All Episodes Talk: Lorelai and Rory and the People They Love

[Katy M]

16 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Lorelai was stupid as hell to pay back the Gilmores just as Rory was starting Yale. She was so super sure Rory was going to get a scholarship. She should have waited to make sure that was going to happen before she did anything with that money. Stupid story line.

She didn't think she was going to get a scholarship.  She thought that she was going to get financial aid based on her income. Which she would have but for the extra money. Which she apparently didn't think was going to count as income.

[readster]

18 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Lorelai was stupid as hell to pay back the Gilmores just as Rory was starting Yale. She was so super sure Rory was going to get a scholarship. She should have waited to make sure that was going to happen before she did anything with that money. Stupid story line.

Not to mention, the money she got would should have gone for the Inn right away. Also the fact that Richard signing the check and handing it Lorelai magically told FAFSA and the IRS less than a month before graduation would say that Rory couldn't qualify for ANYTHING! Plus the fact that wouldn't be reported until NEXT YEAR'S taxes. Plus the fact the sell off happened at the beginning of the year, so you can't use "not reported" excuse either. It was so stupid.

[peacheslatour]

3 hours ago, readster said:

Not to mention, the money she got would should have gone for the Inn right away. Also the fact that Richard signing the check and handing it Lorelai magically told FAFSA and the IRS less than a month before graduation would say that Rory couldn't qualify for ANYTHING! Plus the fact that wouldn't be reported until NEXT YEAR'S taxes. Plus the fact the sell off happened at the beginning of the year, so you can't use "not reported" excuse either. It was so stupid.

Exactly.  When I got student loans, they looked a the previous year's tax returns. There was no way the lender knew anything about that money. She should have put it straight into the Inn and never said a word to Emily. For someone who claimed she'd spent her entire life keeping her mom out of her business, she sure blew that to hell.

[readster]

22 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Exactly.  When I got student loans, they looked a the previous year's tax returns. There was no way the lender knew anything about that money. She should have put it straight into the Inn and never said a word to Emily. For someone who claimed she'd spent her entire life keeping her mom out of her business, she sure blew that to hell.

Well, not to mention that Lorelai was like: "Magically I will NEVER EVER... EVER have to go back to my parents again. Thank you unknown buyer who just gave me $75K. Fuck you mom and dad and the past three years!" Sorry, if I got $75K right now, I wouldn't be just handing it to one person. I take out my ALL of my bills, put money to my son and keep the rest for any future businesses, house repairs or emergency money. But not Lorelai, it was: "Now, now, now, let's go out and eat and drop $50."

[marineg]

Not to mention the fact that even though 75k was a large sum of money, it wouldn't cover 3 years of Chilton, and much less have anything left over. We can guess Chilton was about $50,000 based on the first episode "Wow, that is a lot of zeros behind that five." I'm guessing it wasn't $5,000 or she wouldn't be shocked and need a loan.

[peacheslatour]

40 minutes ago, marineg said:

Not to mention the fact that even though 75k was a large sum of money, it wouldn't cover 3 years of Chilton, and much less have anything left over. We can guess Chilton was about $50,000 based on the first episode "Wow, that is a lot of zeros behind that five." I'm guessing it wasn't $5,000 or she wouldn't be shocked and need a loan.

It certainly wasn't going to cover four years at Yale. My dad went to Yale for a year before transferring to Penn State.

[Katy M]

1 hour ago, marineg said:

Not to mention the fact that even though 75k was a large sum of money, it wouldn't cover 3 years of Chilton, and much less have anything left over. We can guess Chilton was about $50,000 based on the first episode "Wow, that is a lot of zeros behind that five." I'm guessing it wasn't $5,000 or she wouldn't be shocked and need a loan.

$50K per year?  That was about double the cost of Harvard at the time.  Seems a bit pricey. I think it was $5K a year or more likely $5K a semester.  

[marineg]

9 minutes ago, Katy M said:

$50K per year?  That was about double the cost of Harvard at the time.  Seems a bit pricey. I think it was $5K a year or more likely $5K a semester.  

Right you are. However, as much as $50k seems too high for 2003 (although it is appropriate for 2020...) $5k seems too low.

