fact, one of the best on this whole show. He IS however, very cowardly, and it appears lets his mom, sister and now Shannon walk all over him. He wants to make everyone happy and in the process messed it all up. In the first season Shannon was on, didn't they show them sleeping in different beds? She tucks him in, and then does her own thing and goes to bed in her own room. (Now she is probably spending that time eating).. In any case, it doesn't seem like they ever had much of a sex life. My thinking is that if Shannon started having sex with David, even with her weight gain, he would be thrilled. He also doesn't seem like someone who is going to initiate, especially with Shannon, so it might be up to her. She has a lot of power, she just doesn't realize it. Right now, he's acting scared of her, and that isn't sexy. He needs to take some control over the situation instead of the silently standing in the corner like he usually does. He likes Shannon because she takes control and makes things happen-- he's sort of lame. Cute though.

I'm back to liking Vicki but I just can't stand Brianna. Her personality is blah, her life is boring, and all she is on the show is someone for VIcki to talk to and be Vicki. She's just a receiver for all that is Vicki. She showed up at the birthday party but we only saw her for 2 seconds-- she's only interesting when she's buffering Vicki.

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On 7/27/2017 at 4:12 PM, chenoa333 said:

For all you Tamra fans out there (3 maybe? Lol!) she and Eddie are doing a marriage vow renewal in Aruba on August 8th. It will probably be part of next seasons boring crap. But it gets them a trip to Aruba paid for by Bravo. Tamra states on her Instagram "it's going to be the largest vow renewal ceremony in the Caribbean ever". How large can a vow renewal be when it's ALWAYS just 2 people renewing? Unless Mormons/polygamists are doing this now also? But I get what fake Tamra is trying to say: lots of people will be there. Yeah Tamra,  there's always hundreds of people at Carlos & Charlie's

They won't be filming in August, so she wouldn't be doing it for the show. They might show some footage in flashbacks next season, but it won't be a big deal or financed by Bravo. If she were doing it to make it a big thing on the show, she would wait 3 months until they were filming. 

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4 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

They won't be filming in August, so she wouldn't be doing it for the show. They might show some footage in flashbacks next season, but it won't be a big deal or financed by Bravo. If she were doing it to make it a big thing on the show, she would wait 3 months until they were filming. 

Maybe Tamra cut a deal with Bravo to send a camera crew and pay for the trip for future use and/or a special.

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Alexa Curtin's rape case continues:

A federal jury this week held the Orange County Sheriff's Department (OCSD) accountable for enforcing a policy that blocked an internal affairs investigator from taking any action for seven months against a deputy twice accused of sexually assaulting a 20-year-old female suspect [Alexa], a period when a second woman says he raped her.

http://www.ocweekly.com/news/orange-county-sheriff-sandra-hutchens-lose-federal-case-over-her-poor-management-8311750

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20 hours ago, PhilMarlowe2 said:

That is so awful. Can you imagine learning that an accusation had already been made and yet you got assaulted because the Sheriff's Department was actively blocking the investigation. I hope she sues them for all they are worth.

It's the Curtins.....of course they'll sue. But it doesn't appear that all the facts are clear from both sides as yet. If anyone here has a current update with truthful documentation from both (all?) parties involved please post the links because I'm very interested in this. Thanks

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6 hours ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

 

Wow. I'm not sure if her attys take 30% or 40% plus there will most likely be costs associated with the case (admin, investigators etc). So just to make it easy: cut in half, Alexa pockets a bit more than $1.1 mil. Wouldn't it be nice if she used this for a fresh start to rent an apartment outside of OC and got herself an education?

O, who am I kidding? Based on the example her parents set, this money will be gone in 2 years. 

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How sad. I really feel for Sidney. Parents make HUGE sacrifices every day for their children. She can't even keep her daughter's name off TV and her pictures off of SM. Sidney ALLOWED Tamballs to come the graduation, and the slag couldn't honor the one request the kid had? She is using her daughter for a storyline and has no respect for her feelings. She makes me sick. 