Private schools have more or less the same tuition as private colleges. So maybe $25,000 and she met "Wow, that is a lot of zeros behind that five" behind that 2. 

[peacheslatour]

Just now, marineg said:

Right you are. However, as much as $50k seems too high for 2003 (although it is appropriate for 2020...) $5k seems too low.

Private schools have more or less the same tuition as private colleges. So maybe $25,000 and she met "Wow, that is a lot of zeros behind that five" behind that 2. 

My son was in private elementary school. Kindergarten alone was 6k a year and that was in the friggin eighties.

[Katy M]

8 minutes ago, marineg said:

Right you are. However, as much as $50k seems too high for 2003 (although it is appropriate for 2020...) $5k seems too low.

Private schools have more or less the same tuition as private colleges. So maybe $25,000 and she met "Wow, that is a lot of zeros behind that five" behind that 2. 

$5K a quarter?

[marineg]

10 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

My son was in private elementary school. Kindergarten alone was 6k a year and that was in the friggin eighties.

I was reading an article about Harvard tuition and in the 80s, it was about 10k, and it is now almost 50k (not including room and board). From what I read, private school was about the same price, with an increase from kindergarten to middle school to high school. So yeah 25k would make sense.

Basically, Richard gave 75k to Lorelai, Rory and she talked about all the things they would do with the money like buying a boat, "no more picking loose change up from the ground," "no more driving around looking for cheap gas" and the best of the best, "we've got the rest of Grandpa's money, that's plenty to buy the Dragonfly Inn." In what world would 75k be enough for 3 years of private school plus buying a frickin' inn in Connecticut and be "plenty"?

[peacheslatour]

17 minutes ago, marineg said:

I was reading an article about Harvard tuition and in the 80s, it was about 10k, and it is now almost 50k (not including room and board). From what I read, private school was about the same price, with an increase from kindergarten to middle school to high school. So yeah 25k would make sense.

Basically, Richard gave 75k to Lorelai, Rory and she talked about all the things they would do with the money like buying a boat, "no more picking loose change up from the ground," "no more driving around looking for cheap gas" and the best of the best, "we've got the rest of Grandpa's money, that's plenty to buy the Dragonfly Inn." In what world would 75k be enough for 3 years of private school plus buying a frickin' inn in Connecticut and be "plenty"?

Totally ridiculous.

[chessiegal]

When Lorelai says there's a lot of zeros behind that 5, it was for an enrollment fee, not tuition.

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LORELAI: I'm holding for Miss Bell. I've been trying to get a hold of her all day. [pause] Lorelai Gilmore. [pause] Hi! Oh, hi, hi. Yeah, uh, my daughter Rory has just been accepted - yay. [pause] Thank you, and, um, I got the invoice for your enrollment fee. Wow, that is a lot of zeros behind that five.

 

[Taryn74]

2 hours ago, chessiegal said:

When Lorelai says there's a lot of zeros behind that 5, it was for an enrollment fee, not tuition.

 

Yeah, I fanwank that the enrollment fee was $5,000 and Lorelai wasn't expecting to have to pay that right away or Rory would lose her spot. As many people as adore Rory in the town, pulling together $500 to send her to a swanky school wouldn't have been a problem.

It's still ridiculous that Lorelai had no real plans for how to pay for Chilton without going to her parents - the show really should have had her counting on getting a scholarship which didn't come through since Rory is, after all, A Gilmore(!) - but we do the best we can with what we were given.

 

3 hours ago, marineg said:

I was reading an article about Harvard tuition and in the 80s, it was about 10k, and it is now almost 50k (not including room and board).

Okay well now I'm just pissed off. My daughter's tuition (private college in Arkansas, certainly not an Ivy League) is $55k. That does include room and board and a full meal plan, though. Most of the students go on scholarships of some description, I doubt many of them pay the full price. We certainly couldn't, LOL.

[marineg]

59 minutes ago, Taryn74 said:

Yeah, I fanwank that the enrollment fee was $5,000 and Lorelai wasn't expecting to have to pay that right away or Rory would lose her spot.

You're right, that makes sense.

59 minutes ago, Taryn74 said:

Okay well now I'm just pissed off. My daughter's tuition (private college in Arkansas, certainly not an Ivy League) is $55k. That does include room and board and a full meal plan

Yeah the article was about 2019 tuition and it was about $47.5k tuition, and with room and board just shy of $70k. I went to a private college in Boston (2016) and it was about those prices. I don't think it gets much more expensive if it's Ivy League, I think it's more state vs private.

 

[Taryn74]

And thinking on it further.......the show could have had Lorelai expecting Rory to get a financial aid scholarship for Chilton, find out last minute she didn't qualify, swallow her pride and go to her parents, yada yada yada -- only to find out several months into the FND compromise that Headmaster Charleston had actually contacted Emily and Richard and they advised him not to give Rory a scholarship (knowing it would send Lorelai to them for help). Now THAT would have been the kind of meddling Lorelai always accused them of, and would justify both her not having any plan for paying for Chilton and also paying back the "loan" as soon as she was able to because it had truly been given on false pretenses. What incredible, organic drama that would have been!

But, no. Organic is out of the question on this show.

[andromeda331]

Either one of those would have made sense. Rory was starting school late so maybe the scholarship or financial money was already gone. Or they could have given Lorelai an emergency that came up before they got the letter that wiped out the money for it. Anyone of them would have made more sense then showing Lorelai being an idiot for not saving up money while trying to get her daughter into a private school and wanting her to go to Harvard. 

[junienmomo]

15 hours ago, Taryn74 said:

And thinking on it further.......the show could have had Lorelai expecting Rory to get a financial aid scholarship for Chilton, find out last minute she didn't qualify, swallow her pride and go to her parents, yada yada yada -- only to find out several months into the FND compromise that Headmaster Charleston had actually contacted Emily and Richard and they advised him not to give Rory a scholarship (knowing it would send Lorelai to them for help). Now THAT would have been the kind of meddling Lorelai always accused them of, and would justify both her not having any plan for paying for Chilton and also paying back the "loan" as soon as she was able to because it had truly been given on false pretenses. What incredible, organic drama that would have been!

But, no. Organic is out of the question on this show.

I would have loved seeing that game play out! Emily could have easily done that. 
 

Apropos non-university costs in the year 2000, we paid $10k+ for our daughter to go to an exclusive private school not in a high-rent district like Hartford, CT. I can see annual costs in the $20k range for Chilton.  That, of course, precludes Lorelai from using half the $75k for the Dragonfly if she paid her parents back completely.

[txhorns79]

2 hours ago, junienmomo said:

Apropos non-university costs in the year 2000, we paid $10k+ for our daughter to go to an exclusive private school not in a high-rent district like Hartford, CT. I can see annual costs in the $20k range for Chilton.  That, of course, precludes Lorelai from using half the $75k for the Dragonfly if she paid her parents back completely.

Perhaps you could fanwank that Lorelai had been paying them back something each year (perhaps several thousand dollars), so when she did the final lump sum, it wasn't the full amount Emily and Richard had paid for three years. 

[chitowngirl]

No Sookie-one of the things one remembers from a wedding shower is NOT what kind of cookie is served!! And all the food she made for the shower and then the wedding cake...who paid for that? The Inn?

And there is no way Chilton does not post activities or mentions them in the morning/afternoon announcements. Rory should have known the time the Newspaper was meeting and not been 45 minutes late.

Edited October 2, 2020 by chitowngirl

[Gam2]

I’m not sure which season this was from but the Gilmores are visiting Yale and Richard has arranged an interview for Rory with the Dean of Admissions. This whole season, Lauren Grahams’ hair has looked just awful! The back is long and stringy but the sides are barrel curled backwards. It looks bad enough from the front but from the back—AWFUL. Did they even have a hairdresser on this show?! Or a mirror?!

[sara416]

I rewatched "Keg! Max!" last night and one thing that has always bothered me was the housekey on the belt thing. Lorelei says that the only way she will lose it is if she is taking her belt off, but is she not going to go to the bathroom all night? She has to undo the belt for that, and therefore the key could easily fall off. Plus, she's wearing jeans. Just put the key in your pocket! There are also some very weird time issues in that episode that I don't understand, like Michel working at the inn at night and what time that booster meeting could possibly be. 