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1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

How sad. I really feel for Sidney. Parents make HUGE sacrifices every day for their children. She can't even keep her daughter's name off TV and her pictures off of SM. Sidney ALLOWED Tamballs to come the graduation, and the slag couldn't honor the one request the kid had? She is using her daughter for a storyline and has no respect for her feelings. She makes me sick. 

Not to defend Tamra here but Sidney is just as guilty of using SM to beat her mom up as Tamra using it to sob about Sidney. Both Sidney and Simon posted that very same photo,  from her graduation, on SM before Tamra did and both their SM accounts are followed by the tabloids/bloggers like Tamra's accounts are. Also, no teenager should have the power to force a parent to stop working/earning a paycheck because they don't want to be embarrassed by the parent, which is what Sidney tried to do.

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How sad. I really feel for Sidney. Parents make HUGE sacrifices every day for their children. She can't even keep her daughter's name off TV and her pictures off of SM. Sidney ALLOWED Tamballs to come the graduation, and the slag couldn't honor the one request the kid had? She is using her daughter for a storyline and has no respect for her feelings. She makes me sick. 

Poor Sidney.

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5 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Not to defend Tamra here but Sidney is just as guilty of using SM to beat her mom up as Tamra using it to sob about Sidney. Both Sidney and Simon posted that very same photo,  from her graduation, on SM before Tamra did and both their SM accounts are followed by the tabloids/bloggers like Tamra's accounts are. Also, no teenager should have the power to force a parent to stop working/earning a paycheck because they don't want to be embarrassed by the parent, which is what Sidney tried to do.

I'm sure Sidney doesn't try to stop Simon from earning a paycheck. No one is saying Tamra can't work at all. But I think family members have a right to be upset about the exposure that comes with reality TV. Simon kept the kids off the show post-divorce for a reason. All Sidney wanted was for her mother to stop talking about her on the show/publicly. Tamra's actions prove, to me, that the show is more important to her than Sidney. She is bringing their drama front and center this season and that's the exact opposite of what she needed to do to reconcile with her daughter. So that shows me that keeping the "drama" fresh on RH is going to take precedent over the actual reconciliation. 

As for graduation, maybe it's hypocritical of Sidney to post pics of her own graduation and ask her mother not to - but the point is, Tamra agreed. And then went and posted them anyway. Again, she's USING her daughter to create a narrative about her life. And I find it gross. 

I don't follow any of them on SM, but from the little I have seen, I think Sidney's posts are mainly REACTIVE to Tamra's. 

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6 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Not to defend Tamra here but Sidney is just as guilty of using SM to beat her mom up as Tamra using it to sob about Sidney. Both Sidney and Simon posted that very same photo,  from her graduation, on SM before Tamra did and both their SM accounts are followed by the tabloids/bloggers like Tamra's accounts are. Also, no teenager should have the power to force a parent to stop working/earning a paycheck because they don't want to be embarrassed by the parent, which is what Sidney tried to do.

But isn't the point that Sidney specifically asked Tamra not to post it?  If Sidney and anyone she permitted to post the pic, did so, that's their business and their relationship to tabloids/bloggers.  Tamra needed to hold up her end of the agreement.   Or what ghoulina posted!

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2 hours ago, ghoulina said:

I'm sure Sidney doesn't try to stop Simon from earning a paycheck. No one is saying Tamra can't work at all. But I think family members have a right to be upset about the exposure that comes with reality TV. Simon kept the kids off the show post-divorce for a reason. All Sidney wanted was for her mother to stop talking about her on the show/publicly. Tamra's actions prove, to me, that the show is more important to her than Sidney. She is bringing their drama front and center this season and that's the exact opposite of what she needed to do to reconcile with her daughter. So that shows me that keeping the "drama" fresh on RH is going to take precedent over the actual reconciliation. 

As for graduation, maybe it's hypocritical of Sidney to post pics of her own graduation and ask her mother not to - but the point is, Tamra agreed. And then went and posted them anyway. Again, she's USING her daughter to create a narrative about her life. And I find it gross. 