[junienmomo]

52 minutes ago, sara416 said:

I rewatched "Keg! Max!" last night and one thing that has always bothered me was the housekey on the belt thing. Lorelei says that the only way she will lose it is if she is taking her belt off, but is she not going to go to the bathroom all night? She has to undo the belt for that, and therefore the key could easily fall off. Plus, she's wearing jeans. Just put the key in your pocket! There are also some very weird time issues in that episode that I don't understand, like Michel working at the inn at night and what time that booster meeting could possibly be. 

It was a symbolic chastity belt. 

[Katy M]

1 hour ago, sara416 said:

I rewatched "Keg! Max!" last night and one thing that has always bothered me was the housekey on the belt thing. Lorelei says that the only way she will lose it is if she is taking her belt off, but is she not going to go to the bathroom all night? She has to undo the belt for that, and therefore the key could easily fall off.

If she threaded the ring through the belt buckle, it won't fall off even if she unbuckles the belt for whatever reason. She would actually have to lose the entire belt (or have the buckle fall off) to lose the key.  It could fall out of her pocket.

[sara416]

I didn't think about threading it through the belt buckle. My thought was that she put the stick part of the buckle through the hole in the key, so when she unbuckled it would pretty immediately fall out. 

[Gam2]

For the life of me, I can’t figure out why the wardrobe people dressed Lor in those low cut dresses for work at the Inn or going to the diner or walking around town. They’re not attractive on her and are much too revealing for work!

[chessiegal]

10 minutes ago, Gam2 said:

For the life of me, I can’t figure out why the wardrobe people dressed Lor in those low cut dresses for work at the Inn or going to the diner or walking around town. They’re not attractive on her and are much too revealing for work!

Is that you Richard Gilmore? 😉

[OhSarah69]

On 10/2/2020 at 3:06 PM, chitowngirl said:

No Sookie-one of the things one remembers from a wedding shower is NOT what kind of cookie is served!! And all the food she made for the shower and then the wedding cake...who paid for that? The Inn?

And there is no way Chilton does not post activities or mentions them in the morning/afternoon announcements. Rory should have known the time the Newspaper was meeting and not been 45 minutes late.

Yes, it's not like Rory not to check the start time of the meeting herself instead of just relying on what Paris (at the time her archenemy) told her.  But this brings me to the stupid, powerless teachers at that school.  Miss Whats-her-face in that newspaper meeting and then on other episodes there is a male teacher (the whom Paris calls "Bedwetter") - they just sit back and let Paris talk to her peers like that?  Yeah, yeah, they're trying to teach kids how to act in the real world, how to speak up for yourself, etc. - here's an idea, how about modeling that for the kids and not letting them poop all over each other?  

[readster]

7 hours ago, OhSarah69 said:

Yes, it's not like Rory not to check the start time of the meeting herself instead of just relying on what Paris (at the time her archenemy) told her.  But this brings me to the stupid, powerless teachers at that school.  Miss Whats-her-face in that newspaper meeting and then on other episodes there is a male teacher (the whom Paris calls "Bedwetter") - they just sit back and let Paris talk to her peers like that?  Yeah, yeah, they're trying to teach kids how to act in the real world, how to speak up for yourself, etc. - here's an idea, how about modeling that for the kids and not letting them poop all over each other?  

I have HATED how teachers are depicted on TV shows and movies. Honestly, outside maybe Boston Public. Teachers are constantly shown as: not able to communicate, closed minded, stupid and apparently just letting students run rampant in classes or activities. I can understand that maybe the writers were going for punchlines or had bad experiences with said above in their own pasts. However, AS A TEACHER I grit my teeth when I see that. You don't want to know my feelings on the teachers in the Spider-Man movies. Oh God!

[Katy M]

1 hour ago, readster said:

I have HATED how teachers are depicted on TV shows and movies. Honestly, outside maybe Boston Public. Teachers are constantly shown as: not able to communicate, closed minded, stupid and apparently just letting students run rampant in classes or activities. I can understand that maybe the writers were going for punchlines or had bad experiences with said above in their own pasts. However, AS A TEACHER I grit my teeth when I see that. You don't want to know my feelings on the teachers in the Spider-Man movies. Oh God!

What about Mr. Feeney on Boy Meets World?

[readster]

2 hours ago, Katy M said:

What about Mr. Feeney on Boy Meets World?

He was well done! The only episode I didn't like was when he talked about being a professional athlete. The lesson wasn't just how few people get to play professional sports. But when the dad was able to bring one in and talk to him about education and sports. That made Mr. Feeney's point mute and didn't really emphasis from a different POV. 

[scarynikki12]

Watched a couple episodes last night: the  season 3 inn fire and the season 4 one when Liz arrives.

Like everyone else I cringe when Sookie and Lorelai invade Luke’s. How hard would it have been to write it that Luke was in the know and on board with Phase 2? The scene could have opened with him delaying people/Kirk from ordering as he waits for them to arrive and then express relief when they do. That can easily be comedic and doesn’t make Sookie and Lorelai look like assholes.

I appreciate that season 4 laid the foundation for Lorelai’s money problems but I hate how Rory was written. Her noticing that Lorelai is doing little things that imply she’s saving money and being concerned about the inn, fine. But acting appalled by them? Nope not today. Who cares that Lorelai is clipping coupons or cancelled subscriptions? Rory’s attitude about coupons, cancellations, and other ways Lorelai was trying to save money just pisses me off. It does further move her further into the awful person she was by show’s end but still.  

[peacheslatour]

5 hours ago, scarynikki12 said:

Watched a couple episodes last night: the  season 3 inn fire and the season 4 one when Liz arrives.

Like everyone else I cringe when Sookie and Lorelai invade Luke’s. How hard would it have been to write it that Luke was in the know and on board with Phase 2? The scene could have opened with him delaying people/Kirk from ordering as he waits for them to arrive and then express relief when they do. That can easily be comedic and doesn’t make Sookie and Lorelai look like assholes.

I appreciate that season 4 laid the foundation for Lorelai’s money problems but I hate how Rory was written. Her noticing that Lorelai is doing little things that imply she’s saving money and being concerned about the inn, fine. But acting appalled by them? Nope not today. Who cares that Lorelai is clipping coupons or cancelled subscriptions? Rory’s attitude about coupons, cancellations, and other ways Lorelai was trying to save money just pisses me off. It does further move her further into the awful person she was by show’s end but still.  

I hated that they made Cesar throw away all that food. Damn Sookie was so high handed about it all.

[alexa]

On 2/23/2021 at 1:03 PM, scarynikki12 said:

Watched a couple episodes last night: the  season 3 inn fire and the season 4 one when Liz arrives.

Like everyone else I cringe when Sookie and Lorelai invade Luke’s. How hard would it have been to write it that Luke was in the know and on board with Phase 2? The scene could have opened with him delaying people/Kirk from ordering as he waits for them to arrive and then express relief when they do. That can easily be comedic and doesn’t make Sookie and Lorelai look like assholes.

I appreciate that season 4 laid the foundation for Lorelai’s money problems but I hate how Rory was written. Her noticing that Lorelai is doing little things that imply she’s saving money and being concerned about the inn, fine. But acting appalled by them? Nope not today. Who cares that Lorelai is clipping coupons or cancelled subscriptions? Rory’s attitude about coupons, cancellations, and other ways Lorelai was trying to save money just pisses me off. It does further move her further into the awful person she was by show’s end but still.  

I agree.  They acted like Rory was so stupid not to understand lack of money, saving money, or that her education, etc, cost money.  It was very annoying and silly.  They grew up relatively poor and had a simple life.... I think she knew all about this kind of stuff.

[andromeda331]

On 2/26/2021 at 10:39 AM, alexa said:

I agree.  They acted like Rory was so stupid not to understand lack of money, saving money, or that her education, etc, cost money.  It was very annoying and silly.  They grew up relatively poor and had a simple life.... I think she knew all about this kind of stuff.