I don't follow any of them on SM, but from the little I have seen, I think Sidney's posts are mainly REACTIVE to Tamra's. 

Tamra didn't talk about Sidney (on the show) until after Simon made sure the tabloids knew about Sidney refusing to see her mom, Simon also sent the tabloids copies of the kids/his old Bravo contracts during the custody fight as well (the man plays dirty IMO) . I agree that Tamra should have not said a word about Sidney and made not talking about her part of her contract but I also believe that Sidney was wrong trying to strong arm her mother. I really do not believe most of the things Sidney accuses her mom of doing, had they been true, the other 2 kids would have wanted nothing to do with her either but that isn't the case. Also Sidney tried to force Tamra to quit the show, not just stop talking about her, she has repeated several times that Tamra choose the show over her. And, I do believe that Simon used Sidney to punish Tamra for leaving/divorcing him! 

And , I see nothing wrong with Tamra posting that photo, especially since she did so after the others (Sidney AND Simon) already did it themselves. IMO, Tamra can't do anything right in Sidney's opinion, no matter what. I have no doubt that had Tamra stopped talking about Sidney on the show and on SM, Sidney would use that as proof that her mother doesn't care about her at all and she/Simon would broadcast that on her/his SM.

I get the feeling that Sidney is a lot like her mother, only their feelings are important! LOL Oh, and just for the record, I almost hate defending Tamra as much as I would defending Vicki........YUCK/PUKE! LOL

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Here's one about Sidney's feelings from Page Six.  I do get it.  I mean, when someone repeatedly ignores your feelings, you have the right to stand up for yourself and speak your truth.  If you don't, then they likely will be believed  and that might not be accurate.

 

http://pagesix.com/2017/08/08/tamra-judges-daughter-lashes-out/

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11 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

When they catch Tamra in the wrong light, she looks like one of the creatures from 30 Days of Night.  It's the overly blonde hair and harsh eye makeup.  She would look so much better with light make up and darker, shorter hair.  

IMO, some of the housewives, including Tamra, are caught up in an old look that worked for them years ago, but, they just can't let go of it.  Also, there is a phenomenon with ladies who have light blonde hair.  When it's light like that, you keep thinking that it should be lighter.  You can't see it as others do and you tend to go too light.  I have to stop myself and tell my stylist to keep me in check. lol  I've seen it happen with lots of friends before though.  The makeup application is dated too, imo.  To me, lighter makeup on an older lady is much more attractive than the dark look.  It just dates the appearance, imo.  Still, she's a lovely lady, no matter her age.  I don't care for her personality at all, but, I think she is physically very attractive. Here's a link with 14 different looks.  Apparently, she used to sport low lights.  

 

http://pagesix.com/2017/07/11/the-changing-face-of-tamra-judge/#1

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15 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Tamra didn't talk about Sidney (on the show) until after Simon made sure the tabloids knew about Sidney refusing to see her mom, Simon also sent the tabloids copies of the kids/his old Bravo contracts during the custody fight as well (the man plays dirty IMO) . I agree that Tamra should have not said a word about Sidney and made not talking about her part of her contract but I also believe that Sidney was wrong trying to strong arm her mother. I really do not believe most of the things Sidney accuses her mom of doing, had they been true, the other 2 kids would have wanted nothing to do with her either but that isn't the case. Also Sidney tried to force Tamra to quit the show, not just stop talking about her, she has repeated several times that Tamra choose the show over her. And, I do believe that Simon used Sidney to punish Tamra for leaving/divorcing him! 

Simon is certainly no angel. But, at the end of the day, if Tamra wants a relationship with her daughter, she would make it happen. And she's shown she is not willing to do that. 

Also, just because the younger kids haven't spoken out against Tamra, that doesn't mean what Sidney says is not true. For one, they might not have received the same treatment. It certainly wouldn't be the first case in history where one child in a family receives abusive treatment and the others don't. Or, it's quite possible, that the other two (being younger) have a bit of Stockholm syndrome going on - or are afraid to speak out. They may feel they have to go extra hard in pleasing their mom, in order to makeup for Sidney being out of the picture. There's a million ways this could play out, none of which mean Sidney is lying about her experiences. Just by watching Tamra over the years, I can totally believe Sidney's claims. 