They really did. There's no way they weren't using coupons the whole time Rory was growing up. Or Lane's family or pretty much everyone in Stars Hollow. Even the clothes Rory and Lorelai wore in season one weren't that expensive. They were mostly normal clothes. Even the clothes they wore to Friday Night Dinners was normal.  

[Katy M]

On 2/26/2021 at 12:39 PM, alexa said:

They grew up relatively poor and had a simple life....

People who "grew up relatively poor" did not generally eat out every  single meal or have all the cable channels or have an entire roomful of books (although I'll concede that most of them were probably used).  Or go to private school, but her grandparents paid for that, so that's a bit different. 

When I was a kid we had basic cable and ate out once, maybe twice a month. Usually McDonald's.  I can count on two hands the times I went to the movies and we didn't even rent all that often.  Again, maybe once or twice a month.

[alexa]

5 hours ago, Katy M said:

People who "grew up relatively poor" did not generally eat out every  single meal or have all the cable channels or have an entire roomful of books (although I'll concede that most of them were probably used).  Or go to private school, but her grandparents paid for that, so that's a bit different. 

When I was a kid we had basic cable and ate out once, maybe twice a month. Usually McDonald's.  I can count on two hands the times I went to the movies and we didn't even rent all that often.  Again, maybe once or twice a month.

I am talking more about the early days when she was a maid at the Inn, and they were establishing themselves.  I don't mean that they lived poorly when they did all of those things you describe, but I am pretty sure they were very poor when they first started out and lived in that little shed/storeroom outside the inn.  I just think Rory understands the not having money part...

[Katy M]

14 minutes ago, alexa said:

I am talking more about the early days when she was a maid at the Inn, and they were establishing themselves.  I don't mean that they lived poorly when they did all of those things you describe, but I am pretty sure they were very poor when they first started out and lived in that little shed/storeroom outside the inn.  I just think Rory understands the not having money part...

But they were living and eating for free at the inn, plus she was fairly young, so I don't think she would have thought anything about not having money.  the one time she worried about the roof or something and either suggested Lorelai go to R&E or went behind her back (I forgot which), Lorelai pointed out that she was self-sufficient and had provided all of Rory's wants and needs over the years.  there was nothing shown on screen to suggest that Rory had to think in terms of penny pinching as a kid.

[alexa]

41 minutes ago, Katy M said:

But they were living and eating for free at the inn, plus she was fairly young, so I don't think she would have thought anything about not having money.  the one time she worried about the roof or something and either suggested Lorelai go to R&E or went behind her back (I forgot which), Lorelai pointed out that she was self-sufficient and had provided all of Rory's wants and needs over the years.  there was nothing shown on screen to suggest that Rory had to think in terms of penny pinching as a kid.

I just see it differently.  I don’t see any of their life as extravagant, and my gut feeling is that Rory understood not having tons of extra cash sitting around.  But it is fine to see it differently than I do.  

[Taryn74]

Today on the 253rd episode of Random Gilmore Girls Thoughts Which Pop Into My Head, do you think if Lorelai and Rory were peers instead of mother/daughter, they would even be friends? Because I'm thinking no. I think Lorelai would be far more likely to hang out with Madeline and Louise than she would with Rory, if they were the same age and in school together.

I need to go back and watch some early season GG soon, I'm starting to forget that Lorelai wasn't always as shallow, immature, and somewhat unlikable as she ended up being as the show went on.

For that matter, neither was Rory. Maybe they would have been friends. Heh.

[Katy M]

2 hours ago, Taryn74 said:

Today on the 253rd episode of Random Gilmore Girls Thoughts Which Pop Into My Head, do you think if Lorelai and Rory were peers instead of mother/daughter, they would even be friends? Because I'm thinking no. I think Lorelai would be far more likely to hang out with Madeline and Louise than she would with Rory, if they were the same age and in school together.

I need to go back and watch some early season GG soon, I'm starting to forget that Lorelai wasn't always as shallow, immature, and somewhat unlikable as she ended up being as the show went on.

For that matter, neither was Rory. Maybe they would have been friends. Heh.

Adult Rory would not want to be friends with adult Lorelai because she would be beneather.  Adult Lorelai wouldn't want to be friends with Adult Rory because she would be too snobby.

Teen counterparts are harder. We don't really see that much of Lorelai as a teen. We know she got pregnant and thought her parents too strict.  So, she may have seen teen Rory as too much of a follower of the rules.  I think they would probably jsut be friendly acquaintances.  You really had to go out of your way to actually get on the bad side of teen Rory and I don't see teen Lorelai bothering to do that.

[peacheslatour]

7 minutes ago, Katy M said:

Adult Rory would not want to be friends with adult Lorelai because she would be beneather.  Adult Lorelai wouldn't want to be friends with Adult Rory because she would be too snobby.

Teen counterparts are harder. We don't really see that much of Lorelai as a teen. We know she got pregnant and thought her parents too strict.  So, she may have seen teen Rory as too much of a follower of the rules.  I think they would probably jsut be friendly acquaintances.  You really had to go out of your way to actually get on the bad side of teen Rory and I don't see teen Lorelai bothering to do that.

In many ways Lorelai was way more ambitious than Rory. She was more of a grab life by the fetlock and work your way to the top with clear goals. Rory was kind of a doormat.

[Taryn74]

1 hour ago, Katy M said:

I think they would probably just be friendly acquaintances.  You really had to go out of your way to actually get on the bad side of teen Rory and I don't see teen Lorelai bothering to do that.

Very true.

 

1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

In many ways Lorelai was way more ambitious than Rory. She was more of a grab life by the fetlock and work your way to the top with clear goals.

Definitely. It was bad during the series, especially after around S2/S3, but horrible during the Revival when Rory couldn't even be bothered with journalism she had been assigned to do. Jeebus.

[chitowngirl]

I love the story arc of Hammers & Veils/Red Light on a Wedding Night/The Road Trip to Harvard.

[Taryn74]

Really random question that's been bugging me for a while. From Double Date -

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SOOKIE: I know. I’m just - Oh, I’m so nervous.

LORELAI: You’re nervous? You don’t have some guy staring at you like he’s Cher and you’re the kid from ‘Mask’.

Now, I've never watched 'Mask' but I've seen enough scenes from it to know that Cher is the mom and she loves her son. Why would she be staring at her kid like she's horrified by him, the way that Rune kept staring at Lorelai? Does Cher start out horrified by him or something and only later comes to love him? Anyone seen the movie who can fill me in?

The things that bug me about this show, I swear. LOL

[Gam2]

This has been bugging me for years. Why do the Gilmores lean on their elbows when they’re at the dinner table? My parents were very strict about table manners and that was one of the biggest sins. My dad would say “If you’re so tired that you have to lean on the table, you’re excused to go to bed.” Also talking with food in your mouth, not wiping your mouth with your napkin (cloth, of course) and eating huge bites of food. 

[peacheslatour]

19 hours ago, Gam2 said:

This has been bugging me for years. Why do the Gilmores lean on their elbows when they’re at the dinner table? My parents were very strict about table manners and that was one of the biggest sins. My dad would say “If you’re so tired that you have to lean on the table, you’re excused to go to bed.” Also talking with food in your mouth, not wiping your mouth with your napkin (cloth, of course) and eating huge bites of food. 

Rory and Lorelai should each weigh about five hundred pounds.

[chediavolo]

Just started watching “3rd Rock From The Sun”.  Episode with Lauren as a college student, she had what appeared to be naturally curly hair & looked beautiful! Too bad she now fights against it. I never did like her hair, it looks dull & unhealthy. What do people have against curls? 

[Taryn74]

Couldn't help myself, watched the Pilot and TLFDAC again this morning. I always forget how funny and non-stilted Lane was even the very first time we see her. "I'm hayriding with a future proctologist. I have potential." Hee! Keiko plays her so perfectly, beginning to end.

[qtpye]

On 3/11/2021 at 1:42 PM, peacheslatour said:

In many ways Lorelai was way more ambitious than Rory. She was more of a grab life by the fetlock and work your way to the top with clear goals. Rory was kind of a doormat.

Yes, I can not ever see Rory fleeing a life of privilege to be a maid.