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7 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

Simon is certainly no angel. But, at the end of the day, if Tamra wants a relationship with her daughter, she would make it happen. And she's shown she is not willing to do that. 

Also, just because the younger kids haven't spoken out against Tamra, that doesn't mean what Sidney says is not true. For one, they might not have received the same treatment. It certainly wouldn't be the first case in history where one child in a family receives abusive treatment and the others don't. Or, it's quite possible, that the other two (being younger) have a bit of Stockholm syndrome going on - or are afraid to speak out. They may feel they have to go extra hard in pleasing their mom, in order to makeup for Sidney being out of the picture. There's a million ways this could play out, none of which mean Sidney is lying about her experiences. Just by watching Tamra over the years, I can totally believe Sidney's claims. 

I agree with what you are saying but at the same time it is just as possible that this was/is a teen lashing out at her mother because her mother will not give in to her demands, I have seen it happen which is why I don't take Sidney's complaints all that seriously. I honestly get the feeling that there is enough blame to go around.

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On 8/9/2017 at 8:20 AM, SunnyBeBe said:

IMO, some of the housewives, including Tamra, are caught up in an old look that worked for them years ago, but, they just can't let go of it.  Also, there is a phenomenon with ladies who have light blonde hair.  When it's light like that, you keep thinking that it should be lighter.  You can't see it as others do and you tend to go too light.  I have to stop myself and tell my stylist to keep me in check. lol  I've seen it happen with lots of friends before though.  The makeup application is dated too, imo.  To me, lighter makeup on an older lady is much more attractive than the dark look.  It just dates the appearance, imo.  Still, she's a lovely lady, no matter her age.  I don't care for her personality at all, but, I think she is physically very attractive. Here's a link with 14 different looks.  Apparently, she used to sport low lights.  

 

http://pagesix.com/2017/07/11/the-changing-face-of-tamra-judge/#1

How true. I've had a devil of a time trying to make my colorist keep my hair a natural blond. It had become hombre with highlights on top and solid blond on the bottom. I'm older and knew that look aged me. Had to turn it into my natural color as I just couldn't deal with correcting her anymore or suffering with the results. Now it needs doing, I'm seeing grey, and am flummoxed as to what to do. It's better than looking inappropriate IMO. 

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Simon is certainly no angel. But, at the end of the day, if Tamra wants a relationship with her daughter, she would make it happen. And she's shown she is not willing to do that. 

Also, just because the younger kids haven't spoken out against Tamra, that doesn't mean what Sidney says is not true. For one, they might not have received the same treatment. It certainly wouldn't be the first case in history where one child in a family receives abusive treatment and the others don't. Or, it's quite possible, that the other two (being younger) have a bit of Stockholm syndrome going on - or are afraid to speak out. They may feel they have to go extra hard in pleasing their mom, in order to makeup for Sidney being out of the picture. There's a million ways this could play out, none of which mean Sidney is lying about her experiences. Just by watching Tamra over the years, I can totally believe Sidney's claims. 

This.

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11 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Hmmmmm, Now I know the source is ROL and they are questionable at best BUT! LOL http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/rhoc-peggy-sulahian-diko-sulahian-secret-divorce-exposed/

Yes I saw that this morning also.  It is strange! I mean, if they divorced in 1996, they clearly went on to stay together (whether in a "legal" way or not) and have kids, etc.  I'm interested to see how - or if - they will respond.

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On 8/9/2017 at 6:06 AM, WireWrap said:

I agree with what you are saying but at the same time it is just as possible that this was/is a teen lashing out at her mother because her mother will not give in to her demands, I have seen it happen which is why I don't take Sidney's complaints all that seriously. I honestly get the feeling that there is enough blame to go around.

Tamra not giving in to her child's demands? Tamra made an $8000.00 down payment on a home for her son Ryan and he's 30 plus years old. I'll bet that made Sydney feel good when all she wanted from mommy was to stop talking about their business on social media and RHOC. Just MY OPINION.

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3 hours ago, chenoa333 said:

Tamra not giving in to her child's demands? Tamra made an $8000.00 down payment on a home for her son Ryan and he's 30 plus years old. I'll bet that made Sydney feel good when all she wanted from mommy was to stop talking about their business on social media and RHOC. Just MY OPINION.

Well, it seems that Sidney didn't have any problem asking her mother to pay for her college tuition, which Tamra did (according to Tamra and not disputed by Sidney or Simon). So, Sidney doesn't want Tamra on the show but she will gladly take the money Tamra earns from being on it! LOL

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On 8/15/2017 at 9:15 PM, WireWrap said:

Hmmmmm, Now I know the source is ROL and they are questionable at best BUT! LOL http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/rhoc-peggy-sulahian-diko-sulahian-secret-divorce-exposed/

How is it Peggy and producers didn't think this would be uncovered?!?!  Something is up with this.  

Regardless, it tells us why Peggy is on the show.  She needs a job.

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I don't know where to post this so it is here that I've landed!

I always have to laugh whenever Brianna and Tamra talk about what a great guy Vicki's new boyfriend is (I know....don't end a sentence with a preposition! Lol) And even worse, I don't know how to post links when I'm using my cell phone. However, PLEASE if you have time, look up Steve Chavez on OCWeekly.com. Lots of articles about him and his shady shenanigans as a politician and then some. 

Where is Meghan P.I. when we need her?! Oh I forgot....she is with that too-damn-cute baby P.I.

P.S. OC Weekly is a very reliable cutting edge news source for the county of Orange California. You can also do a search on their website with Vicki's name and it will yield results. 

Another PT poster many months ago mentioned how Steve Chavez was Slim Shady's cousin (so to speak) but I believe most of us on this PT board forgot about Shady Chavez. Anyway...sorry I don't have a direct link and my lack of cell phone internet technology! 

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Went off to make a cocktail....returned with drink.
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22 hours ago, PhilMarlowe2 said:

He seems very creepy to me when he is on the show - he always has this wide, nervous smile on his face like he is hiding something.

Probably nervous someone will dig up that he moonlights as a man whore.  But shit, I'd rather be outed as a man whore than have people think I'd want to fill Vicki's crusty, rusty, dusty old love tank.  Dang old 5O shades of gross. 

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6 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Are you deducing this just because the article only refers to the departures of Meghan and Lydia? Or am I missing something more?

Personally, I hope Peggy has secured her spot but the clues are, well, very confusing. There's a rumor on Twitter that she announced her exit via IG Live last week but no written confirmation anywhere, which is weird if that story is true because why wouldn't she just pen a post? 

Her social media frequency ticked up considerably around the time pickup letters went out with kind of desperate outreach to Vicki ("haven't seen you in a while; we have to do dinner and catch up!") but she has kept Instagramming and Tweeting much more often than she did during the season broadcast ... almost like she's trying to shore up support/bolster her presence and engagement with fans. 

1 hour ago, lunastartron said:

Are you deducing this just because the article only refers to the departures of Meghan and Lydia? Or am I missing something more?

Personally, I hope Peggy has secured her spot but the clues are, well, very confusing. There's a rumor on Twitter that she announced her exit via IG Live last week but no written confirmation anywhere, which is weird if that story is true because why wouldn't she just pen a post? 

Her social media frequency ticked up considerably around the time pickup letters went out with kind of desperate outreach to Vicki ("haven't seen you in a while; we have to do dinner and catch up!") but she has kept Instagramming and Tweeting much more often than she did during the season broadcast ... almost like she's trying to shore up support/bolster her presence and engagement with fans. 

I checked her twitter and her IG account, she still lists herself as #100 real housewife and there was no post or video saying she was leaving the show. Oh, and nothing on her FB account either, so I do think she is back.

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